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MacRumors
Sep 17, 2011, 06:47 PM
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Engadget claims (http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/17/did-a-white-iphone-4s-just-pop-up-in-atandts-inventory-system/) that an "iPhone 4s White" has been spotted in AT&T's internal system.A helpful tipster sent us this tasty morsel, from AT&T's internal system, listing the "iPhone 4s White" beneath a handful of already familiar Apple handsets. Could it be? Is Cupertino actually planning on bringing a white version of its next iPhone out at launch? We're afraid only time will tell.Apple has been rumored to be introducing new iPhone models -- possibly called the iPhone 5 or iPhone 4S -- in the next few weeks. A number of carriers seem to have been listing "iPhone 5" placeholders early, but they may just be responding to circulating rumors.


Article Link: 'iPhone 4s White' in AT&T's System? (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/17/iphone-4s-white-in-atts-system/)



pewra
Sep 17, 2011, 06:55 PM
No size?
Probably just based on rumours.

tarproductions
Sep 17, 2011, 06:57 PM
No 3G S in ATT system?

ann713
Sep 17, 2011, 06:58 PM
AT&T is still selling the iPhone 3G? I thought only the 3GS was available.

pewra
Sep 17, 2011, 06:58 PM
No 3G S in ATT system?

That view is showing the second page, presumably the 3GS is on the first page, along with er- who knows what takes up the first page. 2G probably, assuming that selector allows you to select *any* Apple product a consumer might have.

rsshelas
Sep 17, 2011, 06:59 PM
Does Verizon get the Black 4s?

ChrisTX
Sep 17, 2011, 08:11 PM
An announcement seems to be getting closer, and closer! Not all that important but it would be interesting to hear why they pushed the launch to the fall instead of the normal june/july time frame.

macslayer118
Sep 17, 2011, 08:18 PM
I want an iPhone 5, not a 4s!!!

slrandall
Sep 17, 2011, 08:20 PM
Just a placeholder.

macinnv
Sep 17, 2011, 08:22 PM
Does Verizon get the Black 4s?

I heard they weren't getting that model.

BFW122083
Sep 17, 2011, 08:25 PM
AT&T is still selling the iPhone 3G? I thought only the 3GS was available.

That looks like an internal ticketing system for when customers call in and have problems. It probably has every iPhone since the first one released.

ChrisTX
Sep 17, 2011, 08:33 PM
I want an iPhone 5, not a 4s!!!

There will be both models. Apple never seems to disappoint!

gri
Sep 17, 2011, 08:45 PM
So, either ATT doesn't get an iPhone 5 (unlikely) or there won't be an iPhone 5 in the near future. Wouldn't mind, an iPhone 5 would be much more tempting then a 4s.

wordoflife
Sep 17, 2011, 09:26 PM
iPhone - iOS 1
iPhone 3G (second iPhone) - iOS 2
iPhone 3GS (third iPhone) - iOS 3
iPhone 4 (fourth iPhone) - iOS 4 - A4
iPhone ??? (fifth iPhone) - iOS 5 - A5(?)

For those photoshop people, how hard is it to photoshop that in?
It's a serious question.

Heck, I could probably do that by right clicking the page in chrome, pressing view element, and editing the page like that.

BFW122083
Sep 17, 2011, 09:28 PM
iPhone - iOS 1
iPhone 3G (second iPhone) - iOS 2
iPhone 3GS (third iPhone) - iOS 3
iPhone 4 (fourth iPhone) - iOS 4 - A4
iPhone ??? (fifth iPhone) - iOS 5 - A5(?)

For those photoshop people, how hard is it to photoshop that in?
It's a serious question.

Heck, I could probably do that by right clicking the page in chrome, pressing view element, and editing the page like that.

Not that hard, notice there isn't a size specification either.....

MacinDoc
Sep 17, 2011, 09:54 PM
There will be both models. Apple never seems to disappoint!
That depends on the audience. The majority of posters on MR seem disappointed whenever Apple introduces a new product, mostly due to the rampant speculation prior to release.

I have mixed feelings on this one. There just doesn't seem to be enough out there about the iPhone 5 this close to launch, so you have to wonder if it was planned but delayed.

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iPhone - iOS 1
iPhone 3G (second iPhone) - iOS 2
iPhone 3GS (third iPhone) - iOS 3
iPhone 4 (fourth iPhone) - iOS 4 - A4
iPhone ??? (fifth iPhone) - iOS 5 - A5(?)

For those photoshop people, how hard is it to photoshop that in?
It's a serious question.

Heck, I could probably do that by right clicking the page in chrome, pressing view element, and editing the page like that.
Even if it wasn't photoshopped, it would just be a guess anyway.

RafaelT
Sep 17, 2011, 10:06 PM
Anyone who draws any conclusions from this is clueless. It means nothing.

BFW122083
Sep 17, 2011, 10:16 PM
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RafaelT
Sep 17, 2011, 10:29 PM
The font is just a bit off but good job ;)

BFW122083
Sep 17, 2011, 10:32 PM
The font is just a bit off but good job ;)

lol thanks, I didn't have a "5" to copy :)

aardwolf
Sep 17, 2011, 10:48 PM
lol thanks, I didn't have a "5" to copy :)

Dang, they updated it again!

Widashy
Sep 17, 2011, 11:36 PM
Wherever I see, I just see "4s" whether be it components, leaked battery, leaked camera module, chassis..............When we are going to see actual parts from "5" or any major company listing "5" not "4s".
In case of iPhone 4s, we see some leaks, accidental listing and all but never a case or cover.
In case of iPhone 5, we see speculation, speculation and more cases and covers. Give us something to bite on, will ya.

sulpfiction
Sep 18, 2011, 12:32 AM
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Maybe there's a "cluoud only" 4S device that doesn't boast any significant internal storage. Hmmm...not totally out of the question.

Juan007
Sep 18, 2011, 01:09 AM
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Any phone Apple launches will certainly claim the title of best phone on the market. Currently that title belongs to iPhone 4.

If Apple wants to hold the release of iPhone 5 back to wait for better LTE radios then I understand. 4s will hold me over until next summer.

iEnvy
Sep 18, 2011, 01:17 AM
It would be pointless to have people wait for an iPhone refresh all this time to just have a 4S. There is going to be a 5.

jmpnop
Sep 18, 2011, 01:44 AM
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Maybe there's a "cluoud only" 4S device that doesn't boast any significant internal storage. Hmmm...not totally out of the question.

It doesn't even make sense, internet speed and bandwidth isn't sufficient atm. More importantly not everywhere you get stable internet connection, in those situations phone is a dumb brick.

TheAustrianGuy
Sep 18, 2011, 02:12 AM
...(iPhone 3Gs) to align the phone and iOS version. Why would they give that up again? Wouldn't make sense.

fifthworld
Sep 18, 2011, 02:33 AM
Apple, please call your next iPhone 5, not 4s or a lot of us will be disappointed.

Twizz91
Sep 18, 2011, 03:24 AM
An announcement seems to be getting closer, and closer! Not all that important but it would be interesting to hear why they pushed the launch to the fall instead of the normal june/july time frame.

The iphone 4s will replace the ipod touch. It will be an ipod touch with the option for a simcard with a data only contract, because this is how the future will be. And since it is the new ipod touch, they pushed it to the annual ipod event. Simple as that :)

0x000000
Sep 18, 2011, 05:09 AM
It's not even given that this is really from AT&T. Their colors are blue and sometimes orange, not red. Also their ticket/issue tracking systems (at least the parts that customers can see) look entirely different...

Anyone could've set this up within minutes.

Jibbajabba
Sep 18, 2011, 05:37 AM
Anyone could've set this up within minutes.

Doesn't take THAT long :p I prefered the fake Apple store mockup - that was brilliantly made :)

JDee
Sep 18, 2011, 06:13 AM
Note to all that there's 2 pages of results, not just one.

0x000000
Sep 18, 2011, 07:24 AM
Note to all that there's 2 pages of results, not just one.

Look closer. The buttons lead to page one. It even says "Displaying 11 - 16 of 16", so it's definitely the second page. There's nothing coming after that and the first page most likely only has the older models.

ceklit
Sep 18, 2011, 07:24 AM
so the cheap iphone rumors is possibly true

seamuskrat
Sep 18, 2011, 07:40 AM
Apple is a business.

Purely from a competetion and profit standpoint Apple needs to introduce 2 phones to remain compeetive with Android flavors.

Why?
The 3GS is ancient in tech years. I think its a great device still, but other than the budget conscious and developing natons it not going to sell a ton in America. Perhaps Apple keeps this as a free phone with contract to insure iOS at least has a free offering.

The iPhone 4. Great phone, and with iOS 5 will seem like new to everyone. That said, it is also in middle age tech wise.

Apple has never done well in a spec vs. spec comparison be it PC or phone. The iPhone 4 with iOS5, and the Apple ecosystem has a lot of life yet. In all honesty, probably greater than 50% of users will never tax their iPhone to the limits. With iCloud even capacity becomes less critical. ven the less than ideal 3G carrier speeds are 'good enough' for most. It is possible Apple pushes the costs down on this model and or retires the 3GS and makes this one free.

The iPhone 4S rumored about. Same form factor, fixed antenna issue, iOS5 optimized, and A5 chip. That would put it on oar with iPad 2. Tech spec wise its closes the gaps with Android models. Leaving Apple not at the top but in the running. sell at full price and get more converts, replacements and the bleeding edge must haves. Typical product life cycle stuff.

This holds Apple over for 3-6 months. Sales will be good but no spectacular here in the states. That said, China is a huge market and this phone could sell like mad over there.

That leaves Apple with 3 risks and a few deficiencies. Risk 1, no iPhone 5 when the world so anxiously wants one, especially so close to Steve's CEO retirement. Risk 2 the possibility of lagging behind Android flavor phones tech spec wise. Risk 3 the iPhone 4S having another antennagate issue (Personally I think it was a non issue and has been solved in the next generation anyhow). Consumer reports really rates the iPhone 4 well except for the antena issue. An iPhone 4S could solve that and get the iPhone back as a best buy choice for Consuemr Reports. This gets news and people buy based on those tid bits they here more than 1.2 GHz vs. 1.4 GHz.

As for deficiencies, Apple does not have LTE/4G. Steve has said they want a lower power LTE chipset. I believe this. No one wants to charge the ohione mid day. With my old 3G I had to do this often if I used it alot. With no user replaceable battery it would be a PR disaster.

AT&T has nearly no LTE support. Verizon only slightly more. A massive launch of iPhones would bring all American carriers to their knees in terms of this.

Last is the part Apple cannot control. Contracts and pricing from the telecoms. As these style phones become more ubiquitous and common bandwidth increases. iCloud will only worsen this. Next generation data will also be impacted. Companies liek sprint, AT&T and Verizon are in business agianst one another and to some extent us the public. They need to have pricing we want to pay but keep us from using too much of their limited resource. Smart Phones are one of the worst thigs to happen to telecoms as they use bandwidth and that takes more towers, more switches and more real estate. All of that takes cash. Data caps, premium surcharges, even primetime data charges liek minutes could come our way. Yes, we all want 4G in every little crevice we go, but that does come at a price and we as consumers must be careful we do not demand something we cannot afford to support.

Apple does not exactly want a phone where it starts at $145 a month for service. The profit and payback for the telecoms is not yet there. They will charge a premium for 4G/LTE and if they are forced to roll out more and ahead of schedule they need to charge back their customers.

I think Apple does have an iPhone 5 ready to go. But does not yet feel the launch window is sufficient.

They will get very healthy world wide sales of an iPhone 4S. If they bide their time 3 to 6 months, carrier support improves, and as Android phones push out more and more tech ladden phones, Apple can hld back the iPhone 5 to release at the best time with a nice supply and smooth launch.

Apple has always had a very solid strategy. Their execution in recent years is often even superior to their technology. Yes, they have stock constraints, but I am talking strategic execution of the plan. Wether planed or adapted, their release of the original iPhone, paving the way for the data conracts and usage, then each successive generation, integration iPod touch into app store and developing that property to form en ecosystem has been a huge success.

If iOS 5 works, and apps run well and there is no lag, then what percentage of consumers really care how much RAM or what CPU is in their phone? Very few. If Joe Consumer can pull up nearly any song in their library from the cloud then storage is not even as critical. Need a bigger screen- get an iPad 2. For most 3G is plenty fast for games, email and what they need.

A small percentage of users, mostly those of us who comes to sites liek MacRumors are bleeding edge. We know the specs, appreciate them and want utmost performance. But I promise the majority of iPhone users and buyers want an affordable phone that works and works well and has an affordable monthly rate. Apple will deliver that far betetr than Android can for the time being.

bLink-404
Sep 18, 2011, 08:21 AM
I'm certain it's fake for the following reasons:
- Where's the iPhone 3GS? It's obviously sorted in ascending order, so an iPhone 3GS entry should be above the iPhone 4 entries.
- Apple always stylised the iPhone 3GS with a capital S – if they were so meticulous enough to correctly stylise iPhone as Apple has, then why didn't they also correctly stylise the 4s part?
- Where's the iPhone 4S Black? It can't be on another page since the last page is already showing, and said page contains the first iPhone 4S entry. Surely Apple wouldn't only release a white iPhone?
- Why isn't the storage capacity listed (as others have duly pointed out)? I think an iCloud phone being released at this point in time is a bit far-fetched considering that data offerings are quite inadequate in most parts of the world.
- Finally, and most significantly, this contradicts the statements made earlier this week (http://j.mp/o0udGs) by two Apple employees regarding the next iPhone indeed being an iPhone 5, and featuring a "fairly different" design.

Dismissed as fake. Its source appears to be a bored AT&T support rep trying to mess with us. I'm actually quite disappointed in Engadget for not spending more than 3 minutes investigating the "tip".

cfedu
Sep 18, 2011, 08:37 AM
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+1

Negafox
Sep 18, 2011, 09:19 AM
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I want an iPhone 5, not a 4s!!!

There will be both models. Apple never seems to disappoint!

I'm disappointed right now that I am still holding onto my slow iPhone 3GS and playing the waiting game to see if we'll get a proper new model this year.

If we don't hear anything from Apple before mid-October, my wife and I will get the Epic Touch 4G phones instead.

The 3GS is horrifically slow and the iPhone 4 is obsolete compared to today's smart phones. I'd to see an A5-based iPhone to at least partially catch up to modern phones hardware-wise.

ChrisTX
Sep 18, 2011, 10:01 AM
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I'm disappointed right now that I am still holding onto my slow iPhone 3GS and playing the waiting game to see if we'll get a proper new model this year.

If we don't hear anything from Apple before mid-October, my wife and I will get the Epic Touch 4G phones instead.

The 3GS is horrifically slow and the iPhone 4 is obsolete compared to today's smart phones. I'd to see an A5-based iPhone to at least partially catch up to modern phones hardware-wise.
Agreed, for those that bought a 3G[S] when it was the current iPhone, this delay has got to be frustrating. My best advice is to hold off, because Apple has to have a new phone on the horizon, and I doubt Apple would be foolish enough to only release an upgraded 4 given the Android phones out there. There has to be an internal reason for this delay that only Apple knows about.

JDee
Sep 18, 2011, 11:45 AM
Look closer. The buttons lead to page one. It even says "Displaying 11 - 16 of 16", so it's definitely the second page. There's nothing coming after that and the first page most likely only has the older models.

Look even closer. If this is real, why is there no 3GS before the iPhone 4 models and only a 3G model?

"first page most likely only has the older models."

This is speculative - not a fact.

janderson0719
Sep 18, 2011, 01:17 PM
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Useless information. Those with a brain will know the 4 isn't going anywhere. Whether it's a 4 or 4S, who cares. iPhone 5 is what many consumers and critics are expecting.

jaws1974
Sep 18, 2011, 02:11 PM
I want an iPhone 5, not a 4s!!!

There won't be an Iphone5.

I guess I gonna make myself very popular. :D

zachlegomaniac
Sep 18, 2011, 03:43 PM
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I'm sorry, but I laughed so hard when I read, "this tasty morsel." It seems more like a tiny crumb next to my dog's food bowl. Honestly.

MacinDoc
Sep 18, 2011, 03:58 PM
Why would the "s" be in lower case? And where is the 3GS? Fake.

sclawis300
Sep 18, 2011, 04:07 PM
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An announcement seems to be getting closer, and closer! Not all that important but it would be interesting to hear why they pushed the launch to the fall instead of the normal june/july time frame.

The iphone 4s will replace the ipod touch. It will be an ipod touch with the option for a simcard with a data only contract, because this is how the future will be. And since it is the new ipod touch, they pushed it to the annual ipod event. Simple as that :)

That does not explain anything.

macinnv
Sep 18, 2011, 04:44 PM
Its probably legit..

janderson0719
Sep 18, 2011, 05:56 PM
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I want an iPhone 5, not a 4s!!!

There won't be an Iphone5.

I guess I gonna make myself very popular. :D

You must have an iPhone 4

theevoid
Sep 19, 2011, 02:20 AM
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I refuse to believe this is legit :)

ZipZap
Sep 19, 2011, 05:58 AM
I want an iPhone 5, not a 4s!!!

No you dont....you want the iphone 6 with 4G.

....and these are not the droids you are looking for.....:eek:

mattlol
Sep 19, 2011, 06:53 AM
lmao

mgartner0622
Sep 19, 2011, 08:14 AM
Is it just me, or is the iPhone 4s shifted to the left a few pixels when you zoom really far in? Maybe i'm just seeing things.
With this late of a launch, hopefully its an iPhone 5 we see "this fall"

winston1236
Sep 19, 2011, 11:18 PM
I hate to say it but a 4S = going to the samsung galaxy s II for me :(