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bushman4
Oct 2, 2011, 11:17 PM
If Apple don't come up with something good on tuesday Android is going to pick up alot of soldiers.



kramjam
Oct 2, 2011, 11:19 PM
If the next iPhone isn't a redesign, I'm going to buy a Jitterbug. Oh yeah.

eaglesteve
Oct 2, 2011, 11:20 PM
If Apple don't come up with something good on tuesday Android is going to pick up alot of soldiers.

I hope so, as long as I don't have to be one of the soldiers. Somebody has to suffer for the greater good of the iPhone community.

DrSMC
Oct 2, 2011, 11:30 PM
I was forced to used a BB @ work. Hate it!!

Used a samsung Galaxy S before I switched to 4, really don't like the plastic feel.

I will stay with my iP4 if only spec upgrade but doubt Apple will do it.

If apple doing this, it will give the public an image that Apple lost the soul after Steve has left. They will definitly have iPhone 5 introduced tomorrow.

msavwah
Oct 2, 2011, 11:38 PM
absolutely not. I have no desire to switch to android, windows 7, blackberry or anything else. I've been with apple since the original iphone and my next phone will also be an iphone.

+1
:)

jauhari
Oct 2, 2011, 11:44 PM
I was use Android and decide to move to an iPhone

On Andorid Device I still missing on many aspect such as the sync didn't perfect and the OS not solid as iOS... and the most interesting is iPhone is ready to use after we purchase it....

For me iPhone is a phone should it be :)

10-Dee-Q
Oct 3, 2011, 12:18 AM
am i the only one the iphone 4 design over the "new" leak iphone 5 design ?
i mean i phone 4 is really unique , no other phone have all glass constructions.
and to be able to use metal bumper is a plus compared to normal phone cases.
i really hope the same form factor+ A5,bigger RAM, bigger screen, better camera, and i'll surelly upgrade.

wcrov
Oct 3, 2011, 01:39 AM
So, you're agreeing that at least vast majority of the Android phones (non-google ones) are trash then?

I can't answer you because I've never tried other brands...
I had Nokia N's, iPhone 4, Nexus One and Nexus S in the last 4 years, if I'm correct..

Happy fashion!

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

malias4
Oct 3, 2011, 01:42 AM
may be i go fot the white galaxy s 2 or stay with my curent iphone4

The Game 161
Oct 3, 2011, 02:15 AM
if there was no IOS 5 then apple could of been in trouble with the 4s but to be honest with it? alot will buy it.

laxman101
Oct 3, 2011, 02:34 AM
Why would apple delay releasing the next gen iPhone if it is basically the same thing as the current version? I still think there will be two different phones...

wegotapp
Oct 3, 2011, 04:36 AM
For me its all about the screen size and fresh design.
I thnk this matters A LOT to people hence why this thread has now grown to 13000+ views!!!!!! :eek:

I don't care what its called but I want this new iPhone to be different than the 16 month old version we've got. Don't get me wrong, the iP4 design is excellent. But is also looking dated. The larger screen (even <half an inch) would make a huge difference and feel like a refreshed experience, while a new design would justify an upgrade. A camera boost + faster A5 chip alone would NOT justify an upgrade sorry Tim. Not when I will be able to put iOS5 on my current iP4.

I'm really hoping we'll see an all new bigger screen, slimmer iPhone aka iPad design. And even though we have no evidence yet, i'm hoping just like the original iPad that Apple have this new design under lock and key and will shock everyone tomorrow :D

...but if not, then no an iPhone 4s would not be my next phone. I would then be looking towards Samsung/Googles Nexus Prime next week :confused:

shortys408
Oct 3, 2011, 06:24 AM
I was thinking about getting an S2 but I don't think verizon offers it. I will probably buy the 4S and sell it and just keep my 4.

Tarzanman
Oct 3, 2011, 09:35 PM
I was thinking about getting an S2 but I don't think verizon offers it. I will probably buy the 4S and sell it and just keep my 4.

No one is sure (yet) why Verizon passed on what most sites called "The best smartphone ever" (Samsung Galaxy S 2).

Some people think that Verizon might have scored a timed exclusive with the Nexus Prime, and saw no reason to dilute their offering with a similarly-equipped Galaxy S 2.

Personally, I think that Verizon might have scored an exclusive with the 2nd revision of the Galaxy S 2. My guess is an upcoming 4.5" screen phone with higher resolution that does LTE with the Exynos processor (current Galaxy S 2 phones cannot do HSPA+ or LTE with the Exynos, the ones that do use the weaker dual-core Snapdragon).

Only time will tell. Nexus Prime was slated for release before 2012, but who knows whether that will happen.

Next year is going to be interesting. Google is rolling towards complete cloud integration with video chat/docs/email/google+/voice, etc

Microsoft is obviously trying to play catch up to Android, and Apple doesn't offer all of the 1st party services and features that Google and Microsoft can.

I think this is why Apple is going hard with their new campuses and facilities. I think they have realized that they have just about hit saturation point for their iDevices. Hardware market share won't grow much more with the fierce competition. Software and data is the upcoming new front.

Zeonmx
Oct 3, 2011, 09:51 PM
There is a rumor going around that Verizon skipped the Galaxy S2 to initially get the Prime, but after the announcement of Galaxy S2 HD LTE, Verizon will get that in future.

smotheredhope
Oct 3, 2011, 09:52 PM
Yeah IM seriously considering the galaxy s2

Zeonmx
Oct 3, 2011, 09:55 PM
I'm also in the same boat. If iphone 5 doesn't deliver, then I'm going to bail the boat to a different one.

brig2221
Oct 3, 2011, 10:09 PM
if a spec bump is all that apple can do in 18 months, then I believe they are simply too arrogant to sense the increasing competition from the android side. As a 3GS owner, I refuse to get another "S" phone.

I could not have said it better myself. I am getting sick of seeing all these Android phones with nice 4.3" screens.

I have kept my 3GS for over two years now, not going to settle for a "4S" when the Iphone 4 has already been on the market for as long as it has.

If they bump the screen up to 4", upgrade the processor, RAM, and camera, I will be happy and will gladly upgrade. If they through an iPhone 4 clone out there with a 3.5" screen with processor and camera upgrades only, I'm out.

Hoping I don't have to go with the Galaxy S II.

ChrisSD
Oct 3, 2011, 10:17 PM
Strongly considering it. Either an AT&T Galaxy S 2, or Nexus Prime (hoping it's not Verizon only).

F123D
Oct 3, 2011, 10:19 PM
I don't care about a redesign. If apple kept the same design but increased the screen size, I'd upgrade. However, if its just a spec bump only upgrade, I would consider getting a Nexus Prime or some other android device for a year.

dialed1
Oct 3, 2011, 10:20 PM
If android had any games I liked maybe

marksman
Oct 3, 2011, 10:37 PM
If iOS ran in a carboard box it would be better than a gold bar running android.

knownikko
Oct 3, 2011, 10:39 PM
It amazes me how many people are up in arms that they'll have to show up at Starbucks with a phone that looks just like their last one.

ITSS (It's The Software, Stupid)

zipster
Oct 3, 2011, 10:40 PM
I'm curious to try Android. A lot of phone that run the OS are super nice (at least spec-wise... haven't really held/played with one for a significant amount of time).

Love my i4, though. I really just want a bigger screen. Plus like others have said, I'm already super invested in the eco-system, it syncs perfectly with my Mac, and I like the jailbroken options I have.

Sean4123
Oct 4, 2011, 02:08 AM
Curious how many MR members are seriously considering an Android device if the next iPhone features no redesign and is strictly a spec update.

Nearly everyone I know that has owned an iPhone 3GS/4 and an Android phone, prefer the iPhone hands down.

It just works better and is more reliable. The hardware is nicer and the app selection is broader.

People will argue with me and act as though Apple isn't competing with the high end Android phones. Android and the manufacturers it has on board do stupid things that bother me, like the buttons for example. Why can't they come up with a universal format for the home, back, option and search keys?

Why does Android supposedly have phones with the fastest processors and nicest cameras, yet they tend to suck?

Why is Apples A5 processor totally destroying all the other dual core processors out there in benchmarks?

Feel free to get that buyer remorse out of you and convince me that Android is the end all be all of Phone operating systems and Apple copied everything from them.

i'll be here enjoying a phone that works and works well, all the time.

TM WAZZA
Oct 4, 2011, 02:12 AM
Feel free to get that buyer remorse out of you and convince me that Android is the end all be all of Phone operating systems and Apple copied everything from them.


Classic. Classic.

neworleans-7
Oct 4, 2011, 02:27 AM
It's pretty funny to see both sides of the coin. On one side there's people that seem like they don't care if the phone has all the same parts or the latest specs, but if it doesn't look different they won't buy it. And you have the others who want the spec bump and doesn't really mind the phone looking the same cosmetically.

While I certainly won't mind and will most definitely welcome a bigger screen I'd much rather spec bumps. But if I can get the best of both worlds (and I don't see why Apple wouldn't make the screen just a tad bigger), why not?

But we'll all find out soon enough.

Broph
Oct 4, 2011, 02:38 AM
8:36pm Tuesday here, announcement is 6:00am Wednesday morning... Thinking if I should go to bed early and try to go to sleep fast so 6am comes 'faster' ;)

Getting excited, feels like Christmas eve - pity there's no live stream though.

P.S. My requests are at least 4" screen & to get rid of the glass back... I drop my phone quite a bit, and don't want to risk smashing it!

TM WAZZA
Oct 4, 2011, 02:40 AM
8:36pm Tuesday here, announcement is 6:00am Wednesday morning... Thinking if I should go to bed early and try to go to sleep fast so 6am comes 'faster' ;)

Getting excited, feels like Christmas eve - pity there's no live stream though.

P.S. My requests are at least 4" screen & to get rid of the glass back... I drop my phone quite a bit, and don't want to risk smashing it!

Exactly dude ;)

Broph
Oct 4, 2011, 02:46 AM
Exactly dude ;)

Wazza, no doubt you jam the gaming TradeMe boards heaps? ;)

TM WAZZA
Oct 4, 2011, 02:48 AM
Wazza, no doubt you jam the gaming TradeMe boards heaps? ;)

You know it! Who are you man?

Broph
Oct 4, 2011, 02:50 AM
You know it! Who are you man?

Haha knew by the name ;) Hey bro, it's 'Rahto'... haven't been active in gaming much.

Amped for tomorrow though & samsung's (Nexus Prime) on 14th think it is.

TM WAZZA
Oct 4, 2011, 02:54 AM
Haha knew by the name ;) Hey bro, it's 'Rahto'... haven't been active in gaming much.

Amped for tomorrow though & samsung's (Nexus Prime) on 14th think it is.

Yay I'm famous! lol. Hey Rahto, I've seen you in the message boards before.

Same here. Will be interesting to see what the Nexus Prime has to offer too.

blairh
Oct 4, 2011, 02:15 PM
Curious to see if this thread will continue strong given what just was announced. I've updated my original post to reflect the changes.

wcrov
Oct 4, 2011, 05:32 PM
Curious to see if this thread will continue strong given what just was announced. I've updated my original post to reflect the changes.

I guess the iPhone fashion guys will continue to saying that Android suc*s bla bla bla...

Like I said before: You can't beat iThings' fashion...

Happy fashion guys!
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

LapsangSouchong
Oct 4, 2011, 05:35 PM
I guess the iPhone fashion guys will continue to saying that Android suc*s bla bla bla...

Like I said before: You can't beat iThings' fashion...

Happy fashion guys!
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using TapatalkNot to be rude, but you really like repeating the whole "iThings" bit. Regardless of what actual users tell you. It gets old.

Why not run along and play with your android phone or your windows phone or whatever phone suits YOUR preference. Why come here just to rile up trouble?

wcrov
Oct 5, 2011, 06:04 AM
Lets see how Apple will deal with this ISSUE http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110922PD207.html when customers starting ranting again...

I stated before in this thread: The iPhone5 was born dead!!! Samsung GSII is already the best Smartphone in everything...

That's maybe the reason why Mr. Jobs retired early: He couldn't see his (good) idea going down the hill...

Looks like Apple has aborted before born... I've predicted that in this thread on September 25th... :P

Have a good new fashion phone!!! LOL

vikingjunior
Oct 5, 2011, 06:34 AM
Once you go widgets you can never go back!

GaresTaylan
Oct 5, 2011, 08:59 AM
I'm really on the fence here. The company I work for has deployed me an Epic 4G Touch since we don't deploy iOS devices. Ive used several Android devices before dating back to the original Droid. The E4GT is the first Android device I have used that I actually don't mind.

However, I still have that feeling of being "lost" when using the phone. I've invested so much into iTunes via the 3GS, my iPhone 4 before I transferred the line to my wife, the iPad and eventually the iPad 2. When using the Android device I can get on it and check my email, check my RSS feeds, and then I just lock it and move on.

When I would use my 3GS or my iPhone 4, I would do those things and then hit other apps like Flipboard. I would check out what was new on Cydia and then want to theme and tweak. I would then move on to checking out games Ive invested so much time in like We Rule and We Farm.

This may not seem like much, and sure I can set a lot of this up on the Android phone, but I still miss the simplicity and style of my iPhone. I can't help but wonder what the Nexus Prime will be like... but then I have to ask myself if I want to not only commit to the carrier for 2 years... but iOS or Android for 2 years.

PhoneI
Oct 5, 2011, 09:04 AM
Once you go widgets you can never go back!

I had widgets. I went back. Found them useless and boring after 2 days.

----------

Looks like Apple has aborted before born... I've predicted that in this thread on September 25th... :P

Have a good new fashion phone!!! LOL

Why are you here at all? I don't understand. We get it, you love your Android phone. I'm sure its a great device. You do know this is not an Android forum though...right?

monaarts
Oct 5, 2011, 09:07 AM
I had 2 android phones before I switched to the iPhone 4 (my first iPhone) and I will never go back. I remember downloading too many apps in the android market that didn't work right with my phone and then having to go back and request a refund. With the iPhone, I know 99.999% of the apps work properly with my phone, regardless of which model I have.

Also, the devices look sexier. So what if the design didn't change? I didn't buy my iPhone 4 for other people to like the look of, I bought it because I thought it was a sexy phone. Everyone else happens to agree. HAHA



- Joe

onthecouchagain
Oct 5, 2011, 09:19 AM
Honestly, I'm not overreacting to the iPhone 4S announcement one way or another (this decision was probably made by Steve himself before he left; in fact, Steve's influence will probably be felt in Apple products for another 1-3 years).

But I'll be lying if I said I'm not really excited about what the Nexus Prime is going to be.

wcrov
Oct 5, 2011, 10:22 AM
Why are you here at all? I don't understand. We get it, you love your Android phone. I'm sure its a great device. You do know this is not an Android forum though...right?

Hey brother, I'm here because I'm a proud MacBook Pro user...

I really like good gadgets!!! :)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

err404
Oct 5, 2011, 12:30 PM
Hey brother, I'm here because I'm a proud MacBook Pro user...

I really like good gadgets!!! :)

Your comments don't reflect a love a gadgets, as much as a disdain of iPhone.

LapsangSouchong
Oct 5, 2011, 12:41 PM
Hey brother, I'm here because I'm a proud MacBook Pro user...

I really like good gadgets!!! :)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

I keep thinking "me thinks thou doth protest too much" when I read your trolling.

wcrov
Oct 5, 2011, 06:31 PM
Your comments don't reflect a love a gadgets, as much as a disdain of iPhone.

I keep thinking "me thinks thou doth protest too much" when I read your trolling.

Why you guys are so angry???
I keep motivating you guys to continue using fashioned smartphones and you guys return with revolting and angry??
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

LapsangSouchong
Oct 5, 2011, 06:32 PM
Why you guys are so angry???
I keep motivating you guys to continue using fashioned smartphones and you guys return with revolting and angry??
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
Not angry in the slightest. And done feeding it. cheers:)

boss.king
Oct 5, 2011, 06:36 PM
Happy fashion guys!
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Not to nitpick but would you mind putting your 'Happy fashion :) Nexus S' stuff in your sig? It's pretty annoying to have it in there every time someone quotes you.

JustLeft
Oct 5, 2011, 07:03 PM
I had 2 android phones before I switched to the iPhone 4 (my first iPhone) and I will never go back. I remember downloading too many apps in the android market that didn't work right with my phone and then having to go back and request a refund. With the iPhone, I know 99.999% of the apps work properly with my phone, regardless of which model I have.

Also, the devices look sexier. So what if the design didn't change? I didn't buy my iPhone 4 for other people to like the look of, I bought it because I thought it was a sexy phone. Everyone else happens to agree. HAHA



- Joe

At least you could request a refund. I have a number of iPhone apps that I would have loved to have gotten refunds on, but that isn't an option. Androids app store allows refunds within 15 minutes of purchase. I wish Apple offered something similar.

F123D
Oct 5, 2011, 07:23 PM
Now that we know the next phone is a 4S. I will not be upgrading and am waiting for the Nexus Prime announcement next week. Depending on what is announced will make me decide whether I'll go android.

JForestZ34
Oct 5, 2011, 08:17 PM
Yup, not upgrading.. Android here I come.. Now I just have to find a driod phone that I like as much as the iphone... LOL


James

wcrov
Oct 6, 2011, 04:02 AM
Not to nitpick but would you mind putting your 'Happy fashion :) Nexus S' stuff in your sig? It's pretty annoying to have it in there every time someone quotes you.

Sorry bud but I guess you iFashion guys don't know what is an Android app called Tapatalk... You should try it... Great stuff!

BTW, I don't have a signature! Tapatalk has MacRumors in its database and this "Sent by..." stuff is done by default...

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

marksman
Oct 6, 2011, 04:11 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_4 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8K2 Safari/6533.18.5)

Not to nitpick but would you mind putting your 'Happy fashion :) Nexus S' stuff in your sig? It's pretty annoying to have it in there every time someone quotes you.

It is also advertising in your posts which I suspect is against forum rules.

Sorry bud but I guess you iFashion guys don't know what is an Android app called Tapatalk... You should try it... Great stuff!

BTW, I don't have a signature! Tapatalk has MacRumors in its database and this "Sent by..." stuff is done by default...

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Well edit it not to do that or is that something else android sucks at?

wcrov
Oct 6, 2011, 04:19 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_4 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8K2 Safari/6533.18.5)



Well edit it not to do that or is that something else android sucks at?

You see now why I state that Android is freedom: It uses the best stuff of each OS can offer...
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

gazzrenn
Oct 6, 2011, 04:45 AM
UPDATE: NOW THAT THE NON-REDESIGN IS OFFICIAL, WILL YOU GO ANDROID???

No.

Appleind
Oct 6, 2011, 06:38 AM
Never

Doc750
Oct 6, 2011, 06:50 AM
I never thought I would switch to android. But this weekend I'm going to give them a serious look. I don't know if I'll switch, but I'm considering it.

The only problem is that the phone is so integrated with my laptop and iPad, that it would make it a bit inconvenient to switch.

onthecouchagain
Oct 6, 2011, 09:26 AM
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

BGR has the purported Nexus Prime specs.

* Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
* 9mm thin
* 4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
* TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
* 1GB of RAM
* 32GB of built-in storage
* 5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
* 1080p HD video capture support
* LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
* Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
* NFC
* 1,750 mAh battery

wcrov
Oct 6, 2011, 03:27 PM
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

BGR has the purported Nexus Prime specs.

* Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
* 9mm thin
* 4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
* TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
* 1GB of RAM
* 32GB of built-in storage
* 5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
* 1080p HD video capture support
* LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
* Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
* NFC
* 1,750 mAh battery

Damm, I want that phone!!!

I thought that Google will use Motorola hardware since belongs to them now...
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

JForestZ34
Oct 6, 2011, 03:34 PM
Damm, I want that phone!!!

I thought that Google will use Motorola hardware since belongs to them now...
:)

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk


X2

This sounds like an awesome phone.. I will have to try it out to make my decision though...


James

Martyimac
Oct 6, 2011, 03:44 PM
Staying with the iPhone.

miggitymac
Oct 6, 2011, 03:51 PM
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

BGR has the purported Nexus Prime specs.

* Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
* 9mm thin
* 4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
* TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
* 1GB of RAM
* 32GB of built-in storage
* 5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
* 1080p HD video capture support
* LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
* Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
* NFC
* 1,750 mAh battery

Those are bogus specs apparently.

http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php

Summary: 1.5 GHz dual core CPU, same GPU as iPad 2 (and likely the iPhone 4S), 8 MP camera that can shoot 1080p HD video, 2050 mAh of battery.

Baggy Spandex
Oct 6, 2011, 03:51 PM
Since no other phone runs iOS, no, I will not be switching. iOS is the only reason I bought my iPhone, and the only reason I will continue to use it. NFC, big screens, HDMI output, etc...are all trivial to me. I would use them sparingly and not enough to justify giving up iOS.

Plus, I still haven't come across one Android device that gets scrolling right. It's terrible.

Peterg2
Oct 6, 2011, 04:09 PM
Damm, I want that phone!!!

<snip>


Two things give me pause:

1) Will it be have at least a metal chassis as rumoured or will it feel like so many Samsung higher-end phones - cheapish with so much plastic? If it is plastic, I am not interested as no way will I be able to get this at anything approaching the cost what I believe I will be able to get the iPhone 4S through Rogers (not that I am upgrading my 4).

2) I really love Apple's Genius stores and the really fast and hassle free way I can get a faulty phone replaced with either a perfectly looking refurb or occasionally a new one when the refurbs have run out that day (I have Applecare for the extra year on my current 4).

For the rest, the specs are great (but specs are not everything) and I do have great hopes for Ice Cream Sandwich. I am jailbroken but being jailbroken does not approach nearly enough what I would like in terms of operability that can be obtained say with Gingerbread or Honeycomb.

Baggy Spandex
Oct 6, 2011, 04:26 PM
Also, to add to my previous post, my personal experience with Apple's customer service is second to none. If I had any problems with my Apple products, they took care of me without question.

If I have a problem with an Android device, it leaves me with going to my local carrier store to have it taken care of. This was my main reason for switching from Verizon to AT&T years ago. Their customer service was abysmal with the devices they offered.

wcrov
Oct 6, 2011, 07:28 PM
Those are bogus specs apparently.

http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php

Summary: 1.5 GHz dual core CPU, same GPU as iPad 2 (and likely the iPhone 4S), 8 MP camera that can shoot 1080p HD video, 2050 mAh of battery.

My only concern about the Prime would be the price, as iPhone 4S(4Steve) won't have any substantial change...
So, I'll take that iPhone 4S will come with a very attractive price and the Nexus Prime with a very expensive deal...

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Globetrotter
Oct 6, 2011, 07:31 PM
Since no other phone runs iOS, no, I will not be switching. iOS is the only reason I bought my iPhone, and the only reason I will continue to use it. NFC, big screens, HDMI output, etc...are all trivial to me. I would use them sparingly and not enough to justify giving up iOS.

Plus, I still haven't come across one Android device that gets scrolling right. It's terrible.

That part I bolded - I was playing around with a friend's HTC the other day, and this really struck me - the scrolling, especially for browsing, is shockingly ****.

Android is still stuck being a linux for phones.

It works, it's functional and everybody can just about understand it, but why would you put yourself through it if you didn't have to

Sense UI just about makes it nice to use

NovemberWhiskey
Oct 6, 2011, 10:41 PM
Since no other phone runs iOS, no, I will not be switching. iOS is the only reason I bought my iPhone, and the only reason I will continue to use it. NFC, big screens, HDMI output, etc...are all trivial to me. I would use them sparingly and not enough to justify giving up iOS.

Plus, I still haven't come across one Android device that gets scrolling right. It's terrible.

That part I bolded - I was playing around with a friend's HTC the other day, and this really struck me - the scrolling, especially for browsing, is shockingly ****.

Android is still stuck being a linux for phones.

It works, it's functional and everybody can just about understand it, but why would you put yourself through it if you didn't have to

Sense UI just about makes it nice to use

I would agree with that statement 100% a year ago, but these days, many android devices do scrolling perfectly fine.

Sometimes it takes flashing a ROM or doing a mod, but they are capable of perfectly fluid scrolling.

You just have to find the right phone/software. I recommend HTC or Samsung. Moto sucks.

by next year things should be even better, and the animations and little niceties are getting really fancy.

Also, due to bloatware and all the things loaded on in-store models, i wouldn't rely on those as accurate in terms of everyday use or potential.

wcrov
Oct 8, 2011, 09:01 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/23r2mt.jpg

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Wicked1
Oct 8, 2011, 09:06 PM
Nope Apple all the way, every year I get the new one on a discounted new 2 Year, but for some reason this year after ordering the 4S AT&T put me on a 18 month renewal cycle, so I get it 10-2011 and eligible to upgrade again on 05-2013 but depends on if we are still here after 12-21-2012 :eek:

nfl46
Oct 8, 2011, 09:08 PM
I was going with Android, but decided not to. I love Apple and the iPhone way too much. The iPhone is the best out there, IMO.

ripper998
Oct 8, 2011, 10:19 PM
Image (http://i53.tinypic.com/23r2mt.jpg)

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dude why are you even here. Its obvious you dont like the iphone, we get it.

iPodOwner1
Oct 8, 2011, 10:24 PM
Switching to the HTC Inspire from my 4. Wish me luck.

JohnnyQuest
Oct 8, 2011, 10:26 PM
I don't ever foresee myself switching to Android just because the new iPhone isn't what I expected. Either I'll buy it, and enjoy it for what it is, or just won't upgrade.

I'm a "Mac." MBP, iPad, iPhone, AppleTV; and an Android phone just wouldn't fit into my lifestyle, nor do I have the urge to try and make it work.

boss.king
Oct 8, 2011, 10:33 PM
Sorry bud but I guess you iFashion guys don't know what is an Android app called Tapatalk... You should try it... Great stuff!

BTW, I don't have a signature! Tapatalk has MacRumors in its database and this "Sent by..." stuff is done by default...

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

I'm completely aware of what it is, that doesn't make it less annoying. That's why I asked you to put it into your signature.

JohnnyQuest
Oct 8, 2011, 10:36 PM
from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Damn, that must get annoying. But you're right, Android is far superior. :rolleyes:

ZBoater
Oct 8, 2011, 11:05 PM
Damn, that must get annoying. But you're right, Android is far superior. :rolleyes:

Well, at least you can change those settings. Apple's habit of deciding stuff for you (Newstand anyone?) is even more annoying...

NoHo
Oct 9, 2011, 12:06 AM
Let's take a look back at all the people who said if there wasn't a complete redesign so people could tell it was a new device and enhance their coolness, that they were going to get an Android phone, and let's see their recent posts where they talk about pre-ordering the iPhone 4S.


I asked myself the same question only yesterday. I've purchased all of the iPhones and have enjoyed them immensely. I think I'll be moving to Android if the next iPhone doesn't impress me. Part of the problem is AT&T and its crappy service.

So you're going to not only go to Android if there's only an iPhone 4S, but you're going to cancel AT&T too?


Stuck at stupid existing customer screen!!!!
Edit: Progress! Now stuck at check upgrade eligibility screen :)

Existing customer screen? Upgrade eligibility screen? You not only didn't go to Android, but you didn't cancel AT&T, either, and are actually reupping with them for another 2 years?

ill prolly pick up an android device

i love apple but i have an ipad already and the iphone design is getting boring to me

So if the iPhone was the same design and wasn't a brand new design, you were going to go to Android?

ordered through apple and kept my unlimited

Hey, Apple doesn't sale Android devices! You ordered the new iPhone!

I'll never purchase a phone made of fragile glass. I have no desire to sink hundreds of dollars into repair costs because the thing shatters whenever it hits the ground.

If the iP5 is just a redesign, I'll sit this cycle out and wait another year on my 3GS until they offer a solidly constructed design to buy.

If it's glass and not redesigned you will sit it out? Okay. I'm going to hold you up to it!

I ordered the 32 -- but I'm starting to regret not future-proofing myself with the 64. $399 just seemed like an awful lot of money to lay out for a phone.

I might try to swap out for a 64 on launch day. Haven't decided yet.

So you DID get the new iPhone? I went with the 64gb. No buyers remorse here!

imac9556
Oct 9, 2011, 12:13 AM
ill admit... apple has got me by the balls. the ease of syncing my media and personal info (calendar, address book, etc) with my Mac is what holding me with the iOS platform. :apple:
I've tried WP 7 and Android, syncing was possible, but just more work. especially with the Mac.

I preordered the iPhone 4s even after owning the iPhone 4.

SFStateStudent
Oct 9, 2011, 12:17 AM
What's an android; R2D2??? lol :p:p:p

lilo777
Oct 9, 2011, 12:17 AM
ill admit... apple has got me by the balls. the ease of syncing my media and personal info (calendar, address book, etc) with my Mac is what holding me with the iOS platform. :apple:
I've tried WP 7 and Android, syncing was possible, but just more work. especially with the Mac.

I preordered the iPhone 4s even after owning the iPhone 4.

That's the problem with Macs. They do not play well with the res of the World. Very limited choices. Very expensive. With no benefits.

monaarts
Oct 9, 2011, 12:18 AM
ill admit... apple has got me by the balls. the ease of syncing my media and personal info (calendar, address book, etc) with my Mac is what holding me with the iOS platform. :apple:
I've tried WP 7 and Android, syncing was possible, but just more work. especially with the Mac.

I preordered the iPhone 4s even after owning the iPhone 4.

Same here.. better yet, my wife and I both have iPhones and we use the same iTunes account to download apps and music, so we have a million apps we'd lose by switching... No worries though, I would have still gotten the iPhone 4S even if this wasn't the case. People think Android is better because they have more phone options but that is one of the main reasons I DON'T get an Android device. When I did have an Android device there were always problems with apps not working on my phone right because it wasn't optimized for my phone, ANNOYING!


- Joe

wcrov
Oct 9, 2011, 04:11 AM
dude why are you even here. Its obvious you dont like the iphone, we get it.

Dude, again (looks like you haven't read previous posts).
I'm a proud MacBook Pro i7 user and I DO like the best gadgets out there...


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malias4
Oct 9, 2011, 04:16 AM
i dont think so. top smartdroids got strong hardware but android os can be laggy and the market is really not even half good comparing to applestore

wcrov
Oct 9, 2011, 04:51 AM
Switching to the HTC Inspire from my 4. Wish me luck.

Wait a little bit more and get the Prime...
Google decided postponed Prime smartphone (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394290,00.asp#fbid=sk3N3dnKAJg) out of respect for Steve Jobs.

richard.torble
Oct 9, 2011, 05:02 AM
I would never ever go to Android, it's a complete mess. The hardware is only a small part of the purchasing decision, it's the OS that you interact with directly and nothing compares to the ease of use and the beauty of iOS. I don't want to spend half my life making something work and the other half actually being productive. I expect my money is being spent on something that works right away. I just don't get the mentality of those who say "oh yeah, Android is the best, you just root it and change this and......" WTF. Who on earth wants to do that?! I have a work colleague who is Windows all the way, will never buy a Mac, but he has an iPhone4 and an iPad2. Why? Because it works.

I have an iPhone4 (and a first gen iPhone before that), my GF has an HTC. She hates it. She's encouraging me to upgrade to a 4S so she can have my 4, which I am considering.

I respect the freedom of others to make their own decisions on what they believe works for them, I just don't understand it.

AlvinNguyen
Oct 9, 2011, 05:06 AM
That's the problem with Macs. They do not play well with the res of the World. Very limited choices. Very expensive. With no benefits.

Really? It's call integration and my perfect world is one where everyone uses Mac. Seeing as how I work in the fashion / imaging / creative industry that's pretty much everyone.

And if you haven't noticed Mac is taking over the world anyways so maybe the world should play nice with Mac ;)

mickbab
Oct 9, 2011, 05:10 AM
I wouldn't make the move. The iOS / OSX ecosystem works for me and is what I have become accustomed to. If by "next iPhone" you mean the new 4S, I'll skip this one and get to the end of my 2 year contract. As for the iPhone after that (the iPhone 6 or whatever it gets called) I'll look at whether the features are something I want/need and decide whether to make the upgrade, and if it's not worth it then I'll just stick with the 4 and be happy with that because it does everything I need it to do.

ste1164
Oct 9, 2011, 05:50 AM
I sold my iPhone 4 a while ago and got an android handset. I regret it if I'm honest. The whole os isn't as smooth and I liked the apple ecosystem of syncing with iTunes it was so much simpler :P

ap3604
Oct 9, 2011, 05:55 AM
Might go with the Galaxy S II if Amazon drops the price down (currently at $150 tax free)...

Both operating systems I am comfortable with and both are fast smooth phones with no lag.

wcrov
Oct 9, 2011, 08:13 AM
i dont think so. top smartdroids got strong hardware but android os can be laggy and the market is really not even half good comparing to applestore

The moderators removed my last reply to you due to "trolling" rules.
I apologize if sound like that, but I was just laughing about your post above because I thought you posted a joke...
Again, I apologize for not understanding that you were serious in your post.
Have a good one!

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

JustLeft
Oct 9, 2011, 08:13 AM
Might go with the Galaxy S II if Amazon drops the price down (currently at $150 tax free)...

Both operating systems I am comfortable with and both are fast smooth phones with no lag.

A rational statement of both platforms! I use both android (droid x) and the iPhone 4. I really like both platforms. I have no stability issues with android. I use caldav to sync my mac calendar to google. Works seamlessly. When I get bored with one platform, I switch to the other.

The bigger screen on the dx is a plus for me. I use evernote extensively. Pull up the evernote app on an iPhone and then pull it up on a larger screen android phone - the iPhone shows about half the text because the fonts are too big and there is no way to change them. With the pixel density on the ip4 you should be able to shrink the print to get more on the screen.

So, I'm with you. I can use either platform without issue. Each has it's own benefits and each has it's own shortfalls.

Irock619
Oct 9, 2011, 08:51 AM
We know that eventually a new design for iPhone will have to come out. The iPhone can easily last at least 3 to 4 years as long as you keep good care of your phone. I have an 3GS that I have had for 2 years and the phone still works flawlessly. I am upgrading because the 4S is a major change compared to the 3GS. I say just keep your I4 or I4S until an new design comes out. These phones last a long time as long as you treat them well.

Picka
Oct 9, 2011, 09:02 AM
Already made the switch. Loving the SG2.

Widgets and a simple file system are great. The screen is, imo, superior aswell, it really stands out.

Savor
Oct 9, 2011, 09:07 AM
I finally got a Nexus One, so you can say I am part of BOTH platforms. Every bad assumption I had with Android of being laggy or lacking the essential apps is now gone. My N1 is smoother than my first gen iPhone. I don't need to choose sides here, so why not try them all? Only spent a $100 for it second-hand and it works great. The guy who sold it to me said it was his fav phone of all-time, but his company had to switch to a CDMA carrier. No issues with the power button or touch sensitive-buttons on the bottom. I bought it far below its current market value, that if I do get bored with it, I can always sell it back months later and get my money back. Like a free trial with FULL cash refund that can last months if not years. The original BlackBerry Bold is even older and that still sells for over $100 used.

Yeah, I know the Nexus One is nearly two year old phone but it is lag-free. I think once Android went Froyo and Gingerbread, they eliminated ALOT of the lag. Not on all Android phones, per se. My N1 is on 2.3.6 Gingerbead, unlocked, and rooted. And it feels far superior in quality than the Nexus S. Like comparing the original iPhone vs iPhone 3G. I wanted the Samsung Note, but since it might NOT come to the U.S. and Sammy is known to make powerful phones with cheap build quality, I may switch only to HTC or when Motorola starts bringing out their own Nexus phones. For now, I can get a taste of Ice Cream Sandwich for dirt cheap and don't have to worry that it only supports the Nexus Prime.

Apple has only ever made about 3 great iPhones based on hardware out of the five generations. The first one and the 4's. The original now has the most unique look after the 4S has cheapened the look of the 4 because they are twins now similar to the iPhone 3's. The 3's success came mostly from the greatness of iOS, so Apple was allowed for incremental updates at the time relative to the competition. From a hardware standpoint, adding 3G, compass, or video camera was no big deal. The original iPhone was the most durable and greatest iPhone of them all just because it was the first and most groundbreaking at the time. It also had the greatest keynote ever.

Thumbs up to BOTH iOS and Android. Both are solid choices with most of the essential apps you need.

wcrov
Oct 9, 2011, 09:36 AM
I finally got a Nexus One, so you can say I am part of BOTH platforms. Every bad assumption I had with Android of being laggy or lacking the essential apps is now gone. My N1 is smoother than my first gen iPhone. I don't need to choose sides here, so why not try them all? Only spent a $100 for it second-hand and it works great. The guy who sold it to me said it was his fav phone of all-time, but his company had to switch to a CDMA carrier. No issues with the power button or touch sensitive-buttons on the bottom. I bought it far below its current market value, that if I do get bored with it, I can always sell it back months later and get my money back. Like a free trial with FULL cash refund that can last months if not years. The original BlackBerry Bold is even older and that still sells for over $100 used.

Yeah, I know the Nexus One is nearly two year old phone but it is lag-free. I think once Android went Froyo and Gingerbread, they eliminated ALOT of the lag. Not on all Android phones, per se. My N1 is on 2.3.6 Gingerbead, unlocked, and rooted. And it feels far superior in quality than the Nexus S. Like comparing the original iPhone vs iPhone 3G. I wanted the Samsung Note, but since it might NOT come to the U.S. and Sammy is known to make powerful phones with cheap build quality, I may switch only to HTC or when Motorola starts bringing out their own Nexus phones. For now, I can get a taste of Ice Cream Sandwich for dirt cheap and don't have to worry that it only supports the Nexus Prime.

Apple has only ever made about 3 great iPhones based on hardware out of the five generations. The first one and the 4's. The original now has the most unique look after the 4S has cheapened the look of the 4 because they are twins now similar to the iPhone 3's. The 3's success came mostly from the greatness of iOS, so Apple was allowed for incremental updates at the time relative to the competition. From a hardware standpoint, adding 3G, compass, or video camera was no big deal. The original iPhone was the most durable and greatest iPhone of them all just because it was the first and most groundbreaking at the time. It also had the greatest keynote ever.

Thumbs up to BOTH iOS and Android. Both are solid choices with most of the essential apps you need.

Just remember, Nexus One was the first one, about 3 years ago, with only 200mb internal memory and less than 1gz processor.

The Nexus S came with 1gb internal memory and 1gz processor. So, it's a big difference!!

Now the Prime will come with, OMG!!! Speechless!!!

All Nexus versions came AKA "iPhone killers"...

I said before, you can't beat iFashion!

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

entatlrg
Oct 9, 2011, 10:04 AM
I don't buy knock off's or sub par products so the Android OS and all the junk knock off phones aren't for me.

It's funny though, all these years and the developers and manufacturers still can't get it right. They can copy the packaging to a 'T' and some of Apples well thought out accessories and get away with the thieving but that's it.

Anything requiring thought, design, innovation, quality, service it's coming from Apple NOT the knock off's.

Galaxy SII, HTC offerings, Nexus, Blackberry's, Windows computers .... I've experienced those frstrations, I prefer to use and enjoy all my electronics. Apple makes that possible.

After years of ignorance I learned my lessons and I'm not going back. Apple has earned my respect, I'm a fan boy because, for my needs, they make the best products by FAR.

JustLeft
Oct 9, 2011, 11:43 AM
After years of ignorance I learned my lessons and I'm not going back. Apple has earned my respect, I'm a fan boy because, for my needs, they make the best products by FAR.

Based on your comments you would be best to stick with apple products. I get bored easily and like to mix things up. For me its about variety.

wcrov
Oct 9, 2011, 11:53 AM
After years of ignorance I learned my lessons and I'm not going back. Apple has earned my respect, I'm a fan boy because, for my needs, they make the best products by FAR.

Some people come to the world to innovate and change concepts...

Steve Jobs came with excellent idea that change the whole world (and charged thousands of dollars for his idea and followers) making Apple customers like slaves...

Larry Page came with another great idea, that also change the whole world: Make everything on the Internet FREE, giving freedom to the people who follow him...

The world will see when Google start putting its FREE OS in computers... Thats what Larry did with Smartphones...

The world has changed. No one wants to be slave of any OS... Actually, some people like to continue slaves...

BTW, I love my MacBook Pro i7!

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

LapsangSouchong
Oct 9, 2011, 11:56 AM
Some people come to the world to innovate and change concepts...

Steve Jobs came with excellent idea that change the whole world (and charged thousands of dollars for his idea and followers) making Apple customers like slaves...

Larry Page came with another great idea, that also change the whole world: Make everything on the Internet FREE, giving freedom to the people who follow him...

The world will see when Google start putting its FREE OS in computers... Thats what Larry did with Smartphones...

The world has changed. No one wants to be slave of any OS... Actually, some people like to continue slaves...

BTW, I love my MacBook Pro i7!

Sent from my Nexus S using TapatalkAren't you the same kid telling everyone they were slaves to ifashion?? If you truly think Google is a magnanimous (look it up) company wanting to free you you're going to be in for a big shock kiddo.

JohnnyQuest
Oct 9, 2011, 12:01 PM
Just remember, Nexus One was the first one, about 3 years ago, with only 200mb internal memory and less than 1gz processor.

The Nexus S came with 1gb internal memory and 1gz processor. So, it's a big difference!!

Now the Prime will come with, OMG!!! Speechless!!!

All Nexus versions came AKA "iPhone killers"...

I said before, you can't beat iFashion!

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

You're a MESS.

OneMike
Oct 9, 2011, 12:02 PM
Been there done that. The only way I will go android is if I no longer use Mac. Android was GREAT, but went against 90% of my normal apps and routine

mark081990
Oct 9, 2011, 12:03 PM
i have a hole in my heart that buying a new iphone every year fills.

lol.

sentinelsx
Oct 9, 2011, 12:12 PM
Some people come to the world to innovate and change concepts...

Steve Jobs came with excellent idea that change the whole world (and charged thousands of dollars for his idea and followers) making Apple customers like slaves...

Larry Page came with another great idea, that also change the whole world: Make everything on the Internet FREE, giving freedom to the people who follow him...

The world will see when Google start putting its FREE OS in computers... Thats what Larry did with Smartphones...

The world has changed. No one wants to be slave of any OS... Actually, some people like to continue slaves...

BTW, I love my MacBook Pro i7!

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Anyone who believes google is an angel between all the technology companies and its sole reason to exist is to serve people is in for a big shock :)

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Btw why android? I have tried WP7 and IMO for an iOS user, WP7 is a perfect alternative. Same smoothness, consistent OS across all devices, and good updates. Plus as a student i can dev-unlock for free and build and test apps in minutes!

Sure it lacks customization, but i never get why people are so in love with customizing a phone. I haven't cuztomized my Win7 PC except for a new wallpaper every few days. I don't get the point.

For everything else, WP7 smokes android IMO. Anyone looking for a good alternative should try the upcoming second-gen WP7 devices and then make a decision. Plus with Nokia's hardware and offline maps it will be even better.

Vegastouch
Oct 9, 2011, 12:18 PM
Anyone who believes google is an angel between all the technology companies and its sole reason to exist is to serve people is in for a big shock :)

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Btw why android? I have tried WP7 and IMO for an iOS user, WP7 is a perfect alternative. Same smoothness, consistent OS across all devices, and good updates. Plus as a student i can dev-unlock for free and build and test apps in minutes!

Sure it lacks customization, but i never get why people are so in love with customizing a phone. I haven't cuztomized my Win7 PC except for a new wallpaper every few days. I don't get the point.

For everything else, WP7 smokes android IMO. Anyone looking for a good alternative should try the upcoming second-gen WP7 devices and then make a decision. Plus with Nokia's hardware and offline maps it will be even better.

Then why do you put on different wallpapers? Its the same thing. People like to customize other things the way they want it. Im sure you dont use the same ringtone all the time either. I dont see the point of NOT doing that if you can, and with Android...you can and if you could, you would too.

As for WP7...it didnt impress me much but i also didnt take one home for a week and really play with it. Im sure it has its good points. To each their own, for what ive tried, i like Android over WP7.

crajon
Oct 9, 2011, 12:21 PM
Of course not. If people escape the mentally that you need a new phone every year then I think you'll start enjoying your phone a lot more.

sentinelsx
Oct 9, 2011, 12:27 PM
Then why do you put on different wallpapers? Its the same thing. People like to customize other things the way they want it. Im sure you dont use the same ringtone all the time either. I dont see the point of NOT doing that if you can, and with Android...you can and if you could, you would too.

As for WP7...it didnt impress me much but i also didnt take one home for a week and really play with it. Im sure it has its good points. To each their own, for what ive tried, i like Android over WP7.

I have a GS2 and i haven't done anything except for changing wallpaper. I did try some themes for the litening ROM but hated them all. To me they all look unprofessional and just plain ugly.

Also you didn't get my point. Customization doesn't mean everyone should just focus on that for the reason to choose a device. Oh hey, you can customize and android to anything, that alone makes it superior or better. Sorry it doesn't. Customization is moot if the rest of the platform fails to meet my expectations. And surprisingly WP7 actually meets them far better than android.

Vegastouch
Oct 9, 2011, 12:34 PM
I have a GS2 and i haven't done anything except for changing wallpaper. I did try some themes for the litening ROM but hated them all. To me they all look unprofessional and just plain ugly.

Also you didn't get my point. Customization doesn't mean everyone should just focus on that for the reason to choose a device. Oh hey, you can customize and android to anything, that alone makes it superior or better. Sorry it doesn't. Customization is moot if the rest of the platform fails to meet my expectations. And surprisingly WP7 actually meets them far better than android.

Well good for you then. Go use what you like better. Thats what choices are all about and its pretty cool that we have them. If you dont want to utilize the customizations, then thats your choice.
For me, Android works great and the customization...i like it because of all the things i use like facebook, twitter,emails (yahoo & gmail), etc...i have a differnt tone for each so when i hear it, i know which one it is without having to go look thru them. Everything else works for me too.

Im sure id get used to WP7 if i used it long enough but i havent and i have no interest at all in switching to it and i mess with it everytime im in a store or if someone has one that i work with and i just dont really care for it.

MattMJB0188
Oct 9, 2011, 12:39 PM
I have probably had more Android Phones in 2011 then most people will have in a lifetime lol. Before pre-ordering the iPhone 4S Friday morning I had T-Mobile. Beginning December of 2010 I had the myTouch 4G. I wasn't satisfied by this phone and found it to lag. I then purchased the Samsung Galaxy S 4G which lagged so bad I returned it the next day. I then went back to the myTouch 4G again but only to go through 3 of them before calling it quits. Then I went through 3 HTC Sensation's before saying bye bye Android. Every Android phone I've had lagged and didn't feel polished. I am sure the Galaxy S II is no exception.

iOS for LIFE!!!!

sentinelsx
Oct 9, 2011, 12:45 PM
Well good for you then. Go use what you like better. Thats what choices are all about and its pretty cool that we have them. If you dont want to utilize the customizations, then thats your choice.
For me, Android works great and the customization...i like it because of all the things i use like facebook, twitter,emails (yahoo & gmail), etc...i have a differnt tone for each so when i hear it, i know which one it is without having to go look thru them. Everything else works for me too.

Im sure id get used to WP7 if i used it long enough but i havent and i have no interest at all in switching to it and i mess with it everytime im in a store or if someone has one that i work with and i just dont really care for it.

Ok. So i don't see why someone would get riled up for me suggesting why people always say "if iPhone is this, would you go android". Why not WP7, or something else. Those are all valid choices too. Android people always start ferociously defending their precious OS the moment someone utters the name of a different OS>

Vegastouch
Oct 9, 2011, 01:34 PM
Ok. So i don't see why someone would get riled up for me suggesting why people always say "if iPhone is this, would you go android". Why not WP7, or something else. Those are all valid choices too. Android people always start ferociously defending their precious OS the moment someone utters the name of a different OS>

If something comes out that is better or works better for me, ill use that too. I liked my iPhone but had to jailbreak it to get it to do things i wanted it to do which isnt a big deal really but then everytime i updated it, the battery life got worse and finally it wasnt getting updated anymore and it was slow and Android with T-Mobile just was a better option since i would always have EDGE speeds.

I think the OS that Nokia uses looks pretty good too. Without playing with it myself, it looks to me to be something id like better than WP7 but thats intil i actually try it.

Pikkuroope
Oct 9, 2011, 01:40 PM
Why ruin a wonderful design? Like what yesterday was outstanding is now totally out dated.

szolr
Oct 9, 2011, 02:00 PM
Considering it for LTE

That maybe a reason in some places. But in the UK... LTE?! No non tech person has heard the term yet!! It doesn't exist out here. (Makes me feel almost old fashioned :p.)

Seriously though, no. Android? Forget it. I've spent way too much on the App Store to shift camps now for one thing. ;)

Also may I just say I kind of dislike the way you word that question. The iPhone 4S is a redesign over the 3GS. Who the hell upgrades their iPhone every 12 months or so to keep up with the attest model? I may be able to afford multiple Apple computers, an iPhone, iPod touches and an Apple TV but I sure can't afford to get a new iPhone every time one's released.

Let's just examine this a bit deeper as well shall we? iPhone to iPhone 3G-no major redesign. 3G to 3GS-no major redesign. Last year-3GS to 4-major redesign. And do you remember the comments when the design turned up with Gizmodo. Things like, What's with this chunky new casing? It doesn't have a curved back. And what are these seams?!?!?!

I recall the new design didn't receive massively good reviews at all. Until Apple actually released it and explained that the seams were to do with the new antenna system. Then everyone thought "Oh wow. Apple have done it again-revolutionised design simplicity and functionality. Cool!" Mind you, that changed when there was the Antennagate issue.

steve dave
Oct 9, 2011, 02:03 PM
If I wasn't buying a 4s my next phone would be a Windows phone. I've had the chance to spend some time with it and it blows android away.

JediZenMaster
Oct 9, 2011, 02:06 PM
I don't need a redesigned phone every single year i mean really if that's the case then why dont we try and redesign the wheel :p

Sure android's come in different shapes and sizes but more power to them. My iPhone works for me. :apple::cool:

zigzagg321
Oct 9, 2011, 02:09 PM
No way. Every Android phone Ive ever seen...newest ones included look like garbage as far as screen resolution, and the OS is nowhere near intuitive.

Savor
Oct 9, 2011, 02:09 PM
Windows Phone 7 is the only other major smartphone OS I have never owned. I've owned Symbian, BB OS, iOS, webOS, and now currently checking out Android. I am also looking forward to RIM's QNX when they start to become available for phones.

For at least one day, my experiences with Android is not bad at all. I assumed far worse than what it really is. On 2.3.6 Gingerbread and rooted, and this near 2-year old phone is fairly smooth. We will see what that is like a month from now. Perhaps it gets a bad rep and the "laggy" comments get overblown which is no different with other OS-centric websites. So far, I haven't seen the lag or perhaps I am not as OCD like before to even notice a split second difference when scrolling or in multitouch. And about 80% of apps from my iP4, I don't really use and most of the essentials can be found in the Android Market as well. Like that quote from Forrest Gump - "Now, Momma said there's only so much fortune a man really needs and the rest is just for showing off."

I still think Apple has the best ecosystem, stable, and the apps still are better made, If you are too invested with them, stick with them. But there are some nice advantages too with Android like widgets to look at info at a glance and phones offering a expandable memory slot, varying designs, and removable batteries. These phones can be used for a long, long time and not forced to pay $80-$100 because the storage is running out or the battery needs replacement. Apple for the 3rd straight season since 2009, they will charge you $100 just for another 16GB and 32GB of space when microSD cost $15 and $40. So for three straight gens of iPhone, you get the same screen size since 2007 but you also get charged $299 for a 32GB model. Compared to Android phones at 16GB on sale for $99 or less and then adding another $15 for another 16GB microSD. That is a savings of of over $200.

To me, Android might seem like a Trojan horse just for Google's ads, but understand Google also has to deal with the manufacturers' own shortcomings. They can't control the different specs that come out. So it is much harder for them compared to Apple to cater to every phone with varying specs and skins on them. I just like that Ice Cream Sandwich is going to support many older phones. Android isn't as bad NOW compared to their Cupcake and Eclair days. Alot has changed since. Much more refined in the Gingerbread era.

yAak
Oct 9, 2011, 02:25 PM
:confused:

Heck no, I'm ditching Android for an iPhone!

Android phone manufacturers approach smartphones just like they did "Feature phones":
Marketing hype for a few months, churn out a cheaply made product, push it for 6 months, shove it aside and start all over.

I know my Android experiences have probably been worse than the average, but between the differences in hardware quality, warranty/customer service, and OS updates... buying another Android on a 2 year contract for around $200 seems borderline insane.

UncleMac
Oct 9, 2011, 03:12 PM
http://gif.artige.no/store/13/13948.jpg

:D

hippo206
Oct 9, 2011, 03:18 PM
nope

robertpolson
Oct 9, 2011, 03:25 PM
iPhone FTW!

Coarseman
Oct 9, 2011, 03:58 PM
No way and it has never really been something to even start considering.

The question is should I buy the 4S or stick to my beloved 4.

Immediately after the keynote I was, as many others, slightly disappointed by the lack of design change and was firm about not wanting 4S-the new features are all good and right, but it simply did not look like a quantum leap from the 4, which I love and which has never let me down.

Now however, I am considering buying 4S for two main reasons:

1. Having a 4S would be a nice tribute to Steve and will surely be something special from emotional point of view and...

2. This Siri thingy starts to grow on me...:D

ChristianJapan
Oct 9, 2011, 05:20 PM
Now however, I am considering buying 4S for two main reasons:

1. Having a 4S would be a nice tribute to Steve and will surely be something special from emotional point of view and...

2. This Siri thingy starts to grow on me...:D

Exactly same here.

"Siri, please summarize all latest iPhone 5 rumors from last night"

wcrov
Oct 12, 2011, 12:09 PM
You're a MESS.

And I am the one that got moderated (censure) in my posts...

Be happy with your iFashion "Smart"Phone!

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Savor
Oct 12, 2011, 03:08 PM
I just sold my Nexus One like an hour ago for a profit.

I liked some of the things Android had like launcher, live wallpaper, and better integration to my GMail and Google Voice account. But everything about the OS felt undercooked. I felt like it was 2008 again with iOS / JB scene when Winterboard was known to crash and slow down our iPhones. Don't get me wrong, I loved that era in 2008 when jailbreak was new to me. But sometimes we pass that phase of customization and tinkering to get something that simply is more stable.

I really, really wanted to like my Nexus One and even went with the most minimal look and uses for it. It was my dream phone back then. But being it was second hand, I can see why it was being sold. It takes hours and hours to put all my music on there. It crashes everytime I played a video on it no matter which video player app I used. And when I did try to play a video, it would play a song instead and say the card is in error. It would randomly crash or lag even with only like 2-3 widgets on there. The internal memory was so little that NOT all apps can be moved to the microSD card that I would be left with under 20 MB. Going to change my avatar today. The Nexus One simply was flawed and Android being flawed itself doesn't make the experience any better. The apps simply are better made with iOS with better and more fluid UI. Nexus One is such a beautiful phone being marred by Android even more. This was more unstable than when I had the Pixi which was underpowered by comparison.

Not a great first experience with Android, but there is still some potential there that I can still myself going back to one if the hardware and OS is polished enough. For every thing you can do with Android, there is also as much headache to go along with it sometimes. I am hardly a fanboy for any brand, but Apple simply is the best right now and many shouldn't argue with it anymore if you tried them all. Nothing else out there can really compare at everything. I may go check out WP7 next but even I don't expect it to surpass iPhone.

One week after Steve's death, and it was almost like an omen for me to sell off my first Android while I finally got my iPhone 2G to reactivate again after spending a couple more days playing with the N1. The man even in death is like Obi-Wan Kenobi in spirit and still use his Jedi mind tricks.

Just stick to Apple. It just works. :apple:

wcrov
Oct 13, 2011, 06:22 AM
Thanks Apple for giving us a choice of syncing Gmail (AKA Android) contacts thru MacOSX iCloud app...

This way I can continue to use the best setup: My MacBook Pro with my Nexus S...

That was a very good deed from Apple to their customers!

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wcrov
Oct 19, 2011, 04:31 AM
Wholly cow!!!!!

Introducing Galaxy Nexus. Simple, beautiful, beyond smart, and the first phone to run #ICS. http://google.com/nexus

That's why all Google Nexus Series are AKA "iPhone killers"...

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SandboxGeneral
Oct 19, 2011, 04:40 AM
Wirelessly posted (iPhone 4S: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3)

Curious how many MR members are seriously considering an Android device if the next iPhone features no redesign and is strictly a spec update.

UPDATE: NOW THAT THE NON-REDESIGN IS OFFICIAL, WILL YOU GO ANDROID???

No. Aesthetics aren't the only reason for me to keep or change a phone. The iPhone isn't a status symbol for me. I like it because it's functional to me and I like the iOS ecosystem.

The iPhone does all I need and want it to and it's works seemlessly with my Mac and ATV2.

vitzr
Oct 19, 2011, 04:51 AM
I'm already using both, and have been since Android was first introduced. I really enjoy having two lines and two different platforms.

I'm too much of an Apple enthusiast to give up on them. I've had every iPhone up until the 4S, which I purposely passed on since it doesn't appeal to me.

After a few years of 4.3" displays on my various Androids I'm just too happy with that size to buy another iPhone with it's tiny display. The moment Apple comes to their senses and includes a larger display I will then buy immediately.

clborden
Oct 19, 2011, 05:08 AM
I learned a big lesson last year after Apples conference for "Antenneagate" when I threw a tantrum and switched from my new iPhone 4 to the Droid X, then to the Droid 2, then over to Sprint's Evo. Both Droids were severely overloaded with bugs & I vowed NEVER to by a Motorola phone again. The Evo was nice, but really lacked when compared to IOS's polished experience. I picked up my girl's iPhone and realized what I was missing. I put it down & went straight to AT&T to get another iPhone 4. Unless the user experience goes to hell, I don't think I'll be defecting to Android for ANYTHING!!! Now, WP7? That doesn't look bad at all. But for now, iOS & myself are in a great relationship.

wcrov
Oct 19, 2011, 06:42 AM
Sorry for quoting myself...
Problem solved.. :)

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boss.king
Oct 19, 2011, 07:40 AM
That's why all Google Nexus Series are AKA "iPhone killers"...

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You do realise you're quoting yourself right?

iamthedudeman
Oct 19, 2011, 07:52 AM
You do realise you're quoting yourself right?


Lol. :D

He is a troll made from lesser trolls. Lol.

Android 4.0 looks not bad. Not as good as IOS5. Delayed because of Steve, or maybe to get up up to par with IOS. The Specs are weak sauce. Weaker camera with weaker optics. Weaker CPU and GPU, screen bigger. Face rec. Why? Gimmick. How is that even useful?

Siri is useful and innovative. NFC payments are nice thought. Until Google can provide a Ecosystem that can compete with Apple they will always play second fiddle. LTE is a bonus if they produce one, not just promise one. If the battery life doesn't suck. Which I doubt.

But it is like a iPhone. Lol. iPhone killer, sure. Hahaha.

wcrov
Oct 19, 2011, 08:47 AM
You do realise you're quoting yourself right?

Yes I do!
I just forgot to edit my previous post adding more relevant information, sorry..

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nfl46
Oct 19, 2011, 08:56 AM
No, Android doesn't stick with their devices long enough. I'm not about to pay $200 for a Android device then three months later, it cannot even support the latest OS update and spec wise, is already outdated, compared to the newer Android devices.

nefan65
Oct 19, 2011, 08:56 AM
You do realise you're quoting yourself right?

I'm sure I'll get reported for this, but he's just trolling.

dgree03
Oct 19, 2011, 08:56 AM
Lol. :D

He is a troll made from lesser trolls. Lol.

Android 4.0 looks not bad. Not as good as IOS5. Delayed because of Steve, or maybe to get up up to par with IOS. The Specs are weak sauce. Weaker camera with weaker optics. Weaker CPU and GPU, screen bigger. Face rec. Why? Gimmick. How is that even useful?

Siri is useful and innovative. NFC payments are nice thought. Until Google can provide a Ecosystem that can compete with Apple they will always play second fiddle. LTE is a bonus if they produce one, not just promise one. If the battery life doesn't suck. Which I doubt.

But it is like a iPhone. Lol. iPhone killer, sure. Hahaha.

Please comfirm that the spec are in fact weaker? I need facts, not opinion.

Jman13
Oct 19, 2011, 09:04 AM
I find it funny that the Nexus phones are iPhone Killers. And yet, how many Nexus S phones have sold? My guess is fewer than the iPhone 4S sold on its first weekend. Samsung reported that ALL Galaxy S 1 phones (of which the Nexus S is part of) have sold 20 million units. I highly doubt the Nexus S accounts for 1/4 of them.

The Galaxy Nexus looks like a very solid phone, but based on what I've seen with benchmarks on other similarly specified phones, the 4S should be slightly faster in regular processing tasks, MASSIVELY faster in graphics performance (they're using an old GPU that is nowhere near as good as the one in the 4S) and will likely have worse battery life. Yes, the screen is much bigger (too big IMO, but that's for each user to decide), and very high res, and that's awesome. ICS looks quite nice (they stole some good things from webOS). Camera is meh.

Hardly an iPhone killer, unless you base your purchasing decisions solely on screen size, and you want huge.

dgree03
Oct 19, 2011, 09:09 AM
I find it funny that the Nexus phones are iPhone Killers. And yet, how many Nexus S phones have sold? My guess is fewer than the iPhone 4S sold on its first weekend. Samsung reported that ALL Galaxy S 1 phones (of which the Nexus S is part of) have sold 20 million units. I highly doubt the Nexus S accounts for 1/4 of them.

The Galaxy Nexus looks like a very solid phone, but based on what I've seen with benchmarks on other similarly specified phones, the 4S should be slightly faster in regular processing tasks, MASSIVELY faster in graphics performance (they're using an old GPU that is nowhere near as good as the one in the 4S) and will likely have worse battery life. Yes, the screen is much bigger (too big IMO, but that's for each user to decide), and very high res, and that's awesome. ICS looks quite nice (they stole some good things from webOS). Camera is meh.

Hardly an iPhone killer, unless you base your purchasing decisions solely on screen size, and you want huge.

I think the term "Iphone Killer" come not from the amount of handset samsung can move, but the feature set of the handset + OS.

The feature set can be a Iphone Killer, without actually outselling an iPhone 4 or 4s.

onthecouchagain
Oct 19, 2011, 09:43 AM
If anyone is the least bit interested in Android, this thorough demo should give you a better idea of ICS: http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in-depth-hands-on-video-galaxy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/#ooid=E1dW53MjpYgQ4DWe7QPVi5nDysPF3OfZ

l3it3r
Oct 19, 2011, 10:06 AM
after seeing how much more ridiculous the UI on android got with 4.0, I'm going to be sticking with iPhone for the foreseeable future.

I wasn't really thinking about switching in the first place, I've purchased over $600 in software between my iPhone, iPad and iPod... :eek:

saaketham
Oct 19, 2011, 10:24 AM
Since I went from a 3gS to a 4S, the new phone is already a new design for me. I like the sleek, understated design of the 4 and 4s. If I were to go to Android, it wouldn't be for the phone design, but if Android becomes such a pleasure to use that it overtakes iOS in sleekness, smoothness and everything else. Currently, Android feels very very dated and DOS-like, while iOS is the standard for elegant UI, IMHO.

Jman13
Oct 19, 2011, 10:31 AM
I think the term "Iphone Killer" come not from the amount of handset samsung can move, but the feature set of the handset + OS.

The feature set can be a Iphone Killer, without actually outselling an iPhone 4 or 4s.

Killer implies it will kill the iPhone. i.e. displace it from top of the heap. At least, that's what I think of. Is it a better phone? That's up for debate. It might be. It probably is in many areas, and is not in many areas. That's why we have choice. :)

wcrov
Oct 19, 2011, 11:01 AM
If anyone is the least bit interested in Android, this thorough demo should give you a better idea of ICS: http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in-depth-hands-on-video-galaxy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/#ooid=E1dW53MjpYgQ4DWe7QPVi5nDysPF3OfZ

Speechless...
However some people like to go iFashion...

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onthecouchagain
Oct 19, 2011, 11:12 AM
Typically, fanboys and sometimes journalists assign monikers such as "the iPhone killer" to a new device. It's kind of silly. iPhone isn't going to be "killed," and to be the "iPhone killer" often isn't even the intent of the maker of said device.

tekno
Oct 19, 2011, 11:51 AM
I don't want the 4S but need a new phone cos my 3GS is on its last legs

I'd like to go Android but have one massive concern - I live on iCal. Will Android sync with iCal?! What are my options in this area?

Wicked1
Oct 19, 2011, 12:10 PM
Sticking with Apple and keeping my iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S if no redesign.

The only product I know that will work for years without major issues.

Try getting a Windows phone, BB, or Android phone to work for more than 2 years, the batteries do not last and the OS upgrades are horrible to do. I learned to stay away after the 2.1 upgrade on my wife's HTC Droid Eris from 1.6, made the phone worse than it was. The only phone I find remotely interesting is the HTC Inspire as I am on AT&T, however I have a feeling they will be replacing it soon as the price has dropped to Free almost. I prefer to stick with the 3.5 or 3.7" screen the bigger screens eat your battery, and I really do not need mine to replace a laptop or desktop Mac, my phone is an inbetween device, not a replacement.

Others may leave, but fact is you can not ignore the acutal facts, Apple is selling the phones and they are the hottest electronic device out there, the problem is they compare the 50 different Android based phones running 10 different version to just one iOS device, how is this a fair and how can we say Android is out selling Apple when one OS sells across several and the other is only on one.

kvizzel
Oct 19, 2011, 12:11 PM
There isn't really much to redesign...

The iPhone 4 size, style, body everything is pretty much perfect.
It feels amazing in the hand, and if it were to go thinner. That would just be silly.

mds
Oct 19, 2011, 12:19 PM
I'm curious about android, but I know I like the iphone and the OS. My previous phone was a Palm Pre, which I actually liked a lot, but ultimately it was a disappointment. I'm sticking with Apple until someone show's me a more complete total package.

96whitels
Oct 19, 2011, 12:32 PM
size doesn't matter.

miggitymac
Oct 19, 2011, 01:19 PM
Face rec. Why? Gimmick. How is that even useful?

Siri is useful and innovative. NFC payments are nice thought. Until Google can provide a Ecosystem that can compete with Apple they will always play second fiddle. LTE is a bonus if they produce one, not just promise one. If the battery life doesn't suck. Which I doubt.

But it is like a iPhone. Lol. iPhone killer, sure. Hahaha.

Are you serious? Siri is more "gimmicky" than face recognition...who would use it in public? If you're in a packed elevator or in the middle of a school lecture or business meeting, you're going to pull out your phone and ask Siri to make a note for you? You'd look like a complete douche....and given that it's already been around for a while, I fail to see how it's innovative.

How is face recognition useful? You take the phone out of your pocket, look at it, and BAM you're using your phone. Way quicker than entering a 4 digit number. And since it's the first time used on any smartphone, I'd say it's pretty damn innovative.

And Google's ecosystem isn't bad...I'm sure many iPeople are already on it in some way with Gmail/contacts/google maps/google docs, etc...

I agree about the battery being a concern, but the fact that they used a less powerful GPU and underclocked the CPU should help in that area without compromising too much of the phone's abilities. Isn't it always the Apple fanboys preaching that specs aren't everything? And it's not like the iPhone 4S has a wonderful battery-life (from what I hear).

I'll have to wait until further testing/comparison has been done before I plunk down my cash, but demos like the TechCrunch video have me thinking that the Nexus is a pretty impressive phone.

boss.king
Oct 19, 2011, 01:30 PM
Are you serious? Siri is more "gimmicky" than face recognition...who would use it in public? If you're in a packed elevator or in the middle of a school lecture or business meeting, you're going to pull out your phone and ask Siri to make a note for you? You'd look like a complete douche....and given that it's already been around for a while, I fail to see how it's innovative.

How is face recognition useful? You take the phone out of your pocket, look at it, and BAM you're using your phone. Way quicker than entering a 4 digit number. And since it's the first time used on any smartphone, I'd say it's pretty damn innovative.

Well put. People seem to forget that innovation doesn't mean "something I think is good". It's a totally new feature designed to make using your phone that extra little bit easier, just as Siri does, except this does it in a way that's never been done before. That's the innovation. I'm sure if I owned this phone I'd definitely use the face recognition :)

wcrov
Oct 19, 2011, 01:42 PM
Unfortunately some people don't like iNnovation... They like iFashion...

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e34guy
Oct 19, 2011, 07:41 PM
Nope never will ditch the iPhone again FU BlackBerry!

iamthedudeman
Oct 20, 2011, 11:01 AM
Are you serious? Siri is more "gimmicky" than face recognition...who would use it in public? If you're in a packed elevator or in the middle of a school lecture or business meeting, you're going to pull out your phone and ask Siri to make a note for you? You'd look like a complete douche....and given that it's already been around for a while, I fail to see how it's innovative.

How is face recognition useful? You take the phone out of your pocket, look at it, and BAM you're using your phone. Way quicker than entering a 4 digit number. And since it's the first time used on any smartphone, I'd say it's pretty damn innovative.

And Google's ecosystem isn't bad...I'm sure many iPeople are already on it in some way with Gmail/contacts/google maps/google docs, etc...

I agree about the battery being a concern, but the fact that they used a less powerful GPU and underclocked the CPU should help in that area without compromising too much of the phone's abilities. Isn't it always the Apple fanboys preaching that specs aren't everything? And it's not like the iPhone 4S has a wonderful battery-life (from what I hear).

I'll have to wait until further testing/comparison has been done before I plunk down my cash, but demos like the TechCrunch video have me thinking that the Nexus is a pretty impressive phone.

Gimmicky. Lol

Over the past week. Siri enabled me to get all of my new text messages and emails, reply to my text messages, check my calendar, move an appointment, create an appointment including inviting someone to a meeting, check the weather, play a specific song, find where a specific friend was in the world (using Apple’s Find My Friends app), and make a few phone calls. All while not actually having my phone in my hands while driving.

Try that with your Android device. I own a Galaxy S2 and know it's limitations. So I will answer that question for you, not in a million years.

It hasn't been around for awhile. This is not voice control as in Android. Its AI.

Don't give me that Iris bull. Garbage a quick 'tacked on' response to Siri, embarrassing actually.

http://www.knowyourmobile.in/news/1097910/android_iris_vs_apple_siri_the_ultimate_face_off.html

compare that to this. yeah the same. :roll eyes:

Siri is a spin-out from the SRI International Artificial Intelligence Center , and is an offshoot of the DARPA-funded CALO project, described as perhaps the largest artificial-intelligence project ever launched

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(software)

And no Voice Actions isn't in the same ball park, not even close. Don't give me that crap. Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Siri is a game changer, plain and simple.

Yes face recognition is gimmicky. It allows you to open your phone, big deal. How is that innovative?

Siri is not. Actually is useful. As stated in my post. I swipe my finger across the screen. How hard is that? Siri can be used from the lock screen also. Hold in the home button, wow, that is hard.

You do know that you can hold the phone to your ear same as on a call and Siri activates automatically don't you. It would look the same as if you were on a call. How does that look like a douche?

And yes Google's eco system sucks. They don't have anything to compare with Apple. I know, I have tried it and it sucks. Period.

Performance? Right now as it stands the 4S is the fastest smartphone on the block. Hardware doesn't mean squat if the OS cannot take advantage of it.

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-review-11187049/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-benchmarks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2

When you're less concerned about longevity and more concerned about outright speed, the 4S won't disappoint when compared to its predecessors. On the SunSpider 9.1 JavaScript benchmark, a good test of overall ability to render the best the web has to offer, the phone scores a 2,200ms on average. That's well lower (quicker) than the 3,700 the iPhone 4 manages and faster than any other smartphone we've tested. In fact it ranks right up there with tablets like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (2,200), but still the iPad 2 leaves it behind with its score of 1,700.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/iphone-4s-review/

The Prime isn't out yet, but even still I don't think the 4S will be outclassed by any means. Take that 1750 battery and I will say a big "no thanks'.

tekno
Apr 8, 2012, 02:47 AM
Curious how many MR members are seriously considering an Android device if the next iPhone features no redesign and is strictly a spec update.

UPDATE: NOW THAT THE NON-REDESIGN IS OFFICIAL, WILL YOU GO ANDROID???

Yes, I have gone Android. And I think its purely because I'm bored of looking at the iPhone. I always said it was just until Apple redesigned the iPhone but after a month with my Galaxy S2, I actually greatly prefer it.

mabaker
Apr 8, 2012, 02:56 AM
These are the most infantile threads that let me doubt MacRumors sanity.

Just because Porsche will not get a re-design in 2013 does NOT mean I will go Kia.

mbell1975
Apr 8, 2012, 02:59 AM
Yes, I have gone Android. And I think its purely because I'm bored of looking at the iPhone. I always said it was just until Apple redesigned the iPhone but after a month with my Galaxy S2, I actually greatly prefer it.

You had to bump a 6 month old thread to announce this? One of the other 582 Android threads here wouldn't do? By the way, no one cares. See ya.

tekno
Apr 8, 2012, 03:07 AM
You had to bump a 6 month old thread to announce this? One of the other 582 Android threads here wouldn't do? By the way, no one cares. See ya.

I'm forever reading posts instructing people to search before posting. I searched for something. I saw this. I added to it (this is a forum, after all). And then I got slated for it.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

mbell1975
Apr 8, 2012, 03:10 AM
I'm forever reading posts instructing people to search before posting. I searched for something. I saw this. I added to it (this is a forum, after all). And then I got slated for it.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

You didn't see the multiple Android threads on the first page? You must have because you felt the need to reply in yet another announcing you have switched to Android. Does this mean you will leave this forum now?

tekno
Apr 8, 2012, 03:12 AM
Just because Porsche will not get a re-design in 2013 does NOT mean I will go Kia.

I used to have a Merc. When they brought out the new, redesigned version I went straight to my dealer to order one. When I sat in it I noticed the interior was identical to my older model.

A matter of months later I sold my older Merc and bought a Range Rover. I'm now on my second Range Rover and can't see myself going back to Mercedes any time soon.

----------

You didn't see the multiple Android threads on the first page? You must have because you felt the need to reply in yet another announcing you have switched to Android. Does this mean you will leave this forum now?

First page of what?

onthecouchagain
Apr 8, 2012, 07:25 AM
Im more looking at the software update than I am a redesigned hardware. Some things about iOS sorely need improving.

siurpeeman
Apr 8, 2012, 07:30 AM
i jumped ship to verizon last year from at&t, and the first thing i noticed was the slower data speeds (albeit more consistent and reliable). with this year's iphone, i'm really looking forward to lte more than anything. if it has it, i don't care what the next iphone looks like. if not, i may do feature phone + lte ipad. i won't go to android, though. been there, done that.

Invincibilizer
Apr 8, 2012, 08:46 AM
Not going to wait for the next iPhone.

It's not the iPhone thats the problem, iOS is just too old sure app selection was nice but less app diversity won't kill me on Android.

Moving to Android to experience something new!

NutsNGum
Apr 8, 2012, 08:53 AM
I was looking into getting a note until I saw that the stylus was called the S pen, which is one letter away from being something altogether less pleasant.

dvoros
Apr 8, 2012, 09:18 AM
Yes, if its not a redesign I will probably move to a phone with a min. 4.5 screen and preferably a 5 inch screen

dzigg
Apr 8, 2012, 09:39 AM
LOL.. people.. this is a thread about when the Next iPhone is the 4S! Not the phone AFTER the 4S.. This is what happened when someone digging an old thread..

Anyways.. funny enough, the question is still valid for now.. so my answer is, I won't go to Android because of the 'Apple' environment I'm in. I hate to say this but Apple has successfully created an environment that is so pleasant, easy to use, and beautiful.. DAMN YOU:apple:! :p

ericdajerk
Apr 8, 2012, 09:47 AM
im gone once HTC one x hits at&t

mbell1975
Apr 8, 2012, 10:44 AM
I am not some iPhone fanboy. I actually hated the iPhone and have had 7 Android phones over the past 3 years. Before you go running off to Android, you may want to think about its biggest problems. Not getting your device supported or updated for starters. You got a problem? Google doesn't care, neither will your carrier. They are in too big of a hurry trying to rush out the next version of the OS (that your phone will never see) or too busy trying to market their new phone to snag new contracts. There are currently 1443 Android phones (let that sink in a minute) and do you know how many are running the newest OS thats been out for over 5 months? THREE phones and one of those actually launched with it. What a pathetic joke. 65% of those phones will never even see the update because the phone is either no longer supported (although within their 2 year contracts still) or no longer capable of running the OS. The vast majority of those phone are stuck on an OS TWO years old and can't even download the newer apps from the market or get a fix for their problems. Check this out

http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/05/is-the-iphone-fragmented-ios-adoption-measured-against-android/

“iOS 5 captured approximately 75% of all iOS users in the same amount of time it took Gingerbread to get 4% of all Android users,” Sauve wrote in his analysis on pxldot. “Even more astounding is that 15 weeks after launch iOS 4 was at 70% and iOS 5 was at 60% while Ice Cream Sandwich got to just 1% share at the same age. If there were any question as to whether iOS had a less fragmented ecosystem than Android, the past two charts provide a fairly definitive answer.” Sauve continued, “iOS devices have, on average, reached 10% version share 300 times faster than Android versions, 30% share 19 times faster, and 50% share 7 times faster.”

Here is another good recent article to read about the mess Android has become

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-sorry-state-of-android-hardware-fragmentation/19427

Smug Boy
Apr 8, 2012, 10:49 AM
Not going to wait for the next iPhone.

It's not the iPhone thats the problem, iOS is just too old sure app selection was nice but less app diversity won't kill me on Android.

Moving to Android to experience something new!

If IOS it too old then what is Android? You could only categorize it as an unfinished rip off of an too old operating system.

tekno
Apr 8, 2012, 10:54 AM
LOL.. people.. this is a thread about when the Next iPhone is the 4S! Not the phone AFTER the 4S.. This is what happened when someone digging an old thread..


So people, the moral of this is DO NOT SEARCH as there's a chance you may actually find an old thread. Instead, make sure you create a new thread whenever you have anything you wish to say.

Ngorkes
Apr 8, 2012, 11:09 AM
I am almost positive it will be redesigned. Put if it wasn't I will stick to my iPhone4.

Vegastouch
Apr 8, 2012, 12:00 PM
You had to bump a 6 month old thread to announce this? One of the other 582 Android threads here wouldn't do? By the way, no one cares. See ya.

Apparently, you do ;)

bvlgari
Apr 8, 2012, 04:14 PM
i had once a android phone. i stay on :apple: even without redesign

blairh
Apr 10, 2012, 11:05 AM
I will probably wait to see what Apple has to offer us this fall, however I am incredibly excited to test out the HTC One X at AT&T when it is available. By all accounts from the reviews I've read the display is incredible. One of the few (if not the only) display to rival the clarity of the retina display (and 1.2" larger to boot).

Radio
Apr 10, 2012, 11:08 AM
Apple has me by the balls.

They could release a brick and it would sell

Hastings101
Apr 10, 2012, 12:01 PM
No, because Android just isn't very tempting to me. In my opinion it's hard to use and none of the "openness" stuff is a selling point for me. Also has less apps and, from what I've heard, there's problems with malware. I would ditch the iPhone if a dual core Windows Phone with a high resolution display ever surfaced :D

Kyotoma
Apr 10, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nope. Even if I were to stray from iOS, Android would be one of my last choices. Windows Phone 7 would probably be my main choice if I were to not have iOS.

Sith Vol
Apr 10, 2012, 12:22 PM
I am not some iPhone fanboy. I actually hated the iPhone and have had 7 Android phones over the past 3 years. Before you go running off to Android, you may want to think about its biggest problems. Not getting your device supported or updated for starters. You got a problem? Google doesn't care, neither will your carrier. They are in too big of a hurry trying to rush out the next version of the OS (that your phone will never see) or too busy trying to market their new phone to snag new contracts. There are currently 1443 Android phones (let that sink in a minute) and do you know how many are running the newest OS thats been out for over 5 months? THREE phones and one of those actually launched with it. What a pathetic joke. 65% of those phones will never even see the update because the phone is either no longer supported (although within their 2 year contracts still) or no longer capable of running the OS. The vast majority of those phone are stuck on an OS TWO years old and can't even download the newer apps from the market or get a fix for their problems. Check this out

http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/05/is-the-iphone-fragmented-ios-adoption-measured-against-android/

“iOS 5 captured approximately 75% of all iOS users in the same amount of time it took Gingerbread to get 4% of all Android users,” Sauve wrote in his analysis on pxldot. “Even more astounding is that 15 weeks after launch iOS 4 was at 70% and iOS 5 was at 60% while Ice Cream Sandwich got to just 1% share at the same age. If there were any question as to whether iOS had a less fragmented ecosystem than Android, the past two charts provide a fairly definitive answer.” Sauve continued, “iOS devices have, on average, reached 10% version share 300 times faster than Android versions, 30% share 19 times faster, and 50% share 7 times faster.”

Here is another good recent article to read about the mess Android has become

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-sorry-state-of-android-hardware-fragmentation/19427

Good post.

xAnthony
Apr 10, 2012, 09:26 PM
I doubt I would switch just because of the money I have invested in iOS. But if there is no re-design this year I would be extremely disappointed. I probably wouldn't upgrade either and just use my iPhone 4 until a redesign comes out. I rather not be stuck in another 3 year contract. Especially with the same design of a phone.

I do love the all glass design, but it's been long enough and a change is needed.

Vorpal279
Apr 11, 2012, 12:42 AM
We're seeing some evidence that Apple may be increasing screen size for the next iPhone release. I hope they do, because it's long overdue. If they don't increase the screen size, I'll probably just hold on to my iPhone 4 and hope they'll redesign the release after that. Also, LTE is still not available in my area and that will affect my decision.

onthecouchagain
Apr 11, 2012, 09:01 AM
Notification light... please.

Lunchbox700
Apr 11, 2012, 09:18 AM
Notification light... please.

The only thing I miss from my Blackberry after jumping ship a few months ago.

onthecouchagain
Apr 11, 2012, 09:24 AM
The only thing I miss from my Blackberry after jumping ship a few months ago.

I miss sound profiles too, to some degree.

RolandNights
Apr 11, 2012, 09:28 AM
My contract doesn't expire until 2014, so I would have to consider the question then. A lot can happen between now and then. Android (or Windows) can make up a lot of ground. Hell, maybe Apple will drop the ball.

As it is now, the answer is a definitive no. I've had my iPhone for only two months and I'm more invested in it (in terms of apps, accessories, etc.) then I ever was with my last two Android phones combined. I love how it's integrated with all my Apple products, even though there's plenty of room for improvement. So for now, I'm sticking with the iPhone.

As a big technology fan, it'll be fun to see where iOS/Android/WP go in the next couple of years.

Lunchbox700
Apr 11, 2012, 09:35 AM
I miss sound profiles too, to some degree.

Ha that's funny I was just thinking that too . Neither are big deals but would like them nonetheless .

Smileyboy
Apr 11, 2012, 11:37 AM
Apple has me by the balls.

They could release a brick and it would sell

I totally agree.

Cripps
Apr 11, 2012, 07:14 PM
No.

ru4real
Apr 11, 2012, 07:22 PM
Not a chance. I tried an Android a couple months ago (Galaxy S2). After 1 week I was conviced I will never go back to Android.

Notification light... please.

Have you tried turning on LED notifications on your iPhone (assuming it's a 4 or 4s)? The setting is under accessibility

RTiii320
Apr 12, 2012, 07:34 AM
If the next iPhone is not a re-design, then I will just stick with my iPhone 4 for another year.

I don't have to upgrade and my iPhone 4 will not self destruct when the next iPhone is released, so why would I jump to an Android device?

exactly, I have not upgraded to the 4S however I might upgrade to the 5 for the extra memory alone, wether the design has changed or not.. 64gb sure seems nice

Rocko1
Apr 12, 2012, 06:15 PM
UPDATE: NOW THAT THE NON-REDESIGN IS OFFICIAL, WILL YOU GO ANDROID???

Source or it's smoke from your bunghole.

blairh
Apr 12, 2012, 06:24 PM
Source or it's smoke from your bunghole.

Er, you are mistaken here. I edited my OP last fall immediately after the 4S keynote. So I'm referencing that, and many months ago.

dontwalkhand
Apr 12, 2012, 06:30 PM
Are you serious? Siri is more "gimmicky" than face recognition...who would use it in public? If you're in a packed elevator or in the middle of a school lecture or business meeting, you're going to pull out your phone and ask Siri to make a note for you? You'd look like a complete douche....and given that it's already been around for a while, I fail to see how it's innovative.

How is face recognition useful? You take the phone out of your pocket, look at it, and BAM you're using your phone. Way quicker than entering a 4 digit number. And since it's the first time used on any smartphone, I'd say it's pretty damn innovative.

And Google's ecosystem isn't bad...I'm sure many iPeople are already on it in some way with Gmail/contacts/google maps/google docs, etc...

I agree about the battery being a concern, but the fact that they used a less powerful GPU and underclocked the CPU should help in that area without compromising too much of the phone's abilities. Isn't it always the Apple fanboys preaching that specs aren't everything? And it's not like the iPhone 4S has a wonderful battery-life (from what I hear).

I'll have to wait until further testing/comparison has been done before I plunk down my cash, but demos like the TechCrunch video have me thinking that the Nexus is a pretty impressive phone.

Simple, I don't waste time thinking about what others think of me...if I want to use Siri in public I'll do as I please so long as its legal.

kryten3000
Apr 12, 2012, 06:34 PM
No.