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ClarkeB
May 1, 2005, 01:26 PM
Not to mention all their coverage of the new "Mac Tiger OS" (I've never heard of it!!) Their review makes no sense at all.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_Mac_OS_10_4_Tiger/4505-3673_7-31256837-4.html?tag=top

Under the little screencap of Dashboard, there's this little quote "Doesn't look like a Mac, does it?"...umm...it looks quite a bit like Panther

Then, on that same page, there's this quote "Tiger has been called by some a 'developer's release,'"...umm...the developer's release was called a developer's release. Just like the server release was called a server release and then consumer release was called a consumer release.




Not to mention the numerous mentions of longwait...

What is CNET's problem?



grapes911
May 1, 2005, 01:29 PM
Personlly, I love cnet. I don't trust their reviews of Apple products, though. I ususally put some faith in their reviews of printers, PCs, phone, etc.

Edit: I think its a developer release too. Its buggy as hell.

PlaceofDis
May 1, 2005, 01:35 PM
C|net has never been very Mac friendly, and they are never the best resource when it comes to actual computers. They have a tendency to be very biased. However, their perherial reviews and comments are usually rather good, its just their computer hardware and editorials that are annoying

Daveway
May 1, 2005, 01:36 PM
The problem with CNet and ZDnet is that their editors are old gubbers. They have these old Windows die hards who think they know abou technology running the show. Molly Wood is the only person over there who knows and can appreciate Tiger and Apple.

jaw04005
May 1, 2005, 03:19 PM
Apple doesn't advertise on C|Net. That's the main reason, ever noticed that practically every product that Dell makes gets a "C|Net Editor's Choice." Hurm... I wonder why...

I read a Dell review the other day (don't remember which product) and they went on an on about how great Dell's phone support is. Give me a break, it's in India and most of the CSRs are barely understandable.

grapes911
May 1, 2005, 03:25 PM
Give me a break, it's in India and most of the CSRs are barely understandable.
Untrue. Dell received a lot of complaints about their service in india. Over the last 6 months or so, Dell has moved alot of its support back to the US. They plan to move even more. The majority is still in India, but you got to at least give them credit for listening to their customers.

jaw04005
May 1, 2005, 03:34 PM
Untrue. Dell received a lot of complaints about their service in india. Over the last 6 months or so, Dell has moved alot of its support back to the US. They plan to move even more. The majority is still in India, but you got to at least give them credit for listening to their customers.

As the owner of three dell desktop's, when I call their support line I can tell that I'm speaking with someone in another country. I just called support last week.

Over the past year, they have moved their Latitude and Optiplex division's support back to the U.S. because of complaints from their business customers.

However, the bulk of Dell's products (including their consumer desktop line) is still overseas. No other announcements have been made regarding the consumer division.

BWhaler
May 1, 2005, 03:35 PM
Personlly, I love cnet. I don't trust their reviews of Apple products, though. I ususally put some faith in their reviews of printers, PCs, phone, etc.

Edit: I think its a developer release too. Its buggy as hell.

The reason why you don't trust their Apple reviews is the same reason you shouldn't trust their reviews of any other product.

And that reason is C|Net is basically a shill for their big advertisers: Microsoft, Dell, HP, et al. You will never, ever see a bad review of their products, ever. And most are editors choice.

And of course, they bash Apple products, on the whole, because that's what their reviewers want.

Yes, they softened up lately on Apple because there was no denying the iPod was a hit. But the early reviews years ago were not pleasant. Plus, they also see the shift everyone in the industry does which favors Apple--for now.

But CNET is not a place I would go and trust reviews, except maybe the user forums. Go to specialty sites where the reviews are honest and the sites are more consumer supported.

BWhaler
May 1, 2005, 03:35 PM
Apple doesn't advertise on C|Net. That's the main reason, ever noticed that practically every product that Dell makes gets a "C|Net Editor's Choice." Hurm... I wonder why...

I read a Dell review the other day (don't remember which product) and they went on an on about how great Dell's phone support is. Give me a break, it's in India and most of the CSRs are barely understandable.

Exactly. They know where there bread is buttered.

BWhaler
May 1, 2005, 03:36 PM
Untrue. Dell received a lot of complaints about their service in india. Over the last 6 months or so, Dell has moved alot of its support back to the US. They plan to move even more. The majority is still in India, but you got to at least give them credit for listening to their customers.

The round trip was fast. They are hiring more in India.

dialo
May 1, 2005, 04:15 PM
Not to mention all their coverage of the new "Mac Tiger OS" (I've never heard of it!!) Their review makes no sense at all...What is CNET's problem?
No offense, ClarkeB, but your post is so misguided it's painful to read.

Under the little screencap of Dashboard, there's this little quote "Doesn't look like a Mac, does it?"...umm...it looks quite a bit like Panther
Considering not a single element in that shot existed in panther, your reply to what was nothing more than a little comment at the end of a caption is both strange and wrong.

Then, on that same page, there's this quote "Tiger has been called by some a 'developer's release,'"...umm...the developer's release was called a developer's release. Just like the server release was called a server release and then consumer release was called a consumer release.
That's not what they were referring to, and you should have been able to figure that out from the full sentence:

Tiger has been called by some a "developer's release," and that's especially evident in two new central technologies: Core Image and Core Data.

In other words, the reason people refer to it as a 'developer's release' is because some of the most significant new features are on the developer side and hidden from users.

wiseguy27
May 1, 2005, 06:02 PM
The problem with CNet and ZDnet is that their editors are old gubbers. They have these old Windows die hards who think they know abou technology running the show. Molly Wood is the only person over there who knows and can appreciate Tiger and Apple.

I haven't read anything about Tiger/Apple by Molly Wood, but I hate whatever she writes about Mozilla (or Firefox) or anything else. I've read some of her articles and I concluded that she's too dumb to even move her mouse and click around on menus to learn how to do stuff. From what I read she seemed to be a hardcore "Windows and Microsoft spokesperson". :p

Over the past few years I have realized that CNET is actually biased more towards Windows/MS etc.

I do like CNET's peripheral/gadget reviews (although I do try to double check with other sources). :)

Maedus
May 1, 2005, 07:17 PM
The bad: Most upgrades are hidden under the hood

What's wrong with C|Net? We all know that upgrading things like the kernel and other core features of the OS are bad. OSes should only focus on improving the interface by adding tons and tons of redundant pop-ups and baloons get in the way of what you're doing. Allowing third party programs to be more powerful and useful is a waste of time.

superbovine
May 2, 2005, 03:57 AM
Then, on that same page, there's this quote "Tiger has been called by some a 'developer's release,'"...umm...the developer's release was called a developer's release. Just like the server release was called a server release and then consumer release was called a consumer release.


I don't see your problem with calling it a "developers release". The author was refering to Core Image and Core Data which were major features that developers can now use. That why some people call it a developer release because it had new important featuresfor developers. You takeing the quote out of context, and probably you don't really understand context. The author even leads in early in article saying "Tiger includes significant overhauls under the hood, debuting a 64-bit architecture to take advantage of more addressable memory space and several core technologies that range from accelerating onscreen graphics to offering new programming interfaces that, if developers take advantage of them, could significantly change how we use computers" which the author explains further in the paragraphs in question.