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jmh1028
Oct 2, 2011, 01:22 PM
So my friend's 1-week-old Pro got stolen from his car and now it's gotten me all worried about my MBA.

I did some research and found the following software:

1) Prey (free & article in LifeHacker):

http://lifehacker.com/5643460/how-to-track-and-potentially-recover-your-stolen-laptop-or-android-with-prey

2) Orbicule (seen in search threads but costs $40+; would it be worth the money when compared to Prey or other software?)

http://www.orbicule.com/undercover/mac/index.html


Any other software out there? Anyone that uses these (or others) tell me about their experience?

Thank you



Bob Coxner
Oct 2, 2011, 01:51 PM
I don't have any personal experience with it but Lojack seems to get good reviews.

http://www.absolute.com/en/lojackforlaptops/home.aspx

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387275,00.asp review

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387748,00.asp other software that will do the same

http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_18967507?nclick_check=1 news story about Lojack

munkery
Oct 2, 2011, 02:12 PM
Prey is good.

http://preyproject.com/

Starting with 10.7.2, which should be released in a few days, OS X is tentatively expected to include this type of feature by default.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20087841-248/find-my-mac-tracking-tool-crops-up-on-icloud.com/

TheRealDamager
Oct 2, 2011, 02:37 PM
Another vote for Prey - good and cheap (or free).

ZipZap
Oct 2, 2011, 04:11 PM
Without BIOS persistence, I would say these are worthless as a reformat or change of the harddrive removes it.

Does anyone feel otherwise?

munkery
Oct 2, 2011, 04:17 PM
Without BIOS persistence, I would say these are worthless as a reformat or change of the harddrive removes it.

Does anyone feel otherwise?

This is most likely true. Albeit, that depends on how "Find my Mac" works.

I doubt even "Find my Mac" will be useful if the drive is erased or modified.

Would be surprised if it did.

GekkePrutser
Oct 2, 2011, 04:29 PM
The problem with these apps in combination with Lion is that it means you have to leave your harddrive unencrypted. Because the way FileVault2 works in Lion, it encrypts the whole disk. And this software relies on the thief actually booting into the OS and using it. They can't do that if it's encrypted because the password has to be entered before booting.

Under Snow Leopard FileVault (1) encrypted only a user's home directory so it was possible to make a guest account and leaving it unencrypted and passwordless, so the thief could use the internet and the software could call home, while still protecting your data from the thief by encrypting your personal home directory.

So now with Lion it becomes a trade-off: Protect your data well or have a chance at recovering the laptop when stolen (only under certain circumstances). Personally I'd go for the former, as a precaution against identity theft.

I wonder if Find My Mac has a solution for this (e.g. will it work even before booting). That would really solve this problem.

abz1981
Oct 2, 2011, 04:56 PM
Hi
just looking at this software and it looks ideal for my new MBA. But am just thinking. If anything happened to my MBA, how will this software work, when you have a username and password, that needs to be entered before you can access the desktop etc?

thanks in advance

GekkePrutser
Oct 2, 2011, 05:53 PM
Hi
just looking at this software and it looks ideal for my new MBA. But am just thinking. If anything happened to my MBA, how will this software work, when you have a username and password, that needs to be entered before you can access the desktop etc?
thanks in advance

Like I said above, it won't work in that case. The old way used to be to make a guest account to allow internet access by anyone, but you have to forgo FileVault (encryption) now with Lion since it encrypts the whole disk.

munkery
Oct 2, 2011, 07:02 PM
So now with Lion it becomes a trade-off: Protect your data well or have a chance at recovering the laptop when stolen (only under certain circumstances). Personally I'd go for the former, as a precaution against identity theft.

If you protect your security sensitive data with encrypted sparse bundle disk images, then this isn't an issue.

tjb1
Oct 2, 2011, 07:10 PM
Prey Project and a Firmware Password...good to go.

iphone1105
Oct 3, 2011, 11:19 AM
So my friend's 1-week-old Pro got stolen from his car and now it's gotten me all worried about my MBA.


Thank you

My advice, don't leave your $1000 electronics just sitting out like your friend, and you shouldn't have to worry about it being lost or stolen.