Starcraft: How do I kill off Protoss Arbiters?

[Poff]

These units are a pain in the ass, always freezing a lot of my units so that I cannot use them. With Zerg it is easy to finish them off, using Scourge. How do I easily finish them off with the other two razes? These units are often responsible for half of my people getting killed.. :(

..three levels left of the protoss campaign. Then it is time for Brood Wars extension. I don't get much time to play games, but hopefully I'll be done before StarCraft: Ghost comes out, so that I can get a cheap GameCube and continue the saga.. :D

[topicolo]

These units are a pain in the ass, always freezing a lot of my units so that I cannot use them. With Zerg it is easy to finish them off, using Scourge. How do I easily finish them off with the other two razes? These units are often responsible for half of my people getting killed.. :(

..three levels left of the protoss campaign. Then it is time for Brood Wars extension. I don't get much time to play games, but hopefully I'll be done before StarCraft: Ghost comes out, so that I can get a cheap GameCube and continue the saga.. :D

It has been a while, so I may be rusty, but I remember that terrans, with their fully upgraded goliaths, did 20+12 = 32 damage per hit to air units. They are basically walking missile turrets so a couple of those would wipe out an arbiter fast. The only problem is that they can't detect invisibility, but if you hotkey your sensors as 0, you'll have quick access. Ghosts, with the lockdown ability, can do the same things right back to the the arbiters, with the difference being that you can still kick their butts while they're frozen.

With other protoss, lotsa dragoons and scouts would do the trick. The elegant way to handle them, along with practically everything else, is to use the psi storm spell from high templars. land a couple of them on right, and not only will the arbiter blow up, but their cloaked fleet as well. Also don't forget that Archons can hit air units too (although if they get hit by an emp blast, they're toast).

[~Shard~]

Ah, this takes me back to the good old days! Finding the Arbiters to be a pain in the ass? Do you know how many people I made feel that exact same way on Battle.net countless times over and over? ;) One of my favorite tactics was to have about 4 Arbiters defending, 4 attacking - if a huge force attacked me, I'd just perpetually freeze them - if a huge defense force was sitting in an enemy base, same thing - perpetually freeze them - and then recall a fleet of carriers/corsairs/archons into the heart of their base - annoying AND effective! Yes, the Toss were my race of choice... :cool:

Best ways to counter them?

Zerg: mass hydra, muta or dev; def plague; scourge; queen (slow it down, remove cloak)
Terran: goliaths (portable missile turrets); stimped M&M; cloaked wraiths; sci EMP; ghost lockdown
Protoss: HT psi storm (excellent defense force!); mass goons; carriers; mass corsairs; dark archon feedback/mind control; arbiters ;)

In general though, if you let a Toss player tech up to Arbiters that's going to make things awfully difficult for ya. Best to do an upgraded lot/goon rush at the beginning to cripple/destroy him; ling/hydra rush; M&M + siege push before it gets too late. :cool:

[Poff]

Thanks for answering.

I had a problem with these on protoss campaign level 7 I think. Since I didn't have the same technology advancement opportunities they had. I'll keep your advices in mind. One thing I learned, tho, was to keep my forces scattered. Ie attack with 8 small armies instead of 2-3 large ones. That way only some soldiers would freeze. Oh and of course to have an observer with me at all times, so that the opponents forces could not run.

And when I upgraded the scout speed, it was easier to kill the Arbiters, but they often froze me trying to kill them.. :( The templar-idea was good. I'll try that.

[asphalt-proof]

It amazes me that this game still gets so much play. I pull it out every year to and run throught the campaigns. Never went on Battlenet though with it. Just not that good. Good to hear its still out there.
BTW: How long has Starcraft: Ghost been in the works? I seem to remember looking at concept drawings and such as long as 4 years ago.

[Poff]

It's really the only game of it's kind. C&C and all those had very different settings. Dune had the space-setting, but people forgot about it with the launch of C&C. I haven't played much on battle net either, but mostly because I don't see the big fun in it when you're not in the same room as the one who is kicking your butt. To each their own.

Ghost has been in the works for years. They have yet to announce a release-date, but I guess it's nearing. (If not they will have a lot of work reorganizing everything for the next generation of consoles.)

Work on it has at least come far enough to provide some gameplay videos on blizzard.com and nintendo.com

[~Shard~]

Thanks for answering.

I had a problem with these on protoss campaign level 7 I think. Since I didn't have the same technology advancement opportunities they had. I'll keep your advices in mind. One thing I learned, tho, was to keep my forces scattered. Ie attack with 8 small armies instead of 2-3 large ones. That way only some soldiers would freeze. Oh and of course to have an observer with me at all times, so that the opponents forces could not run.

And when I upgraded the scout speed, it was easier to kill the Arbiters, but they often froze me trying to kill them.. :( The templar-idea was good. I'll try that.

No problem, glad to help. I always found it better to take a "sacrificial" group of 3 or 4 ship out front, knowing they would get statis field-ed (usually would pick damaged ships to begin with) and then have a trialing fleet behind to deal with the arbiter(s) - that, or massive ground forces/HTs. As Terran, sci vessels work as excellent scouts due to their range and the EMP, rendering the arbiters useless. Beter than that though is using DA feedback - destroys the aribter in one shot, instantly. :cool:

[~Shard~]

It amazes me that this game still gets so much play. I pull it out every year to and run throught the campaigns. Never went on Battlenet though with it. Just not that good. Good to hear its still out there.
BTW: How long has Starcraft: Ghost been in the works? I seem to remember looking at concept drawings and such as long as 4 years ago.

What can I say, it's one of my favorite all-time games - a true classic. And a good example that you don't need mind-blowing 3D graphics to make a game good - gameplay and story are paramount, and Blizzard got it right. Hmm, maybe I'll fire it up again, it's been too long...

Ghost has been in the works for a long time, but what else is new with Blizzard? ;) Remember how long it took Diablo 2 to be released? Yikes...

Ghost will be good to play - something different - but Starcraft 2 is the one I'm looking forward to the most. :cool:

[audiovox]

sorry, newbie question.

mac runs starcraft? or is there a separate mac version for it?

[~Shard~]

sorry, newbie question.

mac runs starcraft? or is there a separate mac version for it?

Yep - Blizzard pumped out a PC and Mac version. So pick up a copy and enjoy!!!

[audiovox]

Yep - Blizzard pumped out a PC and Mac version. So pick up a copy and enjoy!!!

brilliant :D

[ChrisBrightwell]

FYI -- If you have a Windows version of the StarCraft CD, the key will work on the hybrid discs. Same for Brood War.

[~Shard~]

FYI -- If you have a Windows version of the StarCraft CD, the key will work on the hybrid discs. Same for Brood War.

Yes, I can attest to that as well - played the original SC on my PC and BW on both my PC and a Mac.

Hmm, just remembering back to how challenging those last few Zerg missions were in BW. Took me a while to unlock the secret Zeratul level, and the last mission was just a big evil deathtrap... yet so enjoyable... :cool:

[t0ast]

If there is ONE game you should have on your desktop, that's Starcraft.

Give me a shout on AIM if you ever want a game... I can't remember having refused a game in SC..:D

[~Shard~]

If there is ONE game you should have on your desktop, that's Starcraft.

Give me a shout on AIM if you ever want a game... I can't remember having refused a game in SC..:D

I might take you up on that sometime - but first I'll have to dig out my discs and reinstall it. It has been a while... :cool:

[t0ast]

"You want a piece of me, boy?" :D

[topgunn]

My problem is I bought starcraft before the CD's were hybrid. I only have PC copies but I want to play on my Powermac. Blizzard wants $15 to get replacement CD's but I can go and get the battle chest for $20 or less. Hmm...

[Poff]

My problem is I bought starcraft before the CD's were hybrid. I only have PC copies but I want to play on my Powermac. Blizzard wants $15 to get replacement CD's but I can go and get the battle chest for $20 or less. Hmm...

Starcraft AND broodward is £8 at play.com, including shipping worldwide afaik. That's too good to miss..

[~Shard~]

Starcraft AND broodward is £8 at play.com, including shipping worldwide afaik. That's too good to miss..

Wasn't aware of that offer - maybe I'll have to buy another copy... ;)

[~Shard~]

"You want a piece of me, boy?" :D

"Direct my wrath."

[Rocksaurus]

You should be able to pick up SC and BW in a bargain bin somewhere for 10 bucks, the game is like 7 years old, after all. I still play regularly, myself. I just have yet to find a game I like better. If you're playing against the computer just send a small army or two of scouts at the arbiter so he'll stasis field them and waste his energy, then send a big army of scouts at him. The computer is easily fooled.

[t0ast]

"Direct my wrath."
You must be _deep_ into toss if you can tell that quote by memory.


"Your taunts are unadvised, Templar."
(Yes, I've spent to much time on SC trivias....:D)

[Mechcozmo]

These units are a pain in the ass, always freezing a lot of my units so that I cannot use them. With Zerg it is easy to finish them off, using Scourge. How do I easily finish them off with the other two razes? These units are often responsible for half of my people getting killed.. :(

..three levels left of the protoss campaign. Then it is time for Brood Wars extension. I don't get much time to play games, but hopefully I'll be done before StarCraft: Ghost comes out, so that I can get a cheap GameCube and continue the saga.. :D


As Terran I have missile turrets around my base, so they can't get close and then warp in units. Or for mobility, a single Science Vessel that uses Active Matrix on itself+12 Goliths+2 Ghosts

The Science Vessel detects and can also irradiate-- great against Zurg as well as buried units/mines.
The 12 Goliths do a great deal of damage against ground units as well as air units, but you have to upgrade their range (in BW). Upgrade them, too.

And the Ghosts can use Lockdown to keep stuff in position as you blown them to shreds. 2 Ghosts=more lockdowns at the same time.

Protoss, just mass Carriers and (upgraded) Observers. They work no matter what.

[Poff]

thanks for all the replies. I've started reading through the starcraft compendium om battle.net aswell. ( www.battle.net/scc ) Good reading.

One level left of the standard campaign. I have yet to do brood-wars. This is kind of fun! :D

[~Shard~]

You must be _deep_ into toss if you can tell that quote by memory.


"Your taunts are unadvised, Templar."
(Yes, I've spent to much time on SC trivias....:D)

Heh heh - yep. ;) The Toss are my race of choice. :cool:

"Your will, Executor?"
"It is a good day to die!"

[~Shard~]

thanks for all the replies. I've started reading through the starcraft compendium om battle.net aswell. ( www.battle.net/scc ) Good reading.

One level left of the standard campaign. I have yet to do brood-wars. This is kind of fun! :D

I enjoyed Brood War even more than the original - the story seemed to eclipse its predecessor, which is saying a lot. With all the new units, you may need some more advice so, well, you know who to come to! Just wait til you experience the fun of Dark Archons (most crippling unit in the entire game if used properly) and Corsairs (more powerful than people think). :cool:

[Rocksaurus]

thanks for all the replies. I've started reading through the starcraft compendium om battle.net aswell. ( www.battle.net/scc ) Good reading.

One level left of the standard campaign. I have yet to do brood-wars. This is kind of fun! :D

Have you tried playing online yet? That's where I got (and still am for the most part) addicted to Starcraft. The multiplayer is a lot of fun, and you can play "use map settings" games where people make their own scenarios that are also lots of fun. I highly recommend you give battle.net a try.

[eXan]

"Direct my wrath."

"Battlecruiser operational!" I love 12 of BCruisers taking out enemies + 4 waiting at the base to replace damaged ones :D

[eXan]

Ghost will be good to play - something different - but Starcraft 2 is the one I'm looking forward to the most. :cool:

Me too! :D

[~Shard~]

Have you tried playing online yet? That's where I got (and still am for the most part) addicted to Starcraft. The multiplayer is a lot of fun, and you can play "use map settings" games where people make their own scenarios that are also lots of fun. I highly recommend you give battle.net a try.

Yep, battle.net rocks. Ah, the many hours I spent online... Good times... :cool: Although I always preferred the "pure" maps to the "unlimited everything" maps - those were always a little silly. Mind you, the carnage and epic battles were second to none. And yes, the scenarios were great too.

[Mechcozmo]

"I am ready to drop the hammer and dispense some indiscriminate justice!"

I love Siege Tanks!

(Keep clicking on any unit for a special message from them. Try it with animals. Great fun!)

[Poff]

Have you tried playing online yet? That's where I got (and still am for the most part) addicted to Starcraft. The multiplayer is a lot of fun, and you can play "use map settings" games where people make their own scenarios that are also lots of fun. I highly recommend you give battle.net a try.

I actually tried battlenet right now. Thus I have one question; when you join a game, you sometimes se green, yellow or red "bars" to the right of the players. (colours change according to the amount of bars) Is this an indication of lag?

[eXan]

I actually tried battlenet right now. Thus I have one question; when you join a game, you sometimes se green, yellow or red "bars" to the right of the players. (colours change according to the amount of bars) Is this an indication of lag?

When this indicator turns red, the connection is very slow. I didnt play on battle.net though... I know this from other games.

[~Shard~]

I actually tried battlenet right now. Thus I have one question; when you join a game, you sometimes se green, yellow or red "bars" to the right of the players. (colours change according to the amount of bars) Is this an indication of lag?

Yes, you are correct - best if you only play with people with fast connections - unless the person with the slow connection happens to be you. ;)

Right at the very start of each MP game you'll want to ensure your chatting is set up correctly, so only the proper people ca see your messages, and also you'll want to check your latency setting and make sure it is set to the lowest level possible.

[Poff]

Yes, you are correct - best if you only play with people with fast connections - unless the person with the slow connection happens to be you. ;)

Right at the very start of each MP game you'll want to ensure your chatting is set up correctly, so only the proper people ca see your messages, and also you'll want to check your latency setting and make sure it is set to the lowest level possible.

Hmm.. how does the latency setting affect things? number of updates on what the others are doing? I'm truly getting my ass kicked on b-net, even with noobs. Doing everything fast is hard.. :eek:

[~Shard~]

Hmm.. how does the latency setting affect things? number of updates on what the others are doing? I'm truly getting my ass kicked on b-net, even with noobs. Doing everything fast is hard.. :eek:

Latency is a good thing, I guess, if you have a slower connection, but if your connection is fast enough to handle everything real-time (so to speak) then you should lower the setting to zero - otherwise, why unnecessarily introduce latency into your game and slow things down if you don't need to?

And yeah, you learn a whole new strategy and way of playing when you play on BN. ;) That's where I initially learned how to do an upgraded Lot rush, mass Goon attack, and even a rush to Carriers. Once I had my Arbiters though, it was game over.... :cool:

[Poff]

And yeah, you learn a whole new strategy and way of playing when you play on BN. ;) That's where I initially learned how to do an upgraded Lot rush, mass Goon attack, and even a rush to Carriers. Once I had my Arbiters though, it was game over.... :cool:

Yeah, I just got destroyed by an armada of siege tanks. I guess next time I fight terran, I'll be better off if I get ghosts quite quickly. (both times I've battled terrans they've just built an immense number of siege tanks. There's got to be a better way to kill off enemy siege tanks then building your own siege tanks, and I'm guessing that way could include some ghosts.)

Hmm.. taking a second look at things, I've come to the conclusion that if I had made science vessels to matrix my ghosts while trying to nuke the enemy siege tanks, then I could have been a lot better off..

[~Shard~]

Yeah, I just got destroyed by an armada of siege tanks. I guess next time I fight terran, I'll be better off if I get ghosts quite quickly. (both times I've battled terrans they've just built an immense number of siege tanks. There's got to be a better way to kill off enemy siege tanks then building your own siege tanks, and I'm guessing that way could include some ghosts.)

Yah, they can be a potent force to deal with. As Toss I would always psi storm them with HTs until I had my Carriers/Arbiters, or use Corsairs to D-Web them. (Or just use a DA to mind control one for some fun!), but as Terran, your best tactic is to use lockdown, Wraiths or BCs. For your ghosts, matrix them with the sci vessel...

I never liked playing as the Terrans - too much micro-management. Although they were much more balanced in BW I found, with the M&M combo. Toss were my favorite, and I did enjoy the Zerg as well - a muta/gaurd/dev fleet is practically invincible. :cool:

[Sharewaredemon]

Yes, I can attest to that as well - played the original SC on my PC and BW on both my PC and a Mac.

Hmm, just remembering back to how challenging those last few Zerg missions were in BW. Took me a while to unlock the secret Zeratul level, and the last mission was just a big evil deathtrap... yet so enjoyable... :cool:


I have, to this day, NEVER been able to beat that level.


Hey in terms of use map settings games, did any of you guys play V-Tec Paintball.

That was the greatest game I have ever played in SC ever.

[MacAztec]

I think I am probably one of the top Starcraft players out there. My name on the game is RushLord012, I usually chill in channel 012.

My favorite strategy: SUPER Arbiter Recall. Here's how it works:

In your base, make "groups" men. About 12 goons, 2 reavers to a group. Cluster them up nice and tight. Make about 6 arbiters.

Once you have about 4 or 5 groups, put one arbiter over the middle of every group. Then, send just ONE arbiter sneakily into the enemy base. If he has big defense, use high templars and make fake arbiters to take the hits.

Now comes the fun: Recall your first group, and do the recall right on the arbiter, and select the new arbiter right as you recall it. Move it to a new location in the enemy base (once it is recalled down there), and recall the next arbiter group. Do that until all your groups are down there.

Unstoppable.

[trainguy77]

I have, to this day, NEVER been able to beat that level.


Hey in terms of use map settings games, did any of you guys play V-Tec Paintball.

That was the greatest game I have ever played in SC ever.

yes i play V-TEC paintball i still play it to this day. the use map setting are great!

[xelterran]

I think I am probably one of the top Starcraft players out there. My name on the game is RushLord012, I usually chill in channel 012.

My favorite strategy: SUPER Arbiter Recall. Here's how it works:

In your base, make "groups" men. About 12 goons, 2 reavers to a group. Cluster them up nice and tight. Make about 6 arbiters.

Once you have about 4 or 5 groups, put one arbiter over the middle of every group. Then, send just ONE arbiter sneakily into the enemy base. If he has big defense, use high templars and make fake arbiters to take the hits.

Now comes the fun: Recall your first group, and do the recall right on the arbiter, and select the new arbiter right as you recall it. Move it to a new location in the enemy base (once it is recalled down there), and recall the next arbiter group. Do that until all your groups are down there.

Unstoppable.

sigh,.. have you actualy palyed sc before? I just assume that was a joke.

[MacAztec]

1v1 me? I will show you if I have played or not.

My AIM is jcarian(at)mac(dot)com

My SC is: RushLord012

[Mechcozmo]

sigh,.. have you actualy palyed sc before? I just assume that was a joke.

Actually thats an expanded tactic on Arbiter Recalls.

Works nicely if you have some Reavers in those groups. The Reaver drop just kills things instantly if you did it right.

Just make a bunch of Reavers and Shuttles. Stick the Reavers in the Shuttles and make Hallucinations of them. Send the hallucinations first, then the actual Shuttles.

Boom.

And to kill Siege Tanks, plant tons of spider mines all over. Also, firebats. They run up inside a tank's killzone and kill it from the inside. Its kinda tricky (you loose a lot) but if you have some Medics you can do it. Just be prepared to heal and replace them...

[Mechcozmo]

I actually tried battlenet right now. Thus I have one question; when you join a game, you sometimes se green, yellow or red "bars" to the right of the players. (colours change according to the amount of bars) Is this an indication of lag?

Green-- faster
Red-- slower

Of course, a 56k modem can get you a yellow bar... :rolleyes: :p

[Poff]

Green-- faster
Red-- slower

Of course, a 56k modem can get you a yellow bar... :rolleyes: :p

I've got broadband but I live in Norway - log on to the european server. Get a lot of games with 1 green bar, yet I have yet to be on a game with more than 2 players where it doesn't lag a lot. Even if I only have 1-2 bars on the opponents. Makes me wonder if it's me or someone else.. :/

[~Shard~]

I have, to this day, NEVER been able to beat that level.


Yeah, it took me quite a few tries as well - and a bit of luck.

[~Shard~]

I think I am probably one of the top Starcraft players out there.

Humility is a virtue. No one likes an arrogant player. :cool:

There are many good players out there, and there will always be someone better than you, just keep that in mind. ;)

[gekko513]

Hey, cool to see others playing Starcraft. I just started playing the Starcraft campaigns last thursday. The game sure keeps its popularity despite being ancient.

[t0ast]

<snip>
In your base, make "groups" men. About 12 goons, 2 reavers to a group. Cluster them up nice and tight. Make about 6 arbiters.

Once you have about 4 or 5 groups, put one arbiter over the middle of every group.
<snip>

I think *someone* is playing High-money maps.. Try to play The Lost Temple.:cool:

Here's a decent LT match: SlayerS_'Boxer' vs Didi (http://www.yaoyuan.com/download.php?action=soft&id=10242).
For more: Team Liquid (http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/) or GosuGamers (http://www.gosugamers.net/replays.php).

[~Shard~]

Hey, cool to see others playing Starcraft. I just started playing the Starcraft campaigns last thursday. The game sure keeps its popularity despite being ancient.

Haha - I don't know if I'd go so far to call the game ancient - it was originally released in 1998, that's only 7 years ago. How would you classify other favorite games of mine then like Starflight, Wasteland and Autoduel? (Not even mentioning my favorite NES and Atari games...) :cool:

[~Shard~]

I think *someone* is playing High-money maps.. Try to play The Lost Temple.:cool:

My thoughts exactly - the BGH and other high-money maps have a completely different strategy and gameplay associated with them. Although I played a lot of those too, and liked them for certain reasons, I did prefer the "non-infinite resource" maps for a real challenge and to really engage in a game of skill with someone else. A lot of basic skill and strategy is lacking from the high-money maps when you can continually build mass everything. What truly separates a good player from the crowd is how well they can play on a "real" map, and those are the ones I found to be the most challenging and rewarding, and where I met the most skilled players. :cool:

Don't get me wrong, it takes skill to play the BGH type maps as well - speed and efficiency are paramount - but it's just a different type of skill. And with unlimited resources, it ultimately makes the players a lot less disciplined.

[Rocksaurus]

yes i play V-TEC paintball i still play it to this day. the use map setting are great!

AHHH!!! You play v-tec!? Oh MAN! Me too! My b.net name is the same as this one (Rocksaurus) seriously message me sometime, add me to your friends list - it's so hard to get good v-tec players! Honestly v-tec is the best UMS out there, I find it a lot more entertaining than first person shooters even. Seriously message me if you see me on.

[Ja Di ksw]

Ah SC, you were a good game, now put aside for my wc3 :(. I remember the days when my friend and I would play games 3v3 or 4v4, and hope that our partner sucked (or purposely didn't help him) so it could be us vs 4. And then win. Yes, we played it way too much. Now I bet a newbie could put me to shame.

[~Shard~]

Ah SC, you were a good game, now put aside for my wc3 :(. I remember the days when my friend and I would play games 3v3 or 4v4, and hope that our partner sucked (or purposely didn't help him) so it could be us vs 4. And then win. Yes, we played it way too much. Now I bet a newbie could put me to shame.

I betcha it wouldn't take you long to get back up to speed. Just like riding a bike... ;) :cool:

[chaosbunny]

What can I say, it's one of my favorite all-time games - a true classic. And a good example that you don't need mind-blowing 3D graphics to make a game good - gameplay and story are paramount, and Blizzard got it right. Hmm, maybe I'll fire it up again, it's been too long...

Ghost has been in the works for a long time, but what else is new with Blizzard? ;) Remember how long it took Diablo 2 to be released? Yikes...

Ghost will be good to play - something different - but Starcraft 2 is the one I'm looking forward to the most. :cool:

You know what would just rock: "World of Starcraft"

[eXan]

You know what would just rock: "World of Starcraft"

Yeah, thats right! :D

[gekko513]

Haha - I don't know if I'd go so far to call the game ancient - it was originally released in 1998, that's only 7 years ago. How would you classify other favorite games of mine then like Starflight, Wasteland and Autoduel? (Not even mentioning my favorite NES and Atari games...) :cool:
prehistoric :p

[efoto]

You know what would just rock: "World of Starcraft"

Amazing, potential for "Best Game EVAR!" award. If it were just like WoW except with all of the Starcraft units, my sole purpose in life would be to work only to pay the fees and bills required to keep the game playing.

Awesome idea, someone go, start developing now!

[Sharewaredemon]

AHHH!!! You play v-tec!? Oh MAN! Me too! My b.net name is the same as this one (Rocksaurus) seriously message me sometime, add me to your friends list - it's so hard to get good v-tec players! Honestly v-tec is the best UMS out there, I find it a lot more entertaining than first person shooters even. Seriously message me if you see me on.


I started playing SC again the other day just to play V-Tec, but I haven't seen a game yet. I'm gonna be on the lookout for you next time I go on Bnet.

[~Shard~]

Yeah, thats right! :D

World of Starcraft... hmm, if that came into being I could kiss my free time goodbye. Maybe they'll do something like that after Starcraft 2. I still fear that will be a couple years off though at least... :(

[~Shard~]

prehistoric :p

Then call me a dinosaur. :cool:

And if a person is too young to remember or to have played those games, then they should be envious of people like me - and they should feel bad that they've missed out on some of the best games ever made - because they have. :p

[Ja Di ksw]

You know what would just rock: "World of Starcraft"

That game would be great. My only fear is, if they started it now, based on how long its taking them to release Starcraft: Ghost, I would be dead from old age before WoS came out.

[~Shard~]

That game would be great. My only fear is, if they started it now, based on how long its taking them to release Starcraft: Ghost, I would be dead from old age before WoS came out.

Yep -that's my only real complaint with Blizzard -they seem to take so bloody long to release things!

[Poff]

Yep -that's my only real complaint with Blizzard -they seem to take so bloody long to release things!

Yes, but the quality... :D

And btw, WOS would rock! That, or SC2, would actually be a reason for me to upgrade to a new mac.

Edit: can I ask what is special about v-tec? I tried to google for it without any luck..

[~Shard~]

Yes, but the quality... :D

And btw, WOS would rock! That, or SC2, would actually be a reason for me to upgrade to a new mac.

Edit: can I ask what is special about v-tec? I tried to google for it without any luck..

Hey, no complaints whatsoever on the quality!

[Rocksaurus]

You know what would just rock: "World of Starcraft"

Screw that. How about Starcraft 2?

[Rocksaurus]

I started playing SC again the other day just to play V-Tec, but I haven't seen a game yet. I'm gonna be on the lookout for you next time I go on Bnet.
Awesome...
I'm pretty busy the next two weeks, but I find time to take study breaks at night and play Starcraft. Again, don't hesitate to message me.

[~Shard~]

Screw that. How about Starcraft 2?

If I had to pick between WoS and SC2, I'd definitely pick SC2 - I need closure on the whole Duran/Hybrid/X'el Naga storyline. God I hope Blizzard starts work on that soon - they better not roll out Diablo III first... ;)

[BrianKonarsMac]

side note: anyone waiting on Starcraft Ghost will be waiting forever. they basically killed development mid way through, fired Nihilistic, hired a new developer, and are starting over. it won't be for this generation of consoles, and won't be for the first or second round of games for the next gen either.

[topicolo]

One other way to handle siege tanks as zerg is to amass zerglings with the burrowing upgrade and make them dig into the ground outside of the range of your subterranian tentacles. When the siege tanks come in, pop them up and they'll be right next to the tanks, fully able to whoop their butts. Same thing works for the dark templar as the 'toss.

[~Shard~]

side note: anyone waiting on Starcraft Ghost will be waiting forever. they basically killed development mid way through, fired Nihilistic, hired a new developer, and are starting over. it won't be for this generation of consoles, and won't be for the first or second round of games for the next gen either.

Do you have a link to the press release stating this latest delay? The only delay I knew of was Blizzard's from last June, when they said it wouldn't be released until "sometime in 2005". Amazon currently still lists a ship date of September 15, 2005. Where did you get this latest delay info from?

[efoto]

I read earlier in the thread that if you have non-hybrid discs that the keys will still function properly if you do find/borrow hybrid discs to install from. Assuming this is indeed true, does anyone know if there is a site that hosts the disc images for download?

I have the original (for win) discs for SC and BW at my home but sadly I am away in France on business. I could easily have a friend email me the keys, but I don't have a way to install the game! Anyone know a way to get the Mac images online?

[~Shard~]

I read earlier in the thread that if you have non-hybrid discs that the keys will still function properly if you do find/borrow hybrid discs to install from. Assuming this is indeed true, does anyone know if there is a site that hosts the disc images for download?

I have the original (for win) discs for SC and BW at my home but sadly I am away in France on business. I could easily have a friend email me the keys, but I don't have a way to install the game! Anyone know a way to get the Mac images online?

I don't think we can recommend anything like this as it would be illegal to download something for free that currently isn't for free and still being sold. ;)

I understand your situation, it's quite legitimate, but I think you're out of luck.

[efoto]

I don't think we can recommend anything like this as it would be illegal to download something for free that currently isn't for free and still being sold. ;)

I understand your situation, it's quite legitimate, but I think you're out of luck.

I understand. I didn't mean anything illegal, I wasn't sure if there was a site that hosted the images w/o keys or something, similar to how Steam operates with HL2 where you can download the game. I assumed not since SC is an older game and to my knowledge setups like Steam are relatively new.

It was worth a try. I just got my PB recently and only have a few games for it, and then all the talk of SC just got my heart beating for the game all over again. It has been ages since I played, but it seems like such a good idea to return to it. Thanks anyway.