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MrsNed
Oct 12, 2011, 03:49 PM
As the title says... how many of iClouds features rely on having Lion? I still have snow leopard on my MBP, does that mean I can't use iCloud on my iPad2 iPhone 3GS and (in 4 weeks) my iPhone 4S?!

Help? I'm not the best at technical stuff!!



dpetree
Oct 12, 2011, 03:53 PM
I guess the questions is first, why do you not want to upgrade to Lion? Its a lot faster then SL

iCloud is nice all around and it just syncs stuff back to your mac

GoCubsGo
Oct 12, 2011, 03:54 PM
It seemed to be quite a bit for me. Between iOS 5 and iCloud, I deemed it necessary to buy Lion today.

MrsNed
Oct 12, 2011, 04:01 PM
I have to be honest and say its purely a cost thing, I'm on Maternity leave atm so just can't stretch to it right now :(

chrmjenkins
Oct 12, 2011, 04:03 PM
I have to be honest and say its purely a cost thing, I'm on Maternity leave atm so just can't stretch to it right now :(

You can afford a 200+ phone but not a $30 OS upgrade?

pooryou
Oct 12, 2011, 04:04 PM
I won't be updating to Lion any time soon, because frankly it looks like it sucks hard, and everyone I have talked to who has updated has regretted it.

dpetree
Oct 12, 2011, 04:06 PM
yea, the lion upgrade is $29 bucks

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I won't be updating to Lion any time soon, because frankly it looks like it sucks hard, and everyone I have talked to who has updated has regretted it.


weird

i been on it now for about 5 months and i love it. Its a lot faster then SL and works better. I find that people just do not like change and dont know how to adjust settings start to bash stuff. You can set or change just about every feature in Lion. Hell you can even make it look just like SL if you want

pooryou
Oct 12, 2011, 04:11 PM
I'm fine with change but only when it is for the better.

I don't want auto saving, for one thing. Sounds like a hassle I don't need.

gloss
Oct 12, 2011, 04:16 PM
I <3 Lion.

redscull
Oct 12, 2011, 04:17 PM
I have Snow Leopard on an older MBP and Lion that came installed on my new 2011 mini. I have nothing whatsoever against Lion, but at the same time, not a single thing about it compells me to pay to upgrade my MBP to it. To tell you the truth, aside from Launchpad, I don't notice that Lion even is different from Snow Leopard in my day-to-day usage of it. It's just completely underwhelming overall.

The fact that Lion's required for iCloud is really the only thing making me consider it now on my MBP (I sync my iPhone and iPad with my laptop, not my mini). And to that end, it feels like Apple made iCloud Lion-only for no other reason than to encourage more Lion sales.

pooryou
Oct 12, 2011, 04:20 PM
If there was a way to globally disable the auto save thing I would consider it.

MacGurl111
Oct 12, 2011, 04:22 PM
I read a post on here that you have to have Lion in order for it to work with ios5.
Lion is awesome. :)

QuarterSwede
Oct 12, 2011, 04:26 PM
I won't be updating to Lion any time soon, because frankly it looks like it sucks hard, and everyone I have talked to who has updated has regretted it.
10.7 was buggy but 10.7.2 so far is pretty solid. Mission Control is acceptable now that you can organize desktops/fullscreen apps and you can drag files from fullscreen apps. It's a lot better than it used to be.

MrsNed
Oct 12, 2011, 04:40 PM
You can afford a 200+ phone but not a $30 OS upgrade?

Lol yep, my phone is on a business contract so my upgrade will be free. Happy days!

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Plus, I have heard lots both good and bad about it, just never been convinced enough to pay out 22. I may have to now tho!

chrmjenkins
Oct 12, 2011, 04:54 PM
Lol yep, my phone is on a business contract so my upgrade will be free. Happy days!

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Plus, I have heard lots both good and bad about it, just never been convinced enough to pay out 22. I may have to now tho!

I missed the part where you are in the UK. That explains it.

mikethebigo
Oct 12, 2011, 04:56 PM
To answer the actual question,

iCloud does not rely on Lion at all. It will work great with your iPhones and iPads independent of what version of OSX you're running. What you won't be able to do is sync things like your contact and calendar information from your iDevices to OSX. But yes, between the iDevices, everything will sync just fine and iCloud will work great.

Diiiiips
Oct 12, 2011, 05:01 PM
Did 10.7.2 get quicker as well? When I installed it on launch day the startup time was a lot slower than when I ran SL on my 2011 MBP.

Apps took a fraction longer to open as well.

So I just went back to SL.

Soundhound
Oct 12, 2011, 06:01 PM
Would I be able to manually sync? My situation is I've got an iMac, MacBook pro, iPad and iPhone. (omg! Ive been absorbed by the Borg!)

I'd like to get iCloud going, and can go to Lion on my MacBook pro, but not on the iMac yet. I use the iMac for music and have a lot of plugins that run in logic that I don't want to update yet, and logic is still unsteady in some areas with Lion.

So could I go to iOS 5 on the iPad and iphone, and Lion on the MacBook pro and use iCloud, while leaving the iMac on Snow Leopard for the next six months or so?

To answer the actual question,

iCloud does not rely on Lion at all. It will work great with your iPhones and iPads independent of what version of OSX you're running. What you won't be able to do is sync things like your contact and calendar information from your iDevices to OSX. But yes, between the iDevices, everything will sync just fine and iCloud will work great.

mikethebigo
Oct 12, 2011, 06:06 PM
Would I be able to manually sync? My situation is I've got an iMac, MacBook pro, iPad and iPhone. (omg! Ive been absorbed by the Borg!)

I'd like to get iCloud going, and can go to Lion on my MacBook pro, but not on the iMac yet. I use the iMac for music and have a lot of plugins that run in logic that I don't want to update yet, and logic is still unsteady in some areas with Lion.

So could I go to iOS 5 on the iPad and iphone, and Lion on the MacBook pro and use iCloud, while leaving the iMac on Snow Leopard for the next six months or so?

Yes. In that case, everything will be synced between the iPad, iPhone, and Macbook Pro just fine. The iMac will function just like it always has, but it won't have your calendars/address book/other stuff synced to it through iCloud.

beerglass007
Oct 12, 2011, 06:10 PM
yea, the lion upgrade is $29 bucks

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weird

i been on it now for about 5 months and i love it. Its a lot faster then SL and works better. I find that people just do not like change and dont know how to adjust settings start to bash stuff. You can set or change just about every feature in Lion. Hell you can even make it look just like SL if you want

Totally agree

Soundhound
Oct 12, 2011, 07:21 PM
Very good news! That'll do the job. Do you know if I'd be able to sync the calendar and address book etc manually on the iMac in that arrangement?

Yes. In that case, everything will be synced between the iPad, iPhone, and Macbook Pro just fine. The iMac will function just like it always has, but it won't have your calendars/address book/other stuff synced to it through iCloud.

mikethebigo
Oct 12, 2011, 07:31 PM
Very good news! That'll do the job. Do you know if I'd be able to sync the calendar and address book etc manually on the iMac in that arrangement?

There are ways to get it done. You can export your contacts into a file and transfer that file over to the iMac. As far as the calendar, I'm not yet sure if you can see it on Snow Leopard, but even if you can't, the contacts, calendar, email, and other stuff is available on www.icloud.com for any computer.

Soundhound
Oct 12, 2011, 09:45 PM
Hmmm. Maybe I'll just forgo keeping the iMac synced till I can move it over to lion. Thanks for all the info!

There are ways to get it done. You can export your contacts into a file and transfer that file over to the iMac. As far as the calendar, I'm not yet sure if you can see it on Snow Leopard, but even if you can't, the contacts, calendar, email, and other stuff is available on www.icloud.com for any computer.

Picman
Oct 12, 2011, 10:31 PM
I believe OSX 10.6.9 (when it happens) will give iCloud capability to SL. Anyone know differently?
Picman

smfinlay
Oct 13, 2011, 07:05 AM
I believe OSX 10.6.9 (when it happens) will give iCloud capability to SL. Anyone know differently?
Picman

That's what was reported (http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/snow-leopard-to-get-icloud-support-in-10-6-9-update/) back in late August. But I don't see why they wouldn't have pushed it out the same time as iCloud and 10.7.2?

sim667
Oct 13, 2011, 07:23 AM
Hang on so if i update my mobile me account to icloud Ill lose all the calendars and contacts off my mac (on snow leopard)?

I am planning on upgrading to lion, but I want to do a new install on a clean hard drive which I havent bought yet.

Can I sync between my ipad and iphone using icloud, then just add my mac pro into the cloud when I update to lion?