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MacRumors
Oct 13, 2011, 04:47 PM
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Apple added a number of new features to the camera in iOS 5, as more and more users drop their point-and-shoot digital cameras in favor of the increasingly powerful cameras built-in to smartphones.

For users looking to take pictures quickly, when the phone is locked, simply press the home button twice -- then press the camera icon that appears to be taken directly to the camera. This works even when the phone is locked with a passcode.

Apple's engineers also added a feature that caused Camera+, a popular camera app, to be banned from the App Store (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/12/27/quick-snap-maps-iphone-volume-buttons-to-camera-shutter-for-now/) for four months. Users of Apple's standard camera application can press the volume-up button to take a snapshot, rather than pressing the shutter button on the touchscreen. This makes the iPhone more like a standard camera, with the shutter release on the top.

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Finally, as a corollary to the volume up shutter release, users can also plug in headphones with headphone controls -- like the headphones that are included with the iPhone -- and use the volume up on the headphones as a remote trigger (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/13/use-your-iphone-headset-as-shutter-release-in-ios-5/) for the camera.

Article Link: iOS 5 Camera: Volume Shutter, Lock Screen, Remote Triggering (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/13/ios-5-camera-volume-shutter-lock-screen-remote-triggering/)



jared52
Oct 13, 2011, 04:51 PM
I wish they could make this work with a bluetooth headset as well. THAT would be useful.

samcraig
Oct 13, 2011, 04:59 PM
I loved this feature in Camera+. I wonder where all the naysayers are now who claimed such a feature would be "confusing" for the general user and were against it. Now that Apple has implemented it - I am SURE it will be hailed by them as "magical."

wordoflife
Oct 13, 2011, 05:15 PM
Is there going to be another article on how we can delete individual calls from the call history too?

charlituna
Oct 13, 2011, 05:17 PM
I loved this feature in Camera+. I wonder where all the naysayers are now who claimed such a feature would be "confusing" for the general user and were against it.

That was never Apple's issue with the feature. It was the fact that it required use of private APIs which is a no no under the developer rules.

supremedesigner
Oct 13, 2011, 05:29 PM
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Finally, as a corollary to the volume up shutter release, users can also plug in headphones with headphone controls -- like the headphones that are included with the iPhone -- and use the volume up on the headphones as a remote trigger (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/13/use-your-iphone-headset-as-shutter-release-in-ios-5/) for the camera.

CIA anyone?

jeff032177
Oct 13, 2011, 05:42 PM
Is there going to be another article on how we can delete individual calls from the call history too?

You can now just swipe any entry to bring up the delete button.

Trius
Oct 13, 2011, 05:44 PM
Oh Snap!

LanPhantom
Oct 13, 2011, 05:45 PM
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Just warn your girlfriends when they go to the bathroom if there is an iPhone propped up on the counter with the headphones going somewhere else. There might be a creeper in the other room taking remote pics of them.

Ubuntu
Oct 13, 2011, 05:45 PM
Finally, as a corollary to the volume up shutter release, users can also plug in headphones with headphone controls -- like the headphones that are included with the iPhone -- and use the volume up on the headphones as a remote trigger (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/13/use-your-iphone-headset-as-shutter-release-in-ios-5/) for the camera.



Is this definitely new? I knew you could do this for videos for quite a while and just presumed you'd be able to do so with the camera as well, so is this definitely new?

EDIT: From the comments in the article it seems that the functionality was only there for videos in iOS4. Nice to have it for photos too, now.

lunarworks
Oct 13, 2011, 06:08 PM
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Just warn your girlfriends when they go to the bathroom if there is an iPhone propped up on the counter with the headphones going somewhere else. There might be a creeper in the other room taking remote pics of them.

As opposed to an iPhone propped up without headphones recording 1080p video?

steven64o
Oct 13, 2011, 06:42 PM
Is it just me... I locked the phone then double click the home button which allows me to press the camera button to access the camera without unlocking the phone. If I try to view my pictures, it says that the iPhone is locked and I must unlock it to view pictures. However, simply pressing the home button allows me to go to the main screen without entering my passcode or anything, and allows me full access to the phone!

mrgreen4242
Oct 13, 2011, 06:50 PM
Is it just me... I locked the phone then double click the home button which allows me to press the camera button to access the camera without unlocking the phone. If I try to view my pictures, it says that the iPhone is locked and I must unlock it to view pictures. However, simply pressing the home button allows me to go to the main screen without entering my passcode or anything, and allows me full access to the phone!

Just out of curiousity, is your device locked with a pin?

bretm
Oct 13, 2011, 06:55 PM
Is it just me... I locked the phone then double click the home button which allows me to press the camera button to access the camera without unlocking the phone. If I try to view my pictures, it says that the iPhone is locked and I must unlock it to view pictures. However, simply pressing the home button allows me to go to the main screen without entering my passcode or anything, and allows me full access to the phone!

Not if you'd normally have to enter your passcode. Try it. In other words, you went to the camera between screen sleep, and iPhone lock. You wouldn't have had to enter your passcode to access your phone. So... it should let you go to your photos, but it doesn't. Probably a bug. But it doesn't allow access to a locked phone.

steven64o
Oct 13, 2011, 06:58 PM
Just out of curiousity, is your device locked with a pin?

Yes... But I figured it out. I had my settings to require passcode after 1 minute. So even though the camera app said that the iPhone was locked, it really isn't within 1 minute of locking the device. If I try after 1 min and press the home button within the camera app while the phone is locked, it brings me back to the lock screen.

samcraig
Oct 13, 2011, 07:07 PM
That was never Apple's issue with the feature. It was the fact that it required use of private APIs which is a no no under the developer rules.

Yes - I'm very well aware of what the issue was with Apple. If you read my post - you'll note that I was commenting on what posters HERE gave as a reason why that button shouldn't be designated as a shutter release.

Nobita
Oct 13, 2011, 07:58 PM
So, is the volume button API public now? It's not fair to 3rd party camera apps if it isn't public.

nagromme
Oct 13, 2011, 08:13 PM
I loved this feature in Camera+. I wonder where all the naysayers are now who claimed such a feature would be "confusing" for the general user and were against it. Now that Apple has implemented it - I am SURE it will be hailed by them as "magical."

The users who said it was a bad idea were right. It shakes the camera as you’re taking the picture! Much better to use the onscreen button, which triggers gently as you lift your finger off the screen. And yes, having the volume button do double duty (or adding more buttons) is indeed a small amount of added confusion. And all those small confusions add up until you have Android :p

The users who wanted the clicky button for familiarity were right too. They wanted it, so that in itself is an advantage if Apple gives it to them. And those who don’t want it won’t use it.

Very few things in life are pure black or pure white. But one thing IS clear from this: a reminder that Apple very often adapts to what its users want. They listen and change and deliver. Constantly. Or they simply evolve where they were going all along. Either way, everyone forgets it instantly and calls them tyrants all over again. :p

So, is the volume button API public now? It's not fair to 3rd party camera apps if it isn't public.

iOS is designed to benefit the user first, and the developer second. As a user, I’m all for having a better phone whether it’s “fair” to certain niches of apps or not. Having volume buttons that sometimes work and sometimes don’t would be a bad extension of this (more or less) simple feature. If anything, though, it would make sense for Apple to allow this ONLY for taking pictures.

And I think they already do to some extent: the picture-talking interface is available to third-party apps to use, so they should be able to inherit this new feature automatically.

JayLenochiniMac
Oct 13, 2011, 08:23 PM
Finally, as a corollary to the volume up shutter release, users can also plug in headphones with headphone controls -- like the headphones that are included with the iPhone -- and use the volume up on the headphones.


So that's how they got so close to the squirrel.

samcraig
Oct 13, 2011, 08:46 PM
The users who said it was a bad idea were right. It shakes the camera as youíre taking the picture! Much better to use the onscreen button, which triggers gently as you lift your finger off the screen. And yes, having the volume button do double duty (or adding more buttons) is indeed a small amount of added confusion. And all those small confusions add up until you have Android :p

The users who wanted the clicky button for familiarity were right too. They wanted it, so that in itself is an advantage if Apple gives it to them. And those who donít want it wonít use it.

Very few things in life are pure black or pure white. But one thing IS clear from this: a reminder that Apple very often adapts to what its users want. They listen and change and deliver. Constantly. Or they simply evolve where they were going all along. Either way, everyone forgets it instantly and calls them tyrants all over again. :p



iOS is designed to benefit the user first, and the developer second. As a user, Iím all for having a better phone whether itís ďfairĒ to certain niches of apps or not. Having volume buttons that sometimes work and sometimes donít would be a bad extension of this (more or less) simple feature. If anything, though, it would make sense for Apple to allow this ONLY for taking pictures.

And I think they already do to some extent: the picture-talking interface is available to third-party apps to use, so they should be able to inherit this new feature automatically.

We can agree to disagree. I don't think it's confusing. I can hold the phone much steadier by using the volume as a trigger.

I do agree that Apple "listens" - but I don't think it's as easy as that. They like to take credit for "innovating" while steamrolling over those that came before them. Sometimes they give credit (IE - Jobs said that they were stepping on the shoulders of Amazon's kindle with iBooks/etc) - and many times they do not - like with this shutter button (which they clearly saw was a wildly popular feature of Camera+ based on the up-in-arms opinions all over the web when it was pulled). In short - they see what apps are WILDLY popular - and often times adopt them into their iOS as if the other apps never existed. Is it good for the user? Sure. Ultimately. It's also, at times, a slap in the face to the developers who made the iPhone what it is today.

Yes. I said it. Apple did a great job with engineering the phone and creating a very good UI. But had it not been for the developers of Apps - the iPhone wouldn't be at all what it is today.

Commodore 64
Oct 13, 2011, 09:08 PM
Still no self-timer? How come?
Well, as Jared52 suggested, if you could use a bluetooth headset as a remote trigger, that would be the best solution:)

Nobita
Oct 13, 2011, 09:12 PM
I just tried with Instagram, it does not take use of the volume button.

I guess it's fair enough that Apple wants to have this feature exclusively at first. This way they can tweak the API until they are really sure that it works and then release it.

Nevertheless I don't this is a particularly complicated API to make public. I understand that some more complicated API like dictionary or Siri may take a while to mature before releasing it. I don't think that's the case in here.

clibinarius
Oct 13, 2011, 09:32 PM
iOS is designed to benefit the user first, and the developer second. As a user, Iím all for having a better phone whether itís ďfairĒ to certain niches of apps or not. Having volume buttons that sometimes work and sometimes donít would be a bad extension of this (more or less) simple feature. If anything, though, it would make sense for Apple to allow this ONLY for taking pictures.

And I think they already do to some extent: the picture-talking interface is available to third-party apps to use, so they should be able to inherit this new feature automatically.

If you don't like it, don't use it.

I'm all for using the buttons as, well, buttons. Imagine how much better Sonic the Hedgehog and other games would be on the iPhone if you could use the buttons to jump and only needed one finger on the screen.

Just a thought. Use your imagination. No need to restrict if its for a purchased app.

Lightey
Oct 13, 2011, 09:51 PM
So, Camera + was holding it wrong, right?

LizKat
Oct 13, 2011, 10:11 PM
So that's how they got so close to the squirrel.

lol good thing we all saw the keynote (or the gallery photo) else we'd kinda wonder about that reference ;)

zeromeus
Oct 13, 2011, 11:45 PM
Still no self-timer? How come?
Well, as Jared52 suggested, if you could use a bluetooth headset as a remote trigger, that would be the best solution:)

Well, if there were a self timer on the iPhone, I would NEVER use it unless I'm all by myself in my own room. Why risk having your $650 - $850 piece of equipment taken by a passerby just because you wanted an automatic picture?

reka
Oct 14, 2011, 01:20 AM
on iPad2 when I press the home button twice on a locked screen, no camera icon appears.
instead music controls (play, skip forward, backward, volume) appears

are there any settings for activating this feature?

mixel
Oct 14, 2011, 02:09 AM
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Ha! That remote trigger thing is great!

Not sure how I'd use it though.

juannacho
Oct 14, 2011, 03:23 AM
Well, if there were a self timer on the iPhone, I would NEVER use it unless I'm all by myself in my own room. Why risk having your $650 - $850 piece of equipment taken by a passerby just because you wanted an automatic picture?

Dunno about that?! That would imply that self timers should only be on really cheapo point & shoots? My D7000 has various timers and remote shooting and it's worth plenty more than an iPhone!

TBR
Oct 14, 2011, 04:26 AM
Well, if there were a self timer on the iPhone, I would NEVER use it unless I'm all by myself in my own room. Why risk having your $650 - $850 piece of equipment taken by a passerby just because you wanted an automatic picture?

If you wanted to make sure that there is absolutely no camera shake, then the timer is a good idea.

NightFox
Oct 14, 2011, 04:45 AM
So, is the volume button API public now? It's not fair to 3rd party camera apps if it isn't public.

But it's no different that any other feature; Apple gets access to all APIs and can bypass them if it wants, devs only get to use the public ones.

navtis
Oct 14, 2011, 04:51 AM
It may not allow access to anything requiring the sim card, but it certainly allows access to everything self-contained, like contacts, photos, reminders, SETTINGS! You name it.

It's a potentially serious bug

Not if you'd normally have to enter your passcode. Try it. In other words, you went to the camera between screen sleep, and iPhone lock. You wouldn't have had to enter your passcode to access your phone. So... it should let you go to your photos, but it doesn't. Probably a bug. But it doesn't allow access to a locked phone.

robertosh
Oct 14, 2011, 04:55 AM
on iPad2 when I press the home button twice on a locked screen, no camera icon appears.
instead music controls (play, skip forward, backward, volume) appears

are there any settings for activating this feature?

Same on a ipod touch 4G. I think that it is another "only iPhone" non sense feature.

atari1356
Oct 14, 2011, 06:49 AM
I just tried with Instagram, it does not take use of the volume button.

I guess it's fair enough that Apple wants to have this feature exclusively at first. This way they can tweak the API until they are really sure that it works and then release it.

Nevertheless I don't this is a particularly complicated API to make public. I understand that some more complicated API like dictionary or Siri may take a while to mature before releasing it. I don't think that's the case in here.

The feature isn't exclusive to Apple's Camera app. It's part of the API now. If the developer uses the standard UIImagePickerController, the volume button takes a photo.

Some apps like "ShakeItPhoto" now also have volume button support under iOS 5, but I'd guess it just got the feature "automatically" since it's using an unmodified UIImagePickerController.

I'm not sure how Instagram was built, but it may not be using the standard UIImagePickerController.

wonkothesane258
Oct 14, 2011, 07:33 AM
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Isn't taking pictures supported by Siri?

robertosh
Oct 14, 2011, 07:56 AM
Same on a ipod touch 4G. I think that it is another "only iPhone" non sense feature.

I was wrong, it works with double click on home button.

milo
Oct 14, 2011, 08:58 AM
So why isn't this implemented on the iPad 2? Just that difference is causing a lot of confusion.

Not that it matters much since the iPad camera is so lousy.

Fran239
Oct 14, 2011, 09:06 AM
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Everytime I use the camera from the unlock screen then press the home button it takes me into my phone without requiring the password. Is there a way to fix this?

dwman
Oct 14, 2011, 09:07 AM
Not sure if this has been discovered yet, but when you swipe right from the camera app after launching it from the lock screen, you also get the "phone is locked" message.

Hornet9988
Oct 14, 2011, 02:25 PM
Has anyone tested to see if the volume up on a bluetooth headset would work?

mhhamburger
Oct 14, 2011, 06:46 PM
Thank you for this post and clear instructions. I've been searching through the settings tab on my iphone 4 running iOS 5 without success. I appreciate your posts!