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El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 02:28 PM
Some of my iMessage messages take 30+ seconds just to send and I'm not sure why. At first I thought it way maybe b/c my data connection was bad. But I have the same issue at time on a very strong Wifi connection. This also never happens when using third party messengers like Whatsapp. So what gives with iMessage? I should also mention that I had the same issue on my iPhone 4 w/ iOS 5 installed so I know it's not an issue with my iPhone 4S.



jgalan14
Oct 19, 2011, 02:30 PM
No problems here seems after then SMS to me , maybe 2-5 secs

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 02:33 PM
No problems here seems after then SMS to me , maybe 2-5 secs

MOST of the time this is the case for me as well. But there are still a BUNCH of messages that seem to get held up and don't send for that 30+ second time frame.

Kyotoma
Oct 19, 2011, 02:33 PM
Network latency.

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 02:35 PM
Network latency.

If that were the case then 1. why would it also happen when using wifi and 2. why wouldn't it happen with third party messengers?

Kyotoma
Oct 19, 2011, 02:42 PM
If that were the case then 1. why would it also happen when using wifi and 2. why wouldn't it happen with third party messengers?

iMessage server-side Latency. Sorry.

Jay42
Oct 19, 2011, 02:47 PM
Does the problem persist across different recipients? If so, I would agree that its server side latency. Apple hasn't had any big malfunctions getting the new NC data center up and running, but they're definitely still working out the kinks.

I haven't had that problem, but I have had a few iMessages decide to go as SMS's instead (even on 3g)...:confused:

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 02:49 PM
Does the problem persist across different recipients? If so, I would agree that its server side latency. Apple hasn't had any big malfunctions getting the new NC data center up and running, but they're definitely still working out the kinks.

I haven't had that problem, but I have had a few iMessages decide to go as SMS's instead (even on 3g)...:confused:

Yea it happens quite a bit and the recipient has no effect on it.

diamond.g
Oct 19, 2011, 02:53 PM
Actually if you read Anandtech's iOS 5 review (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4956/apple-ios-5-review/3) you will note that iMessage actually sends over 3G by default even when connected to wifi. The only time that seems to not be the case is when you are sending an attachment or when you have the cell side disabled.

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 03:21 PM
Actually if you read Anandtech's iOS 5 review (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4956/apple-ios-5-review/3) you will note that iMessage actually sends over 3G by default even when connected to wifi. The only time that seems to not be the case is when you are sending an attachment or when you have the cell side disabled.

That's a very interesting article and thanks for linking it. Kind of wish there was a way to have iMessage messages go over Wifi instead of 3G (without turning off my cellular connection) since the congestion on AT&T's towers in Soho during business hours is horrendous. But that definitely explains why my messages are being delayed when in the office. Thanks.

fjrabon
Oct 19, 2011, 04:43 PM
remember that iMessage tells you the message is sent after the other user receives it. Third party apps (and also SMS/MMS) tell you it's sent as soon as it 'leaves' your phone and makes it into 'the cloud', not when it's received on the other end. So it is reflecting delays on going up from your phone, into 'the cloud' and back down plus any delays in the notification signal as well.

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 04:55 PM
remember that iMessage tells you the message is sent after the other user receives it. Third party apps (and also SMS/MMS) tell you it's sent as soon as it 'leaves' your phone and makes it into 'the cloud', not when it's received on the other end. So it is reflecting delays on going up from your phone, into 'the cloud' and back down plus any delays in the notification signal as well.

This isn't true so I'm not sure where you got this info. Once the "sending" bar disappears from the top, the message left your phone. Once the message says "delivered" the other users device actually received the message. If the person has read receipts enabled, it will also say "read" once the other user reads the message.

fjrabon
Oct 19, 2011, 05:03 PM
This isn't true so I'm not sure where you got this info. Once the "sending" bar disappears from the top, the message left your phone. Once the message says "delivered" the other users device actually received the message. If the person has read receipts enabled, it will also say "read" once the other user reads the message.

Hmm, I've never even seen 'sent' so I didn't even know there was a separate status. Mine always goes straight from sending to delivered, which was what i was referring to.

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 05:05 PM
Hmm, I've never even seen 'sent' so I didn't even know there was a separate status. Mine always goes straight from sending to delivered, which was what i was referring to.

It won't say "sent" it will just show "sending" on top with a progress bar. Once that progress bar disappears that means the message was sent. Once you see "delivered" you know it hit the other person's device.

lewys
Oct 19, 2011, 05:09 PM
sending a picture message takes ages for me on my wifi and my two friends wifi. Over a minute

fjrabon
Oct 19, 2011, 05:15 PM
It won't say "sent" it will just show "sending" on top with a progress bar. Once that progress bar disappears that means the message was sent. Once you see "delivered" you know it hit the other person's device.

right. I just thought you meant it was taking forever to say 'delivered' and I was just pointing out that 3rd party and MMS don't let you know that.

El3ctronics
Oct 19, 2011, 05:59 PM
right. I just thought you meant it was taking forever to say 'delivered' and I was just pointing out that 3rd party and MMS don't let you know that.

Gotcha. No, my point was that it was taking forever for the "sending" to complete. Once it does, the "delivered" usually appears fairly quickly. I'm hoping Apple could improve this over time from their end.

acarmich
Nov 9, 2011, 01:59 AM
iMessage is really beginning to extremely annoy me! It baffles me why it doesn't prioritise WIFI over a network connection. I get really ****** coverage at home and need it to do this or my iMessage's will take forever to send! :(

AppleFanatic10
Nov 9, 2011, 02:05 AM
Some of my iMessage messages take 30+ seconds just to send and I'm not sure why. At first I thought it way maybe b/c my data connection was bad. But I have the same issue at time on a very strong Wifi connection. This also never happens when using third party messengers like Whatsapp. So what gives with iMessage? I should also mention that I had the same issue on my iPhone 4 w/ iOS 5 installed so I know it's not an issue with my iPhone 4S.

Mine usually sends instantly...

acarmich
Nov 9, 2011, 02:14 AM
Mine usually sends instantly...

You must have great 3G coverage everywhere. I only get 2G when I'm at home. This is why my iMessages take ages to send.

cole01
Nov 9, 2011, 03:11 AM
Having the same issue.

AIP5
Nov 9, 2011, 03:19 AM
My friend who has a 3GS complains that iMessage literally freezes up his entire phone for a good 2 seconds or so while sending a message, or receiving one. I dunno what the cause may be, but some problem with iMessage send/receive is definitely existent.

AppleFanatic10
Nov 11, 2011, 02:51 AM
You must have great 3G coverage everywhere. I only get 2G when I'm at home. This is why my iMessages take ages to send.

No, I have terrible 3G coverage in Orange County lol.. but it's pretty good everywhere else...;)

Yzord
Nov 11, 2011, 04:45 AM
Some of my iMessage messages take 30+ seconds just to send and I'm not sure why. At first I thought it way maybe b/c my data connection was bad. But I have the same issue at time on a very strong Wifi connection.

Simple, the iMessage dude who has to pass trough the messages has gone to the toilet. Sometimes other things has to be done.

JustLeft
Nov 11, 2011, 06:46 AM
Prioritizing 3G over wifi would explain the issue I had yesterday when texting my wife. I am on AT&T and she is on Verizon (company phone). She was talking on the phone at the time and I tried to send her 3 texts (iMessage), all timed out. Verizon not doing data and voice at the same time over 3G might have been the issue. She has wifi available at her office, but she thought she was having issues with that connection. Perhaps she wasn't and it was prioritizing 3G over the wifi.

Frasern1
Nov 11, 2011, 06:50 AM
Prioritizing 3G over wifi would explain the issue I had yesterday when texting my wife. I am on AT&T and she is on Verizon (company phone). She was talking on the phone at the time and I tried to send her 3 texts (iMessage), all timed out. Verizon not doing data and voice at the same time over 3G might have been the issue. She has wifi available at her office, but she thought she was having issues with that connection. Perhaps she wasn't and it was prioritizing 3G over the wifi.I know for a fact that if I am on a phone call and my friend sends me a iMessage it just gets sent as a text and I get it.

JustLeft
Nov 11, 2011, 07:06 AM
I know for a fact that if I am on a phone call and my friend sends me a iMessage it just gets sent as a text and I get it.

Mine failed a number of times then eventually offered to send it as text. I have had this happen on different occasions with her, it has not automatically sent it as a text message. Maybe there is an option I have set incorrectly?

Frasern1
Nov 11, 2011, 07:15 AM
Mine failed a number of times then eventually offered to send it as text. I have had this happen on different occasions with her, it has not automatically sent it as a text message. Maybe there is an option I have set incorrectly?I haven't seen someone do it while I am on the phone with someone else but for example last night I was talking ot my girlfriend and also texting my friend at the same time. Usually we iMessage but since I was on the phone we were texting, his responses where fast enough that it did not seem like there was any sort of delay.

Do you have it set to send as SMS automatically if iMessage is not available?

JustLeft
Nov 12, 2011, 06:52 AM
Yes, I just checked my settings and Send as SMS when imessage is unavailable is set to ON. Doesn't make sense why the messages were sent. I got the red exclamation point on all messages I sent to her while she was in the phone.

Frasern1
Nov 12, 2011, 07:07 AM
Yes, I just checked my settings and Send as SMS when imessage is unavailable is set to ON. Doesn't make sense why the messages were sent. I got the red exclamation point on all messages I sent to her while she was in the phone.Your right it doesn't make any sense at all...I will test it out later when I see her to see what exactly happens but I am pretty sure they go right through. I will let you know though.

tigres
Nov 12, 2011, 07:26 AM
I had a couple of iMessages to my wife fail the other day for the first time. Had no idea, they were just stuck in sending all day. That eve she asked why I had not replied, and there they were- failed. We are both on AT&T and full bars, as we work in the same city.

Kinda strange. This was the first it had ever happened to my knowledge.

JustLeft
Nov 12, 2011, 07:29 AM
Your right it doesn't make any sense at all...I will test it out later when I see her to see what exactly happens but I am pretty sure they go right through. I will let you know though.

My wife just told me she was having issues with her wifi connection yesterday at work - it was showing connected but she was not able to get any data. Perhaps that was part of this issue - she had a data connection, but unable to get any data. In those cases it might not offer sending a text message.

DuckSoup
Nov 12, 2011, 10:28 AM
Some of my iMessage messages take 30+ seconds just to send and I'm not sure why. .

Happens with me too. Both with my 3Gs and my new 4S. Haven't figured out why (not that I could anyway)

Mike