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May 11, 2005, 02:48 PM
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PlaceofDis
May 11, 2005, 02:51 PM
basically the same things that were said in another article a few days ago... :rolleyes:

puckhead193
May 11, 2005, 02:52 PM
wasn't this a thread already..... (or same topic...)

PlaceofDis
May 11, 2005, 02:58 PM
wasn't this a thread already..... (or same topic...)

same topic, same news, but different article so we can re-hash everything ;)

edit: here is the link:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=125481

yellow
May 11, 2005, 03:20 PM
iPods can make you deaf?

Well.. duh...

nagromme
May 11, 2005, 04:02 PM
So can radios, jackhammers, and volcanoes. And fondue forks can make you blind. Be warned!

poundsmack
May 11, 2005, 04:08 PM
this also just in!!! eating food in large quantities may cause you to gain weight!

shamino
May 11, 2005, 05:03 PM
If the background noise in London Underground trains and tunnels is so loud that the minimum-audible volume of an iPod is dangerous, then isn't the train system itself dangerously loud with or without iPods?

I think the people doing the complaining have a much bigger target than Apple here.

narco
May 11, 2005, 05:10 PM
This just in: iPod makes you deaf, but all other digital audio players are fine. Also, the iTunes Music Store causes erectile disfunction.

I guess it's a good AND a bad thing that the iPod is synonymous with all digital audio players.

Fishes,
narco.

stcanard
May 11, 2005, 05:10 PM
Gee I wish somebody had said that 25 years ago when I bought for first Walkman.

Oh, wait, they did.

James Philp
May 11, 2005, 05:11 PM
If the background noise in London Underground trains and tunnels is so loud that the minimum-audible volume of an iPod is dangerous, then isn't the train system itself dangerously loud with or without iPods?

I think the people doing the complaining have a much bigger target than Apple here.
The short answer: yes. Both the volume and temperature of the Tube (as it is so called) are above dangerous levels.
In the summer, certain areas of the Tube network contravene the regulations even for transporting Cattle! (That's what you get for a system well over 100 years old!)

Dr. Dastardly
May 11, 2005, 08:45 PM
This story shoulda been called "Loud Stuff Makes you Deaf"

dukemeiser
May 11, 2005, 08:50 PM
WHAT?

Flying Llama
May 12, 2005, 12:26 AM
Phh, the CEO of Napster just paid them big bucks for that article... :rolleyes:

:eek:

Panoctopi
May 12, 2005, 01:53 AM
huh... what... speak up, i can't hear you!

840quadra
May 12, 2005, 05:53 AM
I am going after Apple for this, and I THOUGHT they were looking after me! Why else would the corners on the Ipod be round, it is for safety right!! Well now I know they were hiding an ear busting, deafness causing, sound machine inside. This was of course put into place so apple could start selling hearing aids in late 2020!














</ sarcasm >

The iPod won't make you deaf, it is how people use it that could setup situations were you get ear damage. If you have your iPod at full volume 24/7 you may have hearing loss late in life. Just thought I would let everyone know that free advice. :D ;)

Next we will hear that Extra bright LCD display systems in new laptops from Sony and Dell will cause you to go blind! :eek:

Jalexster
May 12, 2005, 06:35 AM
Now this IS old. It claims that Apple has sold 5.6 million iPods and 250 million tracks from iTMS. When in fact it's more like 15+ Million iPods and 400+ million iTMS songs. Old facts.

asif786
May 12, 2005, 06:43 AM
btw, this was *front page news* (i.e. the main headline) yesterday in the evening standard (read mostly by people in central london - cos it's sold on news stands everywhere).

looks like they kicked up a fairly big fuss. i wonder if apple will do something in return, seeing as it wasn't fair for them to single-out ipods..lawsuit?

iLaw
May 13, 2005, 02:29 PM
(read mostly by people in central london - cos it's sold on news stands everywhere).

And because it is only sold in central London.

Anyway I can't be made deaf by iPods because they're all broken in some way.

asif786
May 13, 2005, 04:53 PM
And because it is only sold in central London.

oh really? i never knew that. then again, i guess i've never checked.

edit: ahh, so that's how they get the new editions out to everybody so quickly. i see.

Eniregnat
May 13, 2005, 05:03 PM
I work in a recoding studio. I am very careful about my hearing. This might be why I am always listing at the lowest possible volume. Since I spend a good chunk of the day wearing bulky studio headphones, I opt for sealing ear buds. I know that these create greater relative pressure, but they also block out a good chunk of the environmental noise. Perhaps this is why I love my new noise canceling travel buds. Luckily, my girlfriend has sensitive ears, so when we go to a concert and wear hearing protection, I at least am not alone.

I am glad that somebody pointed this out. I remember the same kind of article being written about Sony Walkmen. My parents didn't let my sister use the players beyond the recomended '4'. I must of listned.

hob
May 13, 2005, 05:43 PM
i worry because I'm always exposed to audio - I'm doing a Music Tech degree... I'd like to get some Shure noise-cancelling earphones, but I don't know how comfortable I'd find them (I don't really like inner-ear phones, but maybe I've just had bad ones till now) - it'd be a shame to blow so much money on such an expensive item...!

The tube is extremely noisy, shouldn't the standard be running an "exposť" on them, instead of apple? If they fixed up the tube so it was quieter, the iPods/Walkmen/100's of other music devices wouldn't have to be turned up so loud - I had to download a 3rd-party app so my ipod was loud enough (not too loud, but the EU-imposed sound levels are just toooooo quiet).

And the other day I was on a south-western train listening to my shuffle at a reasonable volume - some idiot was sitting opposite me brandishing his rubber-encased ipod and matching (rubbish) ear-buds, pumped up SO loud I could hear it over MY music - now THAT's dangerous!

I hope apple sue the Evening Standard, I'll follow it up by suing the local newsstand who let me buy this so called "evening"-standard at a mere 2.30pm! :O :O :O

Eniregnat
May 13, 2005, 06:49 PM
i worry because I'm always exposed to audio - I'm doing a Music Tech degree... I'd like to get some Shure noise-cancelling earphones, but I don't know how comfortable I'd find them (I don't really like inner-ear phones, but maybe I've just had bad ones till now) - it'd be a shame to blow so much money on such an expensive item...!...

Your avatar always reminds me of something from a Chris Cunningham (http://www.director-file.com/cunningham/) video.

I wish I could spring for the expensive Sure (http://www.shure.com/earphones/eseries_comparison.asp) phones. The fact that they are etonic, is really impressive, though with most headphones these days, distortion is small compared to two decades ago.

Good active noise cancellation is really cool. It's is really evident with repetitive droning or hissing noises. When your at a coffee house, switch them on and off while the baristas are frothing milk. Also at airports or on a plane. Amazing! I was a skeptic a only bought a pair (http://shopping.discovery.com/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10000&storeId=10000&langId=-1&productId=55819&partnumber=700716) (not by Sure) because they were on sale as "seconds and returns" at the Discovery Store.

For a good set of ear-plug style headphones (sans active cancellation) I recommend Koss's the Plug or Spark Plug (http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Portable+Stereophones^SPARKPLUG). In expensive (15USD,~8GBP), they have decent range and response (10-20k) though I hear greater depth, and they drop ambient noise levels down by 15-20db (subjective). The soft foam is also nicer than harder materials.

These (http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Clearance^cheesephones) only attaract wing-nuts (ttp://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn2.0?stage=1&word=weirdo) and will raise the ambient noise on the street, in the tube, or at stadiums. Go Packers (http://www.packertime.com/prodindex/cheese/) Note: Most Packers fans are not wing-nuts.

Why ? (http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Accessories^FloatingDevice) Is the woman inflatable?

StarbucksSam
May 13, 2005, 06:57 PM
Everything in moderation. Everything responsibly.

0s and 1s
May 13, 2005, 07:10 PM
My iPod made me blind and raped my uncle!