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MacRumors
Oct 21, 2011, 10:01 AM
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TomTom today announced (http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20111021005600/en/TomTom-App-iPhone-1.9-Optimized-iPad) that it has released new universal versions of its turn-by-turn GPS applications, bringing native iPad compatibility for the first time. TomTom offers over two dozen (http://www.appshopper.com/search/?searchdev=326055452&sort=name&dir=asc) localized GPS apps, which now include an enhanced user interface optimized for the iPad.The TomTom App for iPhone/iPad, version 1.9, features a new map release - a benefit to users of both Apple devices - with updated roads and points of interest.

With this new release, TomTom has made use of the extra iPad screen size. The full-screen display shows both driving view and advanced lane guidance at the same time. Drivers can also switch to driving view with one touch from anywhere within the App, and can access guidance options in a tap.With TomTom's existing apps now being universal, current users of the iPhone version can simply download the latest update and install the app on both iPhone and iPad free of charge.

Article Link: TomTom for iOS Gains iPad Compatibility (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/21/tomtom-for-ios-gains-ipad-compatibility/)



wacky4alanis
Oct 21, 2011, 10:11 AM
Hopefully it fixes the traffic subscription bug as well! I miss having my traffic since upgrading to iOS5.

coder12
Oct 21, 2011, 10:14 AM
Yes! Now we can Airplay/Sharescreen the TomTom app to the 47" tv in my car and call it, "The largest GPS screen in the world"!

notjustjay
Oct 21, 2011, 10:34 AM
Anyone have any thoughts as to how this compares with the Navigon app? I bought the latter based on the "one app for iPad and iPhone" ideal, as no one else had that feature at the time.

RobDee
Oct 21, 2011, 10:40 AM
I have been hungrily looking at TomTom for some time. Now I have my 4S I can't help but be put off by those car kit horror stories. Will they bring out a 4 car kit without the need for an adaptor?

Also, if I have data roaming switched off abroad, will TomTom still work with GPS only?

I should ask TomTom, of course, but I'm interested in your experiences...

shotts56
Oct 21, 2011, 10:53 AM
Also, if I have data roaming switched off abroad, will TomTom still work with GPS only?


Yes, absolutely fine. I've used it when travelling abroad (from the UK to France/Belgium). The traffic updates will only come in if you switch on data roaming obviously, but the GPS is absolutely fine.

RobDee
Oct 21, 2011, 11:03 AM
Yes, absolutely fine. I've used it when travelling abroad (from the UK to France/Belgium). The traffic updates will only come in if you switch on data roaming obviously, but the GPS is absolutely fine.

That's great, thanks!

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I also want to connect my iPhone to my car radio via Bluetooth. Does this mean I will get all sound, including music, podcasts, traffic directions, and calls going through my car system? And talk to it using a wireless mike?

Rufus T Firefly
Oct 21, 2011, 11:07 AM
be careful though, they say that the wifi only iPad will not work without any remote GPS receiver.

*** MORE INFORMATION ***
The TomTom App requires a GPS signal. iPad Wifi + 3G models have an internal GPS. iPad Wifi only models and iPod touch 2nd gen. and higher require an external GPS receiver.

cruisencode
Oct 21, 2011, 11:13 AM
They also included another free map update. :D

I have read that Navigon is beginning to charge for map updates.

Edit: Here is the link to the article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/garmin-demos-upcoming-mobilenavigator-for-ios-and-android-lates/

diegogaja
Oct 21, 2011, 11:14 AM
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Motion X GPS is excellent on the iPad and iPhone. Has all the bells and whistles and is MUCH cheaper.

Krevnik
Oct 21, 2011, 11:15 AM
I have been hungrily looking at TomTom for some time. Now I have my 4S I can't help but be put off by those car kit horror stories. Will they bring out a 4 car kit without the need for an adaptor?

Don't even bother with a car kit on the 4 or the 4S. For two big reasons:


- The advantage in GPS accuracy is small to nonexistent with the car kit. The 4 and 4S have updated GPS chipsets that are comparable. The 3G/3GS definitely benefit from the car kit though.
- The car kit's power supply is only 500mA over the dock connection. With certain brightness settings, you will still drain the battery with the car kit. I power mine with a 1A low-profile car charger. Audio goes over Bluetooth to my car stereo (A2DP).


I've been using Magellan and TomTom on both an AT&T and Verizon iPhone 4. No real problems with GPS lock (other than a driver bug on the Verizon iPhone that got fixed with 5.0 for me). Handles multi-path GPS signal errors in downtown areas relatively well. Not perfect, but about as well as my stand-alone TomTom ever did. Never let me down during road trips either except when traffic was a minute or two out of date and I got caught in rush hour just as it was starting around a metropolitan area I wasn't entirely familiar with.

zapnyc
Oct 21, 2011, 11:21 AM
OK...now that the GPS app tech has evolved...

Somebody smart can easily create an add-on heads-up projection display for our windshields.... sourced out of the Pad/Phone. Even if it requires reflective panel or magic plastic windshield-size decal.

The future has arrived....

stevet
Oct 21, 2011, 11:36 AM
Hopefully it fixes the traffic subscription bug as well! I miss having my traffic since upgrading to iOS5.

I don't think it's been broken, sometimes you need to restore it after upgrading the app or OS. To do that go into:

TomTom Shop->Traffic and then select Restore Purchases

Steve

firestarter
Oct 21, 2011, 11:38 AM
Motion X GPS is excellent on the iPad and iPhone. Has all the bells and whistles and is MUCH cheaper.

Motion X GPS doesn't do routing, so it really isn't that useful for in-car use.

It's a great product, yes - but it's not comparable to an app like Tom Tom.

cruisencode
Oct 21, 2011, 11:47 AM
I don't think it's been broken, sometimes you need to restore it after upgrading the app or OS. To do that go into:

TomTom Shop->Traffic and then select Restore Purchases

Steve

That's exactly what has been broken since the release of iOS5. This update is supposed to fix this. They are even compensating existing users for this issue. Here is the quote from TomTom.

Version 1.9 of the TomTom App for iPhone and iPad is now available in the AppStore. The upgrade will fix any compatibility issues which you may have experienced with HD Traffic or Speed Cameras on iOS 5. We apologise for the inconvenience this has caused, and as compensation, we'll extend your current subscription by 30 days. It may take some time for everyone to get their compensation and we will update you by email once the compensation is done.

wacky4alanis
Oct 21, 2011, 11:58 AM
I don't think it's been broken, sometimes you need to restore it after upgrading the app or OS. To do that go into:

TomTom Shop->Traffic and then select Restore Purchases

Steve

Yep - that's exactly what was broken. I would type in my username and password over and over, and it would never accept it.

RobDee
Oct 21, 2011, 12:00 PM
Don't even bother with a car kit on the 4 or the 4S. For two big reasons:


- The advantage in GPS accuracy is small to nonexistent with the car kit. The 4 and 4S have updated GPS chipsets that are comparable. The 3G/3GS definitely benefit from the car kit though.
- The car kit's power supply is only 500mA over the dock connection. With certain brightness settings, you will still drain the battery with the car kit. I power mine with a 1A low-profile car charger. Audio goes over Bluetooth to my car stereo (A2DP).


I've been using Magellan and TomTom on both an AT&T and Verizon iPhone 4. No real problems with GPS lock (other than a driver bug on the Verizon iPhone that got fixed with 5.0 for me). Handles multi-path GPS signal errors in downtown areas relatively well. Not perfect, but about as well as my stand-alone TomTom ever did. Never let me down during road trips either except when traffic was a minute or two out of date and I got caught in rush hour just as it was starting around a metropolitan area I wasn't entirely familiar with.

Ok, Great stuff. So i just need a basic car kit with charger. Any recommendations?

I also need a wireless mike so I can take calls and talk to Siri.

globality
Oct 21, 2011, 12:02 PM
Motion X GPS doesn't do routing, so it really isn't that useful for in-car use.

It's a great product, yes - but it's not comparable to an app like Tom Tom.

I think the previous poster was talking about Motion X GPS drive. It is same as other navigation software but works in online mode. I think you can now pre-download the map though. Tried it and did not like its route compared with my Garmin standalone GPS

BulletToothTony
Oct 21, 2011, 12:13 PM
I think the previous poster was talking about Motion X GPS drive. It is same as other navigation software but works in online mode. I think you can now pre-download the map though. Tried it and did not like its route compared with my Garmin standalone GPS

I knew i should've bought it when it was $39 $49 seems a bit too much when you can get the whole gps hardware and software for $50, anyone know how to get a $10 credit on that app :D

JRoDDz
Oct 21, 2011, 12:24 PM
Can you connect a Bluetooth GPS receiver to the WiFi iPad?

French River
Oct 21, 2011, 12:31 PM
I've been using Magellan and TomTom on both an AT&T and Verizon iPhone 4. No real problems with GPS lock (other than a driver bug on the Verizon iPhone that got fixed with 5.0 for me).

So that's what happened with the Verizon iPhone 4's GPS issue. For months, GPS was virtually usless on my Verizon iPhone 4. I took it to Apple twice -- the first time they exchanged it, the second time a Genius told me it was because Verizon's 3G network couldn't download data fast enough (wrong, of course). After the 5.0 iOS update, GPS works like it should. Glad I decided not to spring for the TomTom car kit.

I just returned from travels in Switzerland, France and Germany, where I used TomTom GPS on my iPhone 4 extensively (cellular data turned off) in both driving and walking modes. Worked very well.

Alisstar
Oct 21, 2011, 12:31 PM
I have been hungrily looking at TomTom for some time. Now I have my 4S I can't help but be put off by those car kit horror stories. Will they bring out a 4 car kit without the need for an adaptor?

Also, if I have data roaming switched off abroad, will TomTom still work with GPS only?

I should ask TomTom, of course, but I'm interested in your experiences...

I'm not sure what the car kit horror stories are, but I saw this car mount (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XKJ5C4?ie=UTF8&tag=iphspamyl-20&linkCode=shr&camp=213733&creative=393177&creativeASIN=B002XKJ5C4&ref_=sr_1_9&qid=1319216943&sr=8-9) that looks pretty nice. I might just get it for Christmas since it looks fairly attractive for a car mount.

RobDee
Oct 21, 2011, 12:38 PM
I'm not sure what the car kit horror stories are, but I saw this car mount (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XKJ5C4?ie=UTF8&tag=iphspamyl-20&linkCode=shr&camp=213733&creative=393177&creativeASIN=B002XKJ5C4&ref_=sr_1_9&qid=1319216943&sr=8-9) that looks pretty nice. I might just get it for Christmas since it looks fairly attractive for a car mount.

Looks quite nice. I would rather something with a charger though!

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The horror stories relate to the phone mount not initiating Bluetooth (with iPhone 4) to use with the car kit properly.

French River
Oct 21, 2011, 12:54 PM
I use this air vent mount:

http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-IPM129-ST-Removable-Mount-Iphone/dp/B001OMOTAA/ref=sr_1_20?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319219455&sr=1-20

with this:

http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Charger-Vehicle-Power-Adapter/dp/B003TULUI4/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319218934&sr=1-19

and this:

http://www.amazon.com/Charge-Cable-Apple-support-iPhone/dp/B0036BNRGO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319219052&sr=1-2

for power in the car. Nothing fancy, but itís cheap and it works.

I use an air vent mount because Minnesota is one of two states where it's illegal to have anything mounted on the windshield. But actually, I think I prefer not having stuff stuck on the windshield.

RobDee
Oct 21, 2011, 12:59 PM
I use this air vent mount:

http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-IPM129-ST-Removable-Mount-Iphone/dp/B001OMOTAA/ref=sr_1_20?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319219455&sr=1-20

with this:

http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Charger-Vehicle-Power-Adapter/dp/B003TULUI4/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319218934&sr=1-19

and this:

http://www.amazon.com/Charge-Cable-Apple-support-iPhone/dp/B0036BNRGO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319219052&sr=1-2

for power in the car. Nothing fancy, but itís cheap and it works.

I use an air vent mount because Minnesota is one of two states where it's illegal to have anything mounted on the windshield. But actually, I think I prefer not having stuff stuck on the windshield.

I'm looking for something with a built-in charger...

BC2009
Oct 21, 2011, 01:03 PM
Anyone have any thoughts as to how this compares with the Navigon app? I bought the latter based on the "one app for iPad and iPhone" ideal, as no one else had that feature at the time.

- Navigon tends to be first-to-market on major features (including iPad support which came a few months after iPad release)

- Navigon uses NAVTEQ maps (Bing, Yahoo use this as well as many (http://corporate.navteq.com/company_our_customers.htm) others) while TomTom uses (and owns) TeleAtlas maps (Google Maps switched to TeleAtlas after Nokia take over of NAVTEQ). You can read a comparison here (http://www.gpsreview.net/navteq-vs-tele-atlas/). I prefer NAVTEQ personally, but that may be due to poor accuracy in my area by Tele Atlas -- the linked report shows Tele Atlas at about 6% better.

- TomTom started reporting speed information to German police a while back which upset their customers. Not sure about their current policy on this. It told local police where to set speed traps.

- TomTom lets you change the voice used for the text-to-speech guidance.

- Navigon was recently acquired by Garmin, so some things may be changing in the future (including free updates to maps as one use notes below). Typically GPS nav apps are going to periodically ding you for map updates. To date I have not had to pay for a single map update to Navigon (2+ years).

- Both offer live traffic and a host of other features. I personally love the live "lane assistant" on Navigon that animates the arrows into the lane you should be traveling in to make your next turn -- I don't know if TomTom has this feature.

- Navigon does a MUCH better job of interpreting your position when the GPS signal is weak. TomTom requires a stronger signal since the algorithm is not that good (hence the car dock they offered with built-in external GPS receiver)

They also included another free map update. :D

I have read that Navigon is beginning to charge for map updates.

Edit: Here is the link to the article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/garmin-demos-upcoming-mobilenavigator-for-ios-and-android-lates/

As noted above... I bought Navigon when it first came out over 2 years ago. So far I have gotten free map updates at no charge. If this Engadget report is correct, it will be the first map update I have to pay for and it comes at about the 2.5 year mark. I believe that is par for the course for GPS navigation though. TomTom does own Tele Atlas though, so they could offer free map updates to trump Navigon and try to get users to switch. They were so late to the iOS GPS party comparatively that they lost a whole lot of market share and it might be a very smart move for them to offer free map updates for 3 years to get folks to switch over when it comes to re-up on the Navigon maps.

bketchum
Oct 21, 2011, 01:25 PM
Don't even bother with a car kit on the 4 or the 4S. For two big reasons:


- The advantage in GPS accuracy is small to nonexistent with the car kit. The 4 and 4S have updated GPS chipsets that are comparable. The 3G/3GS definitely benefit from the car kit though.
- The car kit's power supply is only 500mA over the dock connection. With certain brightness settings, you will still drain the battery with the car kit. I power mine with a 1A low-profile car charger. Audio goes over Bluetooth to my car stereo (A2DP).


I've been using Magellan and TomTom on both an AT&T and Verizon iPhone 4. No real problems with GPS lock (other than a driver bug on the Verizon iPhone that got fixed with 5.0 for me). Handles multi-path GPS signal errors in downtown areas relatively well. Not perfect, but about as well as my stand-alone TomTom ever did. Never let me down during road trips either except when traffic was a minute or two out of date and I got caught in rush hour just as it was starting around a metropolitan area I wasn't entirely familiar with.

Great post. Thanks for sharing. Very helpful.

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Ok, Great stuff. So i just need a basic car kit with charger. Any recommendations?

I also need a wireless mike so I can take calls and talk to Siri.

I'm pleased with my iTrip DualConnect with the free iTrip Controller app installed.

https://store.griffintechnology.com/itrip-dualconnect

http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/itrip-controller/id326462758?mt=8

weckart
Oct 21, 2011, 02:16 PM
Hopefully it fixes the traffic subscription bug as well! I miss having my traffic since upgrading to iOS5.

Still can't log in to my account. Oh boy. :o

RobDee
Oct 21, 2011, 02:29 PM
Great post. Thanks for sharing. Very helpful.

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I'm pleased with my iTrip DualConnect with the free iTrip Controller app installed.

https://store.griffintechnology.com/itrip-dualconnect

http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/itrip-controller/id326462758?mt=8
That might work if I can't find a mount that does that. What mount do you use?

Basic75
Oct 21, 2011, 03:08 PM
Also, if I have data roaming switched off abroad, will TomTom still work with GPS only?


On occasion I've even used it on my iPod touch without GPS, with my copilot manually scrolling the map display and telling me where to go...

nsayer
Oct 21, 2011, 03:35 PM
I don't think it's been broken, sometimes you need to restore it after upgrading the app or OS. To do that go into:

TomTom Shop->Traffic and then select Restore Purchases

Steve

You must have missed the whole episode.

Those of us who have been using the iOS 5 betas have been unable to restore our purchases for over four months. And that's fine - betas are unsupported, yadda, yadda.

But TomTom was SUPPOSED to be using that time to fix their app so that it would be compatible with iOS 5 on day 1. Instead, not only did they not have a compatible app on day 1, but inquiries to their tech support staff would return inapplicable canned responses. A couple days later when they finally realized what was wrong, they started telling everyone an update would be available "soon."

So they bungled it on just about every level conceivable.

This is not a 99 cent fart-noise app, either. This app costs real money. The fact that it doesn't have real support is inexcusable.

Fossil guy
Oct 21, 2011, 09:32 PM
Wondering if usingTomTom on the iPad on the road will eat up large chunks of data ? Or does it function on its own , so to speak ? The only reason that I ask is that it uses "assisted GPS", right ? So if I put 500 MB on for a weekend trip, it could get eaten up with just with the car ride alone ... ?
Thanks for any info &/or thoughts !
: )

Basic75
Oct 22, 2011, 03:57 AM
Wondering if usingTomTom on the iPad on the road will eat up large chunks of data ? Or does it function on its own , so to speak ? The only reason that I ask is that it uses "assisted GPS", right ? So if I put 500 MB on for a weekend trip, it could get eaten up with just with the car ride alone ... ?
Thanks for any info &/or thoughts !
: )

You have not understood how the application works. It's not like the built-in maps application or Google Earth that download everything you access from the server, it's like a stand-alone GPS unit that contains all the road data and doesn't download anything while working (except for occasional updates), that's why e.g. the "Europe" version weighs in at nearly 2 GB.

sinsin07
Oct 22, 2011, 12:00 PM
Navigation Comparison Chart (dated 2/2011) (http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/iphone-navigation-app-comparison-xr5133.php)

Kissaragi
Oct 22, 2011, 12:29 PM
I wouldn't actually be able to mount an iPad in my car without it either blocking half the windscreen or all of the heating controls and radio.

Clearly the solution is to buy a bigger car!

nagromme
Oct 23, 2011, 12:55 AM
Anyone have any thoughts as to how this compares with the Navigon app? I bought the latter based on the "one app for iPad and iPhone" ideal, as no one else had that feature at the time.

Havenít tried TomTom, but I love the interface/features of Navigon MyRegion!

Bigskygangsta
Oct 23, 2011, 09:34 AM
I've used this app since it was released and it's had mostly interface shortcomings but the core gps functionality was good. But now... with v 1.9 and iPad graphics it's awesome!

Thanks TomTom.

cRuNcHiE
Oct 24, 2011, 07:42 AM
Sygic is cheaper and uses the same maps as tomtom and same if not more features

Smeaton1724
Oct 24, 2011, 10:10 AM
I'll be all over this app when the 7" iPad is released :D (we can but dream)

Wolfpup
Oct 25, 2011, 10:14 AM
Nice! TomTom's program seemed like maybe the best for iOS, but the lack of native iPad support kept me from getting it. I'll probably grab it tonight.

bogdanovits
Oct 27, 2011, 11:45 PM
We are already using an iPad with a car cradle for navigation (sorry TomTom, it's an iGO) and we are enjoying it.
In 2007 I predicted in a mapping conference the death end of small screen GPS and the future of larger one like ebook readers (no iPads at that moment) with colour e-ink. Who's know?

Wolfpup
Oct 28, 2011, 08:32 AM
So dumb question I guess, but does the GPS just work outside, but in your car? It can't really find me in the house.

I'm hoping this does work okay without a data connection...since that's really the whole point for me in buying a product like this (otherwise AOL's Mapquest handles it, or even Google Maps, if you've got a navigator).

Wolfpup
Nov 8, 2011, 04:34 AM
Huh...I came back to this following a link in an email, but now that message is gone?

Anyway figured I'd report back that TomTom for the iPad is pretty great! You have to have airplane mode OFF for it to work...I guess the GPS reciever's shut down? But it's pretty amazing. Not perfect...I had a minor connection point between two roads missing, a destination on the opposite side of the street from where TomTom said, etc., but mostly it was amazing. The voice is clear and loud too.