15inch LCD Discontinued?

[MacRumors]

Spymac claims (http://www.spymac.com/) confirmation that 15" LCD Displays have been discontinued.

First word (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=12530) of this rumor came from this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=12530).

Updates to Apple's LCD line have been expected for some time (LCD Rumors Summary (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020929234735.shtml)), with the initial rumor starting back in December (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2001/12/20011202023546.shtml) -- with rumors of a new 19" LCD to fill out the line after dropping the 15" LCD.

[Arcady]

Great! Now my 15" LCD Studio Display will become a collector's item... right??

:p

[mac15]

and my imac, yehaa

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Arcady
Great! Now my 15" LCD Studio Display will become a collector's item... right??

:p
No, MY 233 Bondi Blue WILL OWN YOU!!!!
320 MB ram, SWWeet graphics. w00t! I have the slowest computer coming here!

[djniche]

could this mean new 17" widescreen and or/ 19" widescreen new flat monitors?

[MrMacMan]

I STILL think 17" is huuge..
so 19" will be overkill. I say keep the 15" cause the prices are way to high anyway.

[gandalf55]

i simply dream of the day i can walk into an Apple Store and walk out with a Cinema Display without paying the price of a used car... or else its PB&J for me for quite some time...

i've been looking on eBay for em - but who the hell would ever, EVER sell one? hehe.

[Shrek]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I STILL think 17" is huuge..
so 19" will be overkill. I say keep the 15" cause the prices are way to high anyway.

NO, DUNDEE HEAD!!! As soon the 15" is gone, the 17" will be the bottom line, which means it's price will drop and a 19" will be about what the 17" is now. :p

Don't you people know that this is how things work in the tech industry! I mean like, duh! :mad:

[Mosco]

I noticed this also when i shopping at compusa.com.

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that was right under the 15inch apple LCD.

[daRAT]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I STILL think 17" is huuge..
so 19" will be overkill. I say keep the 15" cause the prices are way to high anyway.


Moniter size is like ram and cpu speed, more is better :]:D

[Mudbug]

Those who think that 17" is big enough must have never sat in front of, much less worked on, a 19, 21, 23 or larger inch screen. I play on a 21" at home and have dual 21 Cinemas at work, and I still want more.

I'm just not willing to pay for the dual 23's for the time being... but check back in a few months. ProTools 6 is coming out (or is out, I can't remember), and I'll be looking for more screen real estate to put panels.

[blackpeter]

My Monitor Predictions:

- 17" Wide iMacs across the board (w/ no 19" models)
- Discontinue 15" Flat Panels
- Drop 17" Studio's price to match old 15" price
- Introduce 19" Studio Displays

[madamimadam]

The iMac 15" has been removed from the Apple PR (http://www.apple.com/pr) site.

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by gandalf55
i simply dream of the day i can walk into an Apple Store and walk out with a Cinema Display without paying the price of a used car... or else its PB&J for me for quite some time...

i've been looking on eBay for em - but who the hell would ever, EVER sell one? hehe.

I sold mine on eBay here in the UK - got a great price too. I don't miss it TOO much.

[theaz]

I am intrigued that the line has been dropped. Surely there is a market out there for 15" But then, I guess apple knows that whilst i can only speculate...

[groov']

This morning one of the biggest Dutch apple-dealers (MacHouse) announced in a newspaper-ad that it has to clear out 1000 Mac's within 10 days. They list the following models:

- all 15 inch iMac's - so not the 17 inch topmodel (prices: 1219, 1499, 1799 euro)
- the 15 and 22 inch LCD's (619 and 1999 euro)
- 14 inch iBook (1999 euro)
- Powerbook 667 (2349) euro)
- G4 Dual 1Ghz - the old one probably (2299 euro)

Prices will drop further in the next 10 days

Remember: Apple-prices in Europe are much higher than in the States.

Conclusion: 15 inch iMacs and 15 and 22 inch LCDs discontinued

[synergy]

What kind of used car are you buying when comparing price of the LCDs?

Certainly nothing you would have to shovel more money into to get some decent use out of it.

As for 15 or 17 being enough, if you do video or graphics you know this is not the case.

I would love a 19" LCD on a swivel base like the iMacs have to replace the big 19" glass tube monitor on my desk.

[Postal]

It's a distinct possibility that Apple is discontinuing the 15" iMac to have an edge over Gateway and other computer makers. Wouldn't it be nice to know that even for $1299, you could have a computer with a high-resolution, 17" widescreen LCD display?

They could also stand to update the performance specs, but one can't help but think that Apple is going with the most visible upgrade possible (literally).

[mcrain]

Originally posted by daRAT
Moniter size is like ram and cpu speed, more is better :]:D
Except in the case of the iBook??? :confused:

[GPTurismo]

Personally, if they are going to drop the price of the 17 inch they need to keep the 15 inch and drop the price of it to around 299. That would be the smarter thing to do.

I personally feel they are goihng to remodel the lower end monitor.

They need a smaller lcd for people to pick from.

[pgwalsh]

Originally posted by Mudbug
Those who think that 17" is big enough must have never sat in front of, much less worked on, a 19, 21, 23 or larger inch screen. I play on a 21" at home and have dual 21 Cinemas at work, and I still want more. I agree with Mudbug. I've been using a 21" and two 19" monitors for some time and I would not want to go any smaller than 19". I think a 19" iMac for around 2K would be remarkable. Add a speed bump and you've got a hot ticket item.

[daRAT]

Originally posted by mcrain

Except in the case of the iBook??? :confused:

No kidding :(

19" iBook ? *grin* now I am dreaming :P

[whiskeybravo]

Originally posted by Shrek


NO, DUNDEE HEAD!!! As soon the 15" is gone, the 17" will be the bottom line, which means it's price will drop and a 19" will be about what the 17" is now. :p

Don't you people know that this is how things work in the tech industry! I mean like, duh! :mad:

I think hi point is that the 15" iMac could be pushed further down the price pipeline, very close to the e-mac. Could this possibly be a bad thing?

I know this has been discussed before, but ss the proud papa of a 17" iMac, the proportions are fabulous and it makes me smile every time I sit down. I think a 19" LCD might start to look silly floating over a 10" sno-cone.

[BigFish]

I think we'll see 17" iMacs across the board, the 17" LCD drop to about $599 and a 19" LCD introduced. A 19" iMac may be intro'd in the next speed bump after this one. Let hope for 1GHZ also! Powerbook should be updated as well to 1GHz.

[nuckinfutz]

And I totally agree. Bigger the better.

LCD don't require the huge front to back depth that larger CRT monitors do and that make 19" imacs droolworthy.

[rmac]

It would be great if the monitors could swivel 90 degrees as well. Web pages and especially PDFs would be awesome to view that way.

Of course, with a 19" widescreen, you could pretty easily view two side by side pages in the horizontal ratio.

Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do...they could even tie it in with a cool transition effect using Quartz (transform, rotation, gennie type stuff).

Plus then they can animate the iMac even better in the commercials. ;)

[Bear]

I'm amused.

The thread has been talk about both the 15" iMac and 15" Studio Display. Since they are very much two different displays, Apple can discontinue one without discontinuing the other.

Having said that, I suspect the initial scenario will be the 15" & 22" displays will go away with probably an addition of a 19" display. This should also cause price drops on the 17" and 23" displays.

The 15" iMac will take longer to go away possibly. But then again it would be cheaper for them to have one display for the whole product line. A 19" display on the iMac will take longer to appear if it ever does. (IMO)

As a side note, I'm betting on at least a $1000 US price cut in the 23" display before the end of January. I want that plus whatever the first revision is of the powermac made next year.

[MrMacMan]

Just to everyone with a frikken money budget:
the 17" is fine. a 19" screen would be over kill.
Killing the 15" for a 17 and 19" replacement is IMO a bad idea.
When schools are leaving you because of price and lack of choice You Don't want to take away models under [U]Any Cost.

[pgwalsh]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Just to everyone with a frikken money budget:
the 17" is fine. a 19" screen would be over kill.
Killing the 15" for a 17 and 19" replacement is IMO a bad idea.
When schools are leaving you because of price and lack of choice You Don't want to take away models under [U]Any Cost. I can see where you're coming from and you may have a valid point. However, I would imagine schools would go for the eMac as it has less moving parts and kids wont fling it around.

I like the idea of a 19" iMac. I don't think it's too much, I think it's great.

[synergy]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Just to everyone with a frikken money budget:
the 17" is fine. a 19" screen would be over kill.
Killing the 15" for a 17 and 19" replacement is IMO a bad idea.
When schools are leaving you because of price and lack of choice You Don't want to take away models under [U]Any Cost.

How is a 19 overkill?
Broad brush statement like that does not work. It may be overkill for some, for others it helps when they do work like video editing and graphics.

Though I do agree with you dropping the 15" LCD would be a dumb idea. My guess is they are going to have all the LCD displays eventually with the swing arm like the iMacs have. 15"s probably be first.

[voicegy]

In our district (San Diego Unified) the Macs of choice are the eMac and older CRT iMacs (price being a big issue...these two solutions fit the bill 80% of the time)

Our purchasing dept. hasn't seen any rush on the new iMac (lump stick rectangle) ever since it came out.

At the IT dept., where I work, I'm on a Cinema Display. I'm the only Mac around, and, along with my Think Different posters all over the place, creates quite a sensation and a lot of drooling. How fun to see the IBM and DELL heads go nuts. :p

That said, for home use, I always was attracted to the new iMac, but waited on purpose because I just
*knew* that line up begged for a bigger screen. And it happened, and I'm very pleased. Now, an all-in-one iMac with a 19"? Well, I didn't buy the 17" yet, so we'll see after MacWorld in January...who knows, why not? I had friends who were downright ADAMANT about Apple never going from 15 to 17 on the new iMac (it would look goofy, it would fall over, it would be too expensive, etc.) Well, it doesn't, it didn't, and it's not.:)

My dream? Give me a 19" all-in-one iMac with (dare I say it?) a redesigned base (color?) and it'll be in my house before Steve gets back on his jet.

Oh, heck...even with the base it has now, funny little (big!) igloo white thing that it is.:p

[digitalrampage]

What are you guys tsalking about??? Only now EOL?

It has not been purchasable in Australia since April.... not to mention it has been marked EOL here around the same time...

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by digitalrampage
What are you guys tsalking about??? Only now EOL?

It has not been purchasable in Australia since April.... not to mention it has been marked EOL here around the same time...

Yes, I was just having this discussion with my father but as per Spy Mac it looks like they were available on Apple Store in the US.

Can anyone comfirm if you could by direct from Apple if you were a retail store???

[iJon]

Originally posted by madamimadam


Yes, I was just having this discussion with my father but as per Spy Mac it looks like they were available on Apple Store in the US.

Can anyone comfirm if you could by direct from Apple if you were a retail store???
Resellers can not order these monitors anymore. Check out the other thread I started.

iJon

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by iJon

Resellers can not order these monitors anymore. Check out the other thread I started.

iJon

A link to that thread would have been nice
:)

[D*I*S_Frontman]

The 17" iMac widescreen display is gorgeous. Fits the "widescreen-is-the-future" marketing scheme, is bright, sturdy, easy to read with a great resolution. For a home user it would be more than enough.

A TRUE 16:9 aspect 19" iMac would be a great option for film/video editing (so long as FW keeps advancing in bandwidth and drives gain stability), graphic design (throw pallettes on one side), audio engineering (so long as all audio-related glitches reported in OS X are ironed out and Digi/Motu/Emagic all come together on the Audio Unit plug in standard), and for the affluent for whom money is no object.

There was a poster on a previous thread who mentioned a great idea: have a 19" widescreen monitor-only system on a second dome base/arm set-up. Now this is not as stupid as it might seem at first. The second dome could be connected to the first via Gigabit Ethernet and have additional expansion capabilities (2nd optical drive bay, PCI card slot [would be tight, I know], hard drive, etc). The desktop footprint of the two would be about the same as a tower, but broken up in half. A video editor or recording studio engineer who spends a TON of time working on stuff in a home office environment would love twin displays that are fully articulatable at any height or angle. The system would only draw a few from the tower camp--even with the auxiliary dome, expansion would be far more limited.

Of course, if the next version or two of OS X ships with native clustering capabilities for any multithreaded application (which I pray Apple is either working on themselves or planning to buy out a company that is), then just two 19" 16:9 iMacs clustered via gigabit would do the job quite nicely.

1.25 G4 CPUs, DDR RAM, better video support, and faster mobo with these goes w/o saying...

As far as standard prop-em-up Apple displays go, a true 16:9 19" would be a home run--great for movie watching for the masses, and great for video editing/monitoring @ proper aspect. The industry needs them. Heck, even non-Apple video editors might use them via DVI. If you build it, they will come.

Another series of whispy pipe dreams...

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by D*I*S_Frontman
The 17" iMac widescreen display is gorgeous. Fits the "widescreen-is-the-future" marketing scheme, is bright, sturdy, easy to read with a great resolution. For a home user it would be more than enough.

A TRUE 16:9 aspect 19" iMac would be a great option for film/video editing (so long as FW keeps advancing in bandwidth and drives gain stability), graphic design (throw pallettes on one side), audio engineering (so long as all audio-related glitches reported in OS X are ironed out and Digi/Motu/Emagic all come together on the Audio Unit plug in standard), and for the affluent for whom money is no object.

There was a poster on a previous thread who mentioned a great idea: have a 19" widescreen monitor-only system on a second dome base/arm set-up. Now this is not as stupid as it might seem at first. The second dome could be connected to the first via Gigabit Ethernet and have additional expansion capabilities (2nd optical drive bay, PCI card slot [would be tight, I know], hard drive, etc). The desktop footprint of the two would be about the same as a tower, but broken up in half. A video editor or recording studio engineer who spends a TON of time working on stuff in a home office environment would love twin displays that are fully articulatable at any height or angle. The system would only draw a few from the tower camp--even with the auxiliary dome, expansion would be far more limited.

Of course, if the next version or two of OS X ships with native clustering capabilities for any multithreaded application (which I pray Apple is either working on themselves or planning to buy out a company that is), then just two 19" 16:9 iMacs clustered via gigabit would do the job quite nicely.

1.25 G4 CPUs, DDR RAM, better video support, and faster mobo with these goes w/o saying...

As far as standard prop-em-up Apple displays go, a true 16:9 19" would be a home run--great for movie watching for the masses, and great for video editing/monitoring @ proper aspect. The industry needs them. Heck, even non-Apple video editors might use them via DVI. If you build it, they will come.

Another series of whispy pipe dreams...

Sounds a bit too costly for my pocket.

[SubFredZero]

In Belgium the biggest apple relesser is cleaning out his 15" imac stock, g3 and g4...

No word about the 15" LCD...

[digital1]

Considering that You can get a flat panel iMac with CD-RW for $999 at mac mall now, this rumor seems to hold some truth. Sorry if somebody mentioned this already :(

:)

[Bear]

When I poked at Apple's website today, the 15" [LCD] Studio Display is no longer available for ordering.

Earlier this week, it was still available. So I guess this confirms this rumor.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I STILL think 17" is huuge..
so 19" will be overkill. I say keep the 15" cause the prices are way to high anyway.

totally agreed

how many have seen the 17 inch? it really is quite a good screen

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by jefhatfield


totally agreed

how many have seen the 17 inch? it really is quite a good screen

I LOVE my 17" and do not NEED anything more but there are some programs I use that thrive on screen realestate and I really WANT more space.

When the new PowerBooks come out and I get one, I will be running Dual Screen so my problems will be solved
:)