iBook G4 with Leopard (yet another post about this)

Simple enough, I have an iBook G4 at 1.33ghz, 1.5 gigs of RAM and the default 32 megabyte gfx card. So Quartz Extreme is supported and Core Image is Hardware Accelerated.
My question is this: Is there anyway to smooth out the graphical effects? Even the simple ones that have been in EVERY release of OS X (like minimizing and sheet dialogs) are choppy and skip frames. They run perfectly in OS X Tiger and they haven't changed at all so they should work fine right? On Better Performance, while plugged in, on a good day, they run fairly smooth but they don't normally.
I've gone through the system processes and nothing's bogging the system. This is also a fairly fresh install of Leopard so it hasn't built up any kind of clutter yet.
I also have an idea.. would the older version of Quartz Extreme in OS X Tiger work better in Leopard? Like, downgrade Leopard's version down to Tiger?

He means that I would need to disable any special effects that make Leopard look like Leopard (i.e. the 3D, reflective dock with spotlights).
At this point I'm just going to downgrade back to Tiger. I'm not too in love with Leopard because I haven't used it long enough to so it's not too big a deal. I had Tiger on this thing since I got it and it's no big deal. I was just curious what the modern day interpretation of Leopard on an iBook would be

Happy computing.

Plan around assumptions? I had no assumptions because no one's had a definitive answer whether or not Leopard would work well. I found MANY old and new post saying that Leopard runs PERFECTLY on these old iBook's (even the 1ghz ones) and on the other side I found many saying it ran like total garbage. So I had no assumptions and decided to try it out. It wasn't an inconvenience to me or anything so it didn't matter if it failed.
Oh and mind you, just because Tiger came out in 2005 doesn't mean it's bad, most apps for it were last update late 2009. Also if you want an old OS, check out the decade old (as of October 25th) Windows XP.

Have a good day.

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And performance wise, Leopard was like garbage on this compared to Tiger. I could only have 3 apps open at a time before everything slowed down (not just graphics). On Tiger the sky's the limit with what I can open

I compute just fine thank you very much, I'm one of the few people of the world who actually enjoyed using Windows Vista because I could get it to run smoothly. In all seriousness though it wasn't me. I switched most settings to be more efficient for the computer. It should be able to run Apple's Safari (with Facebook open) and Trillian (an IM app) without lagging and this was not the case.
And don't be fooled by that little thing on the left of the forums, I am not a Mac "newb" and am nowhere near a computer noob in general.

666sheep said:

^^^So, if you are "power user", what do you do around here asking for help? Did you try what previous posters have suggested, or you already know all possible answers?

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I was just curious because Google let me down Most answers were too old, and no one knew. Plus I am new to Quartz Extreme because I've never had to deal with it except on Hackintosh (but the PC had no gfx card and instead used the cpu and ram to do it all which barely works for anything besides video playback so it didn't fair any better than this iBook). Plus I haven't any suggestions besides "downgrade" or "buy a $2500 MacBook Pro" which I would GLADLY do if I could anywhere near afford it haha.

And don't forget that even the most intelligent people on earth can still learn new things from talking to other people.

666sheep said:

So I'd renew my question: did you try what others (in this particular thread) have suggested?
And don't forget: PERFECTLY could mean something different to different people One of our forum members is using 10.5 on his 500 MHz Cube, and I believe him that's acceptable for his demands

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I have tried (most of) what people have suggested, excluding Onyx. For me I love the aesthetic qualities of Mac OS X so yes, I'm one of those people who gets a bit bummed when you can't run anything graphically smooth. Acceptable for me though, is running better than a Windows based PC from the same time as the Mac In this case Leopard was like jamming Vista onto a low-end PC from 2002, it just couldn't hold up. It worked, did it's job. But was fairly sluggish in doing so. Also even my games were running much slower than in Tiger. I had to lower the gfx in Simcity 4 to the point it looked like it was supposed to be a pixelated blur effect and it was just the game! The iTunes visualizer was also slowing down a lot, even the old one (did anyone else notice they got rid of the Options for the classic visualizer?). It was acceptable in the way that I brought it along with me for a few days of average use to see how it stood against Tiger, and it worked, did what it was supposed to, but it still took more battery among other things. (longer boot times in the morning, MS Word took longer to open but at least ran about the same as Tiger, and Safari 5 at least compensated for it's lack of responsiveness with faster load times).

MacHamster68 said:

exactly what i meant

i prefer Tiger

and if you want it faster there is always OS 9 . ok it's not great when multitasking , but every OS has its downsides

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I've got OS 9 on my iMac and on a second HDD in my PowerMac, I'm all set when it comes to having the best OS for internet ever

And really? Leopard on a 466mhz machine? Man I wouldn't even try it on an 867mhz machine which is the minimum required speed (of course you can go around that) for fear of it being slower than dirt haha.