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MacRumors
Nov 3, 2011, 12:59 PM
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Bluetooth headset manufacturer Jawbone (http://jawbone.com/) has released the UP wristband (http://www.jawbone.com/up/) to track users activity, sleep, and food intake to "encourage healthier living". The water-resistant wristband, which is designed to be worn constantly, has a built-in motion sensor that tracks movement (steps, distance, calories burned, pace, intensity level and active vs inactive time) and sleep (hours slept, time to fall asleep, light vs. deep sleep and sleep quality).

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The UP connects to an iOS device (iPhone 3GS or higher, iPad, or iPod Touch 4th generation or newer) via the headphone jack to transfer data. There is no Bluetooth connectivity, curious from Jawbone which specializes in Bluetooth devices, but the UP skimps on wireless to save on battery life. Jawbone claims the UP's battery should last up to 10 days.

The wristband is "made of a spring steel frame encased in durable, sweat-proof, water-resistant, hypoallergenic rubber" and is water-resistant up to 1 meter -- basically, it can be worn 24/7, even during workouts or taking a shower, but don't go swimming with it.

The wristband's companion app, UP by Jawbone (http://appshopper.com/healthcare-fitness/up-by-jawbone), tracks activity, sleep and meals with elaborate and polished charts -- the UP's internal vibrating-motor can even wake users up with a gentle vibration at the ideal time:
Within 30 minutes of your desired wake up time, the band will intelligently interpret your sleep graph identify the best moment in your natural sleep cycle so that you feel as refreshed as possible. For example, if you were to set your wake up alarm for 7:30am, the band would vibrate at the best time between 7:00am and 7:30am based on your sleep cycle.http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/11/mzl.liqxilgb.320x480-75.jpg


The wristband tracks jogging runs as well and, when paired with an iPhone, displays users running routes on a map. There are also "challenges (http://www.jawbone.com/up/challenges)", health goals and competitions that UP users can join on their own or with friends. Challenges include walking 100,000 steps in 10 days, climbing 1,665 steps (the same number as in the Eiffel Tower), or sleeping for 10 straight hours to get a good night's sleep.

Finally, the app allows users to create a "photo journal" of what they eat and it sends a push notification a few hours after a meal to ask how they feel. The goal is to help users discover which foods make them feel best.

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The UP by Jawbone is $99.99 and goes on sale in the US on November 6, the UK on November 17th for 79.99, and worldwide by the end of 2011. It's available from Jawbone's online store (http://www.jawbone.com/up/buy), the Apple Store, Best Buy, AT&T and others.

The UP by Jawbone app is a free download (http://appshopper.com/healthcare-fitness/up-by-jawbone), available for the iPhone or iPad. However, it doesn't do anything without the wristband itself.

Article Link: Jawbone's UP Wristband Tracks Activity, Movement and Sleep (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/03/jawbones-up-wristband-tracks-activity-movement-and-sleep/)



docwisdom
Nov 3, 2011, 01:03 PM
Ive been excited for this release for a while. I was comparing it to Basis and FitBit and it looks like the least intrusive option to me. Just put my order in.


UPDATE
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One week of using the UP, I'll be returning mine. Its just too young in development for me to justify the $99 spent.
#1. Realistically, I was only getting about 36 hours out of a charge, not 10 days as advertised. I did a reset as recommended by support, but it did not resolve the problem.
#2. I really cant believe this thing doesn't sync over bluetooth. When you think jawbone, you think bluetooth, right? Nope, not on this one. You have to pull the cap, and plug it into your headphone port to sync manually. On dozens of occasions it would not sync. One reason for not syncing is your headphone volume and over & over again it would reset my headset volume to 100% or 0% automatically when plugging it in.
#3. The photo meal tracking feature is a joke and doesn't really even deserve discussion.
#4. It fits awkwardly. When I'm at the computer (4-6 hours a day) it keeps slipping down and sits uncomfortably between my wrist and the desk. When im working out, it slips up & down my wrist due to the weight. Its also considerably wider than it is tall so I have a gap on each side of my wrist and it fits just right top & bottom.

Its not all bad though. I really do like the sleep tracking features and the vibrate to awake. I woke up most days fairly well rested and not jolted. I also like the UI of the app. I only wish they had a nice fluid website to match when browsing from my Mac or PC.

Jawbone: Slim it down a bit, with a more rounded fit. Give it bluetooth or wifi syncing and give me a real nutrition tracker like dailyburn or sparkpeople then Ill be happy to buy again in the future.

Koodauw
Nov 3, 2011, 01:12 PM
This looks really awesome. I will this work on runs?

twitter
Nov 3, 2011, 01:14 PM
nice idea but it would be nice to have it smaller and not look like a shackle

UnseenLlama
Nov 3, 2011, 01:16 PM
Ive been excited for this release for a while. I was comparing it to Basis and FitBit and it looks like the least intrusive option to me. Just put my order in.

Exactly, that's the key. Wear it and forget about it.

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This looks really awesome. I will this work on runs?

According to Jawbone's site, you can create an activity with a GPS based route in the app on the iPhone. Then when you sync the Up, will add the activity data.

ob81
Nov 3, 2011, 01:18 PM
This thing looks great. Wearing it and forgetting about it is the big selling point. I wish they would have came in at an initial price of $65-70 though. $100 bucks is kind of steep.

Time will tell if it is a game changer.

medi.freak
Nov 3, 2011, 01:21 PM
Is this not for iPad2 or why is it not in the list? They added all the other versions of iOS devices...

amann76
Nov 3, 2011, 01:27 PM
as a tech junkie i just found my next useless gadget

jlgolson
Nov 3, 2011, 01:30 PM
Is this not for iPad2 or why is it not in the list? They added all the other versions of iOS devices...Yes, it works on the iPad 2.

Diode
Nov 3, 2011, 01:31 PM
Is this not for iPad2 or why is it not in the list? They added all the other versions of iOS devices...

It shows the iPad2 on their site as compatible.

http://www.jawbone.com/up/faqs#!show_faq_app_que10
Which devices will the UP by Jawbone app work with?

It’s currently available for following devices running iOS 4.1 and greater:

iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S
iPad and iPad 2
iPod Touch 4th Generation and newer (GPS functions in the app may be limited)

soco
Nov 3, 2011, 01:35 PM
Jawbone's website says, "Ships 3 - 4 Weeks" but this comes out on the 6th?

Does that mean it'll be available in Apple stores and the like on the 6th but ship from the manufacturer weeks later?

Weird.

GeekLawyer
Nov 3, 2011, 01:41 PM
I've read that some Apple stores are already showing (and selling!) these - in NY and NJ.

Anyone seen them yet?

chuckles:)
Nov 3, 2011, 01:44 PM
This looks tempting. I've been meaning to get healthier.

Locodice
Nov 3, 2011, 01:47 PM
This looks amazing but the fact that you can't wirelessly sync to the iPhone is a major downer for me.

Makes no sense when a company like Jawbone who specialise in bluetooth don't incorporate it into it.

I'll no doubt end up getting one though :D

Diveflo
Nov 3, 2011, 01:55 PM
On the european (German) site it says "ships by end of november"...anyone got an accurate launch date for this?
My order is out as well, looking forward to this.

What color did you guys go with? I went with bright red...black was the only other option apparrently.

UnseenLlama
Nov 3, 2011, 01:57 PM
This looks amazing but the fact that you can't wirelessly sync to the iPhone is a major downer for me.

Makes no sense when a company like Jawbone who specialise in bluetooth don't incorporate it into it.

I'll no doubt end up getting one though :D

They will need something to get you to upgrade to Up 2... :D

Locodice
Nov 3, 2011, 01:59 PM
They will need something to get you to upgrade to Up 2... :D

True true, but many will just say "Up Yours" - see what I did der? hehe

iphoneg33k
Nov 3, 2011, 02:02 PM
So once you get it you sync it with your phone by taking it off ever day ?

Don't understand how it sync and keeps tracks of your stuff.

Locodice
Nov 3, 2011, 02:05 PM
So once you get it you sync it with your phone by taking it off ever day ?

Don't understand how it sync and keeps tracks of your stuff.

It has a 3.5mm attachment that goes into the headphone socket.

soco
Nov 3, 2011, 02:13 PM
Currently in queue to speak with a Jawbone agent via live chat. Will update when I get an answer about the sporatic dates.

Update: I got to the head of the queue and was promptly disconnected and told to try again later.

Update 2: Got an email back stating any orders through Jawbone.com will not ship for 3-6 weeks and they recommend to buy in a store instead if you want one on launch.

igazza
Nov 3, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Looks good, how you charge it?

matthewHUB
Nov 3, 2011, 02:31 PM
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So once you get it you sync it with your phone by taking it off ever day ?

Don't understand how it sync and keeps tracks of your stuff.

Yes I'm not sure of this either. Can someone confirm? It tracks your moment while you sleep and wakes you up in the lightest cycle? In real-time? Or based on an average of data manipulated with their "complex algorithms"?

I don't understand how if it does track your movement/sync in real time durin sleep, it doesn't "sync" wirelessly!

ericrwalker
Nov 3, 2011, 02:38 PM
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Looks good, how you charge it?

with the USB cord to 3.5mm adapter.

http://www.jawbone.com/support/up

kcgrl
Nov 3, 2011, 02:42 PM
This looks amazing but the fact that you can't wirelessly sync to the iPhone is a major downer for me.

Makes no sense when a company like Jawbone who specialise in bluetooth don't incorporate it into it.

I'll no doubt end up getting one though :D


I do believe they did this so that the battery life would last longer than one day! I am okay with having to manually sync it but I do think in the future they will have to add this feature!

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can't wait for the reviews to start coming out! definitely on my wish list! I may be selling my bodybugg for this considering I don't like how bulking the bodybugg is...so this might be just the gadget I was looking for! ;)

scott911
Nov 3, 2011, 02:43 PM
I do like the feature that wakes you at the "right" time.
Interesting to see if it works and improves one's morning routine.

soco
Nov 3, 2011, 02:45 PM
I do like the feature that wakes you at the "right" time.
Interesting to see if it works and improves one's morning routine.
It works quite well when you give it long enough to learn your patterns.

I used this a while back with the Sleep Cycle app for iPhone and it really did improve my mornings.

spblat
Nov 3, 2011, 03:07 PM
Yes I'm not sure of this either. Can someone confirm? It tracks your moment while you sleep and wakes you up in the lightest cycle? In real-time? Or based on an average of data manipulated with their "complex algorithms"?

I don't understand how if it does track your movement/sync in real time durin sleep, it doesn't "sync" wirelessly!

The band has its own microcontroller which monitors your movements. It knows when you want to wake up because you sync'd it previously with this information. Then 30 minutes before the wake time it waits until your movements indicate you're in a lighter sleep, and wakes you up with vibration.

ericrwalker
Nov 3, 2011, 03:15 PM
I think I am going to get this, but I don't think I ever get enough sleep. So it will probably never wake me up.

rollsroyce442
Nov 3, 2011, 03:18 PM
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Wouldn't this have been the perfect candidate for Bluetooth 4.0 or whatever they are calling it these days. I guess then it would only work with the 4s.

tkermit
Nov 3, 2011, 04:57 PM
It tracks your moment while you sleep and wakes you up in the lightest cycle?

To be honest, it sounds like one of those ideas that sound awesome in theory, but barely work in practice. I can't imagine that an analysis of your arm movements would be enough to make good assumptions about the phase of sleep you're in.

I hope I'm wrong about this though. I'd love to be vibrated out of sleep at just the right time...

leontief
Nov 3, 2011, 04:59 PM
To be honest, it sounds like one of those ideas that sound awesome in theory, but barely work in practice. I can't imagine that an analysis of your arm movements would be enough to make good assumptions about the phase of sleep you're in.

I hope I'm wrong about this though.


You don't think your pulse and heart beat latency could be used for this?

tkermit
Nov 3, 2011, 05:00 PM
You don't think your pulse and heart beat latency could be used for this?

I'm sure they could *they aren't though?!

Diveflo
Nov 3, 2011, 05:06 PM
I'm sure they could *they aren't though?!

This has been done many times before the "Up". There are alarm clocks with wristbands from many major brands with this feature and the app stores are full of apps like that.
I personally owned an alarm clock like this and I think it helpef! Though the placebo effect is often underestimated...

estockme
Nov 3, 2011, 05:48 PM
I want to pee on it for my nutrition facts.

Fireproof!
Nov 3, 2011, 05:52 PM
true true, but many will just say "up yours" - see what i did der? Hehe

lmao!

citi
Nov 3, 2011, 06:04 PM
This is seriously going to give Nike + a run for it's money. I think I'm going to buy one.

kasei
Nov 3, 2011, 06:30 PM
This looks quite interesting and I'll have to pick one up. I am curious to see how often this device is updated by Jawbone and the new features they will introduce.

appleisgod
Nov 3, 2011, 07:42 PM
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Just bought one from the apple store in slc. I'll let you know what I think

lokiju
Nov 3, 2011, 08:11 PM
Think I might get one...

lokiju
Nov 3, 2011, 08:24 PM
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Just bought one from the apple store in slc. I'll let you know what I think

Did they have any XL sized ones in the store? Says coming soon on their site for that size and according to their sizing chart I'd need to probably go with that. I'm just over 15cm (15.32cm) and it says if you're between then to go with the larger size.

DoctorOwl
Nov 3, 2011, 11:29 PM
No international delivery. Not available on Apple Store online in Australia.

No sale.

brainles71
Nov 3, 2011, 11:37 PM
No international delivery. Not available on Apple Store online in Australia.

No sale.

If you really want it look for mail forwarding companies that will ship to Aus... here are a few:

http://www.shipito.com/
http://www.myus.com
https://bongous.com
http://www.comgateway.com

I want to know how long its buzzes for if you dont wake up! Is there a chance for you to be buzzed again?

appleisgod
Nov 3, 2011, 11:37 PM
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They only had small, medium, and large and they were only in black.

antman2295
Nov 4, 2011, 12:12 AM
Buying one asap =D

theschoning
Nov 4, 2011, 09:34 AM
i want to pee on it for my nutrition facts.

lol

appleisgod
Nov 4, 2011, 10:26 AM
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No international delivery. Not available on Apple Store online in Australia.

No sale.

If you really want it look for mail forwarding companies that will ship to Aus... here are a few:

http://www.shipito.com/
http://www.myus.com
https://bongous.com
http://www.comgateway.com

I want to know how long its buzzes for if you dont wake up! Is there a chance for you to be buzzed again?

It's constantly buzzed to wake you up. It won't stop until you take it out of sleep mode by holding the button on the wristband. It's actually a surprisingly strong vibrate, woke me up almost instantly.

soco
Nov 4, 2011, 10:35 AM
So the Apple store at Garden State Plaza in New Jersey (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.apple.com/retail/gardenstateplaza/&sa=U&ei=-gW0TprrE-b20gHmtqXDBA&ved=0CDIQFjAJ&sig2=rpWRdus_7IaaCAbSpCAzUw&usg=AFQjCNEaSghgpulHoNF6V8Vk2CxtF2AFtw) says they have them right now... uh... gonna go down there over lunch and see.

Either way, this is readily available at the retailers listed as of Sunday and I was able to confirm with Jawbone that brick-and-mortar is the way to go at first. Their shipping from Jawbone.com will take a minimum of 4-6 weeks.

I'm excited! :D

darkslide29
Nov 4, 2011, 10:52 AM
Aw damn I just bought an iPod Nano too, partly to wear on my wrist as a watch, and also for the Nike+. Maybe I would have wanted this instead.

iphoneg33k
Nov 4, 2011, 10:58 AM
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Just bought one from the apple store in slc. I'll let you know what I think

Well any update on how it's going on this? I was thinking of buying one myself.

miniConvert
Nov 4, 2011, 11:04 AM
Waiting for a BT version :(

Otherwise looks awesome!

garylapointe
Nov 4, 2011, 11:53 AM
I'm in for two. One for each wrist. I want to see if they learn the same sleep patterns.

Just kidding, although it would be an interesting test.

I am in for one, if my Apple gift card is in my mailbox, I'm calling to see if they have them in stock. (Some people reported earlier some stores had them).

Gary

lokiju
Nov 4, 2011, 12:08 PM
Picked up one from the Apple store near my work on lunch today. Alpharetta, GA location if anyone cares.

They only had it in black and did not have the XL size in stock.

Based on their sizing recommendations on their site I was just over the large size but not by much. So far the large size seems to fit well.

Setup was easy and it's to soon to really say much more about it.

If I recall, I'll try and do a update after the weekend with my thoughts on it.

If it seems like something worth wild I'll probably get one for my wife also.

Funny side note. The apple employee that rang up the purchase was surprised it was for sale already. Guess I was the 1st to buy one.

Fireproof!
Nov 4, 2011, 12:12 PM
Tried two Apple stores today and both only had Mediums in Black. Unfortunately I need a Large and my wife needs a Small.

AT&T said they didn't have their stock yet and wouldn't sell it to me if they did, until Sunday. :rolleyes:

Local Best Buy said they had a nice display, but no stock yet.

So I'll keep trying. Would love to get my hands on one before Sunday.

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Nov 4, 2011, 12:17 PM
One hundred dollars!?!? :eek:
Well, I suppose if you're spending money on superflous gadgets, you're not spending it on food. :rolleyes:

PracticalMac
Nov 4, 2011, 12:21 PM
It seems to be simply an accelerometer attached to your wrist, with a vibrator. for alerts.

Anyone have different info on the sensors?

OH!
I wonder if the app can support more then 1 unit (his, hers, kids, the dog, etc).

appleisgod
Nov 4, 2011, 12:23 PM
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Just bought one from the apple store in slc. I'll let you know what I think

Well any update on how it's going on this? I was thinking of buying one myself.

It did a great job of waking me up this morning at the "right" time. I havent synced it with my data from today yet, but last night it did a pretty accurate job of counting my steps and such. I'll be using it on a run later to see just how accurate it is.

jtara
Nov 4, 2011, 12:29 PM
What about security? Is the data encrypted?

In California, the police can probably seize it even in a traffic stop, and download the data. If it catches on, I can see how the data could be quite useful to prosecutors.

(In California, they can now "search" your phone or other electronic devices. I'm amazed that there has been practically NO public uproar about this. Will be interesting to see if there is a ballot initiative. If not, it just proves that California ballot initiatives are really just about lobbying money and the $1 or so that the "volunteers" collect per signature...)

Friscohoya
Nov 4, 2011, 12:47 PM
If this takes off I imagine that a company like Nike will create something a bit better. Jawbone doesnt have the marketing push to take it beyond a niche product...Looks cool though. I've always wanted something like this. I wonder how good the calorie monitoring side of it is? If it has a database the size of Lose It i'd be impressed.

soco
Nov 4, 2011, 12:48 PM
Just confirmed with their manager that they have a few on display and plenty in the back but only in Large.

PracticalMac
Nov 4, 2011, 01:14 PM
If this takes off I imagine that a company like Nike will create something a bit better. Jawbone doesnt have the marketing push to take it beyond a niche product...Looks cool though. I've always wanted something like this. I wonder how good the calorie monitoring side of it is? If it has a database the size of Lose It i'd be impressed.

If it only monitors movement, then it will be very inaccurate.
If it can sens pulse rate and movement, then its got something!

Friscohoya
Nov 4, 2011, 01:44 PM
If it only monitors movement, then it will be very inaccurate.
If it can sens pulse rate and movement, then its got something!

Yeah and I just looked it up to see what's in it and it looks like it is only movement. I think they have th eright form factor, it just looks like the tech isnt there yet to fit inside such a small and comfortable form factor. PLus without it actually touching against your skin they cant measure heat/exertion/pulse/etc. I may go to the bodymedia arm band.

f00f
Nov 4, 2011, 02:34 PM
"Extended" manual here, from Jawbone's site (http://content.jawbone.com/static/www/pdf/manuals/up/up-by-jawbone-extended-manual-en.pdf).

Just a vibrator and an accelerometer.

I grabbed one of these today despite the obvious extreme simplicity of it and questionable accuracy/usefulness (I'm a glutton for gadgets). However I will be returning/exchanging it because although my dainty wrist fit into the "medium" size, it's much too snug. Will try a large. (The Apple chick at the checkout took it upon herself to question the validity of my wrist size: "Your wrists are this small...?.... LOL" Medium is 15.5-18cm as stated in the above linked PDF, large is 18-20cm.)

Pic to show the "sizing flap" on the packaging. Actual size of the band is slightly smaller than this.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/gfjqgh76995oa0s/size-flap-fail.png

appleisgod
Nov 4, 2011, 02:44 PM
I bought this as I am training for a marathon and thought it would be awesome to have something that kept track of all my movement, sleep patterns, and what I eat. While it does accomplish some of this, its no where near the level to justify the $100 price tag. I checked the app midway through my run to see how far it says I've gone and it was about a mile off when i was only 5 miles into my run. The GPS map showed me zig zagging across blocks, which made it think I had gone further. The step tracking is way off as well. I walk to and from class every day as I live about a mile off campus. When I synced the wristband after I got home, it said I had gone a total of 4 miles, double what I actually had. Overall its a great idea and I can't wait to see what a more reputable company (such as nike) can do with a total tracking device like this, but unfortunately this will be returned to the apple store tomorrow.

f00f
Nov 4, 2011, 02:52 PM
I bought this as I am training for a marathon and thought it would be awesome to have something that kept track of all my movement, sleep patterns, and what I eat. While it does accomplish some of this, its no where near the level to justify the $100 price tag.
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Ah that's a bummer but that's for the feedback. Clearly if it's as inaccurate as you say it's no where near worth the price.

I believe mine shall be returned, rather than exchanged, as well.

iphoneg33k
Nov 4, 2011, 04:36 PM
I bought this as I am training for a marathon and thought it would be awesome to have something that kept track of all my movement, sleep patterns, and what I eat. While it does accomplish some of this, its no where near the level to justify the $100 price tag. I checked the app midway through my run to see how far it says I've gone and it was about a mile off when i was only 5 miles into my run. The GPS map showed me zig zagging across blocks, which made it think I had gone further. The step tracking is way off as well. I walk to and from class every day as I live about a mile off campus. When I synced the wristband after I got home, it said I had gone a total of 4 miles, double what I actually had. Overall its a great idea and I can't wait to see what a more reputable company (such as nike) can do with a total tracking device like this, but unfortunately this will be returned to the apple store tomorrow.

See that's a bummer . I was very excited to go out and buy one. But if it does not work right then I have second doughts I would buy one. Plus it's $100:eek: for other $20 dollars I could get a Garmin Forerunner 305 Red Sports GPS with heart rate.

Anymore feed back on users that bought it would be great.

liavman
Nov 4, 2011, 04:45 PM
Yeah and I just looked it up to see what's in it and it looks like it is only movement. I think they have the right form factor, it just looks like the tech isn't there yet to fit inside such a small and comfortable form factor. Puus without it actually touching against your skin they cant measure heat/exertion/pulse/etc. I may go to the bodymedia arm band.

I looked at bodymedia arm band after reading Friscohoya's post. (http://www.bodymedia.com/site/landing/core_landing.html)

Any compare and contrast?

Is the technology of bodymedia more comprehensive and advanced compared to UP? Bodymedia also says it is about calorie in, calorie out and sleep.

How does it know the constituents of the food we eat ( protein, fat etc. )

One thing that concerned me is it seems the online support is subscription based after the initial free period. Is the device by itself worth it without the online subscription?

The price at $180 is quite steep. Are there cheaper alternatives?

mox358
Nov 4, 2011, 05:13 PM
This is a very interesting looking device. If it actually works well, it might be worth $100. Still it's a tad bit pricey, so I'm going to wait out for a bit and see how the early adopters feel about it. It's definitely on my radar though.

Like others have said, I can easily see a Nike + wristband coming out within the next year that does the same thing, if this is commercially successful.

advan031
Nov 4, 2011, 05:26 PM
I will receive my fitbit today from Amazon and I thought about picking this up to compare:p Anybody tried both?

Friscohoya
Nov 4, 2011, 05:32 PM
I looked at bodymedia arm band after reading Friscohoya's post. (http://www.bodymedia.com/site/landing/core_landing.html)

Any compare and contrast?

Is the technology of bodymedia more comprehensive and advanced compared to UP? Bodymedia also says it is about calorie in, calorie out and sleep.

How does it know the constituents of the food we eat ( protein, fat etc. )

One thing that concerned me is it seems the online support is subscription based after the initial free period. Is the device by itself worth it without the online subscription?

The price at $180 is quite steep. Are there cheaper alternatives?

I've now changed my mind again after looking indeoth at the two. At the end of the day if you are looking at losing weight its mostly about what you eat. Even a long workout may burn 800-1200 calories depending on your size, but if you consume 4000-5000 calories it meant nothing (easy to do after looking at calories on a Cheesecake Facotry menu, but I digress). So the most important part is the calorie tracking element which the UP lacks completely, but is available for free or cheaply from a number of apps. I prefer Lose It, but there are certainly others.

So after thinking about it, it seems that the UP, for what it lacks in accuracy, it makes up for in comfort. While it may not be as accurate as something that is twice the price, it is more convenient and still better than estimating the calories burned throughout the day based on databases and averages (e.g. I ran 3 miles at a moderate pace). Actually when you think about it it basically just counts steps, wakes you up and helps to better account for all of the activity that you do during the day that youwouldnt otherwise log such as walking around the office. I would pay $50 for the sleep monitoring alone and the alarm clock feature. So an extra $50 for cool graphs and extra data seems pretty reasonable. I just hope that they add the heat transfer collection, moisture sensor, etc in a subsequent version. I still dont believe that Nike doesnt have something like this!

citi
Nov 4, 2011, 05:49 PM
No international delivery. Not available on Apple Store online in Australia.

No sale.

clearly

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This is a very interesting looking device. If it actually works well, it might be worth $100. Still it's a tad bit pricey, so I'm going to wait out for a bit and see how the early adopters feel about it. It's definitely on my radar though.

Like others have said, I can easily see a Nike + wristband coming out within the next year that does the same thing, if this is commercially successful.

The funny thing is, Nike already has a wrist band similar to this one. My wife has one. They just never promoted it and it's dedicated to excersize. All they have to do is update the software, add an acceleromter and rebadge it to be worn all the time and they are done.

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportband

OafTobark
Nov 4, 2011, 11:10 PM
I've read that some Apple stores are already showing (and selling!) these - in NY and NJ.

Anyone seen them yet?

went into my local Apple store in Temecula, Ca...

they had them in stock, S-L Black only.

yanki01
Nov 4, 2011, 11:35 PM
very nice but not the price.

Eldiablojoe
Nov 4, 2011, 11:43 PM
What about security? Is the data encrypted?

In California, the police can probably seize it even in a traffic stop, and download the data. If it catches on, I can see how the data could be quite useful to prosecutors.

(In California, they can now "search" your phone or other electronic devices. I'm amazed that there has been practically NO public uproar about this. Will be interesting to see if there is a ballot initiative. If not, it just proves that California ballot initiatives are really just about lobbying money and the $1 or so that the "volunteers" collect per signature...)

You must be referring to the Diaz case that the USSC declined to review. I'm not at all shocked that there is no public uproar over this. It allows the police to treat your cell phone the same as your wallet in that upon lawful arrest (not solely a reasonable suspicion based traffic stop detention), they are allowed to search all the contents on it.

Just like evidence and information can be obtained from slips of paper in one's wallet (driver's license, medical needs, emergency contact/next of kin information, drug dealer's phone number, pay/owe sheets, etc.), so can they be stored in one's phone. Additionally the GPS information can either lend weight to suspicion or alleviate suspicion depending upon the information contained and the circumstances of the situation.

If you are guilty, it'll likely allow the police easier access to information to add weight to the likelihood that you are guilty.

If you are innocent, it'll likely allow the police easier access to information to add weight to the likelihood that you are innocent.

Cuts both ways. In my opinion, from a benefit of / betterment of society at large perspective, I think it is a good thing. The police are handcuffed sufficiently to generally prevent the trampling of a citizen's individual rights.

I'm pretty certain your opinion differs, and that's fine. We need more than one opinion in order for the system of checks and balances to work. I'll be the Yin to your Yang :)

twoodcc
Nov 5, 2011, 12:26 AM
now this sounds pretty cool. i might be interested in this

freedevil
Nov 5, 2011, 04:10 AM
I bought it and yes it's not super accurate I suppose but I mainly need the sleep function, and the rest is for fun. I believe its a beginning, version 2 and 3 will incorporate hopefully more awesome stuff, like wireless syncing with wifi, setting the alarm clock for the app and also apples clock as a backup.

DotCom2
Nov 5, 2011, 09:32 AM
It says you can wear it 24/7. Don't you have to take it off to recharge it?
How long does it take to recharge?
Price is too high IMHO.

tkermit
Nov 5, 2011, 09:37 AM
This has been done many times before the "Up". There are alarm clocks with wristbands from many major brands with this feature and the app stores are full of apps like that.
I personally owned an alarm clock like this and I think it helpef! Though the placebo effect is often underestimated...

Thanks for the info. You're right about the placebo effect. I think I'm going to give Sleep Cycle (http://itunes.apple.com/app/sleep-cycle-alarm-clock/id320606217?mt=8) a try. It's only 99 cents.

freedevil
Nov 5, 2011, 10:15 AM
It says you can wear it 24/7. Don't you have to take it off to recharge it?
How long does it take to recharge?
Price is too high IMHO.

80 minutes every 10 days.

ericrwalker
Nov 5, 2011, 10:16 AM
80 minutes every 10 days.

during those 80 minutes I will eat like a pig and lay around being lazy.:eek:

freedevil
Nov 5, 2011, 10:20 AM
Thanks for the info. You're right about the placebo effect. I think I'm going to give Sleep Cycle (http://itunes.apple.com/app/sleep-cycle-alarm-clock/id320606217?mt=8) a try. It's only 99 cents.

I slept during the day yesterday and it a did a good job tracking my sleep. I took a long time to fall asleep and it caught that as well. Unfortunately I woke up before my band could wake me up due to external noises.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5370/img1005.png

liavman
Nov 5, 2011, 12:49 PM
Thanks for the info. You're right about the placebo effect. I think I'm going to give Sleep Cycle (http://itunes.apple.com/app/sleep-cycle-alarm-clock/id320606217?mt=8) a try. It's only 99 cents.

I bought Sleep Cycle just now after reading your post. Let me see how it works tonight.

OafTobark
Nov 5, 2011, 01:45 PM
I bought Sleep Cycle just now after reading your post. Let me see how it works tonight.

i've used sleep cycle for about 3 months now...

works great! accurate and cool to see when you wake up.

still waiting for retailers to have UP in different colors in stock...

bchaplin
Nov 5, 2011, 02:50 PM
Just got one of these at an Apple store. When I went to the Boston store on Friday they were sold out of all but the small sizes; however, the New Hampshire store had a larger selection.

I think the design and simplicity are brilliant! It is comfortable to wear, which means a lot to me. It doesn't accurately count steps, but it is good enough for my purposes. It clearly charts periods of inactivity, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it records my sleep patterns. The food diary is cleverly integrated into the iPhone app and easy enough to use that I might be able to stick with it. On the other hand, the programming for setting up alarms clearly needs to be improved, or I just won't end up using that feature.

jaw04005
Nov 5, 2011, 10:49 PM
FYI, you can save $25 off of the Jawbone UP if you purchase it through ATT using this RetailMeNot link:

http://www.retailmenot.com/out/2776923

And you get priority shipping. They only have black though.

Airmark1
Nov 6, 2011, 12:27 AM
FYI, you can save $25 off of the Jawbone UP if you purchase it through ATT using this RetailMeNot link:

http://www.retailmenot.com/out/2776923

And you get priority shipping. They only have black though.

THANKS! Great link. Worked great. I ordered 2. Will figure out what size I need and return as needed.

BTW search for Speciality Items to find them.

vitzr
Nov 6, 2011, 12:38 AM
I'm super active, track every workout, everything I eat & drink. This is perfect for me even though it's version 1.0. If it only does half of what they claim, for a mere $100, it's a great deal. I'll find a retail store & pickup one when it's released.

UnseenLlama
Nov 6, 2011, 07:51 AM
clearly

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The funny thing is, Nike already has a wrist band similar to this one. My wife has one. They just never promoted it and it's dedicated to excersize. All they have to do is update the software, add an acceleromter and rebadge it to be worn all the time and they are done.

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportband

The Nike Sportband is nothing like the Jawbone Up.

The Up's appeal is it's simplicity and being able to wear it 24/7 for 10 days straight without a recharge. Also, no other divide I've seen has a wake function like the Up, especially at the $99 price range.

Fireproof!
Nov 6, 2011, 08:36 AM
FYI, you can save $25 off of the Jawbone UP if you purchase it through ATT using this RetailMeNot link:

http://www.retailmenot.com/out/2776923

And you get priority shipping. They only have black though.

Outstanding. Just ordered one for me and my wife. Worked great - saved $50!

Thank you!

chhhrrriiisss
Nov 6, 2011, 08:49 AM
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I'm thinking about getting the up band but I'm wondering will the device itself get updates or will you need a new wristband all together?

UnseenLlama
Nov 6, 2011, 09:31 AM
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I'm thinking about getting the up band but I'm wondering will the device itself get updates or will you need a new wristband all together?

There is a software version associated with both the app and the Up bracelet. This would lead me to believe that the bracelet will receive firmware updates too.

tweaks
Nov 6, 2011, 09:45 AM
There is a software version associated with both the app and the Up bracelet. This would lead me to believe that the bracelet will receive firmware updates too.

Agreed.

tweaks
Nov 6, 2011, 10:46 AM
Has anybody seen them at target yet?

bob616
Nov 6, 2011, 11:28 AM
FYI, you can save $25 off of the Jawbone UP if you purchase it through ATT using this RetailMeNot link:

http://www.retailmenot.com/out/2776923

And you get priority shipping. They only have black though.

Just ordered mine with this. Thank you for the link! Too bad AT&T only carries the black one.

mffl04
Nov 6, 2011, 12:23 PM
Has anybody seen them at target yet?

just checked the 2 targets in my town. The people that work there had no idea what it was, and had none. Same thing at Best Buy. Pretty disappointing...

wingsabr
Nov 6, 2011, 12:23 PM
Picked one up at best buy. Pretty cool so far

Friscohoya
Nov 6, 2011, 12:58 PM
Had it since Friday and really wanted to like it. Doesn't track calories burned and requires lots to button pushing to track activity. Also the indicator lights are hard to see in daylight which incidentally is when you need them. Sleep thing is cool but the vibrate to wake also woke my wife which kills the point (still cool though). Ultimately just not sophisticated enough if you are already an active person. If you need help getting off the couch it may be of value but if you are trying to track your active lifestyle it will leave plenty to be desired. Mine is going back today...


Actually it does track calories. Gonna give it another week.

chr
Nov 6, 2011, 01:34 PM
FYI, you can save $25 off of the Jawbone UP if you purchase it through ATT using this RetailMeNot link:

http://www.retailmenot.com/out/2776923

And you get priority shipping. They only have black though.

Any idea how long it takes for them to ship this? I ordered one today and really hope it doesn't take a week or two.

tweaks
Nov 6, 2011, 01:40 PM
just checked the 2 targets in my town. The people that work there had no idea what it was, and had none. Same thing at Best Buy. Pretty disappointing...

Yup. Same thing that I encountered. Target had no clue and bb did not have them yet. If you want one just go to your nearest apple store. They had 9 this morning. When I went in they had one left. So far I like it.

OafTobark
Nov 6, 2011, 02:17 PM
picked up 2 yesterday, so stoked!

apple had them thursday, best buy saturday, and select target stores today.

so far, does everything i expected. works great, no flaws that i see as of yet. but, the app can deff use some work. not that its bad and doesn't do what it says its supposed to, just some simplicity would be nice.

also, some better social media integration would be nice. i.e connect to fb and/or twitter so that i can find my friends that are using UP.

in all, solid launch for a pretty cool product.

RMo
Nov 6, 2011, 02:25 PM
Had it since Friday and really wanted to like it. Doesn't track calories burned and requires lots to button pushing to track activity. Also the indicator lights are hard to see in daylight which incidentally is when you need them. Sleep thing is cool but the vibrate to wake also woke my wife which kills the point (still cool though). Ultimately just not sophisticated enough if you are already an active person. If you need help getting off the couch it may be of value but if you are trying to track your active lifestyle it will leave plenty to be desired. Mine is going back today...

My boyfriend got one yesterday and really wanted to like it, too--but he has most of the same complaints. Lots of button-pushing required to tell it when you're doing certain things, inconvenient since it's not wireless, and feels awkward on your wrist.

He offered it to me, but I think I'll pass. :)

jaw04005
Nov 6, 2011, 02:32 PM
Any idea how long it takes for them to ship this? I ordered one today and really hope it doesn't take a week or two.

No idea. Retailers were not even supposed to start selling the Jawbone UP until today, Nov. 6. Some Apple Stores went ahead and sold them anyway though.

Edit: It appears it'll ship soon because it's no longer mentioned as backordered on my ATT order status page.

OafTobark
Nov 6, 2011, 03:02 PM
My boyfriend got one yesterday and really wanted to like it, too--but he has most of the same complaints. Lots of button-pushing required to tell it when you're doing certain things, inconvenient since it's not wireless, and feels awkward on your wrist.

He offered it to me, but I think I'll pass. :)

really? theres two different button combos...
press&hold and then double press&hold

i'm sure your vibrator has more buttons, and I don't hear you complaining.

ricperry1
Nov 6, 2011, 09:53 PM
I really think they missed an opportunity to be the first product using the new low-power (optimized) BT standard. If you've got to take the device off to sync it, why not take it off less often to charge it, knowing that the data is sync'd up with your iphone?

jclardy
Nov 6, 2011, 10:37 PM
So after a lot of reading I have decide to try the Fitbit ultra.

I liked the wristband format and the vibrate alarm on the Up, but I like the fitbit software a ton better. Better food logging, integration with RunKeeper, plus the interface just looks better, including the iPhone app.

I wish it was waterproof though as that is a major advantage of the Up.

I also want to try the MotoACTV, as it would be a cool watch to wear around. I have my doubts about its battery life though (With LCD, GPS, Pedometer, Bluetooth, and some kind of ARM cpu), I don't want to plug my watch in more than my phone.

freedevil
Nov 7, 2011, 06:38 AM
I decided to return my UP after 3 days. The concept is nice but the product is lacking. The only thing it did for me was track to sleep that too sucked because I don't fixed schedule so I have to keep syncing the band for an alarm.

Cons:
1. No wifi or bluetooth: manually syncing 2-3 times a day is pointless
2. No web interface.
3. Does not track activity unless arms are moving so if you are biking or have your hands on the treadmill rails, it won't work
4. Buttons suck and keep getting pressed during sex
5. It loves to grab and pull on women's hair
6. Not integrated with lose it or other cool weightless apps like fitbit does
7. Seems pointless for the money

powers74
Nov 7, 2011, 09:02 AM
Seems like it could be a standalone app tho. But who's going to buy a $100 app.

ericrwalker
Nov 7, 2011, 09:08 AM
Seems like it could be a standalone app tho. But who's going to buy a $100 app.

I bought the tomtom app for $99, and also have bought a couple of other apps for $49.

I am sure this app will get better with more users and user feedback to the company.

soco
Nov 7, 2011, 09:18 AM
I bought the tomtom app for $99, and also have bought a couple of other apps for $49.

I am sure this app will get better with more users and user feedback to the company.
Unfortunately for early adopters though, I think this will only happen with hardware updates, not software of firmware.

ericrwalker
Nov 7, 2011, 09:22 AM
Unfortunately for early adopters though, I think this will only happen with hardware updates, not software of firmware.

There are many people out there that won't be a new product (car, phone, etc) when it's first released, just because of that. Early adopters make things better for late adopters. Yeah you don't get the benefits that the late adopter will get, but you will get the current benefits that are offered.

toolioiep
Nov 7, 2011, 09:53 AM
Cons:
4. Buttons suck and keep getting pressed during sex



If this is the case, you're probably doing it wrong..... :p

xizar
Nov 7, 2011, 10:30 AM
But where are all the balloons?

soco
Nov 7, 2011, 10:32 AM
There are many people out there that won't be a new product (car, phone, etc) when it's first released, just because of that. Early adopters make things better for late adopters. Yeah you don't get the benefits that the late adopter will get, but you will get the current benefits that are offered.
I agree, wholeheartedly. That's why I bought one and am enjoying it despite it's lacking.

lokiju
Nov 7, 2011, 01:52 PM
Had mine since Friday afternoon and so far it's about what I figured.

I have literally not once taken a food picture as I keep forgetting and from what I've read it doesn't really do anything useful anyway.

It does remind me to get up though while I'm sitting behind a computer all day at work. That alone has been a positive change for me.

I like the sleep cycle tracking and I do want to try and test my activity from the prior day.

I wish you never had to push a button but I get it's limited in what I can do while also maintaining a desired form factor.

The biggest thing I'd love for it to have over anything else would be wireless sync. Bluetooth 4.0 seems like a no brainer here.

After that I'd like to decouple it from iOS only.

Why can't I view all the data I sync to my phone on their website also with my same login? Sometimes I want to just pull up the data on a big screen and review it and it's annoying that I'm stuck using my iPhone or iPad that just stretches it.

But that said, I'm still happy enough with it that I'm not at a point that I'm wondering if I should return it or not.

newbiemacguy128
Nov 7, 2011, 03:03 PM
Got one for my girlfriend and me two days ago. Overall I like it (and she does too). So here's my quick thoughts on it...

Comfort:
Most of the time I forget that its on (which is a good thing), but I did have problems sleeping with it. I sleep with my hand under my pillow and woke up with an aching wrist. The next day I made sure not to do the same. Not really a huge deal imo. I'm assuming future generations of the device will be smaller and wireless.

Move:
So I mainly bought this so that I can track how active I am from day to day. As an extra bonus, my girlfriend and I are constantly monitoring each others activities, policing our lazy habits.

The calorie count, steps, and distance traveled are not always perfect. It calculated 2.26mi on a 2.1mi run, with 260calories burned (probably closer to 200). Another note to add is that small movements seem to add to the steps, a 2 hour car ride for example gave me 86 steps.

Overall, it works for me. In my eyes the small errors in calculations aren't really a big deal when tracking overall daily activity. If everything is wrong to the same degree, then I still get pretty graphs that say yesterday I was more lazy then today. I am constantly doing small things to try to get more steps in to beat my girlfriend =p. Will the motivation last? I don't know, but for now its working.

Sleep:
Not much to say here, it tracked my two nights of sleep pretty accurately. It even noticed I woke up to get a drink of water. The vibration alarm is very pleasant compared to the loud music blaring from my iPhone. As i mentioned before I had one night that I slept on it and woke up with wrist aches, but this can be avoided.

Eat:
From all the reviews, this is the worst part about the Up. It really is, but there is some positive to the eat function. With supportive friends (or girlfriend) you can monitor what each person is eating. I found myself not eating at McDonalds the other day b/c i didn't want to post it for my girlfriend to see. Neither of us are overweight, but we like to stay fit.

Challenges:
I thought this was a bit of a gimmick (kinda like the Nike+ stuff), but since its so easy to accept challenges on the iPhone I actually took the challenge and rubbed it in my significant others face =). If you have friends, it definitely makes it interesting. Otherwise, doing challenges may get a bit boring.

The App:
Right now...really buggy. I can list a handful right off the top of my head. Sometimes it fails to sync (I unplug it and plug it back in multiple times). It forces my iPhones volume to max and I have to hard reset my phone. App doesn't display statistics from time to time...etc etc. Yes, its buggy...but it will get better.

Conclusion:
If I weren't a gadget nut, would I get one now? Probably not. As someone mentioned before this seems like a trial run and the app definitely has a beta-feel to it. Maybe the next firmware/software update will add in much of the functionality I want. Its got me motivated right now, so its doing its job. Whether its worth 100$ or not is up to you.

tkermit
Nov 8, 2011, 05:36 AM
I bought Sleep Cycle just now after reading your post. Let me see how it works tonight.

So? How do you like it? I bought it myself, and it appears to be working well for me. Waking up has been relatively delightful so far – even with only 5 hours of sleep last night. It feels a bit more like waking up on your own than being woken by the alarm. It might all just be due to the placebo effect, but at the very least it got me excited about sleeping again... :p

chr
Nov 8, 2011, 07:55 AM
No idea. Retailers were not even supposed to start selling the Jawbone UP until today, Nov. 6. Some Apple Stores went ahead and sold them anyway though.

Edit: It appears it'll ship soon because it's no longer mentioned as backordered on my ATT order status page.

To answer my own question, I received an email today with tracking information, and the package was shipped Monday. Not bad AT&T, not bad.

foodog
Nov 8, 2011, 10:44 AM
clearly

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The funny thing is, Nike already has a wrist band similar to this one. My wife has one. They just never promoted it and it's dedicated to excersize. All they have to do is update the software, add an acceleromter and rebadge it to be worn all the time and they are done.

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportband

he problem with Nike+ is the cost of the shoes and replacing the sensor every year.

mercury66
Nov 8, 2011, 04:21 PM
FYI, you can save $25 off of the Jawbone UP if you purchase it through ATT using this RetailMeNot link:

http://www.retailmenot.com/out/2776923

And you get priority shipping. They only have black though.

I did not see the discount in my Shopping Cart for this purchase. :mad:
The online AT&T chat says that the UP is not eligible for disco9unt :mad:

MS

liavman
Nov 8, 2011, 04:30 PM
4. Buttons suck and keep getting pressed during sex
5. It loves to grab and pull on women's hair


Ooch ;) You know there are other positions!! :)

Airmark1
Nov 8, 2011, 05:50 PM
I did not see the discount in my Shopping Cart for this purchase. :mad:
The online AT&T chat says that the UP is not eligible for disco9unt :mad:

MS

It definitely worked for me the other day. In fact it worked for 2 of em. They have been shipped. Arriving tomorrow.

Maybe it is now not under discount because it's officially released, and they found out it shouldn't have been discounted to begin with. Or perhaps a location thing.

Lame though.

EricNau
Nov 9, 2011, 05:40 PM
I slept during the day yesterday and it a did a good job tracking my sleep. I took a long time to fall asleep and it caught that as well. Unfortunately I woke up before my band could wake me up due to external noises.
This is either a dream-come-true or a nightmare for moderate insomniacs like myself. I'm not sure which.

I sure find the idea tempting, though.

OafTobark
Nov 9, 2011, 11:34 PM
4. Buttons suck and keep getting pressed during sex


haha, couldn't agree more man.

Shanewilliams
Nov 12, 2011, 08:24 PM
It definitely worked for me the other day. In fact it worked for 2 of em. They have been shipped. Arriving tomorrow.

Maybe it is now not under discount because it's officially released, and they found out it shouldn't have been discounted to begin with. Or perhaps a location thing.

Lame though.

It definitely did work. I added one to my cart to buy and it took the 25% off making it around 75 and some change, but I kept second guessing buying it. I didn't order it. I went it the next day to ATT and was going to buy it with the 25% coupon I had received in the mail, but was told the UP wasn't eligible for it. So, I guess at some point AT&T decided to change their minds!

heyloo
Nov 12, 2011, 10:39 PM
It forces my iPhones volume to max and I have to hard reset my phone.

So that's what's causing my volume to max...! (Unless it isn't) I had the same issue and couldn't figure out what the problem was. For my problem, I found a workaround - I play a song from my iPhone (just initiate the play and turn it off), and the volume goes back to norm. Try it out :)

G5isAlive
Nov 14, 2011, 11:13 AM
Cons:

4. Buttons suck and keep getting pressed during sex
5. It loves to grab and pull on women's hair


button (singular) and... you do know you can take it off during sex right? since it doesn't really monitor that activity. smiles. or at least not yet.

in my experience (both in taking it on and off) the UP is more of a hint on what is to come than a mature product (no sexual innuendos intended). It does an okay job and provides reasonable data for data freaks like me.

RMo
Nov 21, 2011, 01:34 AM
really? theres two different button combos...
press&hold and then double press&hold

I know I'm late to this party, but I didn't literally mean that there were lots of buttons to push--just that you had to do lots of pressing of the button to tell it what you were doing ("OK, I'm sleeping now!"). Or so I was told.

i'm sure your vibrator has more buttons, and I don't hear you complaining.

Never said I was female (although perhaps dudes can use them too...).

G5isAlive
Nov 21, 2011, 10:06 AM
I know I'm late to this party, but I didn't literally mean that there were lots of buttons to push--just that you had to do lots of pressing of the button to tell it what you were doing ("OK, I'm sleeping now!"). Or so I told.

or so you were told? If you have no direct experience why are you commenting?

I own and use one. You push the button to signal sleep. Push it again when awake. Twice a day. Is that a lot? For some maybe, for others not.

chr
Nov 22, 2011, 11:55 AM
I returned my Up today; I had used it for a week and a half and it seemed accurate enough, but the button on it was extremely bad. It would randomly register as pressed when I was doing normal day-to-day thing, and it wouldn't register every time I tried to push it.

For example: when I would be asleep, the band would swap from sleep mode to wake mode randomly, buzzing and waking me up at 3am. It just isn't worth the hassle in its current form.