D: All Things Digital 2005

[MacRumors]

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The Wall Street Journal's D: All Things Digital Conference (http://d.wsj.com/) takes place May 22-24, 2005. This "executive" conference takes a unqiue format:

The third edition of D: All Things Digital takes place May 22-24, 2005. It'll be three days of unscripted, frank interviews with the leaders of the digital revolution, responding live onstage to the kinds of tough, smart questions that only The Wall Street Journal’s Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher can ask.

Speakers include Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and many other industry leaders. Steve Jobs has participated in previous years. Last year's event coincided with Airport Express and iTunse 4.6 announcements (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/20040607140609.shtml).

There is some speculation that an Airport Remote (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/05/20050516163917.shtml) could be in the works, and also some rumblings of video-enabled Airports. Direct coverage of the event is usually very limited, but we will try to link/quote any available information that becomes available.

[PlaceofDis]

awesome, wonder what if anything apple has up their sleeves for this year's event

[poundsmack]

i am pretty sure we will see something cool come out of apple for this one

[~Shard~]

Let's hope Jobs gives us something to whet our apetities before WWDC.... :cool:

[xli_ne]

I just bought an airport express, so there will probably be something new. :rolleyes:

[Bear]

Between the deal that you get a $30 gift certificate with the AirPort Express if you buy it through the iTunes Music Store link and the fact that several stores seem to be out of stock of the AirPort Express - yeah expect an update by the end of the month I'd say.

So I kinda need another one...do I buy it now, or do I wait? Maybe Apple will drop the price on the current one for those that don't want/need the new features.

[m-dogg]

Walter Mossberg is a huge Apple fan - I don't think I've ever seen a negative review from him of an Apple product before - So it will probably be a very pro-Apple environment for Steve...

Sounds like it will be a very interesting discussion though - I wonder how much of that wil be available to see/hear/read?

[d.perel]

Walter Mossberg is a huge Apple fan - I don't think I've ever seen a negative review from him of an Apple product before - So it will probably be a very pro-Apple environment for Steve...

Sounds like it will be a very interesting discussion though - I wonder how much of that wil be available to see/hear/read?
Yeah, I'm not sure that he will be that striking of a question-provider for this crowd, but then again, what's a little good press?

[Porchland]

I'm told by someone involved with the conference that Steve Jobs is going to wear a yellow track suit and lop off Bill Gates noggin' with a Hatori Hanzo. Seems a little over the top to me.

[840quadra]

I hope if Steve is going to unveil something new, it comes to us unexpected! A surprise every once in a while is good to have

[ZLurker]

with a airport remote i would by a airport express with airtunes, if not a couple of them! :p

[iJaz]

I hope if Steve is going to unveil something new, it comes to us unexpected! A surprise every once in a while is good to have
I guess ThinkSecret will ruin the surprises for us, as usual these days :cool:

[dongmin]

with a airport remote i would by a airport express with airtunes, if not a couple of them! :pYup, same here. Just moved into a new apartment and I need a 'controller' for my bedroom. i can see apple packaging this remote with a airport express for $200. At minimum, I see the express dropping below $100.

wish list:

1. airtunes remote
2. video stream to airport express AV
3. video ipods
4. open developer kit for the remote so 3rd party apps could be controlled by the remote as well (think eyeTV, powerpoint, etc.).

[davidgeller]

I'll try and blog. Though, with the speed at which things happen, anything truly interesting is bound to be shared by others, perhaps even before the event. Jobs speaks at a dinner event Sunday evening. If you're on this list and going - drop me a note. Perhaps we can hook up. I'll be the one with the PowerBook. :)

[x86isslow]

I hope we get to see a remote! :)

Someone might want to correct the title: D: All Things Digtial :D

[spaceballl]

I really hope they release a new one! I'm going to buy a new iMac with Airport express in the near future. This release would be perfect timing.

Kevin

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I ordered my Airport Express minutes after its announcement last year. I really hope something equally cool is released this year, even if I'm broke and would not be able to buy it just yet...

iPhone, anyone...?

[Object-X]

Steve won't spill the beans about the Cell chip until the Developers Conference. Sun is going to announce the big plan on June 1 and Jobs will show us what it's really all about during his keynote.

Remember Job's The Next Wave of the Internet (http://www.sun.com/june1st/flash.html) from 2001?

Here it comes...

[aswitcher]

Tablet Mac ;)

Check out the latest RocketBoom for some jests as MS involving Apple

http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/05/rb_05_may_16.html

[loneAzdgari]

When the hell are we getting new iBooks?! I'm selling my eMac now so I'll be computer-less until they update the iBook line!

BTW, Spelling mistake in title: Digtial should be Digital. :p

[runninmac]

Hmm this and WWDC in the same 2-3 week period this could be great press for apple, and if they start showing there ads with this good press it could be awsome for there computer section.

[Abstract]

I hope if Steve is going to unveil something new, it comes to us unexpected! A surprise every once in a while is good to have

Anything to "one-up" Bill is fantastic. If its innovative, Bill has to applaud and put a big smile on his face for the cameras, get jealous, and think to himself, "Why didn't WE think of that?!" :cool:

[rdowns]

awesome, wonder what if anything apple has up their sleeves for this year's event

iTMS subscription service
Bye-bye Napster
Yahoo, we hardly knew you

[w_parietti22]

Yup, same here. Just moved into a new apartment and I need a 'controller' for my bedroom. i can see apple packaging this remote with a airport express for $200. At minimum, I see the express dropping below $100.

wish list:

1. airtunes remote
2. video stream to airport express AV
3. video ipods
4. open developer kit for the remote so 3rd party apps could be controlled by the remote as well (think eyeTV, powerpoint, etc.).

Sounds Good, but we need to save some things for WWDC, but I guess that leaves the iBooks, Mac Mini, and the Tri 3ghz PM! :D

PS- I have to post this even though this is completely off topic, but today in the Seattle Times there was an artivle about the Xbox 360 and in Japan they asked people who they thought the consol was from and people answered mostly Apple which I guess made MS excited. Hopefully MS doesn't copy apple. On that note, is apples silver and white exteriors patented. What about the dock?

[mafwoj]

I can just hear Steve now:
"last year I was asked about video, ... so here's the new Airport Express *HD*"

(don't quote me on the HD part, though it would be awesome)

[GregA]

Steve won't spill the beans about the Cell chip until the Developers Conference. Sun is going to announce the big plan on June 1 and Jobs will show us what it's really all about during his keynote.

Remember Job's The Next Wave of the Internet (http://www.sun.com/june1st/flash.html) from 2001?

Here it comes...Hi Object-X...

I don't get what you're implying. Are you saying that Jobs will show us what Sun's big plan is all about? If so, when - during this Sunday talk, or the WWDC?

The link you give goes to Sun's website regarding June 1, 2005 announcement - how does it relate to Jobs' "Next Wave"??

Sorry if I've missed something obvious here!
Thanks
Greg
edit: and is there a relationship between Sun and IBM-Cell and Apple?

[virividox]

I just bought an airport express, so there will probably be something new. :rolleyes:

lol yeah same here

[BWhaler]

I'm going again this year, and I really can't wait. Last year was awesome.

Anyway, I wouldn't get your hopes up for another announcement at the D Conference.

What hasn't been reported was before Jobs announced the AEpress, he mentioned that the rules of the D Conference are no product announcements, but they made an exception for him.

Now, Walt and Jobs are close, and maybe they will make an exception again. But this will make it tough for WSJ to enforce the rule for other companies moving forward.

But I am hopeful. I'll buy a remote on day 1, especially if it has a screen and I can pick songs, artists and playlists.

[Object-X]

Hi Object-X...

I don't get what you're implying. Are you saying that Jobs will show us what Sun's big plan is all about? If so, when - during this Sunday talk, or the WWDC?

The link you give goes to Sun's website regarding June 1, 2005 announcement - how does it relate to Jobs' "Next Wave"??

Sorry if I've missed something obvious here!
Thanks
Greg
edit: and is there a relationship between Sun and IBM-Cell and Apple?

Yes, there is a relationship between Sun, IBM, Apple, Sony, Redhat, and others all revolving around the Cell. Apple has been slowly transforming itself into an Internet services company. iTunes and the iPod are only the first step into this kind of distributed system. The "Holy Grail" if you will, is to link all of these emerging digital technologies into one grand complex system that seemlessly integrates. Phones, TVs, your car, PDAs, gaming devices, gaming consoles, ect. all networked and commicating with each other. The Cell chip is going to find it's way into all kinds of devices and I believe that a whole new programming paradigm is about to come into existance to support this, it's called Internet services.

This new revolution, if I can call it that, emphasises the system, not the "Cell"; it is interconnected and interrelated. It will allow products and services from various companies and various industries to interconnect. It will rely on open standards and no one company will control it. Microsoft's days are numbered; they will have to support it or they will wither and die. This "New Wave" will simply wash over them if they resist it and keep pushing a proprietary technology model.

Consider internet services for a moment. iTunes is an application that uses internet content inside. When you connect to the iTunes music store you are accessing an internet service (which Apple provides). This is where the money is, not in selling you boxed software that you install on your computer, those days are almost over. Apple is literally going to make billions providing this service; and it is only the first.

Though Apple has primarily been a computer company, that identity is going to change, and is changing already. Presently, Apple is making almost as much money off of iPod/iTunes sales as they are on computers. This will only increase and computer sales will not be as important. But Apple wants the whole music distribution market; and it is only the beginning. I see Apple going for the whole digital media distrubution pie; this includes movies and television. They can't control the content of the media, but they can control the distribution technology. Apple doesn't make music they just give people the ability to aquire it and consume it. And this is not just DVDs or home movies, but the technology that will run movie theaters, broadcast stations, and the like. Imagine digital projectors recieving content via the internet, and Apple technology running the show. Or how about going to your local theater to watch a U2 concert, live, and in brilliant HD clairity. Now why was U2 promoting their album with Apple? To get a U2 iPod? Think different my friend! Chances are some television content you watched today was created with Final Cut Pro software on a Powermac G5, stored on an Xserve RAID, and controlled with a G5 Xserve. These tools are the building blocks to control the technology that controls the media. Everyone is looking at when will Apple come out with a video iPod or offer downloadable movies, but are distracted from what Apple is really doing; that is, laying the groundwork to control the whole media distribution business. Apple wants to control the distribution technology...all of it. They will use their hardware, software, and internet services to do it. This is where the money is for them.

Back to the Cell. The Cell chip is about to come out into the forefront of all our conversations. It is IBMs answer to Intel and it will be everywhere in this New Wave of Internet. Right now the internet is your computer talking to millions of other computers. But the next "Internet" is your phone, your TV, your car, your PDA, your watch, your anything digital, connected and integrated. The computer is going to become just one more Cell in the system.

Think about iTunes on a phone for a minute. What is it exactly? A piece of software that lets you access an internet service via your phone. Imagine being able to access all kinds of internet services via your Quicktime viewer, which by the way, is on how many million PCs? Expect Jobs to tell you at the keynote. What did that comment about "with H.264 this changes everything" mean? Now, with H.264 Quicktime technology, you can go full screen with a click of the button. Great for movies, but wait, wow, you mean you can now have a "OS X" environment, running Apple internet services, and operating in full screen on your PC? Yes! Imagine it. I can. :eek:

--side note: Why did Adobe buy Macromedia? To aquire Flash and the new Flex programming technology. This will allow Adobe to do essentially the same thing.

Now, imagine Apple software running on all kinds of digital devices that have the Cell chip, and imagine all the internet services accessible via this software, and imagine all the money Apple is going to be making because they have the technology, the software, the hardware, and the infastructure to make it all work seemlessly.

Now, I beleive that Sun is going to annouce this distributed Cell concept June 1, and Steve Jobs at the keynote 5 days later is going to show you how Apple is going to lead this technology revolution. Oh, there will be others, but "Apple is going to one of the 10 most profitable internet companies in the next 10 years!" - Steve Jobs 5 years ago. Notice he said "Internet" companies, not "Computer" companies. I believe that Apple, with the release of Tiger, and the technologies contained in it, along with the iPod and iTunes, and soon to be announced products and services, is going to make that prediction a reality. I expect him to have a lot to say about it this year to the developers that will be writing the software that will make this happen.

Will he talk about it at All Things Digital? Maybe he will cryptically mention it, but I think he will save the real meat for the keynote; now only 3 weeks away. I'm excited. I really expect BIG things from Apple. :)

[GregA]

Thanks for the post Object-X. I like a lot of it - but I don't agree with many things :)

Your post looks to me like IBMs current philosophy, extended to several partners to really make an interesting new approach.Yes, there is a relationship between Sun, IBM, Apple, Sony, Redhat, and others all revolving around the Cell.
IBM has really reinvented itself in the past 10 years. In around 1995, they stopped thinking "IBM software on IBM OS on IBM computer designed with IBM parts", and started making any of their own products work great with everybody elses products. Suddenly, no matter what systems you had installed, getting IBM involved could make things run better. And if you happened to choose all IBM parts so much the better.

I think that's a great philosophy for the consumer. It also worked for IBM because rather than buying their own BIOS chips (for instance), if it was cheaper to get them elsewhere they did. Anything uncompetitive in IBM was not artificially sustained.

Anyway, now IBM works with Redhat. And they make the PPC970 for Apple. And Cell chips for Sony (and CPUs for the new XBox). And much more.

Redhat works on multiple platforms so I can see them working with IBM on an open competitive system. Sony products largely are made to interact with competitors products, though their history is slightly more controlled when trying to protect copywrite (ATRAC instead of MP3? Minidisc not linking to computers?).

I can see Sun being interested - but I can't find any info on Sun working with IBM on Cell etc, if you have a link I'd be interested.

You're also using cell and system in 2 different ways. One is the cell chip, operating in PS3s soon. The other is cells in a system - where every fridge, phone, car, computer, TV, music player etc is part of the internet (a 'cell' in the internet), and it doesn't matter what chips they use to do that.

Though Apple has primarily been a computer company, that identity is going to change, and is changing already. Presently, Apple is making almost as much money off of iPod/iTunes sales as they are computers. This will only increase. But Apple wants the whole enchilada and music is only the beginning.This is where IBMs philosophy of anything working with anything doesn't fit with Apple's. Apple does want the whole enchilada, and that doesn't suit this idea.

For Apple to fit this idea, it would (roughly speaking) make:
- the iPod work with any music software, AND play windows media
- iTunes work with any media player, and any music store,
- iTMS work with any music software.
- Windows XP would run on its computers, and
- Final Cut Pro would be released on Windows.
- (and lots of other software/hardware things I haven't mentioned)

In doing that, some of Apple's products would see increased usage. Other products would decrease usage. In the end, hopefully the profitability would go up or stay the same.

This model results in people not being locked in to any one vendor. If someone releases something better than an iPod people will buy it, and keep on using iTunes while it's the best music player. If iTMS isn't available in one country, iTunes will buy music from another store.

It keeps EVERYONE on their toes, continually making their stuff work better. And it may still be true that "an iPod with iTunes on OSX on a Mac" is the most seamless and satisfying experience.

Apple DOESN'T do this. I applaud releasing iTunes for Windows, and open source stuff, and working with standards bodies for Quicktime/MPEG4. For Apple to join the effort you describe takes a philosophy change. That doesn't mean they can't still work with it in their own way (after all, the philosophy invites everyone to participate - MS, Apple, Redhat, Intel etc).
Imagine being able to access all kinds of internet services via your Quicktime viewer, which by the way, is on how many million PCs? Expect Jobs to tell you at the keynote. What did that comment about "with H.264 this changes everything" mean? Now, with H.264 Quicktime technology, you can go full screen with a click of the button. Great for movies, but wait, wow, you mean you can now have a "OS X" environment, running Apple internet services, and operating in full screen on your PC? Yes! Imagine it. I can. :eek:Quicktime does seem to be a good entry point for OSX applications (cocoa and carbon) on the PC. Is that what you mean by OSX environment?

What do people gain from this though?imagine Apple software running on all kinds of digital devices that have the Cell chip, and imagine all the internet services accessible via this software, and imagine all the money Apple is going to be making because they have the technology, the software, the hardware, and the infastructure to make it all work seemlessly. Apple has a choice - they can either say "buy it ALL from us - software, hardware, infrastructure". OR they can say "use our software anywhere, use our hardware anywhere, use our infrastructure - and if you want use all 3". I think the 2nd would make more money, but that's their choice.

It's interesting that the PC industry has much of this choice already. Multiple hardware vendors, multiple chip sets, multiple graphics cards, multiple software suppliers... if one company has a great new product people buy it. The thing is the GLUE that holds it together is Windows. That gives Microsoft control (Intel doesn't have any control - AMD is there, and Windows XP programs could easily run on other processors with some emulation).

As such, it would be valuable to remove that control point - and have an open API popularly supported. Could IBM/Sun/Redhat/Sony be thinking of that? Is Apple's Cocoa worth considering? - or is Linux the easy answer?
Steve Jobs at the keynote 5 days later is going to show you how Apple is going to lead this technology revolution.Is this a revolution that can have a leader?

Well, I guess we'll learn more in 3 weeks!? ;-)

[speleoterra]

Yes, there is a relationship between Sun, IBM, Apple, Sony, Redhat, and others all revolving around the Cell. )

object-x is right on. Apple is also working with Boeing on the future.

Apple is going where MS doesn't have a clue about; "the road ahead"

..and as for "leaders of the digital revolution" Bill Gates doesn't deserve to be in that club.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." -Bill Gates :eek:

[swissmann]

I wonder if things get heated between Bill and Steve. I'm assuming they are all in the same room.

[Rod Rod]

I wonder if things get heated between Bill and Steve. I'm assuming they are all in the same room.
I highly doubt things would get heated between Gates and Jobs. Back in the day they had a rich neighbor (http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=A_Rich_Neighbor_Named_Xerox.txt&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium&search=rich%20neighbor) who had a TV set. So they're not that different.

[~Shard~]

I highly doubt things would get heated between Gates and Jobs. Back in the day they had a rich neighbor (http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=A_Rich_Neighbor_Named_Xerox.txt&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium&search=rich%20neighbor) who had a TV set. So they're not that different.

Nice story, thanks, I enjoyed that!

[Object-X]

I can see Sun being interested - but I can't find any info on Sun working with IBM on Cell etc, if you have a link I'd be interested.

First, I am not talking about partnerships specifically; though these may indeed happen, for example Sony and Apple seems likely, my main point is about a paradigm shift that is going to take place across the industry. Companies like Apple, Sun, IBM, Redhat, ect. understand this and it’s about to take shape. IBMs primary interest in this are it’s chips, which according to them, will find their way into all kinds of devices. So, please don’t misunderstand, this is not about Apple inventing this, but Apple being one of several leading companies pioneering this new technological paradigm.

Apple is just one company. They are good at what they do because they stay focused on their core competencies. These are, have been, and will continue to be their focus: creative graphic publishing, home, music, video, education, and science. This is where Apple has been focusing their efforts. If you look, these industries are where you see racks of Xserves, Xserve RAID, Xsan, super computers, professional software, and where you see eMac, iMacs, and iLife. I am simply extrapolating out from here where Apple’s nich will be in this new Internet economy.

You're also using cell and system in 2 different ways. One is the cell chip, operating in PS3s soon. The other is cells in a system - where every fridge, phone, car, computer, TV, music player etc is part of the internet (a 'cell' in the internet), and it doesn't matter what chips they use to do that.

I use the term Cell to refer to any node on the network, whether it actually has a Cell chip or not, the concept is the same. The Cell chip will be the focal point of this new kind of thinking because it will be everywhere. The chip being everywhere creates the idea of an integrated system; but this system will be composed of many different technologies, the Cell being one of them.

Unlike Microsoft, which wants to control everything with their propietary technologies, Apple will continue to commit their technologies in the core areas i described above. Other companies will focus in their respective areas. Take Linux for example, you will find Linux in a lot of embedded systems. It is very popular for this purpose. You will not find Apple trying to create software or port their OS to work with embedded systems. Why? It’s not what they do. Redhat, on the other hand will. This is just an example, but both companies are going to embrace this distributed “Cell” paradigm. Watch this (http://www.redhat.com/f/mov/choice_small.mov) Notice the use of 1984 and Cell metaphors. What does the 1984 sequence remind you of? That’s right...Apple’s first commercial. The Cell is a metaphore, and the integration of many Cells, performing a variety of functions, comprise a system. Think of IBMs Cell chip like an embryonic stem cell. Embryonic cells can become just about any kind of cell in the body. Apple will take these Cells and make them into one thing, Sun into another, Sony yet another; but all will form an integrated system that will seemlessly join together.

This is where IBMs philosophy of anything working with anything doesn't fit with Apple's. Apple does want the whole enchilada, and that doesn't suit this idea.

So, following my logic and looking at what Apple is already doing in the music industry, it is my prediction that video and TV production are Apple’s next target. Their software, their server hardware, their internet service strategy all lead me to believe they want to be the big player in this segment of the market, not all markets. I am not saying Apple wants to rule everything, only their core markets, leaving other companies to follow their own path. IBM sells chips to everyone, but all will support and build this “Cell” based distributed system, integrating various technologies and digital devices into one giant wireless distributed Internet. Apple will control a significant market in distribution of media, but having their technology on 1.5 billion cell phones, or in every home with a TV, in the millions of cars on the road, on devices hanging off of every human appendage, they stand to make a great deal of money and be a leader in this New Wave Internet.

Apple DOESN'T do this. I applaud releasing iTunes for Windows, and open source stuff, and working with standards bodies for Quicktime/MPEG4. For Apple to join the effort you describe takes a philosophy change. That doesn't mean they can't still work with it in their own way (after all, the philosophy invites everyone to participate - MS, Apple, Redhat, Intel etc).

My predictions are that Apple will unveil their strategy to be on of the 10 most profitable Internet companies in the coming months; the developers conference will be key. Note that Jobs said “one of” not the “only” one. He realizes that others will embrace this strategy too. Apple is just going to focus on what they do best; which is integrate software and hardware into a seemless system.

Is it possible there will be strategic alliances, say between Sony and Apple? Sure, this would make sense, especially with the Playstation 3. Who is the number one leader in console gaming? Who has the worst platform for gaming? What if Sony and Apple join together and offer each other what the other doesn’t have? Sony gives Apple a gaming angle, Apple gives Sony home entertainment integration software for the PS3, and now has their technology in every home with a PS3 and a Sony HDTV. You get the picture. Apple makes a Cell based workstation for developing the games and Sony makes playing PS3 games on OS X possible. Or how about Apple licensing their iTunes DRM to Sony to put iTunes on a Sony Walkman? Sony cuts Apple a deal on their music library, iTunes runs on Sony phones as well as Motorola, Apple gains a major partner in the music business, locks Microsoft out of music and checks their console gaming strategy all at once. Consumers now have a choice. As iPod sales start to diminish and Apple starts to make more money on the sale of music, they will start to form these alliances.

For Apple to fit this idea, it would (roughly speaking) make:
- the iPod work with any music software, AND play windows media
- iTunes work with any media player, and any music store,
- iTMS work with any music software.
- Windows XP would run on its computers, and
- Final Cut Pro would be released on Windows.
- (and lots of other software/hardware things I haven't mentioned)

So, is it possible for iPod to work with any music software? I think this question is backwards thinking. iTunes will be licensed to work on other players, but Apple will have the distribution market, which is where the money will be; right now the money is in the player, but the iTunes store sales will soon eclipse this. Gates can say what he wants, but don't let that fool you, he knows, as well as Apple that iPod sales will eventually drop, but Apple has already cornered the market in the distribution of music. Who cares if iPod sales fade? Apple will be making billions on the sale of music. They will happly port their iTunes client to any platform that wants it, and trust me, they will all want it. Right now Apple is happly making tons of cash on the iPod; but as soon as those numbers start to drop, out will come the licensing agreements. Sony seems to me to be the most logical partner for Apple.

Quicktime does seem to be a good entry point for OSX applications (cocoa and carbon) on the PC. Is that what you mean by OSX environment?

Is it possible for Apple to port it’s software to Windows? Maybe, but I think Apple’s strategy is to put internet services on Windows, not content creation software. Apple Powermac workstations will be a very special type of computer. I can imagine something like Safari being ported to Windows and having cool OS X like applications running in Quicktime or in the browser, but as far as OS X and Apple content creation software is concerned, I think porting OS X to x86 is more likely. Apple will put OS X head to head with Windows and win. Now is not the time for this, but soon; OS X is stable and proven and is years ahead of Windows. As Apple’s financial picture changes, I think you will see OS X running on the Cell and other chips and their content creation software will only run on OS X technology. Think Core Audio, Core Image, and H.264, these technologies are part of OS X not Windows.

Is this a revolution that can have a leader?

Nothing stays the same. The computer industry 10 years from now will not look the same. I believe Apple is going to go from a 3% nich player to well over 50%; but, and this is a BIG BUT, that percentage will not be calculated based on OS alone; it will be calculated on how much Apple technologies are running on all of these digital devices everywhere you look. The computer will not go away, but it will loose it’s importance and be relegated to more specific tasks; it will not be as important as it is today. Technologies like iTunes and Quicktime will be much more important, especially to Apple’s bottom line because they will form the backbone of Apple’s internet service strategy. Right now you look at the IT world and you see computers and OS market share, 10 years from now you are going to see internet services and the underlying technologies that run them. Apple will be on top and Microsoft will be in the single digits. That’s is my prediction.

[Object-X]

Wow, look at this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1485541,00.html) As I was writing my previous post my predictions were coming true. This was just posted a minute ago.

"Corporation begins trial of programme download technology that could revolutionise the way we watch TV"

What have I been saying about controlling the distribution of media? This is what I believe Apple will want to do next and the market seems to think it's viable. iTunes for TV. Here you go. Apple has already established they can do this. How many Macs are floating around BBC I wonder?

[maelstromr]

Am I missing something or do we already have a remote...from apple's website:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-780-5009/WebObjects/EducationIndividual.woa/71005/wo/oz14Sglgq8sj2GAVXWn1mkVBPh6/27.0.0.11.1.0.6.9.3.19.0.1.1.1.1.2.1.0.3

Not ideal, but still...

[AidenShaw]

....I believe that a whole new programming paradigm is about to come into existance to support this, it's called Internet services.

This has been undergoing development for several years, and is usually known as "Web Services" or "Service Oriented Architecture" (SOA).

Standards bodies such at the Global Grid Forum (http://www.ggf.org), Globus (http://www.globus.org/) and the W3C (see Web Services Description Language (WSDL) 1.1 (http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl), a standard submitted by IBM, Ariba and Microsoft) have been working at defining the standards needed for the "internet plumbing" to support this model.

Microsoft has been a leading driver of these standards, along with IBM, HP, Apple and many others. (See Web Service Basics (http://msdn.microsoft.com/webservices/understanding/webservicebasics/default.aspx))

One of the great features of the latest Visual Studio (and .Net) is how it can automatically generate the Web Services protocols needed for an application. The programmer merely selects a "Web Service Project" template, and all the XML and HTTP code and hooks are generated automatically. Other IDEs also have similar capabilities.

So, when Apple's WebOjects generates a web service, it's done using the SOAP and WSDL that Microsoft helped standardize. http://www.apple.com/webobjects/web_services.html


Microsoft's days are numbered; they will have to support it or they will wither and die. This "New Wave" will simply wash over them if they resist it and keep pushing a proprietary technology model.

Perhaps you should look at Microsoft's strong positions in the various standards groups before making such a biased, ignorant statement.

[MontyZ]

Jobs will definitely announce that 2006 will be the Year of the Two-Button Mouse. :D

[wordmunger]

I guess ThinkSecret will ruin the surprises for us, as usual these days :cool:
Yeah, that really stinks when you hang around rumor web sites and then they publish rumors. :rolleyes:

[Applespider]

Yeah, that really stinks when you hang around rumor web sites and then they publish rumors. :rolleyes:

The trouble is that they're not speculative rumours but factual leaks. I like rumours and speculation but knowing 99% of everything before events makes them a little dull. I hang around here more for the Mac hints, troubleshooting skills and community. The rumours are way down the list - and I avoid those threads which start 'TS predict' around Keynote time... :o

[wordmunger]

The trouble is that they're not speculative rumours but factual leaks. I like rumours and speculation but knowing 99% of everything before events makes them a little dull. I hang around here more for the Mac hints, troubleshooting skills and community. The rumours are way down the list - and I avoid those threads which start 'TS predict' around Keynote time... :o


I, too, hang around more for the tips/community discussion than the rumors. However, I much prefer factual leaks to "rumors." When I'm planning a computer purchase, thousands of dollars can be at stake. Yes, it's "fun" to see Steve surprise us with a new product, but I'd rather know in advance so I don't make a stupid, expensive decision.

[~Shard~]

Yeah, that really stinks when you hang around rumor web sites and then they publish rumors. :rolleyes:

I don't know, that might be a bit too revolutionary for him...

[aswitcher]

Yeah, that really stinks when you hang around rumor web sites and then they publish rumors. :rolleyes:

Maybe we need to legislate for spoiler warnings or soemthing for all rumor sites Something like "WARNING PAGE CONTAINS SPECULATION AND SPOLIERS THAT MAY RUIN HYPE AND SURPRISE OF CORPORATION NEW AND UPGRADED PRODUCT RELEASES"

And in small type "May save you a bundle of cash and from the shock of buying something at older inflated prices that just got superceded."

[GregA]

Okay, so you're talking about what you think is generally going to happen in the industry. I thought you were implying these things were happening

Sun is going to announce the big plan on June 1 and Jobs will show us what it's really all about during his keynote. Yes, there is a relationship between Sun, IBM, Apple, Sony, Redhat, and others all revolving around the Cell.Have to be careful with meanings of words - like "relationship" and "cell"
First, I am not talking about partnerships specifically; though these may indeed happen
<snip, and>
I use the term Cell to refer to any node on the network, whether it actually has a Cell chip or not, the concept is the same. Okay, it's a little clearer now.
Right now you look at the IT world and you see computers and OS market share, 10 years from now you are going to see internet services and the underlying technologies that run them. Apple will be on top and Microsoft will be in the single digits. That’s is my prediction.A far different prediction from a big announcement coming up in the next 3 weeks from a consortium of vendors, to revolutionise the computing world - which I thought you were saying.

[houttbe]

If Apple could offer a remote control for iTunes (later on also for images/video) like the one from Sonos (http://www.sonos.com/products/controller/?tref=prod2) they would wipe the floor!

[AidenShaw]

http://www.sun.com/june1st

Beware though, it downloads some kind of virus to your browser....

[iJaz]

I, too, hang around more for the tips/community discussion than the rumors. However, I much prefer factual leaks to "rumors." When I'm planning a computer purchase, thousands of dollars can be at stake. Yes, it's "fun" to see Steve surprise us with a new product, but I'd rather know in advance so I don't make a stupid, expensive decision.
I also appreciate facts rather than rumors. It is better to now that it will only be 2.7GHz single core than hearing rumors about 3.0GHz dual core and then be oh, so disappointed. But if it is illegally acquired information, then it is not so good, but that is another discussion.

[Aaon]

Anybody have any news on what Steve talked about today at the D conference?

[dongmin]

Anybody have any news on what Steve talked about today at the D conference?I'm guessing no new products, since apple.com is the same as before and there's nothing in the news wires. Oh well, WWDC is only 2 weeks away...

[Platform]

Apple: Gives us something new that we have not expected nor seen before...something NEW ;)

[davidgeller]

From the All Things Digitial Conference, hosted by The Wall Street Jounral, Steve Job previewed iTunes 4.9 which is due out within 60 days. It will include podcasting subscription services and an editorially managed storefront (or help organize and rate feeds). Looks like a nice addition to the product.[I]

[buseman]

From the All Things Digitial Conference, hosted by The Wall Street Jounral, Steve Job previewed iTunes 4.9 which is due out within 60 days. It will include podcasting subscription services and an editorially managed storefront (or help organize and rate feeds). Looks like a nice addition to the product.[I]

Interesting. Let's hope it cleans up the many inconsistencies introduced in 4.8 and brings VBR AAC to the table as well.

[MontyZ]

From the All Things Digitial Conference, hosted by The Wall Street Jounral, Steve Job previewed iTunes 4.9 which is due out within 60 days. It will include podcasting subscription services and an editorially managed storefront (or help organize and rate feeds). Looks like a nice addition to the product.[I]
Podcasting subscriptions would be very interesting to see in the next iTunes.