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hafr
Nov 7, 2011, 02:43 PM
I've got quite a few, ehm, home ripped movies that I put in 720p XviD format ;) But they're all horrible to watch via ATV2. They lag, they buffer, the sound is choppy and so on. The same movies with higher bitrate in 720p x264 format play perfectly.

I'm guessing the ATV2 just doesn't play well with the XviD codec, but I just want to make sure :) Is there something that I've missed in order to be able to watch these films, or do you just have to give up the HD XviD rips if you want to use the ATV2?



spacepower7
Nov 8, 2011, 12:09 AM
It's 2011 almost 2012, why are you using Xvid?

You can find plenty of your, ehm, home movies in x264 720p. They are also more likely to play on other iOS devices too.

Xvid was great for many years with DVD players having compatibility but nowadays many media players and game systems play x264, so it's becoming more compatible and universal.

I'm looking at my gear and I have 4 devices that play x264 and only 2 that play Xvid, one a WDTV (that plays both) and the other is an old DVD player that I haven't used in a year. Of course these don't include computers ;)

AppleTV and iOS play x264 much better than Xvid. Ditch the Xvid and stick with x264 and you won't have to worry about these issues.

hafr
Nov 8, 2011, 02:22 AM
It's 2011 almost 2012, why are you using Xvid?

You can find plenty of your, ehm, home movies in x264 720p. They are also more likely to play on other iOS devices too.

Xvid was great for many years with DVD players having compatibility but nowadays many media players and game systems play x264, so it's becoming more compatible and universal.

I'm looking at my gear and I have 4 devices that play x264 and only 2 that play Xvid, one a WDTV (that plays both) and the other is an old DVD player that I haven't used in a year. Of course these don't include computers ;)

AppleTV and iOS play x264 much better than Xvid. Ditch the Xvid and stick with x264 and you won't have to worry about these issues.

I have quite a few of them since I used to use an old netbook connected to the TV, and it can't handle x264 :) But I guess I'll just recode them, no big deal. I was just wondering if by chance it was me who was missing something :)

spacepower7
Nov 9, 2011, 12:45 AM
All the apple iOS devices have graphics hardware that decodes the x264 video, reducing the strain on the processor and battery life, for everything is except the AppleTV of course.

The thing with Xvid, is that it never became an "official standard" so besides some DVD players and a few media streamers, there isn't much support.

In most circumstances, consumer electronics companies with content deals with "Hollywood" only support x264 but not Xvid. Ie all iTunes videos have always been h.264

Most of the companies that sell hardware that plays Xvid are WD, Seagate, etc, whose business goals conflict with "Hollywood" ie profit from hardware sales not media sales.

Ie Sony owns a movie studio therefore I have never seen a Sony DVD play that could play Xvid.

Long story short, it's like a cartel, h.264 gets hardware acceleration because some of the movie studios and tech companies own patents and get license fees from h.264 whereas Xvid is open source and doesn't support copy protection.

This is over simplyfling the issues but you see the point.

I wouldn't doubt if there are contractual obligations that Mac OSX doesn't support Xvid without 3rd party plugins or software. It's all about money ;)

So yes, x264 is the way to go with all apple products.