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MacRumors
Nov 17, 2011, 10:17 AM
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RazorianFly points (http://www.razorianfly.com/2011/11/16/ichat-heading-to-ios-code-teardown-says-likely/) to a Tweet (http://twitter.com/#!/Gojohnnyboi/status/136937522130452480) from developer John Heaton revealing strings within the iOS code making reference to iChat-related services such as Jabber and AIM that are not currently supported directly by Apple on iOS.

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Speculation has naturally turned to the possibility that Apple is working on an application to integrate full iChat capabilities into iOS, although that may be something of a stretch. Rather, it seems more likely that the code is part of a general IMService framework to support all of Apple's messaging protocols regardless of whether support for the actual services is included on a given platform.

Apple currently supports a variety of messaging and video communication services on its Mac OS X and iOS platforms, using a somewhat complex array of applications. On iOS, Apple's new iMessage service is handled through the Messages app that also handles SMS and MMS on the iPhone, while FaceTime is handled through the Phone app itself on the iPhone and a standalone app on the iPod touch and iPad 2.

On Mac OS X, iChat handles basic messaging services such as AIM and Jabber, as well as audio and video chat capabilities of those services, while FaceTime is supported in the form of a separate application. iMessage is not yet supported on Mac OS X, although code strings and rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/31/airplay-mirroring-and-imessage-coming-to-mac-os-x-lion/) have suggested that the feature will be coming to the Mac.

Article Link: Code Strings Hint at Possible iChat Services for iOS (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/17/code-strings-hint-at-possible-ichat-services-for-ios/)



blyan
Nov 17, 2011, 10:25 AM
Holy crap that's amazing... that people still use AIM :P

AFPoster
Nov 17, 2011, 10:28 AM
I'd just love to see iChat on an iPhone or iPad. Even Android devices!!!

blueroom
Nov 17, 2011, 10:31 AM
iChat is sore-fully missing iMessage chat. Just as iWork really needs the iCloud integrated.

Lets hope both become reality.

roland.g
Nov 17, 2011, 10:35 AM
Could they fragment it a bit more please. I have to use skype from my iPad to video chat with anyone not running 10.6.8 or later because FaceTime isn't supported on older stuff. I use iChat Mac to Mac. But FaceTime phone to phone. Nothing integrates through our tv yet which seems the most logical. Build a webcam into the Apple TV2 and put iFaceChatTime on that. It is a bit ridiculous that in Apple's general effort to simplify things, they have made this so fragmented.

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iChat is sore-fully missing iMessage chat. Just as iWork really needs the iCloud integrated.

Lets hope both become reality.

Agreed. The fact that iWork on an iPhone or iPad seamlessly update through docs on the go but you must download and upload files to icloud for iWork on a Mac just seems contradictory to the whole point of iCloud docs on the go.

Tinmania
Nov 17, 2011, 10:35 AM
I wish they would simply merge iChat and iMessage and be done with it.

I find I use Yahoo Messenger and MSN still, mainly because I can seamlessly move from iOS to computer without issue. I hate having to respond on my iPhone when I am working at my desk where it would be much easier.



Michael

2 Replies
Nov 17, 2011, 10:40 AM
Anyone wanna bet it will be iPhone5+ & iPad3+ only?
:rolleyes:

NorCalLights
Nov 17, 2011, 10:42 AM
This a thousand times. We need one messaging app to rule them all... both on iOS and OSX.

Consultant
Nov 17, 2011, 10:43 AM
iChat and iMessage team should work together to create the universal universal app that works on both Mac an iOS.

blyan
Nov 17, 2011, 10:43 AM
Would I be a bad Apple fan if I said I'd much rather see full/native support for Google Talk/Google Plus (and Hangouts)?

... and Google Docs, while they're at it.

adildacoolset
Nov 17, 2011, 10:56 AM
Apple should merge ichat, iMessage, and FaceTime in one grand social networking app. My guess is iOS 6

dethmaShine
Nov 17, 2011, 11:01 AM
I wish they would simply merge iChat and iMessage and be done with it.

I find I use Yahoo Messenger and MSN still, mainly because I can seamlessly move from iOS to computer without issue. I hate having to respond on my iPhone when I am working at my desk where it would be much easier.

Michael

Well, thats what they are trying to do. :rolleyes:

blyan
Nov 17, 2011, 11:06 AM
I find I use Yahoo Messenger

Holy crap that thing still exists?

chuckles:)
Nov 17, 2011, 11:41 AM
Apple should merge ichat, iMessage, and FaceTime in one grand social networking app. My guess is iOS 6

I don't get why they fragmented the things to begin with. FaceTime is unintuitive, ichat is out of date, and iMessage is, well, it's good but it's limited. They really all accomplish the same thing, so they should all new rolled together.

acfusion29
Nov 17, 2011, 12:13 PM
when facetime, iChat and iMessage are one, i'll be more inclined to use my iPad (that i'll soon be buying) than my MBP.

i hate using 3rd party applications (IM+, beejive, etc for instant messaging so i don't instant message at all on my iOS device)

justinfreid
Nov 17, 2011, 12:29 PM
I wish they would simply merge iChat and iMessage and be done with it.

I find I use Yahoo Messenger and MSN still, mainly because I can seamlessly move from iOS to computer without issue. I hate having to respond on my iPhone when I am working at my desk where it would be much easier.
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Being stuck with iMessage only on my mobile devices bothers me, too. Being able to get Jabber and Facebook messages, for instance, on any device makes them a lot more flexible.

While they're at it, jam Facetime into the singular messaging app and use the same branding across the mobile and desktop space.

Slix
Nov 17, 2011, 03:26 PM
I still use iChat occasionally, but I'd definitely use it more if iMessage and FaceTime were all integrated together with iChat.

Cubert
Nov 17, 2011, 04:34 PM
Isn't Jabber part of the iMessage protocol? I remember that as being one of the 5 or 6 open protocols that Apple pieced together to come up with iMessage.

Saladinos
Nov 18, 2011, 03:53 PM
I'm surprised Apple's bothering to support these old protocols. Replace iChat with iMessage and let 3rd party apps support the old protocols.

Also, I really want Apple to build an iMessage web app. Let's say you're phone's dead and out of battery - you can use a friend's phone to access the web client and let that special someone know you're safe. Or let's say you're in a foreign country, using some ****** terminal - you'd still be able to communicate in near real-time.

It's those kind of things that really add value to people. Apple is usually too restrictive with how you access their services (for example, not offering cross-platform web interfaces), so a lot of that value is lost.

iMessage has a lot of potential value to people. I hope Apple really go for it.

APlotdevice
Nov 18, 2011, 10:36 PM
It'd be really great if you could reply to IMs without having to leave the app you're currently in.