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MacRumors
Oct 13, 2002, 01:46 AM
Apple has filed for another Trademark... this time on the word "Keynote" relating to "Computer hardware, computer software". This trademark was filed on September 10, 2002, and adds another mysterious trademark to Apple's collection.

Most recently, Apple filed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/07/20020726125613.shtml) a trademark for "Junkyard" in July 2002, and Gigawire (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2001/10/20011017174417.shtml) in Sept 2001.

In the past, a trademark for iPicture (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2001/05/20010530012246.shtml) in March 2001 ended up becoming iPhoto (released 10 months later)



J@ffa
Oct 13, 2002, 01:52 AM
… It's that new Video Conferencing app everyone was anticipating a while ago. Might be quite useful… if it is. :)

arn
Oct 13, 2002, 02:02 AM
Does anyone recognize this?

It's another trademark registration from Apple as of July 2002.

ComSense
Oct 13, 2002, 02:11 AM
Uhh, that's the Rendezvous logo.

arn
Oct 13, 2002, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by ComSense
Uhh, that's the Rendezvous logo.

ah.... :) Guess I haven't used Rendezvous...

arn

dantec
Oct 13, 2002, 05:10 AM
I love that logo (in color).

So if they own a trademark for iPicture, and they released iPhoto, why are they still holding onto iPicture ? Are they affraid, M$ will try another iApp copy ? (microsoft movie maker)

Furious Tiger
Oct 13, 2002, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by dantec
I love that logo (in color).

So if they own a trademark for iPicture, and they released iPhoto, why are they still holding onto iPicture ? Are they affraid, M$ will try another iApp copy ? (microsoft movie maker)

I would.

dantec
Oct 13, 2002, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by Furious Tiger


I would.

Come to think of it, I would too...

boskie
Oct 13, 2002, 07:02 AM
This rather sounds more like something to do with apple's aquisition of eMagic maybe?

Maybe it is a combined audio/midi interface device to go with a potential new iApp for music creation/sequencing... iGroove, iSequnce or iRock?

3G4N
Oct 13, 2002, 10:12 AM
boskie, your note sounds on key

alex_ant
Oct 13, 2002, 10:51 AM
I don't know if Apple would have gone to the trouble of buying out Emagic if all they were going to do was release some piddly little audio iApp. I was expecting a Final Cut Pro equivalent for the audio world. Whatever they do with Logic, it's not gonna have an "i" in front of it. (Unless they release a stripped-down version...)

IJ Reilly
Oct 13, 2002, 11:27 AM
I guess Uncle Steve's appearances at MacWorld are now covered by a trademark. The way I understand it, from this time on, no other technology company CEO will legally be able to make a "keynote presentation" without saying "under license from Apple Computer, all rights reserved."

Smart move. I can't wait for Bill Gates to make his next Keynote™ speech at Comdex.

job
Oct 13, 2002, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by dantec
I love that logo (in color).


Yep...

It looks good.

markseaton
Oct 13, 2002, 12:18 PM
I still think apple is going to make a PDA in the near future and it will not run on palm but a revised Newton/Aqua OS It will be far more powerful then the curents standereds for PDA's ie:

400mhz
64mb
320x320 screen
memery slot
USB
palm/winCE

From the rumors and videos of all the iwalk stuff there has to be something cooking at apple R&D maybe apple got cold feet after all the hype those video's made when the ipod was released instead? so maybe they were looking for a new name for there pet?

I think the "keynote" would make a good name for PDA.

mark my words APPLE WILL MAKE A PDA AGAIN! :)

scem0
Oct 13, 2002, 12:21 PM
I don't understand how you formulate apple releasing a PDA from their buying of 'keynote'.:confused:

djcobb44
Oct 13, 2002, 01:12 PM
Is it me, or is this "i-Name" scheme of Apple's apps getting a bit dull, or over used, and i know they have pro apps that do not start with "i". I wish they would give there software titles and hardware more aggressive, progressive names and while I'm at it their commercials too. (Sorry, I must be in a wintel frame of mind)... But come on, an ipicture, iwalk, ipda, iwhatever is starting to become bland and annoying. I realize that it helps destinguish the pro and consumer level products, but I thought that was the reason that "pro" was added on to items such as "quicktime pro." The iapps are quality software/hardware but it makes them sound inferior, or something not to be taken seriously, and I think the name doesn't do justice for the power that they give the average user. Am I the only one that feels this way?.....

Chisholm
Oct 13, 2002, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by J@ffa
… It's that new Video Conferencing app everyone was anticipating a while ago. Might be quite useful… if it is. :)

Or perhaps a presentation app *no flames please* such as M$ PowerPoint. Capable of still images, HTML, etc., video, QuickTime.

Something as such would help me move folks from Windows machines a LOT faster. I work with professors in a college of communication, their classes are quite often presentations.

If you think about it this is true of many teachers...isn't there a Switcher that is a professor?

cheers!
-john

Durandal7
Oct 13, 2002, 01:29 PM
I thought that arn was abbreviating the entry but all it actually says is Hardware, Software.

Now the question is, will we ever see the trademark used?

dricci
Oct 13, 2002, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by djcobb44
Is it me, or is this "i-Name" scheme of Apple's apps getting a bit dull, or over used, and i know they have pro apps that do not start with "i".

It's just you. The iApps power the Digital Hub, they're THE reason to buy a Mac. People remember the names easily, and they make sense. They're not going anywhere any time soon.

medea
Oct 13, 2002, 02:30 PM
I doubt keynote is going to end up being the title of any software, it's still just going to be The Keynote Address, thats the type of tradmark they filed for "the word "Keynote" relating to "Computer hardware, computer software".

barkmonster
Oct 13, 2002, 02:32 PM
I think they should release an internet security app called iPfreely :D

Seriously though, keynote is a description of an event, it would be like a political group stopping people from using the word "party" in their "keynotes". Sounds stupid, like that story on the onion site last year about microsoft taking out a patent on the number 1 and 0!

Chisholm
Oct 13, 2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by dricci


It's just you. The iApps power the Digital Hub, they're THE reason to buy a Mac. People remember the names easily, and they make sense. They're not going anywhere any time soon.

But, but, but...remind me, what does the "i" stand for again? "Internet"?

voicegy
Oct 13, 2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Chisholm


But, but, but...remind me, what does the "i" stand for again? "Internet"?


Quite correct. Started with the original iMac. Also has an allusion to personhood, as it "I can do (fill in the blank).

shadowfax
Oct 13, 2002, 02:40 PM
not anymore!

[edit: dang, somebody beat me to reply! errr... right :o ]

Chisholm
Oct 13, 2002, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by voicegy


... Also has an allusion to personhood, as it "I can do (fill in the blank).

Ah thank you! I completely missed that. Makes more sense now!;)

scem0
Oct 13, 2002, 07:08 PM
I thought the 'i' stood for 'imagine'. I could be wrong though...

Durandal7
Oct 13, 2002, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by scem0
I thought the 'i' stood for 'imagine'. I could be wrong though...
No, it stood for internet originally. Now it's just there.

scem0
Oct 13, 2002, 07:35 PM
they should market it as 'imagine' because it sounds better, and it goes with all the iApps.

markseaton
Oct 13, 2002, 09:36 PM
Why do i think "keynote" is going to be used for a PDA, well for the fact that it is not being copyrighted to keep people from using it in there speeches it may be a new app but with a name like that it would make more sence for a PDA, think about it...

KeyNote: a key to your digital lifestyle and a Notepad to recored you life..

or

KeyNote: A form of taking notes that is simple and effective IE:"Graffity" but incapaculating both a PDA and it's handwriting software

or as a software

KeyNote: a script writing software..

it's just a idea
:o

michaelrjohnson
Oct 14, 2002, 12:00 AM
I think Keynote would be a great name for an audio application... Didn't Apple purchase an Audio software company? I vaugely remember something abou that, but I can't find a link or anything. Did Apple do this, or did I make this up? If they did, an Apple-branded version of whatever app they made would sound good with the name "Keynote".

pascalpp
Oct 14, 2002, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by michaelrjohnson
I think Keynote would be a great name for an audio application... Didn't Apple purchase an Audio software company? I vaugely remember something abou that, but I can't find a link or anything. Did Apple do this, or did I make this up? If they did, an Apple-branded version of whatever app they made would sound good with the name "Keynote".

i think it might have something to do with this acquisition as well. (They acquired emagic earlier this year, july i think. they make Logic, an excellent audio sequencer which now runs beautifully on OS X!)

regarding the thread about what does the 'i' stand for: when the iMac was introduced several words were shown at the keynote, and that the 'i' in iMac stood for all of them. the ones i remember were Internet, Imagination, Individuality, and 'I'. at least i think those were included. there may have been others.

scem0
Oct 14, 2002, 01:20 AM
I guess it could be a PDA, but didn't apple say that PDAs were mutating into cell phones and that the PDA business was a dying business?

Cappy
Oct 14, 2002, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by scem0
I guess it could be a PDA, but didn't apple say that PDAs were mutating into cell phones and that the PDA business was a dying business?

I think it's really going to come down to what is defined as a pda. Apple likes to try making their own rules and could very well deliver something that everyone else will call a pda but Apple will market as anything but that. The ipod to some extent could be considered a pda yet Apple doesn't admit to it being a pda.

scem0
Oct 14, 2002, 03:39 AM
That is very true, but 'knowing apple' it would be a lot closer to a phone then to a PDA.

ogun7
Oct 14, 2002, 10:33 AM
Steve hates John Scully +
John Scully loves Newton (PDA's) +
Steve kills Newton (in '98) -
Palm Inc. stock is struggling -
Crowded PDA marketplace (Sony,PocketPCet.al)=
_____________________________________
NO APPLE PDA !!!

GET OVER IT!!!

Doctor Q
Oct 14, 2002, 11:22 AM
Having a trademark doesn't necessarily mean Apple is going to use the name. It just means they have reserved the right in case they decide to do so. In the early 1970s, when IBM's PL/I programming language (pronounced "p-l-one") was especially popular, IBM reserved the rights to the names PL/2, PL/3, up to PL/99. I don't believe they ever produced a product with any of those names, however.

TechLarry
Oct 15, 2002, 07:23 AM
You have GOT to be kidding me!

This is almost as crazy as IBM trying to patent a "Toilet Reservation System".

No, I'm not kidding. Search ZDNet from Yesterday.

TL

Doctor Q
Oct 15, 2002, 12:59 PM
Gosh, you're right about IBM's new invention. IBM's patent (http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06329919__) claims that they invented

(quote) A method of providing reservations for restroom use, comprising:

* receiving a reservation request from a user; and

* notifying the user when the restroom is available for his or her use. (end quote)

Gosh! I invented that years ago for use around the house. You say "tell me when you come out" to the person in there. I just never thought to patent it.

OrkneyEarl
Oct 15, 2002, 11:04 PM
Hello forum. Long time listener, first time poster.

To those that think "Keynote" is an odd word to trademark, let's not forget about "Junkyard" and "Framistan". Both of these are Apple trademarks.

Personally, I can't wait until they release their PDA/GSM phone called "Framistan"

Doctor Q
Oct 16, 2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by OrkneyEarl
To those that think "Keynote" is an odd word to trademark, let's not forget about "Junkyard" and "Framistan". Both of these are Apple trademarks.

Personally, I can't wait until they release their PDA/GSM phone called "Framistan"

I hope this (http://204.185.19.89/cflmstud/cflmstud37/praises.htm) has nothing to do with it.