The Nürburgring GP Thread

[takao]

since the first 2 training runs have been today i thought it was time to post a GP thread before somebody else does it ;)

results of friday training (* are test/3rd drivers and not gonna race on sunday):
1st run:

1. Alexander Wurz* (AUT) McLaren-Mercedes 1:31,670 Min.
2. Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari 1:32,578
3. Ricardo Zonta* (BRA) Toyota 1:32,726
4. Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) McLaren-Mercedes 1:32,873
5. Rubens Barrichello (BRA) Ferrari 1:32,984
6. Kimi Räikkönen (FIN) McLaren-Mercedes 1:32,988
7. Nick Heidfeld (GER) Williams-BMW 1:33,142
8. Mark Webber (AUS) Williams-BMW 1:33,248
9. Christian Klien* (AUT) Red Bull Racing 1:33,304
10. Ralf Schumacher (GER) Toyota 1:34,018

2nd run:
1. Alexander Wurz* (AUT) McLaren-Mercedes 1:30,623 Min.
2. Ricardo Zonta* (BRA) Toyota 1:30,630
3. Nick Heidfeld (GER) Williams-BMW 1:31,813
4. Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) McLaren-Mercedes 1:31,841
5. Kimi Räikkönen (FIN) McLaren-Mercedes 1:31,870
6. Mark Webber (AUS) Williams-BMW 1:32,088
7. Rubens Barrichello (BRA) Ferrari 1:32,143
8. Fernando Alonso (ESP) Renault 1:32,335
9. Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA) Renault 1:32,842
10. Ralf Schumacher (GER) Toyota 1:33,098
...
13. Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari 1:33,242

[takao]

final line up for tommorow:

1. Nick Heidfeld (GER) Williams-BMW
2. Kimi Räikkönen (FIN) McLaren-Mercedes
3. Mark Webber (AUS) Williams-BMW
4. Jarno Trulli (ITA) Toyota
5. Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) McLaren-Mercedes
6. Fernando Alonso (ESP) Renault
7. Rubens Barrichello (BRA) Ferrari
8. Ralf Schumacher (GER) Toyota
9. Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA) Renault
10. Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari

great qualifiying by BMW, first Pole Position for Nick Heidfeld, they seem to have improved a lot

and yet again another "Schumacher from the back of the field" race ;)

[MOFS]

final line up for tommorow:

1. Nick Heidfeld (GER) Williams-BMW
2. Kimi Räikkönen (FIN) McLaren-Mercedes
3. Mark Webber (AUS) Williams-BMW
4. Jarno Trulli (ITA) Toyota
5. Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) McLaren-Mercedes
6. Fernando Alonso (ESP) Renault
7. Rubens Barrichello (BRA) Ferrari
8. Ralf Schumacher (GER) Toyota
9. Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA) Renault
10. Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari

great qualifiying by BMW, first Pole Position for Nick Heidfeld, they seem to have improved a lot

and yet again another "Schumacher from the back of the field" race ;)

On a contraversial note is it just me that thinks that both Italy and Germany have two GPs each? I mean, if you need to get rid of some European GPs surely one of each would be an obvious choice? :confused:

Anyway - I think Williams are low on fuel in a bid to gain grid position. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Toyotas, Renaults and Mclarens come through later due to more fuel. Probably the Mclarens coming through very well - Raikonnen seem to be on form.

[brap]

On a contraversial note is it just me that thinks that both Italy and Germany have two GPs each? I mean, if you need to get rid of some European GPs surely one of each would be an obvious choice? :confused:Wasn't it originally the idea to have a 'floating' European GP... different track each time? I seem to remember an awesome, very wet Donington GP back in the day -- I think it was there that Senna made it necessary for pit lane speed limits!

But yeah, it's quite silly that they've found a permanent home. The old way worked well, but I suppose it's down to whether or not a venue has facilities enough... it's an expensive business getting a world-class circuit [ask Jackie Stewart], and with the very real prospect of not getting the limelight again for a substantial time, it's probably far too risky.

Anyway. Come on DC, get your act together man...

[takao]

Wasn't it originally the idea to have a 'floating' European GP... different track each time? I seem to remember an awesome, very wet Donington GP back in the day -- I think it was there that Senna made it necessary for pit lane speed limits!

But yeah, it's quite silly that they've found a permanent home. The old way worked well, but I suppose it's down to whether or not a venue has facilities enough... it's an expensive business getting a world-class circuit [ask Jackie Stewart], and with the very real prospect of not getting the limelight again for a substantial time, it's probably far too risky.

correct .. but on the other side you have to pay a lot of money to get the "circus" for a year ;)
like austria who completly rebuilt it's Formula 1/Moto GP course up to F1 standards and got a lousy 5 year contract or something and now F1 is gone again..

[MOFS]

correct .. but on the other side you have to pay a lot of money to get the "circus" for a year ;)
like austria who completly rebuilt it's Formula 1/Moto GP course up to F1 standards and got a lousy 5 year contract or something and now F1 is gone again..

And then you get Imola staying while Belgium leaves us for a year. :mad: :rolleyes:

Anyway...still think the Williams are light.

[mad jew]

Anyway...still think the Williams are light.


Me too, but what about Kimi? Is he light too? I'd like to see one of the Williams cars win but I reckon Kimi might have them for race speed at the end of the day.

[MOFS]

Me too, but what about Kimi? Is he light too? I'd like to see one of the Williams cars win but I reckon Kimi might have them for race speed at the end of the day.

Well Raikonnen has pitted first out of the Renaults and Mclarens. Alonso looking good - even DC is tho! :eek:

But where is iGav? :confused:

[brap]

even DC is tho!Do remember that he'd have been up there in Monaco, had Michael not driven into him. But the drive thru has killed any hopes of a decent result... :(

[mad jew]

Cool, it sounds like we've got a leader with bad tyres. Nothing better. :D

As for iGav, I think he said his computer would be in the shop this weekend or something.

[brap]

Wow. :eek:

[MOFS]

Wow. :eek:

I think Jenson would have cacked his pants if he'd seen how close Raikonnen came to smashing into the back of him. It seems like these tyre regulations have been the best think to happen to Formula 1 for ages - a guaranteed 10-15 laps of racing at the end of every GP so far! I'm looking forward to Britain and Belgium.

[vouder17]

What a pity that it had to end like that, but i must say that Kimi did put his car through a lot of shite throughout the race. I find the current GP far more interestin than last year..atleast now there is a bit more excitement at the top of the leader board. And i am an Alonso fan :D :D

[mad jew]

I missed the first corner. What happened between Webber and Montoya? Was it anyone's fault or was it just a simple case of too many cars in one part of the track?

[barneygumble]

I missed the first corner. What happened between Webber and Montoya? Was it anyone's fault or was it just a simple case of too many cars in one part of the track?

Asmuch as i hate to say it, Webber outbraked himself and Montoya turned into him, he had to turn somethime!! montoya obviously rejoined but mark broke his steering and just kept going striaght

[mad jew]

Yeah thanks barneygumble, I had a feeling that's what happened from what the live web commentary was saying but I was kind of hoping it wasn't Webber's fault - I'm a bit of a fan. To be fair but not trying to justify it at all, It'd be pretty frustrating for him to be reasonably competitive in all aspects of the weekend aside from the starts since it comes down to the car, and not him.