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Dec 13, 2011, 04:39 PM
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SiriusXM (http://www.siriusxm.com/) radio has updated its iOS app (http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/13/2632761/sirius-xm-internet-radio-ios-update) to include DVR-like pause and rewind capabilities, the ability to restart a show in-progress from the beginning, and the ability to go back in time up to 5 hours on a particular channel to catch-up on missed content.

SiriusXM Internet Radio (http://appshopper.com/music/sirius-xm-premium-online) is free for the iPhone and iPad, but requires a $12.95/month standalone subscription or a $3/month fee for existing SiriusXM subscribers [Direct Link (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/siriusxm-internet-radio/id317951436?mt=8)].

Article Link: SiriusXM iOS App Offers 5-Hour Rewind On Shows (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/13/siriusxm-ios-app-offers-5-hour-rewind-on-shows/)



richard4339
Dec 13, 2011, 04:46 PM
... or a $3/month fee for existing SiriusXM subscribers

Might be nice to note the price for this (not sure about the rest) is going up to $3.50/month in January.

crisss1205
Dec 13, 2011, 04:47 PM
Such a welcome change, I used to miss that with my old Sportster unit. At least now it rewinds it to the beginning of the song which makes it better.

rdowns
Dec 13, 2011, 04:49 PM
Might be nice to note the price for this (not sure about the rest) is going up to $3.50/month in January.


All rates are going up in January.

Oooh, that reminds me, I need to cancel my XM subscription as leased car goes back on Thursday.

TMar
Dec 13, 2011, 04:55 PM
All rates are going up in January.

Oooh, that reminds me, I need to cancel my XM subscription as leased car goes back on Thursday.

Good luck with that! They have die hard salesmen as CS so be ready to fend off a very long slew of offers to keep your service.

rdowns
Dec 13, 2011, 05:07 PM
Good luck with that! They have die hard salesmen as CS so be ready to fend off a very long slew of offers to keep your service.

And I'll listen to what they have to say so I can get the best deal on my next subscription when the 6 months free runs out on the new car. :)

TMar
Dec 13, 2011, 05:20 PM
And I'll listen to what they have to say so I can get the best deal on my next subscription when the 6 months free runs out on the new car. :)

They are the worst group I ever dealt with when trying to cancel a subscription.

Me "My radio die."
CS "We'll send you a new one."
Me "I never listened to it anyhow."
CS "It's nice to have in case you want to listen to it."
Me "I'm not going to pay for something I don't use."
CS "We are sending you a new radio and 3 months of free service"
Me "I don't want it and I'm not going to use it. You might as well save it for someone else."
CS "Then call back and cancel in 3 months, it's on it's way."


Well they sent me a radio and gave me the moths free and I never used it and the worst part was I had to call and go through it all over again. While it's great service and they are willing to go the extra mile to keep customers happy there's a point in time where they need to get the point.

DTphonehome
Dec 13, 2011, 06:12 PM
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It's better than a dvr… all the buffer is stored on their servers so you never have to program anything.

cmwade77
Dec 13, 2011, 06:20 PM
I have to say that trying to cancel XM is harder than canceling AOL ever was. In addition, it is over priced for what you get now, it used to be a lot more reasonable. i am just refering to the service it's self, it used to be around $7 per month when I first signed up with them. I got rid of them when they went up to $10 per month, now it's $12.99 and $3 extra if I want to listen on my iPhone? No way is that worth it, when there are various streaming sources that are free and work on the iPhone/iPad and multiple other places, even at the same time.

FakeWozniak
Dec 13, 2011, 06:21 PM
I thought it was nice when it was free with the car, but can't justify the price for weeding out commercials. If they offered an internet-only service for $50/year, with no commitment and no other subscription, then I would actually find it a good value.

Long term prediction is that they don't survive 2012. Add Blockbuster to the same list. Netflix and Redbox are treading water for a few more years before they drown.

starbird
Dec 13, 2011, 06:43 PM
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Good luck with that! They have die hard salesmen as CS so be ready to fend off a very long slew of offers to keep your service.

And I'll listen to what they have to say so I can get the best deal on my next subscription when the 6 months free runs out on the new car. :)

As long as you don't want the best of the other service (so if it is xm you have, the best of Sirius) - don't settle for anything other than $77/year (plus tax)

applesith
Dec 13, 2011, 07:14 PM
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I used to subscribe for BPM. Canceling was a nightmare. I was looking to starting again but $15 a month is rediculous compared to what I get from Netflix for $8.

Gemütlichkeit
Dec 13, 2011, 07:27 PM
I'd use this if they have a steaming Podcast ability through iTunes

a2rael
Dec 13, 2011, 08:39 PM
I did my research for about 20 minutes before making the call to cancel as I'd heard the horror stories. Finally found a few who said, tell them you sold your car.. and it's pretty quick.

I did that and sure enough it was a fast cancelation. They did try to find out the exact date and time I was "selling" the car (I told them the guy was on his way to pick it up... so within the hour).. they asked if they could talk to buyer about keeping service, I told them no.. I barely knew the guy.

It was all lies on my part, but it worked.. less than 5 minute phone call total.

THEY DID however, leave it on in the car for a few weeks after canceling.. I suspect because they wanted to give the "new owner" a taste of it and then abruptly pull the plug, hoping the "new owner" would call and seek reactivation.

Definitely some shady people over there.

socrammtz
Dec 13, 2011, 08:48 PM
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I cancelled satellite radio and now pay for Pandora. Much happier now.

junebug1
Dec 13, 2011, 09:22 PM
This update is a huge step in the right direction. Even though the technology & ability to offer this feature set have been available for quite some time it is fantastic, especially as a Howard fan, to finally start to see this functionality. I hope this is only the first major update we see, especially to fix the fact that fast forward and rewind are more like spinning a wheel and seeing what point in time you will land.

The cost of SiriusXM is going to continue to rise and with it should come much more extensive accessibility to the programming.

jw2002
Dec 14, 2011, 12:09 AM
People still use Sirius/Xm???

foodog
Dec 14, 2011, 12:50 AM
I'd use this if they have a steaming Podcast ability through iTunes

Was that a Freudian slip?

mingoglia
Dec 14, 2011, 01:09 AM
People still use Sirius/Xm???

It's one of those services that I rarely use but when I go on a road trip I'm glad I have it. Here in the Southwest radio stations in the desert are a bit limited and streaming from the phone can be problematic in places and on long trips use up your data.

With all that being said, I have Sirus in 3 of my 4 vehicles and 2 of which I haven't even turned it on in at least 2 years. This thread reminds me that I should probably cancel a couple of them. :cool:

hexonxonx
Dec 14, 2011, 01:19 AM
People still use Sirius/Xm???

Yes. I've been an XM sub since 2003 and will be till it dies if it does. I tried Pandora and Spotify and gave them up after a day or two. I love my commercial free music on XM. I bought my 06 Chevy back them with XM in mind when I bought it.

OTACORB
Dec 14, 2011, 02:30 AM
Greatly improved app. SiriusXM has over 20 million subscribers and over the last 6 quarters they have added subscribers and their churn according to their financials is 1.3%, which is really low for a subscription based service.

So all of you naysayers don't have a clue when you say this service won't survive 2012. Clearly the service isn't for everyone, but when you consider the cost vs what you actually get its a great value. For me on the road a lot having access to so much live programming especially sports is something just not available via internet based music services.

My cable internet and programming has gone up every single year for the last several years. I've had the same rate from SiriusXM for years now. So they are going up in Jan, I have no problems with that.

Before anyone makes the stupid statement that I work for SiriusXM. NO I don't, I am just a subscriber, so don't go there.

MacDarcy
Dec 14, 2011, 06:24 AM
I think all the naysayers are Teenagers and college kids who dont drive or have a job, and are used to Pandora because it's "Free".

But guess what? Pandora is losing money hand over fist. Mark my words, they will be forced to move to a subscription based model like MOST of the internet radio companies and Sirius. Spotify already did, it's over $10 a month. Slacker is moving that way and so are the others.

Pandora is just trying to get as many people to join their free service while they still can. If they don't raise their rates soon, they will be forced to add more commercials...and trust me...people will NOT like that.

I will say, that people are getting used to services like Pandora tho....with the ability to create your own stations. People like that kind of control. Sirius will provide this service soon too. They will add it to their Sat 2.0 in a future update for a small fee. Mark my words.

Another thing people fail to mention here is that Sirius has so much more than music. They have uncensored talk, sports and comedy.

Plus Satellite radio is everywhere, and doesn't use up data. Try getting a consistant signal for Pandora while driving in your car. And die hard radio listeners will eat up their data plans on their phones very fast and risk INSANE overcharges from the telecom companies which are all moving away from unlimited data plans to capped plans.

I bet the poster who predicted Sirius would die in 2012 is a teenager who is used to getting Pandora for free. Well...don't get used to that. Pandora is the one who might not be here past 2012 if they don't raise their fees or add more commercials. And watch how fast the teenagers drop the service.

Sirius offers so much more for pennies a day. And anyone who drives or owns a car who tries the services loves it. Most teenagers or college kids dont have cars or jobs.

Spotify is charging $10 a month. Pretty soon all the internet radio companies will be charging that much. Sirius will offer the ability to create personal radio stations soon, and only charges $4.95 more a month than Spotify....but you get so much more like Sports and uncensored talk and special live shows and concerts. Sirius can easily add a Pandora like feature, but Pandora and its ilk could never offer all the great content Sirius does.

So be honest...down the road, if you have the choice of paying $10 a month for Spotify, Pandora etc and just get a music jukebox....OR pay $15 a month for Sirius and get that AND so much more with all their Sports, uncensored talk, live concerts etc.....WHICH service would you really choose?

Totally worth it in my opinion. :-)

HarryKeogh
Dec 14, 2011, 06:42 AM
Nice! Hope they add this to the desktop player as well.

Baba booey, Howard Stern's small penis.

Tbone999
Dec 14, 2011, 07:04 AM
I have Sirius Xm and I'm astonished at how, despite its 200 channels, there is nothing to listen to most of the time. All of the music channels seem unduly repetitious after you've been driving around listening to it for a week, and the talk radio is mostly unlistenable. The only non-music channels I listen to are NPR and classic radio. There is almost nothing that I would want to "DVR" and certainly no stretch of five hour programming I would want to record and listen to again.

I find that I'm always listening to stuff I've loaded onto my iPhone (Car Talk and Wait Wait Don't Tell Me are available by podcast for free), and Pandora. I don't know if I'll renew my subscription when it comes up again in March.

yg17
Dec 14, 2011, 07:37 AM
People still use Sirius/Xm???

Yes, been a subscriber since 2004 and will be until the day they die or the day I die, whichever comes first. I do a lot of driving and it's worth every penny. There is one FM station here that plays the kind of music I like, and the couple times I've been stuck in a car without Sirius, it's mostly commercials. Plus I love listening to Howard Stern, even if he's not as good as he used to be.

Nice! Hope they add this to the desktop player as well.

Baba booey, Howard Stern's small penis.

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Marzzz
Dec 14, 2011, 08:15 AM
The thing I find most annoying about the SiriusXM app is the 90-minute limit before it asks "are you still listening" and then cuts off. I work in an environment where I can't be by my iPod touch and constantly restart it.

OutGolfn
Dec 14, 2011, 08:20 AM
I cancelled my XM Radio long ago and pay for Slacker Radio. It's been great. $12.95 or $3.99? That's a tough one!

nylonsteel
Dec 14, 2011, 08:22 AM
re original article

its about time - this should be a standard feature

MacDarcy
Dec 14, 2011, 08:49 AM
The thing I find most annoying about the SiriusXM app is the 90-minute limit before it asks "are you still listening" and then cuts off. I work in an environment where I can't be by my iPod touch and constantly restart it.

Dude. I got news for you...Pandora does this too. ALL data hungry streaming apps do this. Pandora is losing so much money, they have to do this. They are being charged per song.

Telecom companies have phased out their unlimited plans....and even those who are "grandfathered" in....if they cross a certain threshold, they have their internet speeds SLOWED down by the telecom companies.

And it's only going to get worse. Thats why i say Pandora and Slacker and the others will ALL be charging over $10 a month before too long.

But the great thing about Sirius, is that they can be listened to via satellite as well, and are not tied to this limited data stream BS.

hexonxonx
Dec 14, 2011, 08:54 AM
Dude. I got news for you...Pandora does this too. ALL data hungry streaming apps do this. Pandora is losing so much money, they have to do this. They are being charged per song.

Telecom companies have phased out their unlimited plans....and even those who are "grandfathered" in....if they cross a certain threshold, they have their internet speeds SLOWED down by the telecom companies.

And it's only going to get worse. Thats why i say Pandora and Slacker and the others will ALL be charging over $10 a month before too long.

But the great thing about Sirius, is that they can be listened to via satellite as well, and are not tied to this limited data stream BS.

If your phone is jailbroken, there is something that you can add via Cydia that gets rid of the nagging in the Sirius/XM app.

MacDarcy
Dec 14, 2011, 08:56 AM
I cancelled my XM Radio long ago and pay for Slacker Radio. It's been great. $12.95 or $3.99? That's a tough one!

Even at $3.99, Slacker will have to keep raising their rates to stay viable. They will all follow Spotifies lead eventually and charge $10 or more a month.

Telecom companies are charging more and more for data streaming as well. Sirius with their satellites aren't trapped in this data streaming prison tho.

Plus Sirius offers sooooo much more for mere pennies a day. Sports, uncensored talk etc. Pandora and Slacker dont have this, and will never have this.

Even at $9 more a month, i would gladly pay for Sirius over Slacker. And mark my words, Slacker will be charging $10 sooner than u think.

Once Sirius offers a Pandora like feature where u can create your own radio stations....there will be zero reasons to choose Slacker or any of those other services....especially when they all will be charging $10 soon.

janstett
Dec 14, 2011, 09:11 AM
I have Sirius Xm and I'm astonished at how, despite its 200 channels, there is nothing to listen to most of the time. All of the music channels seem unduly repetitious after you've been driving around listening to it for a week

Agreed. It seems like they're programming for someone who listens for 15 minutes a week. For example, I started listening to Blues (now the merged B.B. King channel) and you start hearing the same songs over and over again. Wait a minute, this is an art form that has about 100 years of material and I'm hearing the same songs in a day?

I get they are programming to get attention, but how about a "deep" version of such channels for long duration listeners?

I usually listen to alternative and hard rock. There are many channels to choose from, but the jocks (and programmers) spread over several stations. One of my personal irritants is the high rotation of RATM -- OK I like them in small doses but they're a band that's been defunct for a decade I don't need to hear them 1 out of every 7 songs on all the rock stations.

Tbone999
Dec 14, 2011, 03:08 PM
One of my personal irritants is the high rotation of RATM -- OK I like them in small doses but they're a band that's been defunct for a decade I don't need to hear them 1 out of every 7 songs on all the rock stations.

I'm also amazed at how much Steely Dan and Rod Stewart ends up getting played on the classic rock channel. Especially the Rod Stewart. Guess what? He's not classic rock at all, he's pop.

GuitarDTO
Dec 14, 2011, 05:21 PM
I've had XM in one car or another since 2004. XM/Sirius has to be the worst customer service company on the planet. Their model for changing/removing services is truly maddening. What could easily be setup to be web based and allow you to make changes freely instead requires you to sit on a phone and get harassed no matter what your reasons for making a change. If you want to remove any kind of service from your account, they play the old "We need to transfer you to a cancellation center" trick, where you will then sit on hold for at LEAST an hour waiting for someone to answer, when all they are really wanting you to do is hang up. I went on a tirade one time after waiting that hour out and someone finally answering.

My wife still has the service in her car, so I tacked on the streaming subscription for another $3 a month and use the service on my phone occasionally. The app is a disaster, the service constantly stutters/stops for me (Pandora, iheart radio and a number of other music apps don't have this problem, so it's not my 3G connection...it does it on Wifi too). I just haven't had the patience to cancel it yet. My wife has a new vehicle coming with 1 year free subscription, so in a few weeks I have to cancel all of our existing service and transfer the account to the new radio with a free year. I know that will be a battle.

The one method that works for sure is canceling or letting your credit card expire and not giving them your new one. Then all of a sudden they take interest.

Marzzz
Dec 14, 2011, 07:08 PM
Dude. I got news for you...Pandora does this too. ALL data hungry streaming apps do this. Pandora is losing so much money, they have to do this. They are being charged per song.

Telecom companies have phased out their unlimited plans....and even those who are "grandfathered" in....if they cross a certain threshold, they have their internet speeds SLOWED down by the telecom companies.

And it's only going to get worse. Thats why i say Pandora and Slacker and the others will ALL be charging over $10 a month before too long.

But the great thing about Sirius, is that they can be listened to via satellite as well, and are not tied to this limited data stream BS.
I understand the concerns with data streaming, etc.; but I am using the SiriusXM app on an iPod Touch (actually, my old iPhone without a telecom plan) thru Internet via WiFi. This shouldn't be an issue in this case, or am I mistaken?

alfonsog
Dec 14, 2011, 10:38 PM
I love my sirius in my car (lifetime plan) and through internet on my iPhone (grandfathered unlimited data) and on my sonos speakers at home. Then again I only listen to out q, sirius left, and on broadway so there is no other choice for me.

monkeybagel
Dec 15, 2011, 04:08 AM
Now if they would just remove that so called "Inactivity Timeout" I would be happy. That is the most annoying part of this app and the previous app.

jw2002
Dec 15, 2011, 06:53 PM
I cancelled my XM Radio long ago and pay for Slacker Radio. It's been great. $12.95 or $3.99? That's a tough one!

I cancelled XM when they gutted all their good music in late 2008. I remember having to argue with the lady for like 15 minutes when I called to cancel that NO, I liked you for your diverse music, not Howard Stern. Anyways, other services like Pandora totally leave XM/Sirius in the dust. Pretty much 85-90% of the US population is well within 3G data coverage; we aren't all long haul truck drivers. Plus if I know I'm going to be out in the boonies, then I can download 100 hours of podcasts in advance.

Xm/Sirius dragged their feet with providing on-line access to their content. And then in the merger they worsened much of their content. How many years after the release of the iPhone did they finally make an app available? Most people gave up on Xm/Sirius, moved on to Pandora, and now have no desire to look back. Xm/Sirius fills a teeny, tiny niche at best. I hadn't even thought of Xm in probably 18 months before seeing this recent thread.

janstett
Dec 16, 2011, 01:37 PM
How many years after the release of the iPhone did they finally make an app available?

I'm still a subscriber but I want to air some grievances. I have a memory, you know.

Anyone remember StarPlayr? They made an iPhone app (jailbreak iirc) long before Sirius decided to. Even went legit and were waiting for approval from the app store and then got torpedoed by Sirius after months of waiting for word from Apple. Then the Sirius app finally comes out much later (6-9 months iirc) and no Howard Stern or NFL.

Very frustrated, the quality of the programming has definitely gone downhill.