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bp1000
Dec 15, 2011, 06:16 PM
I did plan on asking my wife for apple tv as a xmas present but i told her not to bother 2 weeks ago. Amazon dropped their price, a long with some other online retailers and they haven't renewed the stock here in the uk.

I saw it as a sign that a new apple tv might be due out soon.

Are you seeing the same in the U.S.A and other parts of the world, is it wise to wait until Jan to see what happens??

Apple TV has no consistent release dates so i know it is hard to tell. One thing is, i would hate to miss out incase they are phasing it out. People seem to think a TV is the next device which i won't be needing.



Mlrollin91
Dec 15, 2011, 08:02 PM
I did plan on asking my wife for apple tv as a xmas present but i told her not to bother 2 weeks ago. Amazon dropped their price, a long with some other online retailers and they haven't renewed the stock here in the uk.

I saw it as a sign that a new apple tv might be due out soon.

Are you seeing the same in the U.S.A and other parts of the world, is it wise to wait until Jan to see what happens??

Apple TV has no consistent release dates so i know it is hard to tell. One thing is, i would hate to miss out incase they are phasing it out. People seem to think a TV is the next device which i won't be needing.

I would think that an update would come in the fall now that it is running iOS. So I am predicting the earliest we will see with be September around iPod/iPhone refresh. Maybe we will begin seeing more rumors come spring after iPad 3 is out.

ipedro
Dec 15, 2011, 08:49 PM
I imagine that stock and prices of the Apple TV 2 in the UK are dropping because it's just not a popular market.

Stock is normal here in North America.

I don't see any reason for AppleTV hardware to be updated at this point. Storage is not a concern now that iCloud has been shown to be the future of iTunes content and the ATV2 has more than enough power to run iOS mirroring and other CPU taxing features.

I believe we'll continue to see iOS updates for AppleTV, but no hardware update until an actual Apple television is released. At that point, I think we'll see another AppleTV box released for those with other branded televisions.

Che Castro
Dec 15, 2011, 11:00 PM
I don't see any reason for AppleTV hardware to be updated at this point.



Smh

fpnc
Dec 15, 2011, 11:58 PM
Apple TV - should i wait?
No.

ntrigue
Dec 16, 2011, 12:06 AM
It's less than $100! Just get one.

a) It may be upgradable to whatever great software is released in 2012
b) It can be retired to a secondary tv if you buy the $2000 Apple TV.
c) Shouldn't you be more worried about your current TV that you bought for a grand?

vitzr
Dec 16, 2011, 12:18 AM
Wait, or you'll be _VERY_ sorry.

With all the buzz around Apple TV at this time, I couldn't imagine a worse time to buy what could suddenly be dropped in favor of a very different product.

Fairly reliable rumors indicate a widescreen TV set type unit in more than one size. If & when this materializes the current little boxes will be nearly worthless.

That's my take on it. And I'm not even interested in either :)

Devie
Dec 16, 2011, 01:44 AM
Eh I have one and it an awesome product. I dont use it at all for renting or any form of internet media, I just stream everything from my iTunes.

I do need another one, for my bedroom/living room, as my one now dances between the two rooms. The only thing that is holding me back is the lack of 1080p support (and to a far lesser extent, 3D). I have a nice big tv in the lounge, I want to give it what it deserves.

ipedro
Dec 16, 2011, 02:22 PM
Smh

Spoken like a person who has no argument.

Epoch KW
Dec 16, 2011, 03:33 PM
Interesting debate for me this one, I have an ATV2 coming from my parents this christmas as a pressie, I too umm'd and arrrr'd a lot about whether now was the time to request one or wait for an inevitable updated release

but...

I see no better way of Apple drawing the masses into the idea that Apple can make a plausable step into the TV market than subtly pushing the current model to as many people as possible. The more visual media you purchase and consume on your Apple TV makes the idea of ditching the normal manufacturers come upgrade time. TV series are, i believe, an imminent release in the UK (plus many other areas), a few updates have been released of late, the streaming of content (mac/pc less) direct from icloud is developing etc.

The draw is being slowly crafted

Coupled with if they replace it with an updated model (1080p etc) it'll be a bridge to the full TV's being released which will be the real prize so only a stop gap item (less than 12 months).

As already mentioned, worst case senario the ever expanding itunes collection of media will be playable from a different TV in the house, no bad thing for £100 in my book :)

doktordoris
Dec 16, 2011, 03:44 PM
I bought an ATV2 the other week and I love it. I don't use the youtube facility as my TV does all that sort of thing, but its great being able to easily stream stuff from my devices to my TV. I also enjoy watching world affairs news items warped through the lens of an american perspective with the wall street journal channel.

jbro1999
Dec 16, 2011, 06:11 PM
Wait, or you'll be _VERY_ sorry.

With all the buzz around Apple TV at this time, I couldn't imagine a worse time to buy what could suddenly be dropped in favor of a very different product.

Fairly reliable rumors indicate a widescreen TV set type unit in more than one size. If & when this materializes the current little boxes will be nearly worthless.

That's my take on it. And I'm not even interested in either :)

Why? I just bought one for $89. Enjoy it now, if a new one comes out sell the old one for almost the same price and buy the new one. Thats the best thing about apple products, they hold their value. I been doing this for years.

I love my ATV2 with airplay

vitzr
Dec 16, 2011, 06:39 PM
Why? I just bought one for $89. Enjoy it now, if a new one comes out sell the old one for almost the same price and buy the new one. Thats the best thing about apple products, they hold their value. I been doing this for years.

I love my ATV2 with airplay

You do bring up a good point.

One that frankly never comes to mind in my case as I'm simply too busy, and not interested in reselling the Apple gear I buy.

If at some point I no longer have the desire to keep it, my preference is to give it to family, friends, or a local school or charity.

Cheers.. :)

Darien Red Sox
Dec 17, 2011, 01:06 PM
Wait, or you'll be _VERY_ sorry.

With all the buzz around Apple TV at this time, I couldn't imagine a worse time to buy what could suddenly be dropped in favor of a very different product.

Fairly reliable rumors indicate a widescreen TV set type unit in more than one size. If & when this materializes the current little boxes will be nearly worthless.

That's my take on it. And I'm not even interested in either :)

This could also mean buy now, if it is indeed dropped if and when Apple releases a TV and you are not in the market for a new TV than you might have a bit of an issue.

sectime
Dec 19, 2011, 11:03 AM
This could also mean buy now, if it is indeed dropped if and when Apple releases a TV and you are not in the market for a new TV than you might have a bit of an issue.
$89 now vs $$$$$ in the future. All in one devices go stale pretty quickly in electronics.

Navdakilla
Dec 19, 2011, 11:35 AM
Get it now and start converting all your movies to iTunes format.. (using handbrake and sublar for metadata) taking me over a month of on and off encoding. (I have about 200 HD movies, and 40 Seasons of tv shows)

It takes time to make it perfect looking, but it will all be worth it

ajohansson
Dec 19, 2011, 01:16 PM
Wait, or you'll be _VERY_ sorry.

With all the buzz around Apple TV at this time, I couldn't imagine a worse time to buy what could suddenly be dropped in favor of a very different product.

Fairly reliable rumors indicate a widescreen TV set type unit in more than one size. If & when this materializes the current little boxes will be nearly worthless.

That's my take on it. And I'm not even interested in either :)

Uh how would the little box be worthless? The ATV2 hooked to a 55" TV will be just as good at watching my iTunes content as a apple branded TV (I can't even imagine the outrageous price tag).

Look ATVs aren't going anywhere. Apple know not everyone is going to replace their TVs.

Get one as its 99 bucks. Its so cool. Mine is JB and I can watch lots of other stuff with running windows 7 on a VM on my computer through play on/XBMC.

From A Buick 8
Dec 19, 2011, 06:57 PM
Uh how would the little box be worthless? The ATV2 hooked to a 55" TV will be just as good at watching my iTunes content as a apple branded TV (I can't even imagine the outrageous price tag).

Look ATVs aren't going anywhere. Apple know not everyone is going to replace their TVs.

Get one as its 99 bucks. Its so cool. Mine is JB and I can watch lots of other stuff with running windows 7 on a VM on my computer through play on/XBMC.

I do not believe that apple would create more then 1 or 2 models ( I actualy do not think they will go the TV route at all), so they will keep the ATV for a low cost option for those that do not need or want the model they make.

bp1000
Dec 19, 2011, 08:55 PM
Amazon still out of stock in the uk

Very odd, they are never this slow at replenishing

Also, I would be extremely surprised if apple release a tv set. The apple tv form factor is great. Locking functionality into a tv set is creating a limited market. People like a range of different sizes and panel types are changing and evolving more aggressively than any other tech market.

Their tv set could be old news within months.

ffrcoupe
Dec 20, 2011, 01:45 AM
IMHO, an Apple TV LCD is inevitable. There are too many rumors about it and with Steve Jobs talking about it before he died; I think Apple will at least try to enter the market. Also, Apple is heavily invested in the market with other products like the iPod, iPad, and Apple TV not to try. There are also enough Appleheads that would love to add an Apple branded LCD TV to their equipment list.

Without a doubt, itís going to have a very clean look, an awesome looking screen, and the polished Apple look. Iím not going to speculate on voice activation or any other features.

That being said, I wonít buy one. I have a nice enough LCD TV so I would like Apple to continue with the Apple TV box and hopefully release an upgrade to it (1080p, A5 chip, etc.) alongside the new Apple TV LCD.

bp1000
Dec 20, 2011, 05:01 AM
That being said, I wonít buy one. I have a nice enough LCD TV so I would like Apple to continue with the Apple TV box and hopefully release an upgrade to it (1080p, A5 chip, etc.) alongside the new Apple TV LCD.

Thats what i think, everyone already has really nice TVs. We are used to putting extra boxes underneath the TV.

Surely it would make more sense to create a STB version instead which you can pair with any TV and it will have several tuners / cable feeds and HDD for recordings, along with all the other stuff.

It really would have to be special for people to switch their tv, some crazy integration into the set itself.

johnnyfuggles
Dec 20, 2011, 04:59 PM
I work in one of the large department stores in the UK. Went to purchase an Apple TV today as a gift and none in stock. I asked when would they be in and was informed that they had been instructed by Apple yesterday to remove all stock and return to Apple due to an imminent update.
Make from that what you will but the Apple guy I spoke to seems to think its a software upgrade to integrate the likes of iplayer here in the uk.

bp1000
Dec 20, 2011, 05:54 PM
I work in one of the large department stores in the UK. Went to purchase an Apple TV today as a gift and none in stock. I asked when would they be in and was informed that they had been instructed by Apple yesterday to remove all stock and return to Apple due to an imminent update.
Make from that what you will but the Apple guy I spoke to seems to think its a software upgrade to integrate the likes of iplayer here in the uk.

It's always hard to know with apple rumours but none of the big stores are replenishing stock in the uk like you say.

I hope they update soon. I have a drive full of movies and a lot of time off to rent films :)

bp1000
Dec 20, 2011, 08:07 PM
Having said that, Amazon UK updated their page in the last few hours

Stock coming on the 23rd Dec
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MC572B-A-New-TV/dp/B0040GIZUC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324433165&sr=8-1

jeffburk
Dec 20, 2011, 09:30 PM
According to the Wall Street Journal, Apple will be delving into the TV market, although timing is uncertain.

In any event, an Apple TV still has a lot to offer, especially for the price. I have four and am buying two more to give as gifts this Christmas.

There have been numerous software updates the last couple of week, although still not one that restores putting all the seasons of a TV show under the same menu.

heimbachae
Dec 20, 2011, 09:32 PM
wait if you can, of you can't then go buy one. Its 100 bucks, what is there to lose?

JoeShades
Dec 21, 2011, 12:25 AM
wait if you can, of you can't then go buy one. Its 100 bucks, what is there to lose?

100 bucks once apple puts out a tv and discontinues the set top box, you really think they will continue supporting the current appletv?

ffrcoupe
Dec 21, 2011, 01:18 AM
100 bucks once apple puts out a tv and discontinues the set top box, you really think they will continue supporting the current appletv?

Um, yeah.

jeffburk
Dec 21, 2011, 10:16 AM
100 bucks once apple puts out a tv and discontinues the set top box, you really think they will continue supporting the current appletv?

Apple will put out a TV, but timing is uncertain. The ATV is reasonably priced and provides very good features now. And it is not as if the ATV will stop working as soon as Apple puts out a TV. Holding off on spending $100 to buy something very useful now in order to wait to spend $1,000 or more on something that may come out in the next six to 18 months does not make much sense to me.

crzdcolombian
Dec 21, 2011, 10:45 AM
a new apple tv set box and a new actual tv made by apple is a big difference. Do you really think you can afford an actual Apple tv? A 55 inch one will prob be like $3-4k. It will be at that special section of best buy with the nice furniture where it's like yea your super poor.

It will also be their 1st tv? Do you want to be the 1st person to get a Apple Tv. Do you remember all the problems they had when they switched to Intel chips?

I for one don't think an actual Apple tv will be affordable or even worth the difference in price with a top quality Samsung tv. Apple is a company that likes to make money and they like a certain profit margin. The TV won't be cheap and really what can they do to upgrade a tv set? Siri? After a week of Siri how many people even still use it? I am an Apple fan boy but unless you really need a new tv, why is there ever a reason to get a new one?

I don't have an apple tv but I have a hacked Xbox 360 that is cheaper plays games and does all the apple tv($100) can do but better.

slothrob
Dec 22, 2011, 08:52 AM
I don't have an apple tv but I have a hacked Xbox 360 that is cheaper plays games and does all the apple tv($100) can do but better.
Where is an XBox 360 cheaper than an aTV2?

darster
Dec 22, 2011, 07:48 PM
I have tried the Roku 2 XS, ATV2 and now the Boxee Box. Sold the Roku 2 because I am not satisfied with the performance. ATV2 interface is nice, but after now watching content on the Boxee, I will have to say the Boxee is by far ghe best device out there. Netflix is impressive as is NHL hockey. The VUDU app is great and has just as much content as ATV and streams at 1080p. Plus the repository of 3rd party apps allows for the ability to stream just about anything. The cost is more $169 vs $99 and the interface isnt as polished as the ATV2, but as far as content and quality, the Boxee seems to provide all I need. Oh yea, one can now use airplay with the boxee.

ffrcoupe
Dec 22, 2011, 10:30 PM
Where is an XBox 360 cheaper than an aTV2?

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