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MacRumors
Dec 19, 2011, 01:17 PM
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A firefighter in the Pennsylvanian town of East Brandywine experienced a close call with his iPhone 4 earlier this month, according to a post (http://www.ebfc49.org/apps/public/news/newsView.cfm?News_ID=251) on the East Brandywine Fire Company's website.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/12/toastyiphonesm.jpg

(http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/12/toastyiphone.jpg)While charging the phone using the Apple provided computer connection, the phone spontaneously caught fire.

After the phone fell to the floor igniting the carpet, the phone was thrown out a nearby window.

Despite the phone being relatively small it produced a large volume of smoke and a noxious smell.The department notes (http://www.ebfc49.org/apps/public/news/newsView.cfm?News_ID=251) that the phone has been sent to Apple headquarters in California so the company's engineers can investigate the exact cause of the fire.

This isn't the first time an iPhone has caught fire (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/08/report-of-an-iphone-4-catching-fire/), but the incidents appear to be unrelated. Earlier this year, Apple initiated a worldwide replacement program (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/12/apple-launches-worldwide-replacement-program-for-first-generation-ipod-nano/) for the first-generation iPod Nano, which, in rare cases, could overheat and pose a safety risk to users.

Article Link: Firefighter's iPhone 4 "Spontaneously Caught Fire" While Charging (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/19/firefighters-iphone-4-spontaneously-caught-fire-while-charging/)



Bigsk8r
Dec 19, 2011, 01:22 PM
Yikes! That's ugly

echo2011
Dec 19, 2011, 01:26 PM
This is a comforting thing to know when charging my phone overnight.

Quazimojo
Dec 19, 2011, 01:31 PM
Yeah i dont think i will be leaving my 4s plugged in overnight as i am a pretty heavy sleeper and might sleep through a fire...


Also before anyone says this is not confirmed as an issue on the 4s.. I will say i dont want to be the who discovers it is...

Scary stuff indeed.

eNcrypTioN
Dec 19, 2011, 01:32 PM
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This is a comforting thing to know when charging my phone overnight.

Exactly, and I charge my iPhone right next to my bed.

Promerojr
Dec 19, 2011, 01:33 PM
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If you go to save the picture the name of it is toastyiphone.jpg I know it's not THAT funny, just ironic

smalltimewine
Dec 19, 2011, 01:41 PM
Does anyone find it odd that the response of a firefighter was to throw it out a window? Sure, we don't much beyond the description of the event, but that made me chuckle.

echo2011
Dec 19, 2011, 01:46 PM
Does anyone find it odd that the response of a firefighter was to throw it out a window? Sure, we don't much beyond the description of the event, but that made me chuckle.
Wonder if that's in the firefighters training manual?? :D

tomitof
Dec 19, 2011, 01:47 PM
This thing of iPhones going on fire seems like a conspiracy from apple so that you upgrade to the 4S.... just kidding, i love apple and I'm not against it and never will :) :apple:

MrCrowbar
Dec 19, 2011, 01:52 PM
Need a smoke grenade? There's an app for that! :rolleyes:
or
"Siri, I need a smoke. Where did I put my lighter?"

I had that happen on a plastic Macbook altho the battery just swell up. Another time the thin cable of the power brick just started to burn blue and green (forgot in what order, it was the metal fibers burning one after another).

These things happen, it's like slipping in the tub. All you can really do is install smoke alarms and have a fire extinguisher handy. I do, they're cheap life-savers.

Quazimojo
Dec 19, 2011, 01:53 PM
Maybe Apple really does have a kill switch built into the phones..

And it really means KILL the phone :eek:

BlueHedgehog
Dec 19, 2011, 01:56 PM
Despite the phone being relatively small it produced a large volume of smoke and a noxious smell.

Was that the "neurotoxin"? (Portal reference)

emaja
Dec 19, 2011, 01:57 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

chuckles:)
Dec 19, 2011, 02:05 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

Depends on if you can back up that statement with some proof.

fredfnord
Dec 19, 2011, 02:13 PM
...to see what the investigation turns up.

I've seen this happen with faulty (poorly manufactured) batteries before. I've also seen this happen to perfectly innocent devices when an extremely large power surge hits them. (In theory, though, something like that should probably have significantly damaged the power adaptor too.)

Indeed, a power surge in a data center near me a few years ago caused a UPS to explode violently, blowing the metal access panel's door over thirty feet down a corridor. (Which didn't end up having any effect on the machines in the data center: the UPS downstream of that UPS took up the slack for long enough for them to get their generator up and running. Good service!)

room237
Dec 19, 2011, 02:29 PM
Wonder if that's in the firefighters training manual?? :D

Well, it IS in the manual that you should never use water on an electrical fire, so to remove the smoldering object from the dwelling may have been the quickest and safest response. :)

*LTD*
Dec 19, 2011, 02:32 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

No, there have just been some stories of it happening. Because it happens to be an iPhone it gets lots of media attention. It's not a common problem.

Here's a couple of Samsung incidents, that were barely spoken about:

http://gizmodo.com/5539192/a-cellphone-exploded-in-my-face

^^^ That one was pretty horrible.

http://www.webpronews.com/galaxy-s-ii-catches-fire-in-guys-pants-2011-12

Cjr605
Dec 19, 2011, 02:52 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

I don't know if it is right to assume that this is being reported just "because it is Apple." I would assume that a website dedicated to delivering Apple news might end up posting something about an Apple device doing this.

And, like the person above me posted, there are other incidents of phone malfunctions which have received press.

lamboman
Dec 19, 2011, 02:56 PM
I am not entirely convinced this is actually true. There have been a suspicious amount of iPhone 4s setting alight lately. Not saying it is definitely untrue, but it seems that one does it, another several do straight afterwards.

Unless of course they are from the same batch, but again we have no evidence of this, and at the rate this is happening, the investigation and recall would be particularly rapid.

emaja
Dec 19, 2011, 02:58 PM
I don't know if it is right to assume that this is being reported just "because it is Apple." I would assume that a website dedicated to delivering Apple news might end up posting something about an Apple device doing this.

I meant that it might be reported more widely in the non-Apple centered media because it was Apple. Of course it is going to be reported here.

paravis
Dec 19, 2011, 02:58 PM
Not trying to say the firefighter is a fool or anything, but shouldn't he be trained to not create a bigger problem by throwing a flaming piece of hardware out the window? Maybe it was raining ...

My phone gets warm sometimes when charging, or if I'm on it for a LONG time with it in my pocket (talking over bluetooth). But after the first time I had it charging on a blanket with a book placed on top of it, when it started roasting I decided that if it got hot enough to catch either the blanket or book on fire, it would be my fault for being so stupid. Same thing happens when the phone is in direct sunlight or if I'm sitting on it. The thing gets really really hot. So considering these things, how dumb do people have to be to insulate their device when it's charging?

I'm pretty sure Apple states very clearly in one of those papers they send packaged with the phone not to cover it, etc when charging. Of course a firefighter would make it sound like the thing was 100% out of control for no reason to keep his reputation of being a "not stupid" firefighter. After he threw it out the window.

I'll bet he was the cool guy down at the station after this happened. But I'm not sold on anything but his stupidity.

sbojevets
Dec 19, 2011, 03:03 PM
what's the fuss
no one reports anything when their non-apple product catches fire
i've heard of friends' nokia's catching fire back in the day, do they post it on the web?

Akack
Dec 19, 2011, 03:12 PM
wow...

Hastings101
Dec 19, 2011, 03:18 PM
I am not entirely convinced this is actually true. There have been a suspicious amount of iPhone 4s setting alight lately. Not saying it is definitely untrue, but it seems that one does it, another several do straight afterwards.

Unless of course they are from the same batch, but again we have no evidence of this, and at the rate this is happening, the investigation and recall would be particularly rapid.

In the past few months an iPhone started smoking on an airplane and one caught on fire while charging, that's not exactly a "suspicious amount" lol

Amazing Iceman
Dec 19, 2011, 03:24 PM
Those awesome high capacity batteries being used on phones and small electronics could turn into fireballs if somehow get short-circuited. Or simply a battery defect.

A loose metal piece, even a metallic nibble could cause an incident like this.
Also, exposure to extreme temperatures could eventually lead to something like this too. I wonder if this Firefighter takes his phone into the fire action.

Also, some phone cases could interfere with the chassis' cooling properties, making the phone run hotter than it should be.

Kilamite
Dec 19, 2011, 03:26 PM
I usually snooze after my iPhone alarm goes off. If my iPhone went up in flames, then I'd definitely get out of bed.

lamboman
Dec 19, 2011, 03:49 PM
In the past few months an iPhone started smoking on an airplane and one caught on fire while charging, that's not exactly a "suspicious amount" lol

I'm sure there were more...? I'm positive I've read more than two! Maybe I'm insane...:S

rmwebs
Dec 19, 2011, 04:14 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

Well we're on an Apple fan site, so you're very unlikely to hear if a Nokia 3210 caught fire on here ;) . Generally products obviously dont do this, however I cant think of any other company in recent history that has had to recall products due to exploding batteries, other than Dell. IIRC they had issues with chargers a few years abo.

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Here's a couple of Samsung incidents, that were barely spoken about:

http://gizmodo.com/5539192/a-cellphone-exploded-in-my-face


Not really something you should be shocked about given the link you provided. Gizmodo is probably the most unreliable tech news site out there.

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I am not entirely convinced this is actually true. There have been a suspicious amount of iPhone 4s setting alight lately. Not saying it is definitely untrue, but it seems that one does it, another several do straight afterwards.

Unless of course they are from the same batch, but again we have no evidence of this, and at the rate this is happening, the investigation and recall would be particularly rapid.

They wouldn't have given it to Apple if it was false. A full analysis on the device will show the cause, and it would be very obvious to them if it was a fake. What possible benefit has a local fire department got in lying about this?

Personally I'd say that if this keeps happening, Apple will have to start looking at a small recall of suspect batches (we're talking only a few thousand devices here, not some big scale recall). The last thing they need is to be sued when someones face gets burnt!

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what's the fuss
no one reports anything when their non-apple product catches fire
i've heard of friends' nokia's catching fire back in the day, do they post it on the web?

Well they wouldn't post it on an APPLE fansite...why the heck do you think the post exists? It belongs on mac rumors.

Floris
Dec 19, 2011, 04:21 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

Well, this IS an Apple news web site. Not general electronics r Us rumors .com - You're free to browse that web site instead if you want flaming toaster scandal news, blah blah. #foreveralone.

moonman239
Dec 19, 2011, 04:37 PM
I sleep just light enough that I would probably know if my electronics caught on fire.


LOL, could the phone at least have given him advanced warning? It could have said something like "iPhone will burst into flames in 5,4,3,2,1."

Rocko1
Dec 19, 2011, 04:38 PM
Probrably using cheap Commy designed charger.

rmwebs
Dec 19, 2011, 04:43 PM
Probrably using cheap Commy designed charger.

"Designed by Apple in California"

Dont start ;)

kdarling
Dec 19, 2011, 04:47 PM
Incidents like these are partly why it's against FAA rules to pack loose lithium batteries in your checked baggage.

I can think of no more horrible and preventable way to die, than to be in an airplane where the cargo hold is on fire.

Rocko1
Dec 19, 2011, 04:50 PM
"Designed by Apple in California"

Dont start ;)

Yeah had to change the made with designed.

The Apple cube wall charger clones for $1.50 on ebay do act strange. High pitch squealing, make your iPhone act crazy while charging, etc.

Yvan256
Dec 19, 2011, 05:26 PM
Product: iPod nano
Serial Number: 0X0000XXXXX
Repair ID: X00000000
Service Requested: November 12, 2011
Status: Product replacement pending

Step 1 - Request. November 23, 2011: Product received
Step 2 - Service. November 23, 2011: Issue identified
Step 3 - Return. November 23, 2011: Product replacement pending

Still waiting. :(

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I sleep just light enough that I would probably know if my electronics caught on fire.


LOL, could the phone at least have given him advanced warning? It could have said something like "iPhone will burst into flames in 5,4,3,2,1."


(Siri voice) "Oh, dear. I'm on fire. I need to take a bath. Please help."

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what's the fuss
no one reports anything when their non-apple product catches fire
i've heard of friends' nokia's catching fire back in the day, do they post it on the web?

In the same line of thinking, I have to say that my Mac mini has never caught fire.

NY Guitarist
Dec 19, 2011, 05:30 PM
I'll bet he was the cool guy down at the station after this happened. But I'm not sold on anything but his stupidity.

I didn't see where he had his iPhone "insulated" while charging. Maybe I missed that part?

I don't see the stupidity anywhere. Maybe I'm just stupid or maybe it's you?

I think throwing a burning device out of the window was very smart, showed presence of mind to keep the event under control and prevent it from escalating, and took a bit courage to handle a burning device that was potentially explosive.

Big-TDI-Guy
Dec 19, 2011, 06:03 PM
These batteries have extremely high energy density, and can be compromised in dozens of different ways. As batteries age, they can become unstable, from temp cycles, charge cycles, moisture exposure, pressure changes, reaction of electrolyte, physical shock, even internal crystallization.

So when you manufacture millions upon millions, each of them being used in unpredictable environments, I'm actually amazed we don't hear about exploding iPhones every day.

Swift
Dec 19, 2011, 06:05 PM
Wonder if that's in the firefighters training manual?? :D

Quick and effective. I presume if it landed on the grass outside the window, he wouldn't start a grassfire.

ford9125
Dec 19, 2011, 06:16 PM
There is another thread started yesterday in the iPhone forum where a user shows pictures of an iPhone 4S overheat or short circuit in the phone where the charger cable plugs in.
This incident here is with the iPhone 4, and the other thread is the iPhone 4S, and they don't seem to be caused by the same problem. It's just a coincidence that two fire/overheat threads started at the same time.
Here is the link:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1293515

powers74
Dec 19, 2011, 06:22 PM
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"I threw it on the GROOOUND!!!"

Cruzer442
Dec 19, 2011, 06:30 PM
I am not entirely convinced this is actually true. There have been a suspicious amount of iPhone 4s setting alight lately. Not saying it is definitely untrue, but it seems that one does it, another several do straight afterwards.

Unless of course they are from the same batch, but again we have no evidence of this, and at the rate this is happening, the investigation and recall would be particularly rapid.

What "rate" is that?

jlgolson
Dec 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
Not trying to say the firefighter is a fool or anything, but shouldn't he be trained to not create a bigger problem by throwing a flaming piece of hardware out the window? Maybe it was raining ...
I don't know about you, but for me

Fire outside the house > fire inside the house.

HyperX13
Dec 19, 2011, 07:30 PM
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Doesn't surprise me. First two iPhone 4s got so hot to touch I could not hold them. On my 3rd. So far so good!

Exotic-Car Man
Dec 19, 2011, 09:15 PM
A firefighter in the Pennsylvanian town of East Brandywine experienced a close call with his iPhone 4 earlier this month

Nice pun.

Eldiablojoe
Dec 19, 2011, 09:28 PM
Well, he wouldn't be the first Puddle Monkey who staged a fire to enhance his "hero" status...

http://www.nvfc.org/files/documents/FF_Arson_Report_FINAL.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Leonard_Orr

dontwalkhand
Dec 19, 2011, 09:59 PM
Eeep, I sleep with the phone IN my bed so I can use an app that measures how I shift when I sleep. The app is called Sleep Cycle...but now I am afraid to use the app.

charlituna
Dec 19, 2011, 10:11 PM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?
Neither. You are someone that pays attention.

Yes things related to Apple get reported a lot more than things related to other companies. And whenever possible, sites use any tiny connection to Apple in the headlines. Such as the articles about this weekend's explosion in China. Apple is one client of the company and there was no proof that the building in question was ever going to be doing anything related to Apple when it was finally in use. But it was labeled as an "iPad factory"

Apple gets hits, hits make sites money.

JayLenochiniMac
Dec 19, 2011, 10:13 PM
Does anyone find it odd that the response of a firefighter was to throw it out a window? Sure, we don't much beyond the description of the event, but that made me chuckle.

I agree. A firefighter can't handle a little burning phone and threw it out of a window where it may lead to further problem depending on where it lands and comes into contact with?

charlituna
Dec 19, 2011, 10:14 PM
I am not entirely convinced this is actually true. There have been a suspicious amount of iPhone 4s setting alight lately.


What 5 reported incidents. Even if we go with only 1 in every 10 such cases makes it to the press that's 50 out of millions of iPhone 4s. Heck 500 out of several million isn't really suspicious at this point since we lack any proof of the full factors around those few cases. Factors such as if a phone had ever been dropped with any level of force and perhaps suffered internal damage that pierced the battery (exposing the internal chemicals to water or oxygen which caused it to ignite). Or perhaps it was jailbroken and the resulting 'adjustment' to the OS screwed with the battery sensor software so it didn't stop charging when the battery was full. And so on.

KiwiAdventure
Dec 19, 2011, 10:56 PM
iPhone 4 combusts on Australian flight


http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/28/iphone-4-self-combusts-on-australian-flight-looks-madder-than-a/

LarryC
Dec 19, 2011, 11:25 PM
I am amazed that this story was even posted on this site. As far as the fire fighter throwing the phone out of the window is concerned, it seems like a pretty good move to me. It was his phone and it was his home, so I'm pretty sure that he was aware of what was and wasn't there. Thank God, it didn't end up with the whole house going up in flames and someone getting killed.

MacTech68
Dec 19, 2011, 11:45 PM
Well, it IS in the manual that you should never use water on an electrical fire, so to remove the smoldering object from the dwelling may have been the quickest and safest response. :)

Actually, for a small hand-held device or laptop fire where lithium batteries are involved, water and plenty of it is probably the most effective way to prevent a thermal runaway. Picking up a device that is smoking or on fire that contains lithium batteries is probably the LEAST safest thing you could do. A cell could, at that moment, explode in your hands.

If there is fire, that can be extinguished, but the batteries can still be increasing in temperature and further fires and explosions can occur.

Continuing to douse the device in water effectively cools the batteries, whereas most fire extinguishers will not. Using ice is NOT effective either.

See the FAA tests on extinguishing laptop battery fires:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6KA_Si-m8

especially @ 6:14 where only a halon extinguisher is used.

Original 83MB wmv is here:
http://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/2007Conference/files/Training_Videos/ThursPM/Videos/Laptop_master.wmv

Tests comparing Lithium-Ion and Lithium-Polymer are available here:

http://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/pdf/09-55.pdf

Interestingly, Lithium-Polymer (the type used in more modern hand helds and laptops) had a lower self-ignition temperature and reached a much higher maximum temperature during the event. :eek:

DESNOS
Dec 20, 2011, 03:06 AM
My question: Was the charger legit, or bootleg? Even non-Apple can be legit, but quite a few iPhone charges are rather questionable...

HellDiverUK
Dec 20, 2011, 08:35 AM
My question: Was the charger legit, or bootleg? Even non-Apple can be legit, but quite a few iPhone charges are rather questionable...

The way I read it, "Apple provided computer connection" means he plugged the lead in to a computer to charge.

No mention of a charger...

mixel
Dec 20, 2011, 09:08 AM
Pfft, my Macbook fire was still better. ;) (joking!)

Lets hope for a future where batteries can't do this!

ZipZap
Dec 20, 2011, 09:23 AM
Is this a new option in "Find my iphone"?

portishead
Dec 20, 2011, 01:33 PM
I wouldn't put much stock in anything anyone says in Pennsylvania. It's a pretty crappy state.

chrono1081
Dec 20, 2011, 03:03 PM
Although very unfortunate, electronics catching on fire is not unheard of.

I wish I could find it but I can't, I had a video of a laptop that caught fire at work. All you could really see was smoke and aftermath after it was extinguished not the fire itself since it was put out immediately.

NY Guitarist
Dec 20, 2011, 03:51 PM
I wouldn't put much stock in anything anyone says in Pennsylvania. It's a pretty crappy state.

Really? I hope this was intended as sarcasm, otherwise it makes you look narrow-minded and irrational.

If not, perhaps you can share how you came to this conclusion?

Rakusan2
Dec 20, 2011, 04:28 PM
This guy could have been getting too many volts in his electrical outlet at that time the iPhones battery started to melt.

Detlev_73
Dec 20, 2011, 04:45 PM
Hmmm...this isn't good. Though something tells me that this guy wasn't charging it right.

AndyinAtl
Dec 20, 2011, 05:24 PM
Electricians like to joke that smoke is factory installed. It is critical to the operation of the electronic device. Once all the smoke is let out...;)

the8thark
Dec 21, 2011, 04:53 AM
Here's a couple of Samsung incidents, that were barely spoken about
If you'd linked the article from another site fine. But Gizmodo lets just say after all the stunts they've pulled I think anything on their sites is utter BS. Heck if you think MacRumors is bad Gidmodo is 1000x worse. Those people give the internet a bad name.

Porco
Dec 21, 2011, 07:53 AM
Well if it is going to happen to anyone lucky it's a Firefighter I guess.

Policeman's iPhone "develops criminally sluggish UI"

Pilot's iPhone "crashes as it hits the ground"

Doctor's iPhone "in need of surgery"...

etc.

roadbloc
Dec 21, 2011, 08:46 AM
Not trying to say the firefighter is a fool or anything, but shouldn't he be trained to not create a bigger problem by throwing a flaming piece of hardware out the window? Maybe it was raining ...

My phone gets warm sometimes when charging, or if I'm on it for a LONG time with it in my pocket (talking over bluetooth). But after the first time I had it charging on a blanket with a book placed on top of it, when it started roasting I decided that if it got hot enough to catch either the blanket or book on fire, it would be my fault for being so stupid. Same thing happens when the phone is in direct sunlight or if I'm sitting on it. The thing gets really really hot. So considering these things, how dumb do people have to be to insulate their device when it's charging?

I'm pretty sure Apple states very clearly in one of those papers they send packaged with the phone not to cover it, etc when charging. Of course a firefighter would make it sound like the thing was 100% out of control for no reason to keep his reputation of being a "not stupid" firefighter. After he threw it out the window.

I'll bet he was the cool guy down at the station after this happened. But I'm not sold on anything but his stupidity.
Really?

If something is on fire in my house, I'd sooner throw it out of the window and let it burn a bit of my lawn rather than let it burn my house down.

clownie
Dec 21, 2011, 09:11 AM
Lipoly batteries are inherently unstable, that is why they have such a good charge density. There are many ways things can get ugly. If the internal resistance goes up in a cell, routine charging amperage starts to heat the cell. If the charger provides a little too much voltage, the the cell heads towards microwave popcorn appearance, then gas vents explosively. I have some monster lipolys from my airplane hobby, and I keep them in a latched metal box. In the hobbyist world, there have been wrecked model planes loaded into the user's car, and a delayed battery fire torching the car. I try to never charge lipoly batteries unattended, or at least try to imagine how the fire (however unlikely) would behave in the charging location... A few fires out a few million devices is about the best one can hope for.

42streetsdown
Dec 21, 2011, 10:47 AM
Does it make me a blind fanboy or just naive to think that this happens to electronics all the time but this case gets reported because it is Apple?

No it doesn't. This is just a danger of the lithium polymer battery technology.

mrsir2009
Dec 21, 2011, 12:56 PM
what's the fuss
no one reports anything when their non-apple product catches fire
i've heard of friends' nokia's catching fire back in the day, do they post it on the web?

Because this is an Apple dedicated website.

If this were a Samsung discussion website, don't you think a news post would be made if a Samsung Galaxy S2 caught fire while charging?