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mrzeve
Jun 3, 2005, 07:40 PM
Hello all.

Well, I have a software site reopening soon and have come down to these two logos.

I know there is not much of a difference but just let me know what you think

The choice is between

http://www.staylazy.net/images/wheels.jpg

and

http://www.staylazy.net/images/nowheels.jpg

Keep in mind, the logo that you chose (without the text) will appear on everything. Like in the URL bar, on the top of the website, and in the programs created them self.

Id rather have others make the choice by vote then me doing it. Let me know.



eyeon
Jun 3, 2005, 07:52 PM
no wheels, without a doubt. Much simpler, cleaner, clearer! The wheels imply movement, even though the guy isn't burning any calories... maybe this is what you want, but it's just something to consider.

But my vote is for no wheels. Good luck!

mad jew
Jun 3, 2005, 07:57 PM
Yeah, no wheels is better IMO. Plus, maybe put his legs a little closer together so it's not quite as provocative.

njmac
Jun 3, 2005, 08:05 PM
I vote for without the wheels. Looks neater.

krossfyter
Jun 3, 2005, 08:42 PM
Yeah, no wheels is better IMO. Plus, maybe put his legs a little closer together so it's not quite as provocative.


yeah cross them.

MacFan25863
Jun 3, 2005, 08:59 PM
No wheels here. The wheels look like a cheep paint creation, IMHO.

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 3, 2005, 09:12 PM
yeah cross them.


Agree here too.

Mr. Anderson
Jun 3, 2005, 09:16 PM
I don't really care for either, but given the choice its no wheels

I think you're missing something in the logo in general and maybe you need to work with the no wheels version and tweak it a bit.

D

tech4all
Jun 4, 2005, 12:01 AM
I vote for the no wheel as well. And I sorta agree with Mr. Anderson. I feel the logo is too plain and static. I mean I see a person relaxing on a chair, but the rendering of the actual elements is too plain. You only have two different line weights that don't tapper off or anything. I don't think the character looks as "relaxed" as it could be; it looks like it's doing a sit up or sitting up but not leaning back on the chair.

I'm not sure on the look and feel of the company, but maybe you could make the logo on an angle instead of a front view as it makes it look too structured. And since the name of the company has the word "lazy" in it, I don't think a structured logo would represent lazy too well. Maybe something not so symmetrical? Vary the line weight? Make the head an oval instead of a perfect circle.

This isn't meant to put you down in anyway at all. I'm just giving an honest critique on the way I see it. If you do any revisions, please do post them.

Good luck! :)

killuminati
Jun 4, 2005, 12:26 AM
I say go for no wheels. Wheels looks like it was quickly done and just of poor quality.

dotdotdot
Jun 4, 2005, 08:39 AM
I'm not digging the logo, but if you really want to use it, ditch the wheels.

mrzeve
Jun 4, 2005, 11:46 AM
Those who arent fans of the logo (without wheels), what would you change, or do different.

Idk I kind of like the legs uncrossed, makes it seems very slackery.

mkrishnan
Jun 4, 2005, 12:05 PM
Those who arent fans of the logo (without wheels), what would you change, or do different.

Hmmm...maybe a pair of sunglasses? :D

James Philp
Jun 4, 2005, 12:10 PM
Look at the following:
http://ipodlounge.com/assets/images/logo05.gif
Similar concept, different execution.
Your logo kind of reminded me of it :)
I'd go for no wheels, but seriously consider a "mark II" version that is very tweaked.

dubbz
Jun 4, 2005, 01:24 PM
The NoWheels version looks better. Crossed legs might look nicer... It's an OK concept, but looks a little primitive. What app did you use to draw it?

Lau
Jun 4, 2005, 02:05 PM
Look at the following:
http://ipodlounge.com/assets/images/logo05.gif
<snip>
I'd go for no wheels, but seriously consider a "mark II" version that is very tweaked.

I'd agree. What about a lounger a bit like the one above in a solid colour, but with a vectored silhouetted figure (in another colour) on it lounging. Would look a bit more professional than a stick figure, in my opinion.

MontyZ
Jun 4, 2005, 02:29 PM
I agree: no wheels.

I also agree it's not a very good logo. I hope you didn't pay a designer to come up with that. I mean, for god's sake, it's a stick figure!

Hire a real designer to make a real logo if you want it done right. No point in starting out with a logo that makes your brand look amateur or cheap.

Moxiemike
Jun 4, 2005, 02:35 PM
Those who arent fans of the logo (without wheels), what would you change, or do different.

Idk I kind of like the legs uncrossed, makes it seems very slackery.


I'd hire a real designer and get a truly professional logo you'll be proud of for a long time.

iGary
Jun 4, 2005, 02:44 PM
I'd hire a real designer and get a truly professional logo you'll be proud of for a long time.

I agree. I did the same. Very happy with the results:


http://homepage.mac.com/garybooberry/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-06-04%2012.43.24%20-0700/Image-D6FB835AD53011D9.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/garybooberry/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-06-04%2012.43.24%20-0700/Image-D6FBA0C4D53011D9.jpg

It's worth the money.

Moxiemike
Jun 4, 2005, 03:00 PM
I agree. I did the same. Very happy with the results:


http://homepage.mac.com/garybooberry/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-06-04%2012.43.24%20-0700/Image-D6FB835AD53011D9.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/garybooberry/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-06-04%2012.43.24%20-0700/Image-D6FBA0C4D53011D9.jpg

It's worth the money.


now THOSE are logos! ;)

nicely done. clean. smart. classy. perfect/

mrzeve
Jun 4, 2005, 03:10 PM
My software is freeware, so theres no way Im going to pay for someone to make a logo haha.

Moxiemike
Jun 4, 2005, 03:18 PM
My software is freeware, so theres no way Im going to pay for someone to make a logo haha.

Well. That's just bad marketing. As is giving stuff away for free. ;)

MontyZ
Jun 4, 2005, 04:23 PM
My software is freeware, so theres no way Im going to pay for someone to make a logo haha.
Then don't use a logo. Why not just use a distinctive typeface for the name of the product and pick a good color and use those consistently instead. Then if you ever turn the freeware into pay-ware, you can hire a designer to make a really nice logo.

Or, you can try to find an inexpensive generic logo that you can customize on one of those one-size-fits-all template sites (http://www.boxedart.com/phpshop/members.php/view/mp_/3/48/allon).

mrzeve
Jun 4, 2005, 05:09 PM
Then don't use a logo. Why not just use a distinctive typeface for the name of the product and pick a good color and use those consistently instead. Then if you ever turn the freeware into pay-ware, you can hire a designer to make a really nice logo.

Or, you can try to find an inexpensive generic logo that you can customize on one of those one-size-fits-all template sites (http://www.boxedart.com/phpshop/members.php/view/mp_/3/48/allon).

Not to be a shmuck, but this wasnt the question on hand. I was simply asking for a choice between the two.

munkle
Jun 4, 2005, 05:28 PM
Not to be a shmuck, but this wasnt the question on hand. I was simply asking for a choice between the two.

Not trying to be a schmuck back, but honestly I'd go with neither.

Your logo is part of your product, it helps create an impression with the user. I understand that your app is freeware but a little more attention would go a long way in creating a favourable first impression. Just look at your dock, would you want that dude sitting there spread-eagled, looking like he's waiting to get 'serviced'? Wheels or no wheels.

I know you don't really want to hear this and I'm not trying to be a *insert appropriate pre-filtered word here* but I'd listen to some of the feedback you've gotten. Best of luck with your app.

MontyZ
Jun 4, 2005, 05:30 PM
It's always difficult to convince a client to divorce a logo they are still in love with, even if it's abusing their image.

tech4all
Jun 4, 2005, 05:38 PM
Out of curiousity, what app are you using to design this logo with?

James Philp
Jun 4, 2005, 05:58 PM
Out of curiousity, what app are you using to design this logo with?
I thought that - It is kinda critical!

mrzeve
Jun 4, 2005, 06:10 PM
Im having a friend do it for me. Hes simply doing it as a favor. He doesnt do these kind of things. Im not sure what hes using.

Oh, some background btw.

Mainly software (for windows users) that adds more functions to there iPod.

I had 2 that were out. Weather for Me (http://www.engineeredaudio.com/press/ipodarticle.pdf - featured in the NY Times) and Canto Pod (featured in iTunes and iPod hacks book).

Weather for Me downloads a weather forecast to your iPod, but I faced legal battle with Weather.com and had to take it down. Im soon re-releasing it, but I am hesitant because I do not have an international weather source (see: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=127862).

Canto Pod downloaded song lyrics to your iPod, and when I rerelease that, its gonna be huge.

munkle
Jun 4, 2005, 06:25 PM
Not sure what's available in the Windows world but how does your app stack up against LyriPod (http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/13918)?

mrzeve
Jun 4, 2005, 06:54 PM
The old version only suffered because it didnt have a good lyric source (I created sharelyrics.net to work with it, but I only have about 5000 lyrics on there).

Ive struck a deal with a major lyric site so once the new version is out, I really think it will blow LyriPod. Im going to have a really nice UI, and a lot of extra features.

MontyZ
Jun 4, 2005, 07:08 PM
You might try to find a design student or a designer willing to do it for free just to get experience. As the logo is for a free product, you might be more likely to get some bites.

lazyboy922
Jun 5, 2005, 10:05 PM
Simplicity is best. Go without the wheels. If you want some design work done for a small fee, email my old professor, Chris, at Michigan state University.

corneal@msu.edu

He can have his students work on it for you. It's a class we had to work with real world clients. But just because I say students, does not mean they are by any means less than professional. They must be selected by professors to be able to join the class. They just require a small donation to help with funds for design classes. I might be able to help, but I am quite busy the next month or so.

Hope this helps!

Don

Moxiemike
Jun 6, 2005, 06:28 AM
Simplicity is best. Go without the wheels. If you want some design work done for a small fee, email my old professor, Chris, at Michigan state University.

corneal@msu.edu

He can have his students work on it for you. It's a class we had to work with real world clients. But just because I say students, does not mean they are by any means less than professional. They must be selected by professors to be able to join the class. They just require a small donation to help with funds for design classes. I might be able to help, but I am quite busy the next month or so.

Hope this helps!

Don

This is a great idea-- portfolio piece and a few bucks for a poor design student. I lived off of stuff like this when I was in design school.

m

mrzeve
Jun 8, 2005, 09:23 PM
I tried emailing the professer but I think his spam filter might have averted my message.

Think you can let him know of this thread?

biohazard6969
Jun 8, 2005, 09:48 PM
i didn't know wat it was supposed to be untill i looked at the one with wheels but w/e

mrzeve
Jun 24, 2005, 12:05 PM
Ok guys, another oppinion. What sounds better.

Staylazy.net software

or

Staylazy software

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 24, 2005, 08:29 PM
Ok guys, another oppinion. What sounds better.

Staylazy.net software

or

Staylazy software


Staylazy.net software sounds as if the software has to do with the internet. So the latter sounds better to me.

mkrishnan
Jun 25, 2005, 03:16 PM
If you're really lazy, don't bother capitalizing either. ;) :D

mrzeve
Jun 25, 2005, 03:37 PM
If you're really lazy, don't bother capitalizing either. ;) :D

What wouldnt you want capitalized.

staylazy software
staylazy.net software
or just
staylazy

mkrishnan
Jun 25, 2005, 03:39 PM
I think I like staylazy by itself. Nice and simple. staylazy software is ok too though.

20rogersc
Jun 28, 2005, 08:57 AM
I think I prefer staylazy software, but to be honest, I think you should have another think about the logo. Maybe do what is happening in one of the other threads about Mac Lessons (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=125112&page=2), where he has asked for ideas, and there has been some great things come out of it.

However if you do want to still keep one of your logos, which is not the best option, I would pick the one without wheels.

:20ROGERSC::

mrzeve
Jun 28, 2005, 11:23 AM
I think I prefer staylazy software, but to be honest, I think you should have another think about the logo. Maybe do what is happening in one of the other threads about Mac Lessons (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=125112&page=2), where he has asked for ideas, and there has been some great things come out of it.

However if you do want to still keep one of your logos, which is not the best option, I would pick the one without wheels.

:20ROGERSC::

I think Im going to go with Staylazy. I dont want to have to limit my site to software, and would like to expand it in the future if Id need to without changing everything around (banners, text, etc).

So, anyone have any better ideas for logos?

20rogersc
Jul 6, 2005, 07:41 AM
As said in the Logo Design needed! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=125112) thread, a logo has to be
something iconic and adapatable. This is why you need something simple that will be able to be put onto different things in different sizes, especially if you may change from being a software company.

I think maybe just a certain font with set colours which are individual to you would work, but make sure that the chosen font has an edge, so it would be remembered.

Hope this helps, and if I get an idea I'll post it here.

::20ROGERSC::

mrzeve
Jul 22, 2005, 09:32 PM
I gave in. I used the no wheels one =\

www.staylazy.net