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thepathlesswood
Jan 14, 2012, 11:50 PM
How? And preferably for free? Any help appreciated.



simsaladimbamba
Jan 15, 2012, 12:45 AM
Since this topic comes up a lot and searching does not seem to be successful, here is a little guide on how to transcode .MTS files into .MOV files.

Transcoding .MTS files (AVCHD footage) to an editable format (.MOV)

1. Download ClipGrab (http://clipgrab.de/en), as it has a component (ffmpeg) the next application (2.) needs.
2. Download this Automator script called Rewrap2M4V (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_01/ReWrap2m4v.zip).
3. Drag the .mts file(s) onto the unzipped Rewrap2M4V application.
4. See the results with the new .m4v file(s) being created.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_01/2012_01_15_pA1_MSCtoMOV.png


5. Download MPEG Streamclip (http://www.squared5.com/) and open the resulting .m4v file.
6. Select File > Export to QuickTime (CMD+E).
7. Select your video codec under the Compression selection drop down menu - I chose ProRes 422
8. Select your audio codec under the Sound selection drop down menu - I chose Uncompressed
ProRes and Uncompressed are the proper selections, if you want to edit the video in Final Cut Pro.
You can only choose the Apple Intermediate Codec for use in iMovie and/or Final Cut Express.
9. If the video is interlaced (1080i), select Interlaced Scaling. If the video is progressive (720p, 1080p), deselect Interlaced Scaling.
10. Click Make Movie.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_01/2012_01_15_pA2_MSCtoMOV.png

11. See the resulting .mov file.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_01/2012_01_15_pA3_MSCtoMOV.png


If you have several video files, you can use MPEG Streamclip's Batch List:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_10_2011/msc_BatchList.png

Additional Info:

If you have any problems with no sound being present in the resulting .mov file, download the A52Codec for Mac (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21875/a52codec) and copy the two .component files as indicated by the mounted DMG file.

And then there is also Small tool to convert video containers without reencoding (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1433969)

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 07:41 AM
This is an excellent walkthrough, thank you for doing this.

I see that you can use the batch list to convert multiple m4v files to .mov files, but to convert the original mts files to m4v do they have to be done individually or can you do multiple files here too?

I assume once you've converted to .mov you can delete the m4v files to save space on the hard drive?

Finally, would both imovie and FCP recognise these .mov files from the hard drive and so you don't need to get them from the camera?

simsaladimbamba
Feb 21, 2012, 07:46 AM
This is an excellent walkthrough, thank you for doing this. Is this software free?
ClipGrab is free, ReWrap2M4V is free.

I see that you can use the batch list to convert multiple m4v files to .mov files, but to convert the original mts files to m4v do they have to be done individually or can you do multiple files here too?
Just drag multiple files over the ReWrap2M4V icon.

I assume once you've converted to .mov you can delete the m4v files to save space on the hard drive?
Yes, as long as you keep the .mts files as backup (if you want a backup), as the .mov files are bigger than the .mts files.

Finally, would both imovie and FCP recognise these .mov files from the hard drive and so you don't need to get them from the camera?
Yes, they would, but pay attention to this part:
ProRes and Uncompressed are the proper selections, if you want to edit the video in Final Cut Pro.
You can only choose the Apple Intermediate Codec for use in iMovie and/or Final Cut Express.

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 07:52 AM
Yes, as long as you keep the .mts files as backup (if you want a backup), as the .mov files are bigger than the .mts files.
Thanks once again. How much bigger are the .mov files?


Yes, they would, but pay attention to this part:
ProRes and Uncompressed are the proper selections, if you want to edit the video in Final Cut Pro.
You can only choose the Apple Intermediate Codec for use in iMovie and/or Final Cut Express.

Err, what does this mean? Sorry for my lack of technical knowledge but I have no idea what Apple Intermediate Codec is?
When you say prores and uncompressed is this not quicktime?

simsaladimbamba
Feb 21, 2012, 07:58 AM
Thanks once again. How much bigger are the .mov files?
Depending on resolution and codec, 42 to 100 GB per hour of video.

Err, what does this mean? Sorry for my lack of technical knowledge but I have no idea what Apple Intermediate Codec is?
When you say prores and uncompressed is this not quicktime?
.mov is a QuickTime format/container (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_format_(digital)#Multimedia_container_formats), which can use a variety of codecs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec#Media_codecs) (like the Divx and Xvid codecs found with many .avi files), Apple Intermediate Codec is the codec used for iMovie and FCE compatible footage, ProRes is the codec for FCP compatible footage.

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 08:10 AM
Depending on resolution and codec, 42 to 100 GB per hour of video.

Wow that's a lot. As you're probably realising I'm no computer boff. One of the reasons I'm getting a mac is to speed up my video editing. With the amount of video footage I have if I convert all my mts files to quicktime I'll have no space left on my hard drive (I'm buying a 512GB SSD). I do have a 1TB external HDD that I could use. However, if I use the external HDD rather than SSD I assume this would dramatically slow the system in terms of editing, rendering and saving?

.mov is a QuickTime format/container (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_format_(digital)#Multimedia_container_formats), which can use a variety of codecs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec#Media_codecs) (like the Divx and Xvid codecs found with many .avi files), Apple Intermediate Codec is the codec used for iMovie and FCE compatible footage, ProRes is the codec for FCP compatible footage.

I think I follow now, what you're saying is that when I've converted the files to m4v, when I come to use the MPEG streamclip to convert m4v to quicktime I need to select Apple Intermediate codec if using iMovie, and ProRes if using FCP. If you use the Apple Intermediate Codec will the edited video still be in Full HD? Same question for ProRes?

This has been a very steep learning curve for me as I currently use Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 on the PC which reads mts files from the hard drive and so there's no need to convert files and select codecs. Basically it's idiot proof for numpties like me ;)

simsaladimbamba
Feb 21, 2012, 08:28 AM
Wow that's a lot. As you're probably realising I'm no computer boff. One of the reasons I'm getting a mac is to speed up my video editing. With the amount of video footage I have if I convert all my mts files to quicktime I'll have no space left on my hard drive (I'm buying a 512GB SSD). I do have a 1TB external HDD that I could use. However, if I use the external HDD rather than SSD I assume this would dramatically slow the system in terms of editing, rendering and saving?
It is best to use an external HDD to store the video files you work with, Firewire 800 being the best affordable connection, though Thunderbolt is better, but still a bit pricey.

If you use the Apple Intermediate Codec will the edited video still be in Full HD? Same question for ProRes?
The video will retain its original resolution unless you change settings in MPEG Streamclip.

This has been a very steep learning curve for me as I currently use Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 on the PC which reads mts files from the hard drive and so there's no need to convert files and select codecs. Basically it's idiot proof for numpties like me ;)
While that is easier, it also puts more stress on the CPU, as AVCHD footage is highly compressed and the CPU is needed to decode it properly.
Apple Intermediate Codec and ProRes are editing codecs and are not as CPU intensive, though the "downside" is bigger video files.
I started editing video in the late nineties, and one hour of video footage would take up 13 GB (DV-PAL), thus I am accustomed to give my video footage enough room.
The biggest project I worked on was in SD (not HD) and we had to use 12 TB of HDD capacity to store it, and we even compressed 1/3 of the footage to a tenth of its original size.

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 08:40 AM
It is best to use an external HDD to store the video files you work with, Firewire 800 being the best affordable connection, though Thunderbolt is better, but still a bit pricey.


The video will retain its original resolution unless you change settings in MPEG Streamclip.


While that is easier, it also puts more stress on the CPU, as AVCHD footage is highly compressed and the CPU is needed to decode it properly.
Apple Intermediate Codec and ProRes are editing codecs and are not as CPU intensive, though the "downside" is bigger video files.
I started editing video in the late nineties, and one hour of video footage would take up 13 GB (DV-PAL), thus I am accustomed to give my video footage enough room.
The biggest project I worked on was in SD (not HD) and we had to use 12 TB of HDD capacity to store it, and we even compressed 1/3 of the footage to a tenth of its original size.

Wow that's some big project. I think I'll give iMovie a shot then before spending £200 on FCP. I'm only doing amateur stuff so don't need all the functions of FCP, I just want the best picture quality.

Do FireWire and thunderbolt work with all HDD, or will I need to go and buy a FireWire/thunderbolt compatible external drive?

simsaladimbamba
Feb 21, 2012, 09:00 AM
Do FireWire and thunderbolt work with all HDD, or will I need to go and buy a FireWire/thunderbolt compatible external drive?

Firewire and Thunderbolt are just interfaces like USB 2.0 or USB 3.0, just faster and more capable.
If you buy a Firewire HDD or Thunderbolt HDD, and you have a Firewire 800 port on your Mac (every current Mac except the MacBook Air or a Thunderbolt port on your Mac (every Mac released in 2011), then it will work.
Firewire and Thunderbolt also have the advantage of daisy-chaining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_chain_(information_technology)#Computer_hardware).

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 09:12 AM
Firewire and Thunderbolt are just interfaces like USB 2.0 or USB 3.0, just faster and more capable.
If you buy a Firewire HDD or Thunderbolt HDD, and you have a Firewire 800 port on your Mac (every current Mac except the MacBook Air or a Thunderbolt port on your Mac (every Mac released in 2011), then it will work.
Firewire and Thunderbolt also have the advantage of daisy-chaining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_chain_(information_technology)#Computer_hardware).

Unfortunately my external drives are only USB 2 and USB 3. What Ill probably do is have the files on the computer whilst working on them and then put then on the external drives for long term storage. I'll probably end up buying an external SSD drive one day when they come down in price.

Thanks for all your help, really appreciate it. :)

simsaladimbamba
Feb 21, 2012, 09:27 AM
An external HDD is fast enough, no need to use an SSD for video storage, as one HD stream does only have a data rate of up to 25 MB/s, thus Firewire 800 and any HDD will be fast enough to play two streams concurrently.

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 09:30 AM
An external HDD is fast enough, no need to use an SSD for video storage, as one HD stream does only have a data rate of up to 25 MB/s, thus Firewire 800 and any HDD will be fast enough to play two streams concurrently.

Either way I'd have to buy a new external drive as I don't believe either are FireWire compatible. I'll have to look at the specs.

J4YP34
Feb 21, 2012, 10:30 AM
This is a very good guide if you want to transcode.

However there is an easier way.

Download and install ClipWarp (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap) > Drag .MTS files > ReWrap the files into .MOV formats.

The file size is pretty much the same as the video/audio hasnt been touched, they have simply been re-wrapped to .MOV format which can be imported into FCP.

When you import into FCP you can then choose to transcode on import or (do what I do and) untick "create optimised media"so that the original files are unchanged.

This workflow is super fast and you can rewrap multiple files at once. The only draw back is that it's not free.

snerkler
Feb 21, 2012, 10:32 AM
This is a very good guide if you want to transcode.

However there is an easier way.

Download and install ClipWarp (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap) > Drag .MTS files > ReWrap the files into .MOV formats.

The file size is pretty much the same as the video/audio hasnt been touched.

When you import into FCP you can then choose to transcode on import or (do what I do and) untick "create optimised media"so that the original files are unchanged.
Thanks. Have just replied to the post you made on the other thread.

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 10:00 AM
I have a query about clipwrap. Does it download as an app that I can then copy to an external hard drive and then install on another hard drive, or do you just get one installation? The reason for my question is that I'm going to be getting a SSD and so don't want to pay for the software twice. Will I have to wait until I have my SSD?

simsaladimbamba
Feb 29, 2012, 10:03 AM
I have a query about clipwrap. Does it download as an app that I can then copy to an external hard drive and then install on another hard drive, or do you just get one installation? The reason for my question is that I'm going to be getting a SSD and so don't want to pay for the software twice. Will I have to wait until I have my SSD?

You can install it again, just keep the installer or re-download the application and re-enter the registration information you got after purchasing it.

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 10:19 AM
You can install it again, just keep the installer or re-download the application and re-enter the registration information you got after purchasing it.

Thanks, I can't get that rewrap 2M4v to work. I drag the mts files onto the app like stated but nothing happens. I've downloaded the other apps too

simsaladimbamba
Feb 29, 2012, 10:20 AM
Thanks, I can't get that rewrap 2M4v to work. I drag the mts files onto the app like stated but nothing happens. I've downloaded the other apps too

You have ClipGrab inside your Applications folder?

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 10:24 AM
You have ClipGrab inside your Applications folder?

Yeah

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Figured it out, I had to transfer the rewrap app from downloads to the application folder too :o

simsaladimbamba
Feb 29, 2012, 10:30 AM
Figured it out, I had to transfer the rewrap app from downloads to the application folder too :o

You don't really need to though, I had the ReWrap app in various folders to test it, but maybe Lion is different. But if it works, it works. Computers, bloody bastards.

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 10:38 AM
You don't really need to though, I had the ReWrap app in various folders to test it, but maybe Lion is different. But if it works, it works. Computers, bloody bastards.

You're telling me. The added problem is that I don't know how to use them either :o

Right the numpty of all questions now. I can't remember whether my old camcorder recorded in 1080p or 1080i, is there a way that I can tell if it's interlaced or not? I've gone to file info and it doesn't say there :o

simsaladimbamba
Feb 29, 2012, 10:41 AM
You're telling me. The added problem is that I don't know how to use them either :o
Is this your first?

Right the numpty of all questions now. I can't remember whether my old camcorder recorded in 1080p or 1080i, is there a way that I can tell if it's interlaced or not? I've gone to file info and it doesn't say there :o

In order to find out, what scanning method (progressive or interlaced) your video was recorded with, you can use the following one of the three applications to analyse a sample video file.

VideoSpec (http://laurent.ettouati.free.fr/english/) (free)
MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) (free)
Media Inspector (http://mediainspector.massanti.com/) (2.99 USD € in the Mac App Store (MAS) (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-inspector/id419975242?mt=12))

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 10:49 AM
Is this your first?

My first Mac yes. but I was being harsh on myself. I'm just no IT whizz



In order to find out, what scanning method (progressive or interlaced) your video was recorded with, you can use the following one of the three applications to analyse a sample video file.

VideoSpec (http://laurent.ettouati.free.fr/english/) (free)
MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) (free)
Media Inspector (http://mediainspector.massanti.com/) (2.99 USD € in the Mac App Store (MAS) (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-inspector/id419975242?mt=12))


Thanks :)

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That videospec app has shed some light why some of my videos play in in certain apps and not others. My old camcorder was 1080i, but my new camera is 1080p :rolleyes:

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 11:09 AM
Well I gone with clipwrap after all as the other method didn't have any sound. Also a 250mb mts clip became a 2.2GB .mov clip :eek:

I've noticed that playback of 1080i rewrapped files using quicktime is not great, especially when panning it's very blurry. Also there's a few glitches. 1080p footage plays fine with quicktime. Is this just a quicktime thing, and if I edit with my 1080i footage the final product will be OK?

simsaladimbamba
Feb 29, 2012, 11:16 AM
Well I gone with clipwrap after all as the other method didn't have any sound.
Strange, but maybe the source clip did use some strange codec or you forgot to change a setting in MPEG Streamclip. Maybe use VideoSpec or another application to analyse that source file and attach the report to your next post, if you want to solve the problem.
Does the ReWrap result .m4v file have sound?

Also a 250mb mts clip became a 2.2GB .mov clip :eek:
That is normal, but it was hinted at earlier. You have a highly compressive source, and transcoding it to an editable format makes bigger files. 2.2 GB is nothing really in video editing.

I've noticed that playback of 1080i rewrapped files using quicktime is not great, especially when panning it's very blurry.
That is the nature of interlaced footage and also the result of your camera's ability to record such motion and its sensor (can get very technical now).

Also there's a few glitches. 1080p footage plays fine with quicktime. Is this just a quicktime thing, and if I edit with my 1080i footage the final product will be OK?
I don't know, I use QT Player 7 to playback 1080p/i content using the .mov format, as I find QT X to be sluggish in that regard.
And which editing application have you chosen?

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 11:39 AM
Strange, but maybe the source clip did use some strange codec or you forgot to change a setting in MPEG Streamclip. Maybe use VideoSpec or another application to analyse that source file and attach the report to your next post, if you want to solve the problem.
Does the ReWrap result .m4v file have sound?

The rewrap files play sound. I don't think they're m4v files though


That is normal, but it was hinted at earlier. You have a highly compressive source, and transcoding it to an editable format makes bigger files. 2.2 GB is nothing really in video editing.
No but that was a tiny file. I have some that are over 5GB in mts format so by the time I transcode them to .mov they'll be 500GB :eek:


That is the nature of interlaced footage and also the result of your camera's ability to record such motion and its sensor (can get very technical now).
Plays okay on Windows media player. On QT it's splitting into lines as it pans.


I don't know, I use QT Player 7 to playback 1080p/i content using the .mov format, as I find QT X to be sluggish in that regard.
And which editing application have you chosen?

Can you retrograde to QT 7 then? I haven't edited any video yet, just been playing raw mts and 'raw' .mov (ie the rewrapped ones).

What format can you export from iMovie and FC? Can you export as mts or m2ts? They're the only ones that seem to play on my PS3 and TV?

snerkler
Feb 29, 2012, 11:55 AM
I'm having a few issues with playback of quite a number of video files actually. I have some AVCHD videos I saved in .mp4. Quicktime won't play these and so I installed MPlayerX from the App store. This has the same issue on playback in that when it pans or images move fast the image doesn't stay sharp and it sort of breaks into tiny lines (if this makes sense).

It's nothing to do with the graphics card is it? I was talked out of going for the upgraded mac with 2.4GHz CPU and 1GB GPU as I was advised on here it was unnecessary. The same video files play fine on Windows media player on my PC running a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4500 Series GPU, with 2.13Ghz Intel core 2 duo CPU.

I do hope it's a player issue and I can find one that works.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 09:11 AM
I'm now trying this option of conversion as te rewrapped movies tend to show more blurring than the raw .mts files, ad I'm wondering if it's the way that .mov files are, or if it's a conversion thing. Anyway, I've made the m4v fils and opened these up in the MPEG streamclip, but when I choose export to quicktime there's no option for ProRes in the compression drop box. There's all sorts of options, see below. Why is there no ProRes option?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at150712.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at150655.png

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 09:12 AM
Because you haven't installed FCP X yet.
You could choose the Apple Intermediate Codec instead.

PS: You could try HotSpotShield to get a US based IP address and try downloading FCP X again.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 09:19 AM
Because you haven't installed FCP X yet.
You could choose the Apple Intermediate Codec instead.

Oh right, I didn't know the export changed when you got different software. I've exported a couple of files as AIC and have to say it has improved the blurring issue I was having. I'm going to try editing it on iMovie with this new .mov file and see what the final edited video is like. I've got a feeling I could have wasted £30 on clipwrap :rolleyes:

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One issue I have though is that there's no sound with the files converted with MPEG streamclip, what have I done wrong?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 09:21 AM
I've got a feeling I could have wasted £30 on clipwrap :rolleyes:

Me too, that is why I always recommend the free method I linked you to, to try it first, as using video with a highly compressed codec in an editing application is not really pretty, thus one should at least spend the time using transcoded video first to see, what advantage it has.
But as I have an editing background, I prefer editing with an editing codec and loathe compressed footage.

Have you read the ClipWrap FAQ (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap/faq) yet, as the last entry touches your issues?

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 09:30 AM
edit: double post

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Me too, that is why I always recommend the free method I linked you to, to try it first, as using video with a highly compressed codec in an editing application is not really pretty, thus one should at least spend the time using transcoded video first to see, what advantage it has.
But as I have an editing background, I prefer editing with an editing codec and loathe compressed footage.

Have you read the ClipWrap FAQ (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap/faq) yet, as the last entry touches your issues?

I don't know what it means by uninstall all 3rd party AVC or h.264 components as don't know what these are,let alone which, if any, I have.

Do you know why I'm getting no sound with the method you're suggesting. It's the conversion to m4v that's the issue I think, as the m4v files don't have sound when I play them back. I drag my .mts file directly onto this fellow
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at152745.png

It won't allow me to drag onto this
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at152812.png

When I drag onto the first fellow it creates a m4v file in the orignal .mts location folder, but there's no sound on playback, and no sound when played back after transcoding to .mov

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 09:41 AM
I don't know what it means by uninstall all 3rd party AVC or h.264 components as don't know what these are,let alone which, if any, I have.
QuickTime Components are located in Macintosh HD / Library / QuickTime / and you could try just moving them to your Desktop. If you are unsure which, make a screenshot and attach it here.

Do you know why I'm getting no sound with the method you're suggesting. It's the conversion to m4v that's the issue I think, as the m4v files don't have sound when I play them back. I drag my .mts file directly onto this fellow
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at152745.png

When I drag onto the first fellow it creates a m4v file in the orignal .mts location folder, but there's no sound on playback, and no sound when played back after transcoding to .mov
We may have already done this, but in order to find out, what may be wrong with your videos, you can use the following three applications to analyse a sample .mts file, a rewrapped .m4v file and a transcoded .mov file.

VideoSpec (http://laurent.ettouati.free.fr/english/) (free)
MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) (free)
Media Inspector (http://mediainspector.massanti.com/) (2.99 USD € in the Mac App Store (MAS) (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-inspector/id419975242?mt=12))

When done, you can use the "Report" (VideoSpec) and "Export" (Media Inspector) button to export a report, attachable to your next post via the http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_02/2012_02_MR_attachbutton.png button.
In MediaInfo you have to go to the Menu Bar, select View > Text and copy the text via CMD+A > CMD+C and paste it via CMD+V into your next post.

It won't allow me to drag onto this
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at152812.png
This is a .zip file, it is only a compressed archive and not an application or script. It just holds the app for easier transport.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 09:49 AM
QuickTime Components are located in Macintosh HD / Library / QuickTime / and you could try just moving them to your Desktop. If you are unsure which, make a screenshot and attach it here.


We may have already done this, but in order to find out, what may be wrong with your videos, you can use the following three applications to analyse a sample .mts file, a rewrapped .m4v file and a transcoded .mov file.

VideoSpec (http://laurent.ettouati.free.fr/english/) (free)
MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) (free)
Media Inspector (http://mediainspector.massanti.com/) (2.99 USD € in the Mac App Store (MAS) (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-inspector/id419975242?mt=12))

When done, you can use the "Report" (VideoSpec) and "Export" (Media Inspector) button to export a report, attachable to your next post via the Image (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_02/2012_02_MR_attachbutton.png) button.
In MediaInfo you have to go to the Menu Bar, select View > Text and copy the text via CMD+A > CMD+C and paste it via CMD+V into your next post.


This is a .zip file, it is only a compressed archive and not an application or script. It just holds the app for easier transport.
Ok thanks. I'm away from the Mac at present but will analyze the video files later this evening and post the screenshots.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 12:56 PM
QuickTime Components are located in Macintosh HD / Library / QuickTime / and you could try just moving them to your Desktop. If you are unsure which, make a screenshot and attach it here.


We may have already done this, but in order to find out, what may be wrong with your videos, you can use the following three applications to analyse a sample .mts file, a rewrapped .m4v file and a transcoded .mov file.

VideoSpec (http://laurent.ettouati.free.fr/english/) (free)
MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) (free)
Media Inspector (http://mediainspector.massanti.com/) (2.99 USD € in the Mac App Store (MAS) (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-inspector/id419975242?mt=12))

When done, you can use the "Report" (VideoSpec) and "Export" (Media Inspector) button to export a report, attachable to your next post via the Image (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_02/2012_02_MR_attachbutton.png) button.
In MediaInfo you have to go to the Menu Bar, select View > Text and copy the text via CMD+A > CMD+C and paste it via CMD+V into your next post.


This is a .zip file, it is only a compressed archive and not an application or script. It just holds the app for easier transport.

Ok here's the video spec analysis:-

Original file (AVCHD/.MTS)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/MTS.png

m4v file
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/m4v.png

.mov file
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/mov.png

----------

QuickTime Components are located in Macintosh HD / Library / QuickTime / and you could try just moving them to your Desktop. If you are unsure which, make a screenshot and attach it here.




When you say Macintosh HD, I assume you mean the main hard drive? In which case I've upgraded to a SSD. Anyway I went SSD > Library > Quicktime, and here's the contents of that folder:-

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/Quicktimelibrary.png

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 01:00 PM
Download this (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21875/a52codec) audio codec and copy the two components as indicated in the mounted DMG and see, if you can open the .m4v file in MPEG Streamclip then.
I already have those, maybe you don't have them, thus my ability to use rewrapped .m4v files. Or they come with Mac OS X, I don't know.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 01:08 PM
Download this (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21875/a52codec) audio codec and copy the two components as indicated in the mounted DMG and see, if you can open the .m4v file in MPEG Streamclip then.
I already have those, maybe you don't have them, thus my ability to use rewrapped .m4v files. Or they come with Mac OS X, I don't know.

I've tried this and get the following pop ups

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at190628.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at190456.png

Should I authenticate?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 01:15 PM
Yes, you should authenticate.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 01:31 PM
Yes, you should authenticate.

Thanks, that's done the trick. My only 'gripe' (and it's by no means a big gripe) is that the m4v video and .mov video is slightly darker/more contrasty than the original .mts, any idea why this may be? I'm going to convert my files this way in the future as the quality is far better than with clip wrap. I'll just have to use the external drive as the files will be huge.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 01:42 PM
It's due to MPEG Streamclip (http://www.squared5.com/)'s transcoding process.
There is also 5DtoRGB (http://rarevision.com/5dtorgb/), which offers a much brighter image, but it is for .mov files using the H.264 codec.
As you already bought ClipWrap to get a .mov file, you could then try 5DtoRGB and see, if that is better.
Here is a batch script (http://www.noside.fr/5dtorgb-batch/) for multiple files in a folder.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 01:47 PM
It's due to MPEG Streamclip (http://www.squared5.com/) decoding nature.
There is also 5DtoRGB (http://rarevision.com/5dtorgb/), which offers a much brighter image, but it is for .mov files using the H.264 codec.
As you already bought ClipWrap to get a .mov file, you could then try 5DtoRGB and see, if that is better.
Here is a batch script (http://www.noside.fr/5dtorgb-batch/) for multiple files in a folder.

I don't really want to go that route as the video image is poor with the rewrapped .mov files from clipwrap. I guess I could always tweak the contrast and colour in iMove/FCP though?

It does baffle me why apple software doesn't support .mts to save all this messing around.
In future would I get a better image quality if I imported direct from the camera into iMovie/FCP?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 01:51 PM
Importing directly from the camera is almost always the best.
Or you copy the complete card onto an external HDD, preserving the file structure, thus you could import after deleting the footage from the card.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 01:55 PM
Importing directly from the camera is almost always the best.
Or you copy the complete card onto an external HDD, preserving the file structure, thus you could import after deleting the footage from the card.

What do you mean by and how do I copy the entire file structure?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 02:03 PM
What do you mean by and how do I copy the entire file structure?
This:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/AVCHD_actual_file_structure.jpg
Just copy the entire card to a folder of your choice (one folder per card in a parent folder named after the event with the card folders named as you like).

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 02:12 PM
This:
Image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/AVCHD_actual_file_structure.jpg)
Just copy the entire card to a folder of your choice (one folder per card in a parent folder named after the event with the card folders named as you like).

Here's showing myself up as a total numpty again, what is a card? Is the card each parent folder eg DCIM, MISC, Private, and each of these needs to be stored in individual folders?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 02:16 PM
Here's showing myself up as a total numpty again, what is a card? Is the card each parent folder eg DCIM, MISC, Private, and each of these needs to be stored in individual folders?

You have a camcorder, which probably stores its footage on an SD card?

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 02:18 PM
You have a camcorder, which probably stores its footage on an SD card?

Yep

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 02:21 PM
Yep

That is what I mean with "card". You just copy the entire card.

____________________________________________________________

Maybe have a look at Advanced Search (http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php) to find threads about AVCHD camcorders and proper backing up its media:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2011_11/2011_11_02_pB1_MR_advSearch_small.png (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2011_11/2011_11_02_pB2_MR_advSearch.png)
____________________________________________________________

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 02:23 PM
That is what I mean with "card". You just copy the entire card.

____________________________________________________________

Maybe have a look at Advanced Search (http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php) to find threads about AVCHD camcorders and proper backing up its media:
Image (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2011_11/2011_11_02_pB2_MR_advSearch.png)
____________________________________________________________

oh right :o I guess it gets complicated if you record more than one event on the same card :confused:

Thanks for all your help by the way, it is really appreciated :)

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 02:27 PM
oh right :o I guess it gets complicated if you record more than one event on the same card :confused:
As multiple events probably don't take place on the same day, you can just make a copy of the card at the end of the day once you filmed (depending how important a proper organisation is to you) and empty the card again.
But if you do that, make sure, that the copied contents also gets backed up to another HDD via CarbonCopyCloner (http://www.bombich.com).

Thanks for all your help by the way, it is really appreciated :)
Just send me a good red wine of your region some day. ;)

PS: I might have already posted that in one of your threads:
I have one 500 GB HDD for my photographs (digital and analog) and libraries and editing documents, one 500 GB HDD with my personal video footage in an editing friendly format.
Both 500 GB HDDs get backed up to one 1 TB HDD via CarbonCopyCloner (http://www.bombich.com).
And that 1 TB HDD gets backed up to another 1 TB HDD via CarbonCopyCloner.
Therefore I have three copies of my important data.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 02:31 PM
As multiple events probably don't take place on the same day, you can just make a copy of the card at the end of the day once you filmed (depending how important a proper organisation is to you) and empty the card again.
But if you do that, make sure, that the copied contents also gets backed up to another HDD via CarbonCopyCloner (http://www.bombich.com).


Just send me a good red wine of your region some day. ;)

PS: I might have already posted that in one of your threads:

Why do I need to use carboncopycloner, can I not just copy and paste or drag and drop the entire files structure from my MBP HD to an external HD?
Does time machine not do the same as CCC?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 8, 2012, 02:37 PM
Why do I need to use carboncopycloner, can I not just copy and paste or drag and drop the entire files structure from my MBP HD to an external HD?
Yes, you can, but CCC makes it easier and automatic, it can be set to do that every day. And if Finder happens to encounter an error during the copy process, it will just stop and you have to manually figure out, which data has been copied and which data hasn't.
If that happens during cloning, CCC will go on and tell you afterwards what exact problems occurred.
Does time machine not do the same as CCC?
In a away, but since I have several external HDDs, and TM can only use one HDD to backup to, I use CCC, as I can use any properly formatted HDD I choose to backup to.
But if you have one TM HDD and one data HDD and one system HDD (the one in your Mac), you can set up TM to backup the data and system HDD to the TM HDD. No biggie.

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 02:42 PM
Yes, you can, but CCC makes it easier and automatic, it can be set to do that every day. And if Finder happens to encounter an error during the copy process, it will just stop and you have to manually figure out, which data has been copied and which data hasn't.
If that happens during cloning, CCC will go on and tell you afterwards what exact problems occurred.

In a away, but since I have several external HDDs, and TM can only use one HDD to backup to, I use CCC, as I can use any properly formatted HDD I choose to backup to.
But if you have one TM HDD and one data HDD and one system HDD (the one in your Mac), you can set up TM to backup the data and system HDD to the TM HDD. No biggie.

Thanks again. I do have one HDD that I manually transfer to, and another I use with Time Machine so have 3 copies of everything. Plus I have my old PC laptop and PC desktop with all photos and videos stored on to date. Do you think that's overkill? lol ;)

snerkler
Mar 8, 2012, 04:32 PM
Sometimes I'm getting interference on the sound, which is quite sharp and quite loud. Some files are fine if I go through the whole process again, but some still play up. Any idea why? Here's a couple of analysis (m4v and .mov) of one such clip

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at222821.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at222858.png

wluprocks
Mar 8, 2012, 06:29 PM
ClipWrap is free, ReWrap2M4V is free.


Just drag multiple files over the ReWrap2M4V icon.


Yes, as long as you keep the .mts files as backup (if you want a backup), as the .mov files are bigger than the .mts files.


Yes, they would, but pay attention to this part:

I just have to say thank you very much for your walk through! It helped a lot. I have a question though. How much quality is lost in the MPEGstreamclip transcoding process?

My Dad mailed me files to edit and decided to give them names because he thought it would make it easier. Then he only sent the .mtf and .cpi files, thus leaving out the folder structure and 'master' files. He is not a video guy so he did not realize what he was doing. He still has the original files, so my options are right now to communicate over the phone with him the specific file structure(its different from the one you posted) and have him send each of the 'master' files(which could take a long time since this is not his realm), or transcode the footage and deal with the possible loss.

PS the camera is a VIXIA HFS21
PSS Thanks again!

simsaladimbamba
Mar 9, 2012, 01:47 AM
I just have to say thank you very much for your walk through! It helped a lot. I have a question though. How much quality is lost in the MPEGstreamclip transcoding process?
Depending on which codec one chooses in MPEG Streamclip there is no visual quality loss, as the source is already highly compressed, and if one chooses the .mov container with the Apple Intermediate Codec or ProRes codec, there will be no loss, as those codecs are less lossy than the codec the camera uses.

As matteusclement (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=155943) says:
try this:
take an empty pop can, place it on the floor, smash it flat, now try to pull it back to how it was.
see how it looks like crap? that's called compression

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 01:53 AM
Depending on which codec one chooses in MPEG Streamclip there is no visual quality loss, as the source is already highly compressed, and if one chooses the .mov container with the Apple Intermediate Codec or ProRes codec, there will be no loss, as those codecs are less lossy than the codec the camera uses.

As matteusclement (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=155943) says:

I like that quote, explains it brilliantly.

D you have any thoughts on why I'm getting noise 'interference' (see my previous post)?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 9, 2012, 01:58 AM
D you have any thoughts on why I'm getting noise 'interference' (see my previous post)?

Sometimes I'm getting interference on the sound, which is quite sharp and quite loud. Some files are fine if I go through the whole process again, but some still play up. Any idea why? Here's a couple of analysis (m4v and .mov) of one such clip

Image (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at222821.png)
Image (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-08at222858.png)

I am not sure why that happens, that is where my expertise endsI guess, as I have always an external audio source which is recorded separately and also gets delivered separately, thus I have to combine audio and video again, therefore the audio does not go through all that compression stuff, which is the likely source of the problem.

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 02:08 AM
I am not sure why that happens, that is where my expertise endsI guess, as I have always an external audio source which is recorded separately and also gets delivered separately, thus I have to combine audio and video again, therefore the audio does not go through all that compression stuff, which is the likely source of the problem.

OK, no worries. If it persists I'll see if I can edit it out. I'm also going to try converting internally ie hav everything on the MBP HD rather than converting from the external HDD. After I've converted I can always transfer to the external drive to free up space on the MBP.

Thanks again for all of your help :)

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 02:28 AM
OK, no worries. If it persists I'll see if I can edit it out. I'm also going to try converting internally ie hav everything on the MBP HD rather than converting from the external HDD. After I've converted I can always transfer to the external drive to free up space on the MBP.

Thanks again for all of your help :)

It still has interference if I do everything internally as well. I'll have to see if I can edit it out.

Another question about importing direct from a camera. What happens if you have photos on the same card, would these all get transferred to?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 9, 2012, 02:44 AM
Another question about importing direct from a camera. What happens if you have photos on the same card, would these all get transferred to?

No. Fo that you have to use a photo management software like iPhoto or LightRoom or just do it by hand.

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 06:54 AM
Because you haven't installed FCP X yet.
You could choose the Apple Intermediate Codec instead.

PS: You could try HotSpotShield to get a US based IP address and try downloading FCP X again.

Well I now have FCP installed (trial) but MPEG streamline still doesn't have the option for prores. Here's what I have:-

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/ScreenShot2012-03-09at124357.png

I've tried both the standard version and beta version from the site you posted http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html

Any ideas why I haven't got the prores option?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 9, 2012, 06:56 AM
Have you run FCP X yet?
Have you restarted?
Have you looked inside Macintosh HD / Library / QuickTime for the ProRes 422 component yet?

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 07:53 AM
Have you run FCP X yet?
Have you restarted?
Have you looked inside Macintosh HD / Library / QuickTime for the ProRes 422 component yet?

Ran FCP, and restarted. No prores component in the quicktime, where do I get this from?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 9, 2012, 07:54 AM
Ran FCP, and restarted. No prores component in the quicktime, where do I get this from?

It should be installed.

wluprocks
Mar 9, 2012, 09:11 AM
Depending on which codec one chooses in MPEG Streamclip there is no visual quality loss, as the source is already highly compressed, and if one chooses the .mov container with the Apple Intermediate Codec or ProRes codec, there will be no loss, as those codecs are less lossy than the codec the camera uses.

As matteusclement (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=155943) says:

I just tested it and there is fragmenting around certain types of motion. I kept the file in its Native Frame rate, tried both 422 and 422(lt), selected the proper deinterlace box, and tried it in 1920x1080 and 1440x1080(which is native). No matter what I get fragmenting.

Also, do you know of any plugins to beable to transcode m4v files in compressor?

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 09:25 AM
Well thanks to the huge help from simsaladimbamba I've now got this all to work. I can certainly recommend this method over the clipwrap one, as for me the picture quality is far superior. I had blurring issues with clipwrap, and graininess. This has all gone now.

Bizarrely since installing the prores codec the interference issue I was having on certain clips after transcoding with MPEG Streamline has righted itself (fingers crossed)

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 11:47 AM
I just tested it and there is fragmenting around certain types of motion. I kept the file in its Native Frame rate, tried both 422 and 422(lt), selected the proper deinterlace box, and tried it in 1920x1080 and 1440x1080(which is native). No matter what I get fragmenting.

Also, do you know of any plugins to beable to transcode m4v files in compressor?

I've just converted some interlaced footage and am having fragmenting issues too. It worked perfectly for progressive video though.

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 02:34 PM
I've just converted some interlaced footage and am having fragmenting issues too. It worked perfectly for progressive video though.

So I've tried different interlaced video and it all has issues. Here's the analysis of the different files. Does this give any indication as to whether the problem is converting .mts (.m2ts) to m4v, or from m4v to .mov?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/m2ts.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/m4v-1.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/tobygunnee/mov-1.png

snerkler
Mar 9, 2012, 03:06 PM
Strangely, since I installed those new codecs into my quicktime library the videos are much better when converted by clipwrap now, and probably on par with this method discussed on this thread :confused:

DivineV
Mar 23, 2012, 03:31 PM
I have followed all of the instructions on this forum. Seems simple enough. The files look like they are converting and even create a .m4v extension; however, the converted files are all zero bytes and so mpeg streamclip can't convert them. Suggestions?

snerkler
Mar 23, 2012, 04:05 PM
I have followed all of the instructions on this forum. Seems simple enough. The files look like they are converting and even create a .m4v extension; however, the converted files are all zero bytes and so mpeg streamclip can't convert them. Suggestions?

Have you tried clipwrap? It's much easier and MUCH quicker, and uses less space on your hard drive.

I've also installed wondershare converter as was unhappy with the quality of converting interlaced footage using this method posted on here or clipwrap. This method created fragmentation, and with clipwrap you got a lot of motion blur. Interlaced footage is much better now using wondershare. However, bizarrely progressive footage is worse with wondershare than both clipwrap and this method.

jared52
Mar 26, 2012, 02:43 PM
When I use the method in post 2 I get video but no audio. What am I missing? If I use ClipWrap, I get audio.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 26, 2012, 02:48 PM
When I use the method in post 2 I get video but no audio. What am I missing? If I use ClipWrap, I get audio.

Does the resulting .m4v have audio? If not, what audio codec does the .mts file use? Can you play the .mts in VLC Player and hear audio?

jared52
Mar 26, 2012, 02:56 PM
Does the resulting .m4v have audio? If not, what audio codec does the .mts file use? Can you play the .mts in VLC Player and hear audio?

Yes. I loaded to codecs you mentioned earlier as well. It's working now, though I'm not sure why. A friend of mine gave me his External HDD to make a video and he just copied the files that are the .mts files. It seems there are 2 of each kind that it saves, one with audio and one without, but the one I convert that doesn't have audio after conversion has audio when played in VLC. This is my first experience with MTS. I appreciate your post. Hopefully, I'll be able to get the videos converted properly!

MrXiro
Jun 23, 2012, 11:50 PM
Great 2nd post thanks!

MasterMacBook
Jun 25, 2012, 04:34 AM
To the OP, download handbrake, free, both OSX & windows versions.

Best video converter I have used ever.

If this has been said, disregard my post.

simsaladimbamba
Jun 25, 2012, 05:04 AM
To the OP, download handbrake, free, both OSX & windows versions.

Best video converter I have used ever.

If this has been said, disregard my post.

HandBrake is not an option, as it does not provide .mov output, and HandBrake also does not offer editing codecs like Apple Intermediate Codec or up.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_06%2B07%2B08/2012_06_25_pA1_HandBrakeFormatCodecOptions.png

MasterMacBook
Jun 25, 2012, 06:46 AM
Hmmm well if I remember you can open .mts files in quicktime, just "edit" or "trim", take like 0.01 sec off it, click the red close button, window pops up asking if you want to save, when you do save it is a .mov file. Easy peasy.

I used to do this all the time when I did youtube xbox 360 gameplays etc from my hauppauge hdpvr.

(I am fairly sure this works..)

simsaladimbamba
Jun 25, 2012, 06:52 AM
Hmmm well if I remember you can open .mts files in quicktime, just "edit" or "trim", take like 0.01 sec off it, click the red close button, window pops up asking if you want to save, when you do save it is a .mov file. Easy peasy.

I used to do this all the time when I did youtube xbox 360 gameplays etc from my hauppauge hdpvr.

(I am fairly sure this works..)

And that worked with .mts files without additional plugins besides Perian?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_06%2B07%2B08/2012_06_25_pA2_QTPlayersPerianAndMTSfile.png

MasterMacBook
Jun 25, 2012, 07:06 AM
Hmmm I'll try check when I get home, all my mts files are on my iMac, which won't turn on ATM.... 3hr grey "loading screen".. Sigh.

simsaladimbamba
Jun 25, 2012, 07:09 AM
Hmmm I'll try check when I get home, all my mts files are on my iMac, which won't turn on ATM.... 3hr grey "loading screen".. Sigh.

Have you tried any of these steps?

Mac doesn't boot (http://guides.macrumors.com/Mac_doesn't_boot)

Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility and fsck (http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1417)

Troubleshooting: My computer won't turn on (http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1367)

A flashing question mark appears when you start your Mac (http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1440)

Zeke D
Aug 23, 2012, 09:37 PM
I don't seem to have the right codec. When i do use the closest to what was in your howto, I get a .mov with no sound.

simsaladimbamba
Aug 23, 2012, 09:43 PM
I don't seem to have the right codec. When i do use the closest to what was in your howto, I get a .mov with no sound.

If you want to edit it in iMovie or Final Cut Express, choose the Apple Intermediate Codec for Compressor (Video) and Uncompressed for Sound.

Or do you want to do something else, it isn't clear for me in your other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1427951)?

Zeke D
Aug 23, 2012, 10:19 PM
If you want to edit it in iMovie or Final Cut Express, choose the Apple Intermediate Codec for Compressor (Video) and Uncompressed for Sound.

Or do you want to do something else, it isn't clear for me in your other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1427951)?

I will be using FCE4. I used those two, and the mov doesnt have sound. The original mts has sound when played through VLC 2.03. the corresponding m4v has sound in VLC but not iTunes. the mov from mpegstream does not have sound.

simsaladimbamba
Aug 23, 2012, 10:25 PM
I will be using FCE4. I used those two, and the mov doesnt have sound. The original mts has sound when played through VLC 2.03. the corresponding m4v has sound in VLC but not iTunes. the mov from mpegstream does not have sound.

Post #37 has a solution. If that does not work, use CMD+F and "sound" and look at the remaining posts with that topic. I will edit my original guide and add the solution from post #37.

Zeke D
Aug 24, 2012, 08:11 AM
Post #37 has a solution. If that does not work, use CMD+F and "sound" and look at the remaining posts with that topic. I will edit my original guide and add the solution from post #37.

All right, looks like I am good to go...thanks!

Zeke D
Aug 24, 2012, 11:45 AM
Looks like I will need to do the same for .mbg and .vob as well.

simsaladimbamba
Aug 24, 2012, 12:16 PM
Looks like I will need to do the same for .mbg and .vob as well.

.MPG or .MBG?
And .vob files include an MPEG-2 stream, thus you need the QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback Component (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/extending/components.html) (19.99 USD) for MPEG Streamclip to read a video DVD or .vob file.

Zeke D
Aug 24, 2012, 12:30 PM
.MPG or .MBG?
And .vob files include an MPEG-2 stream, thus you need the QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback Component (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/extending/components.html) (19.99 USD) for MPEG Streamclip to read a video DVD or .vob file.

LOL, MPG I have the quicktime component. I already converted the MPG to MOV. Now if just need to get editing!

nateo200
Sep 13, 2012, 09:20 AM
Alright I've tried all of this including ClipWrap 2, Video Container Switcher, etc. and I CANNOT GET THESE DAMN MTS FILES INTO MOV!!! I've got 64 gigs of footage my boss needs edited and FCP X refuses to transcode any of the clips once I get it imported (and yes I know to copy the entire AVCHD structure it recognizes it but fails to transcode). As you can see in my signature my computer is not as "buff" as what some of you guys have. I have transcoded every other flavor of H.264 formats to ProRes successfully for smaller projects but I just got slammed with 64gigs of .MTS files that pretty much kill my CPU since they can't be transcoded. I usually use MPEG stream clip to transcode video straight off my DSLR but the 64gigs of footage is from a Sony AVCHD camera (I have no clue why they make such a horrendous file structure, its s*** for editing).

simsaladimbamba
Sep 13, 2012, 01:13 PM
Alright I've tried all of this including ClipWrap 2, Video Container Switcher, etc. and I CANNOT GET THESE DAMN MTS FILES INTO MOV!!! I've got 64 gigs of footage my boss needs edited and FCP X refuses to transcode any of the clips once I get it imported (and yes I know to copy the entire AVCHD structure it recognizes it but fails to transcode). As you can see in my signature my computer is not as "buff" as what some of you guys have. I have transcoded every other flavor of H.264 formats to ProRes successfully for smaller projects but I just got slammed with 64gigs of .MTS files that pretty much kill my CPU since they can't be transcoded. I usually use MPEG stream clip to transcode video straight off my DSLR but the 64gigs of footage is from a Sony AVCHD camera (I have no clue why they make such a horrendous file structure, its s*** for editing).

If you like, you can send me a zipped/compressed .mts file (100 to 400 MB, DropBox or 2shared or ...) via PM and I can try myself. I will be available online for the next six hours.

nateo200
Sep 20, 2012, 01:33 PM
If you like, you can send me a zipped/compressed .mts file (100 to 400 MB, DropBox or 2shared or ...) via PM and I can try myself. I will be available online for the next six hours.

Got everything figured out. Just want to say THANKS again even though I already did in my other thread....Ive got six hours of AVCHD footage to edit and like you would rather edit in an editing codec than nasty H.264!

Cox Orange
Feb 12, 2013, 09:38 AM
Sorry, for bringing this up again, after so long time.

I did try it then and it didn't work (under 10.4.), ok I was stupid. Now having 10.5 running, the Apps work, but problems already start with creating the m4v file with the automator.

I get a 0kb file. It gets an iMovie-icon.
When I open it in Mpegstreamclip, it says the file is to small.

Btw. another question. As I understand it, the step-by-step instruction on page1 alters the file size, is that right? I actually just want to keep the quality and just make it readable on my Mac and outside the mediaplayer hooked up to the TV.

(Another test: if I double click, it says I need a newer version of QT (7.5.5). I don't know why "software-update" has not updated it (it is 7.2.2), but I then moved QT 7.6.2 from my other Mac to it. Did not work.)

simsaladimbamba
Feb 12, 2013, 10:19 AM
Sorry, for bringing this up again, after so long time.

I did try it then and it didn't work (under 10.4.), ok I was stupid. Now having 10.5 running, the Apps work, but problems already start with creating the m4v file with the automator.

I get a 0kb file. It gets an iMovie-icon.
When I open it in Mpegstreamclip, it says the file is to small.

Btw. another question. As I understand it, the step-by-step instruction on page1 alters the file size, is that right? I actually just want to keep the quality and just make it readable on my Mac and outside the mediaplayer hooked up to the TV.

(Another test: if I double click, it says I need a newer version of QT (7.5.5). I don't know why "software-update" has not updated it (it is 7.2.2), but I then moved QT 7.6.2 from my other Mac to it. Did not work.)

It seems, Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is needed for this procedure. If you have an x86 Mac, you could upgrade to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard for 19 USD, if you want.
Then there is this tool, which might work in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, but since it was orignally written for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion and floh recompiled it for use in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard too, it might not work, but you could ask floh, if he would be so kind to recompile it for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard again.
Small tool to convert video containers without reencoding (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1433969)

Cox Orange
Feb 12, 2013, 12:52 PM
it seems I overlooked that we are not in the PowerPC Subforum...

But why then did I find your guide here http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=15529370#post15529370 in the PowerPC Forum and ZekeD is claiming everything works, when I asked, if there is a PowerPC Version.

I have no Intel stuff. :(

It seems that everything works smooth for everyone and I am the only one not getting the new fancy "have a look at" applications to work (same was for TenFourFox browser, everyone was happy and I saw no difference in speed compared to FireFox 3.6.28).

simsaladimbamba
Feb 12, 2013, 01:03 PM
it seems I overlooked that we are not in the PowerPC Subforum...

But why then did I find your guide here http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=15529370#post15529370 in the PowerPC Forum and ZekeD is claiming everything works, when I asked, if there is a PowerPC Version.

I have no Intel stuff. :(

It seems that everything works smooth for everyone and I am the only one not getting the new fancy "have a look at" applications to work (same was for TenFourFox browser, everyone was happy and I saw no difference in speed compared to FireFox 3.6.28).

And I seem to have overlooked it was the PowerPC sub-forum I posted in back then. I sadly have no PowerPC Mac to check though, the old G5 and G4 PowerMacs I have lack a GPU and RAM.

Could you provide a small sample .mts file for me so I can check, that it at least works at my end or to see, if the file might be botched?

And have you contacted floh about his little application.

Cox Orange
Feb 12, 2013, 07:53 PM
first of all, thank you very, very much for being so kind and willing to test it. I need your email address, then I can send you a mail with a 2MB sample or do you have another suggestion or a place where I can upload it?

Thanks in advance!

floh said, he tried it for me, but it doesn't work on PowerPC even him recompiling the code.

I found two other apps which run under PPC and Intel, but am not sure what to think of it. http://download.cnet.com/RewrapAVCHD/3000-2194_4-75570723.html and http://download.cnet.com/Free-MTS-M2TS-Converter-Mac/3000-2194_4-75718372.html?tag=mncol;1

I do not want to end up using a WIN-PC for this ;)

If there was only just an app to just load the file, cut pieces, click on "convert to mpeg4 .mov" (or something like this) and the file size would stay roughly the same with the only difference that the "crappy" parts are cut off and the file now is readable on my Mac.

Kawowski
Feb 15, 2013, 01:34 PM
simsaladimbamba: Since this topic comes up a lot and searching does not seem to be successful, here is a little guide on how to transcode .MTS files into .MOV files.

Dude, you abide! Helped me get some troubled AVCHD off of an SD Card, I now have both clips in big fat Pro Res 422 HQ with audio, after following this process and customising my own finish to it.

The ProRes files that I created initially from the .MTS files had no audio, but I was able to extract m4a files from the .m4v files, convert that to AIFF and then add to my ProRes files in QUicktime 7.

(Note: The audio is only being used as a guide as I recorded separate audio on a Zoom H4N, but the audio went straight into sync).

Thanks so much!!!

simsaladimbamba
Feb 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
simsaladimbamba: Since this topic comes up a lot and searching does not seem to be successful, here is a little guide on how to transcode .MTS files into .MOV files.

Dude, you abide! Helped me get some troubled AVCHD off of an SD Card, I now have both clips in big fat Pro Res 422 HQ with audio, after following this process and customising my own finish to it.

The ProRes files that I created initially from the .MTS files had no audio, but I was able to extract m4a files from the .m4v files, convert that to AIFF and then add to my ProRes files in QUicktime 7.

(Note: The audio is only being used as a guide as I recorded separate audio on a Zoom H4N, but the audio went straight into sync).

Thanks so much!!!

Glad to have helped, but just for confirmation, did you use the A52 Codec for Mac I linked to at the bottom of the post the guide resides in (under "Additional Info")? If not, it would explain the audio issue, but if you used, it might have to add more information to the guide.

Cox Orange
Feb 22, 2013, 02:13 PM
I found two other apps which run under PPC and Intel, but am not sure what to think of it. http://download.cnet.com/RewrapAVCHD/3000-2194_4-75570723.html and http://download.cnet.com/Free-MTS-M2TS-Converter-Mac/3000-2194_4-75718372.html?tag=mncol;1


I gave both a try.

First states it can't be installed on this computer (although cnet states, that it is for PPC 10.5.8).

Second one opens the window and wants one to check, whether you want the resulting m4v file to be directly opened. Then you click "rewrap" and you have to choose your source file, then you get a non progressing bar (with stripes) and a "ping". Nothing more, no m4v file to be found anywhere.

soapsudz
Mar 2, 2013, 09:05 AM
If you're comfortable with the command line in Terminal, you can convert AVCHD MTS files to MOV with just one command. You need ffmpeg installed manually or via Macports.

Here's what I use:
ffmpeg -i inputfile.mts -vcodec copy -acodec pcm_s16le -ac 2 outputfile.mov


This will rewrap MTS to MOV without any video transcoding so it's pretty fast. It will transcode the audio from Dolby AC3 to stereo PCM so you can import the MOV file into iMovie.

suclearnub
Mar 4, 2013, 03:06 AM
Try 'Handbrake'. Google it!

simsaladimbamba
Mar 4, 2013, 03:40 PM
Try 'Handbrake'. Google it!

HandBrake does not output .mov Files. Google it.

Niloc94
Mar 11, 2013, 01:34 PM
I'm having trouble converting my .MTS files using the re wrapper, I downloaded it as well as clip grabber and when I put one of my .MTS files on top of it, it does make a .MTS.m4v file. However, when i try to open it using MPEG StreamClip, it says video is too small. And if I take a look at the .MTS.m4v, it says it is zero kilobytes in size. Also when I put my .MTS files onto the rewrapper, it says "The application ffmpeg quit unexpectedly". I had downloaded some file converter program a long time ago called "ffmpegX", does it have something to do with that?

Help would be greatly appreciated, as I have to start editing my video which is due this Wednesday and worth 30% of my mark!

simsaladimbamba
Mar 11, 2013, 01:37 PM
I'm having trouble converting my .MTS files using the re wrapper, I downloaded it as well as clip grabber and when I put one of my .MTS files on top of it, it does make a .MTS.m4v file. However, when i try to open it using MPEG StreamClip, it says video is too small. And if I take a look at the .MTS.m4v, it says it is zero kilobytes in size. Also when I put my .MTS files onto the rewrapper, it says "The application ffmpeg quit unexpectedly". I had downloaded some file converter program a long time ago called "ffmpegX", does it have something to do with that?

Help would be greatly appreciated, as I have to start editing my video which is due this Wednesday and worth 30% of my mark!

Did you try the Small tool to convert video containers without reencoding (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1433969) yet?

In order to find out, what may be wrong with your MTS video, you can use the following three applications to analyse a sample video file.

VideoSpec (http://laurent.ettouati.free.fr/english/) (free)
MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) (free)
Media Inspector (http://mediainspector.massanti.com/) (2.99 USD € in the Mac App Store (MAS) (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-inspector/id419975242?mt=12))

When done, you can use the "Report" (VideoSpec) and "Export" (Media Inspector) button to export a report,
attachable to your next post via the http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/MR_screenshots_2012_02/2012_02_MR_attachbutton.png button.
In MediaInfo you have to go to the Menu Bar, select View > Text and copy the text via CMD+A > CMD+C and paste it via CMD+V into your next post.

Niloc94
Mar 11, 2013, 02:17 PM
I tried downloading that other small tool to convert video containers thing, but it it says something about not being compatible with my version of OSX and I need to update. I did download VideoSpec and here is my result.

In that link you sent me, it said this "This is a very simple task for the command line tool "ffmpeg", but people are often afraid to use the Terminal." Is there a way to fix this by using terminal? Is it complicated? Or is my only option now to update to Lion or whatever the current one is?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 11, 2013, 02:40 PM
I tried downloading that other small tool to convert video containers thing, but it it says something about not being compatible with my version of OSX and I need to update. I did download VideoSpec and here is my result.

In that link you sent me, it said this "This is a very simple task for the command line tool "ffmpeg", but people are often afraid to use the Terminal." Is there a way to fix this by using terminal? Is it complicated? Or is my only option now to update to Lion or whatever the current one is?

What Mac OS X version do you have and what Mac do you use?
The tool I linked to from floh is requiring Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard at least, thus I guess you have Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.
And normally one can use ffmpegX and Terminal to do such stuff, but I am not that good at those tools to help.

If you still have problems, and you can upload the files to a DropBox account or any other file hosting service, I can offer you to do the conversion (it is a rather quick process with functioning tools) and upload them myself.

I can offer it for 2 to 3 GB of data, more might be complicated.

If you want to do so, we should use PMs for further communication, but that means you would need five posts. As you currently have only two now, you need three more, one in this thread as reply, one here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=324933) maybe and maybe one here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=657587) or here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1080245).

Niloc94
Mar 11, 2013, 03:02 PM
Thanks so much for all the help! There's one last thing I'll try with FFmpegX, there's certain components that need to be updated, but I think I may have tried doing that long ago and it didnt work. If not I guess I'll have to upload them on DropBox as you suggest, but I'd rather try to do this myself, so as not to bother you. This will also be my 5th post, so I'll PM you from now on.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 11, 2013, 03:04 PM
Thanks so much for all the help! There's one last thing I'll try with FFmpegX, there's certain components that need to be updated, but I think I may have tried doing that long ago and it didnt work. If not I guess I'll have to upload them on DropBox as you suggest, but I'd rather try to do this myself, so as not to bother you. This will also be my 5th post, so I'll PM you from now on.

I only meant to use PM in order to communicate the transfer of files, for further troubleshooting please use this thread, in order to not clog up our inboxes and to help others.

Again, what Mac and Mac OS X version do you use?

Niloc94
Mar 11, 2013, 03:28 PM
My version is 10.5.8. Would you recommend updating to Snow Leopard at the least? It might be easier that way, but at the same time I've never updated before and knowing me I'd run into a bunch of other problems. If I were to update to the latest version, there's a free app in the Mac store that converts .MTS files which might be the easiest thing to do (but my mac needs to be updated to 10.7), but I recall reading that lots of people were unhappy with Lion and it was making their computer slow, things weren't working, etc. so I'd be a little uneasy about updating.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 11, 2013, 03:34 PM
My version is 10.5.8. Would you recommend updating to Snow Leopard at the least? It might be easier that way, but at the same time I've never updated before and knowing me I'd run into a bunch of other problems. If I were to update to the latest version, there's a free app in the Mac store that converts .MTS files which might be the easiest thing to do (but my mac needs to be updated to 10.7), but I recall reading that lots of people were unhappy with Lion and it was making their computer slow, things weren't working, etc. so I'd be a little uneasy about updating.

It depend on what Mac you have and how much RAM it has. As for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, it is not available anymore, you can only buy OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion now or get the Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Upgrade DVD for 19 USD from the Apple Online Store (http://store.apple.com/).
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is a fine OS and I still use it since day one of its release.
If you have Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, the method I posted in this thread, and the tool I linked to a bit earlier, should work just fine.

And upgrading from Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is an easy process, just pop in the DVD, follow the on screen instructions and let it work for half an hour. After that run Software Update and get all the available updates.

But make a backup via Time Machine or CarbonCopyCloner (http://www.bombich.com) (version 3.4.7 is still free (http://www.bombich.com/download.html)) or SuperDuper! (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html) before upgrading, as you should always backup anyway.

TimothyJohn
Mar 30, 2013, 03:45 PM
It depend on what Mac you have and how much RAM it has. As for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, it is not available anymore, you can only buy OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion now or get the Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Upgrade DVD for 19 USD from the Apple Online Store (http://store.apple.com/).
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is a fine OS and I still use it since day one of its release.
If you have Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, the method I posted in this thread, and the tool I linked to a bit earlier, should work just fine.

And upgrading from Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is an easy process, just pop in the DVD, follow the on screen instructions and let it work for half an hour. After that run Software Update and get all the available updates.

But make a backup via Time Machine or CarbonCopyCloner (http://www.bombich.com) (version 3.4.7 is still free (http://www.bombich.com/download.html)) or SuperDuper! (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html) before upgrading, as you should always backup anyway.

I have been using a Canon HV20 for for some years. As far as archiving, I gave up long ago and basically use the tapes as archive. When I want to share these family vids with extended family, I use iMovie, deal with the expansive file, edit, then share by using iDVD. Then I delete the files from my Glyph ext drive to save space.

I would now like to expand my music production (audio) to include video. I would like to shoot music vids of educational value and demonstrative purposes for uploading to YouTube. I asked for online advice, and many suggested Adobe Premiere Elements 11 instead of iMovie 11. I was able to get copy for $60, so I tried it. While it does import the mpeg1 files from the HV20 without converting, I wind up with one large 1 hour clip. The windows version evidently provides for separating clips, but not the mac.

So after extensive research, I found your numerous posts. I have to say, along with many others, Thank you!!!!!! I've learned quite a bit from your posts.

If you would like to spare the time, please advise me from this point of view.
Assume that I am starting from point zero. What DSLR or camcorder would you recommend to shoot music performance vids (not concerts-just teacher lessons and product demonstrations-video recorder on a tripod, no zooming- and perhaps an ext mic for better audio quality)? In as high a quality as possible for upload to YouTube and DVD production? I've gotten suggestions including Panasonic's Lumix series, Canon's T4i, and various Canon and Sony camcorders. Am I looking to shoot AVCHD? MPEG-4?

And in terms of editors, I now have iMovie 11, Premiere Elements 11 for mac, but I could get my hands on FCP X, or Media Composer 6.5 with my educator's discount.

I do a lot of audio production, right on up to ddp and cd production. I have a quick and effective workflow that yields high quality results. I'd like to expand into the video side. But I've been stumped. I'm learning, but still haven't gotten the train on the tracks, so to speak.

Thanks again!!

Tim

simsaladimbamba
Mar 30, 2013, 03:48 PM
I have been using a Canon HV20 for for some years. As far as archiving, I gave up long ago and basically use the tapes as archive. When I want to share these family vids with extended family, I use iMovie, deal with the expansive file, edit, then share by using iDVD. Then I delete the files from my Glyph ext drive to save space.

I would now like to expand my music production (audio) to include video. I would like to shoot music vids of educational value and demonstrative purposes for uploading to YouTube. I asked for online advice, and many suggested Adobe Premiere Elements 11 instead of iMovie 11. I was able to get copy for $60, so I tried it. While it does import the mpeg1 files from the HV20 without converting, I wind up with one large 1 hour clip. The windows version evidently provides for separating clips, but not the mac.

So after extensive research, I found your numerous posts. I have to say, along with many others, Thank you!!!!!! I've learned quite a bit from your posts.

If you would like to spare the time, please advise me from this point of view.
Assume that I am starting from point zero. What DSLR or camcorder would you recommend to shoot music performance vids (not concerts-just teacher lessons and product demonstrations-video recorder on a tripod, no zooming- and perhaps an ext mic for better audio quality)? In as high a quality as possible for upload to YouTube and DVD production? I've gotten suggestions including Panasonic's Lumix series, Canon's T4i, and various Canon and Sony camcorders. Am I looking to shoot AVCHD? MPEG-4?

And in terms of editors, I now have iMovie 11, Premiere Elements 11 for mac, but I could get my hands on FCP X, or Media Composer 6.5 with my educator's discount.

I do a lot of audio production, right on up to ddp and cd production. I have a quick and effective workflow that yields high quality results. I'd like to expand into the video side. But I've been stumped. I'm learning, but still haven't gotten the train on the tracks, so to speak.

Thanks again!!

Tim

It may be better for you to create your own thread in the Digital Video (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=80) sub-forum to get better help, as I cannot really advise with consumer grade cameras, as I work more with Arri Alexa (http://www.arri.com/camera/digital_cameras/) and similar cameras.


Find the NEW THREAD button (at the top and bottom of the thread list) looking like this: http://cdn.macrumors.com/vb/images/buttons/newthread.gif
Use an appropriate and descriptive thread title and follow the guidelines in this thread:
"How to maximise your MacRumors troubleshooting experience" (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=205018) created by mad jew in 2006

PS: WpBjGUlBTHU
Video Compression
Why It Matters & How To Make The Most Of It (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm)
which includes the following sections:
GOPs, Macroblocks & Wavelets (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#1)
Acquisition Formats (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#2)
Editing & Post Formats (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#3)
Final Cut Pro (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#4)
Avid Media Composer (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#5)
Adobe Premiere Pro (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#6)
Which Codec Should I Edit With? (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#7)
Conclusion (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#8)
Camera Codec Summary (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#9)
Apple ProRes Variations (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#10)
Avid DNxHD Codecs (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#11)

Frankgr
Apr 11, 2013, 09:35 AM
I have the apps and it seems to be working ok - still need to do some tests:-) In Mpeg Streamclip I dont see the compression option for Apple ProRes. Could that be because I am using ver. 1.9.2 the later one 1.9.3 seemed to have some issues with my OS 10.6.8 (snow leopard) so I avoided it. Is H264 an equivalent compression to use ?

simsaladimbamba
Apr 11, 2013, 10:02 AM
I have the apps and it seems to be working ok - still need to do some tests:-) In Mpeg Streamclip I dont see the compression option for Apple ProRes. Could that be because I am using ver. 1.9.2 the later one 1.9.3 seemed to have some issues with my OS 10.6.8 (snow leopard) so I avoided it. Is H264 an equivalent compression to use ?

ProRes is an editing codec, which comes with Final Cut Pro.
H.264 is a delivering codec, which comes with almost everything now.

What do you want to do with your MTS files?


Video Compression
Why It Matters & How To Make The Most Of It (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm)
which includes the following sections:
GOPs, Macroblocks & Wavelets (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#1)
Acquisition Formats (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#2)
Editing & Post Formats (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#3)
Final Cut Pro (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#4)
Avid Media Composer (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#5)
Adobe Premiere Pro (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#6)
Which Codec Should I Edit With? (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#7)
Conclusion (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#8)
Camera Codec Summary (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#9)
Apple ProRes Variations (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#10)
Avid DNxHD Codecs (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm#11)

Frankgr
Apr 11, 2013, 06:03 PM
What do you want to do with your MTS files?
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I have a small Sony pocket camera (RX100) that records HD video / avchd 1080p in the .mts format.
So I have used your method (original post) to make them into .M4V files.
Now in MediaStreamclip I want to export files for delivering them to my friend (quicktime?).

Recommendations for size (unscaled or size in HD), compression codec (H264 ?), File type (QT or Mpeg-4 ?), for prepping the clips tp be played/viewed on a HD TV set by connecting a macbook to the TV. Bypassing any editing program, just payed with a media player (Quicktime, Windows media Player, VLC?)

A problem I'm experiencing which I hope is not a result of the transcoding-
When I playback the video on the camera lcd it looks smooth,but when I play it on my machine it has aweful 'stuttering', 'staggering' with any camera or subject movement. I'm panning slowly using a video head on tripod with steady shot turned off.
I just tried with shooting mp4 and all 3 avchd options - it's the same problem.
Thank you

snerkler
Jun 20, 2013, 03:08 AM
I've been using Clipwrap for some time now, although admittedly haven't used it for several months. I've just converted some files today and there's no audio, the video element plays fine. I've updated to the latest version of clipwrap and still no joy. Could someone please assist me in this matter.

I'm running Mac OS X Mountain Lion on an intel Mac.



EDIT: Ignore this, I've just gone into preferences and found that "convert audio to LPCM" was checked. I've unchecked it and it plays fine.

snerkler
Jun 20, 2013, 07:46 AM
I've been using Clipwrap for some time now, although admittedly haven't used it for several months. I've just converted some files today and there's no audio, the video element plays fine. I've updated to the latest version of clipwrap and still no joy. Could someone please assist me in this matter.

I'm running Mac OS X Mountain Lion on an intel Mac.



EDIT: Ignore this, I've just gone into preferences and found that "convert audio to LPCM" was checked. I've unchecked it and it plays fine.

I've discovered since this that although I ran an update this morning it didn't update to the latest version of clipwrap. I re-ran the update and it now updated to 2.6.1. Audio now works even with LPCM checked.

Geranium
Aug 9, 2013, 07:27 AM
Free AVCHD to Mov (https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/free-avchd-to-mov/id675103877?mt=12) allow you to convert mts to mov with or without video reencoding.

https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/free-avchd-to-mov/id675103877?mt=12

patrickblaine
Aug 23, 2013, 07:09 PM
@simsaladimbamba

Thanks so much for your post...super helpful! However...I still can't get audio from my completed .mov files. Did everything you recommended...any ideas?

simsaladimbamba
Aug 23, 2013, 10:08 PM
@simsaladimbamba

Thanks so much for your post...super helpful! However...I still can't get audio from my completed .mov files. Did everything you recommended...any ideas?

Including that A52 Codec for Mac (post #2 at the bottom) or the VideoContainerSwitcher (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1433969)?

umbcdml
Aug 27, 2013, 03:14 PM
Hello!

I also wanted to thank you for this post. I've attempted everything you have mentioned/suggested in this thread regarding the "no sound" issue, but without success. I have the A52 codec and have installed VideoContainerSwitcher. I'm not quite sure what else could be causing the problem.

I drag an .MTS file into ReWrap2M4V, and the resulting file has no sound. I run that file through MPEGStreamClip (sound uncompressed), and it still has no sound as a .MOV.

Just to give you some extra info, I have FCPX installed, as well as FCE4 and QTX. Also, I tried running a small clip through a trial version of ClipWrap, and the resulting file did have sound. There seems to be a piece missing with the other method..

Any ideas as to what else I could try?

EDIT:
Okay, I think I know why it didn't work. It seems that my problem was that I kept choosing to output my files as Apple ProRes (HQ). I don't know why that got rid of the sound, but hey, at least this works!

Thank you, again.

simsaladimbamba
Aug 27, 2013, 03:17 PM
Hello!

I also wanted to thank you for this post. I've attempted everything you have mentioned/suggested in this thread regarding the "no sound" issue, but without success. I have the A52 codec and have installed VideoContainerSwitcher. I'm not quite sure what else could be causing the problem.

I drag an .MTS file into ReWrap2M4V, and the resulting file has no sound. I run that file through MPEGStreamClip (sound uncompressed), and it still has no sound as a .MOV.

Just to give you some extra info, I have FCPX installed, as well as FCE4 and QTX. Also, I tried running a small clip through a trial version of ClipWrap, and the resulting file did have sound. There seems to be a piece missing with the other method..

Any ideas as to what else I could try?

If those MTS files are not that much, like several dozens, it works to open each MTS file in QTX and SAVE AS/EXPORT as MOV. I have done that last year on a video production Mac, since the method I posted did not seem to work on it and I did not want to fiddle that deep.
As it was a Mac Pro, I opened at least four MTS files and let it export 4 videos at the same time.

pprior
Oct 22, 2013, 06:19 PM
Free AVCHD to Mov (https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/free-avchd-to-mov/id675103877?mt=12) allow you to convert mts to mov with or without video reencoding.

https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/free-avchd-to-mov/id675103877?mt=12

I've been using this, but now when I'm editing in Premiere Pro CS6 I'm getting VERY choppy playback, basically not viewable on the review of footage I'm trying to catalog.

Not sure, but perhaps something is going awry in the conversion??

dgalvan123
Oct 25, 2013, 04:02 PM
So apparently iMove 10.0 handles avchd natively now, according to the update notes.

I did an import from a Canon Vixia HF20 (which uses AVCHD) yesterday and the import was much faster than in previous versions of iMovie, (though not instantaneous). Also, I looked inside the iMovie Library package and saw that upon import the AVCHD clips (which have the .mts extension in their original form) were copied and converted to .MOV. These .MOV's were hundreds of MB, but still I think smaller in size than the AIC versions would have been. So that is good. But I don't know if they are just being re-packaged or actually transcoded. Anyone know?

Trancyfor
Mar 24, 2014, 01:22 AM
Some AVCHD files aren’t compatible with mac tools such as Compressor, iMovie etc. And the MOV is the Apple Quicktime common editable format.

wHY not use imelfin video converter for mac. So you can easily import it to Final Cut Pro on Mac for further editing.

ColdCase
Mar 24, 2014, 08:25 AM
Perhaps because its $36?

USAntigoon
Mar 24, 2014, 04:08 PM
I use ClipWrap for all my re-wrapping and/or conversions ... I know FCPX 10.1 can import AVCHD files, but I like to convert my AVCHD Sony media into ProRes with a .mov wrapper and then import that media or parts of what I need in FCPX..Works very smooth and less strain on the CPU during optimizing media import..

Royer
May 21, 2014, 11:03 AM
I've had success with Final Cut X and Final Cut 6 & 7 (log and transfer, not log and capture).

Most often, though, I use iHDclip (http://bit.do/http-www-apple-com-osx-apps-app-store-html) (which is in the app store). I think it was free when I got it. It's $9.99 now, but $10 might be worth saving all the time of looking for something else.

Paul