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MacRumors
Jan 18, 2012, 11:24 AM
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Last week, research firm NPD released data (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/09/iphone-4s-closes-sales-gap-on-android-as-apple-sweeps-top-three-smartphone-models/) showing that Apple's iOS had significantly closed the gap on Android in new U.S. smartphone sales in October and November, narrowing Android's 34 percentage-point lead to just four points in the wake of the iPhone 4S debut.

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Nielsen now takes a look (http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/consumer/more-us-consumers-choosing-smartphones-as-apple-closes-the-gap-on-android/) at its own data, showing similar momentum that had carried over through the end of 2011.Among recent acquirers, meaning those who said they got a new device within the past three months, 44.5 percent of those surveyed in December said they chose an iPhone, compared to just 25.1 percent in October. Furthermore, 57 percent of new iPhone owners surveyed in December said they got an iPhone 4S.Breaking the data down into monthly surveys of people who had acquired a new smartphone over the previous three months, that iPhone 4S effect resulted in iOS nearly matching Android in share of recent smartphone acquirers as of December.

Given the three-month windows of time covered by each monthly survey, December's data would include at least several weeks of time prior to the iPhone 4S launch. Data for January could thus show even stronger performance by Apple, although some of the early iPhone 4S adopters may fall out of the January sample due to the three-month window having closed, depending on when during the month the data is collected.

Article Link: Apple's Smartphone Market Share Surge Continues through December on iPhone 4S Strength (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/18/apples-smartphone-market-share-surge-continues-through-december-on-iphone-4s-strength/)



Xenc
Jan 18, 2012, 11:42 AM
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Poor BlackBerry.

*LTD*
Jan 18, 2012, 11:44 AM
Just a couple of models achieving this against a veritbale flood of OEMs running a universally-licensed OS.

No surprise, though. Apple's nailed a strategy that lasts over the long term.

samcraig
Jan 18, 2012, 11:50 AM
Just a couple of models achieving this against a veritbale flood of OEMs running a universally-licensed OS.

No surprise, though. Apple's nailed a strategy that lasts over the long term.

Irrelevant. Whether there are 1,000,000 phones vs the one iPhone or not - people only buy one phone for themselves. They either buy an iphone or they buy a non-iPhone. So it doesn't matter how many iPhone models or how many android models there are other than those choosing android can choose from different form factors. But primarily it's IOS vs Android.

bassfingers
Jan 18, 2012, 11:51 AM
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~50% of American smart phone buyers couldn't possibly be buying that phone because it's clearly the best? Nooooo

*LTD*
Jan 18, 2012, 11:55 AM
But Siri is a gimmick, the 4S was a letdown, no change in form-factor, and it's using an "old" UI that has barely changed since its debut.

/s

(It seems some designs are are just *that* good.)

Rodimus Prime
Jan 18, 2012, 11:56 AM
US != the world.

And do not forget you have pent up demand so the 4Q for iPhones is rather worthless for the data point as it has 3 extra months of pent up demand due to the delay of the next iPhone. Get back to me in 3-4 months and see if the trend holds.

jayducharme
Jan 18, 2012, 11:57 AM
I wonder how much of the gain is due to Sprint finally offering the iPhone. Some smaller carriers in the south are supposed to get the iPhone as well. As long as Apple keeps expanding carriers, they should continue to grab more market share. For many people, there's not much choice if the iPhone carriers don't have coverage in their area. And for a lot of people, the extra monthly expense that comes with having a smartphone isn't an option.

*LTD*
Jan 18, 2012, 11:58 AM
US != the world.


US = a massive market, and arguably one of the most coveted. The US market can do wonders for your brand power.

It speaks to the strength of Apple products when with just a couple of models they can capture significant share (all under one roof, never mind tons of OEMs.)

Now, given that, imagine what it means for a product like that to capture majority or near-majority share, in the wake of a market flooded by OEMs running a universally-licensed OS.

samcraig
Jan 18, 2012, 12:01 PM
But Siri is a gimmick, the 4S was a letdown, no change in form-factor, and it's using an "old" UI that has barely changed since its debut.

/s

(It seems some designs are are just *that* good.)

Siri is a gimmick. The 4S was a bump in specs - not something fully evolutionary in the product line.

Still - there was pent up demand and the fact that you now had Sprint selling the iPhone made a big difference as well.

I get your sarcasm - but it's really not far from the truth.

lincolntran
Jan 18, 2012, 12:03 PM
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US != the world.


US = a massive market, and arguably one of the most coveted. The US market can do wonders for your brand power.

It speaks to the strength of Apple products when with just a couple of models they can capture significant share (all under one roof, never mind tons of OEMs.)

Now, given that, imagine what it means for a product like that to capture majority or near-majority share, in the wake of a market flooded by OEMs running a universally-licensed OS.

Agree. US market is the biggest in term of revenue earning. Other markets are not even close in comparison. People in the US Market buy a lot of phones and Apps than others.

Rodimus Prime
Jan 18, 2012, 12:04 PM
Siri is a gimmick. The 4S was a bump in specs - not something fully evolutionary in the product line.

Still - there was pent up demand and the fact that you now had Sprint selling the iPhone made a big difference as well.

I get your sarcasm - but it's really not far from the truth.

Damn those pesky little facts.

roadbloc
Jan 18, 2012, 12:05 PM
I forgot that the rest of the world was tiny and unimportant compared to the US. :rolleyes:

raejae
Jan 18, 2012, 12:59 PM
Siri is a gimmick. The 4S was a bump in specs - not something fully evolutionary in the product line.

Still - there was pent up demand and the fact that you now had Sprint selling the iPhone made a big difference as well.

I get your sarcasm - but it's really not far from the truth.

For somebody who spends 2+ hours a day driving to/from work and communicates mainly via text message, Siri is -not- a gimmick.

This is just one example, but your opinion is not fact. There are many people (myself included) for whom Siri is the killer feature that made them buy the product. I was prepared to hunker down and get another year out of my 3GS until I saw this feature.

samcraig
Jan 18, 2012, 01:05 PM
For somebody who spends 2+ hours a day driving to/from work and communicates mainly via text message, Siri is -not- a gimmick.

This is just one example, but your opinion is not fact. There are many people (myself included) for whom Siri is the killer feature that made them buy the product. I was prepared to hunker down and get another year out of my 3GS until I saw this feature.

I think you'll find that you're in the minority. I'm not saying Siri is useLESS. I'm saying for most - like facetime - it is something experimented with and used sporadically.

firewood
Jan 18, 2012, 01:13 PM
Irrelevant. Whether there are 1,000,000 phones vs the one iPhone or not - people only buy one phone for themselves.

Absolutely not true, if you know anything about manufacturing and service.

It costs much much more to manufacture complex devices in small quantities than in huge quantities. Furthermore the community of people who can help you with your device (user communities, such as here) and the number of repair people experienced with fixing the device will be massively larger for high volume devices. Just try to find an experienced Bugatti repair person or any spare parts in your neighborhood.

Same with accessories such as cases, and apps skinned or customized for features unique to that single particular device (as opposed to generic apps for the OS).

Rodimus Prime
Jan 18, 2012, 01:25 PM
For somebody who spends 2+ hours a day driving to/from work and communicates mainly via text message, Siri is -not- a gimmick.

This is just one example, but your opinion is not fact. There are many people (myself included) for whom Siri is the killer feature that made them buy the product. I was prepared to hunker down and get another year out of my 3GS until I saw this feature.

You should not be using your phone while driving. If anything Siri made things worse not better as now you can feel you can txt while driving.

samcraig
Jan 18, 2012, 01:36 PM
Absolutely not true, if you know anything about manufacturing and service.

It costs much much more to manufacture complex devices in small quantities than in huge quantities. Furthermore the community of people who can help you with your device (user communities, such as here) and the number of repair people experienced with fixing the device will be massively larger for high volume devices. Just try to find an experienced Bugatti repair person or any spare parts in your neighborhood.

Same with accessories such as cases, and apps skinned or customized for features unique to that single particular device (as opposed to generic apps for the OS).

I think you missed my point entirely. It's cool.

ChazUK
Jan 18, 2012, 01:45 PM
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I couldn't knock Apple at all for their iPhone 4s sales looking at these figures. Amazing performance.
It seems that it's doing just fine despite being dismissed by quite a few people as a marginal upgrade.

Incredible performance.

eTron
Jan 18, 2012, 04:22 PM
US = a massive market, and arguably one of the most coveted. The US market can do wonders for your brand power.

It speaks to the strength of Apple products when with just a couple of models they can capture significant share (all under one roof, never mind tons of OEMs.)

Now, given that, imagine what it means for a product like that to capture majority or near-majority share, in the wake of a market flooded by OEMs running a universally-licensed OS.

I signed in just to say... Well said!

coder12
Jan 18, 2012, 04:39 PM
You should not be using your phone while driving. If anything Siri made things worse not better as now you can feel you can txt while driving.

People will always text and drive, as long as there are cell phones at least. I'd rather have someone watching the road and texting while driving rather than someone staring at their crotch, texting, and driving.

On the other side of things, for those who nay-say against Siri, she certainly rocks when it comes to Speech to Text; seriously, I haven't typed a single message in a long time without using STT.

insider-man
Jan 18, 2012, 09:36 PM
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Agree. US market is the biggest in term of revenue earning. Other markets are not even close in comparison. People in the US Market buy a lot of phones and Apps than others.

I'll tell you for nothing, APAC last year overtook EMEA as the No 2 region for Apple sales and once Apple gets full availability in China, APAC will become there biggest market.

This is what is expected internal at Apple from Tim Cook downwards, they are focusing a lot of resource in China and once the market is tapped it'll dwarf the US market.

Bernard SG
Jan 18, 2012, 09:46 PM
Irrelevant. Whether there are 1,000,000 phones vs the one iPhone or not - people only buy one phone for themselves. They either buy an iphone or they buy a non-iPhone. So it doesn't matter how many iPhone models or how many android models there are other than those choosing android can choose from different form factors. But primarily it's IOS vs Android.

Are you basically saying that the only reason to get an Android handset is that you don't like iPhone/iOS, irrespectively of the Android phone's own merits?

duffman9000
Jan 18, 2012, 10:12 PM
You should not be using your phone while driving. If anything Siri made things worse not better as now you can feel you can txt while driving.

Ok Dad. Us kids can multitask while we drive to the store to buy pampers.

JPIndustrie
Jan 18, 2012, 10:23 PM
Are you basically saying that the only reason to get an Android handset is that you don't like iPhone/iOS, irrespectively of the Android phone's own merits?

C'mon now; is there really any other reason? Anything besides the typical "I like open source".

Open? Yeah, try it. Windows Mobile 4-6.x did the hacking thing better though. Least you didn't have to know UNIX cmds.

I do not think either will win in the end. There will always be the ones that appreciate whatever either side does.

Rodimus Prime
Jan 18, 2012, 10:46 PM
.. C'mon now; is there really any other reason? Anything besides the typical "I like open source".

Open? Yeah, try it. Windows Mobile 4-6.x did the hacking thing better though. Least you didn't have to know UNIX cmds.

I do not think either will win in the end. There will always be the ones that appreciate whatever either side does.

By your logic people only go iPhone because they do not like Android and not on the merits of iOS.
I went Android because I like to customize my UI and how I interact with it. My home screens are setup exactly how I like it. I like having multiple choices to do the same thing. Add to this item I care about function over looks.
I used to use blackberry and it was very highly setup and customized to how I wanted. My theme was busier than most people's anf was full of how I wanted it.

Each os has its own merits and drawbacks and you choose which one you want.

mckinley318
Jan 19, 2012, 12:34 AM
For somebody who spends 2+ hours a day driving to/from work and communicates mainly via text message, Siri is -not- a gimmick.

This is just one example, but your opinion is not fact. There are many people (myself included) for whom Siri is the killer feature that made them buy the product. I was prepared to hunker down and get another year out of my 3GS until I saw this feature.

I emphatically second that! Prior to Siri being purchased buy apple for exclusive use on the 4S, i used the app version, which didn't include the female personality with a voice, almost on a daily basis. I found that it was more intuitive when compared against competing voice-activated assistants and it proved to be part of my daily digest. So as for it being a gimmick, I believe that comment falls under the category of opinion and should be presented as such. Thanks all.

mckinley318
Jan 19, 2012, 12:55 AM
C'mon now; is there really any other reason? Anything besides the typical "I like open source".

Open? Yeah, try it. Windows Mobile 4-6.x did the hacking thing better though. Least you didn't have to know UNIX cmds.

I do not think either will win in the end. There will always be the ones that appreciate whatever either side does.

Seriously! It's like they miss the point of convenience, intuitiveness and ease of use. No, they'd rather tout, "I like open source" or any number of insane counter intuitive jibber-jabber about what technology is supposed to afford you. When you buy a car, do you want to like say, "hey look, I can add my own exhaust manifolds!" Or do you want it to work like a charm and provide all the creature comforts and convenience to help you through this journey called life. I swear, i believe more kids buy androids as shiny new toys to tinker around with, while we adults purchase a phone with purpose. We don't have the time nor the inclination to play surgeon with our phones or hack into it, as if that makes us cool. We need a beautifully rendered device that's powerful capable and complete. The world needs a captain, and I bet he has an iPhone.

SandynJosh
Jan 19, 2012, 01:23 AM
Poor BlackBerry.

...and poor WinMo7 that didn't even earn a place on the chart, unless it's that black line at the bottom.

It's interesting that once Verizon and Sprint got the iPhone the demand for any one of the 50+ Android phones has fallen dramatically. Only Samsung with their knockoff iPhone is doing well with Android, and even they have deviated from the Google Android path with a version 2.3 variant.

Well, that's how the Android fractures.

SandynJosh
Jan 19, 2012, 01:37 AM
Seriously! It's like they miss the point of convenience, intuitiveness and ease of use. No, they'd rather tout, "I like open source" or any number of insane counter intuitive jibber-jabber about what technology is supposed to afford you. When you buy a car, do you want to like say, "hey look, I can add my own exhaust manifolds!" Or do you want it to work like a charm and provide all the creature comforts and convenience to help you through this journey called life. I swear, i believe more kids buy androids as shiny new toys to tinker around with, while we adults purchase a phone with purpose.

With Android exploits surging 76% last year, and expected to be worse in 2012, the kiddies will have a lot of opportunity to tinker with their toys.

We [adults] don't have the time nor the inclination to play surgeon with our phones or hack into it, as if that makes us cool. We need a beautifully rendered device that's powerful capable and complete. The world needs a captain, and I bet he has an iPhone.

With all the 50+ versions of Andriod phones out there, in all the various form factors, with slider keyboards and removable batteries and 4G LTE and "true Flash" and "real multitasking," you'd think at least one of them could manage to be nearly as compelling as the 4S.

Instead, the only one doing anywhere a respectable job is the Samsung that is an iPhone copy with a tricked out Android variant to mimic iOS.

samcraig
Jan 19, 2012, 06:51 AM
With all the 50+ versions of Andriod phones out there, in all the various form factors, with slider keyboards and removable batteries and 4G LTE and "true Flash" and "real multitasking," you'd think at least one of them could manage to be nearly as compelling as the 4S.


I hear what you're saying. But maybe that's just not that important (for the consumer anyway). Several might be as compelling or even MORE compelling than the iPhone. But with Android - people have choices in form factors and specs. For one Android phone to grab marketshare like the iPhone is pretty unrealistic no matter how you slice it. Not when there's so much competition within the platform.

Also - as a consumer - it would be an interesting marketplace if Apple has - say - 45 percent marketshare with the iPhone; Samsung had similar marketshare for say - the Galaxy S2 and then every other manufacturer/etc was trying to survive on 10% marketshare.

We'd see less choices and less manufactures surviving in that scenario. It just wouldn't be profitable.

firewood
Jan 19, 2012, 10:47 AM
With all the 50+ versions of Andriod phones out there, in all the various form factors, with slider keyboards and removable batteries and 4G LTE and "true Flash" and "real multitasking," you'd think at least one of them could manage to be nearly as compelling as the 4S.

Or what it might say is that Android users are so different from one another and vary so much in personal taste that no one product appeals to more than a fraction of them.

SandynJosh
Jan 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
Or what it might say is that Android users are so different from one another and vary so much in personal taste that no one product appeals to more than a fraction of them.

That could be true, but then that doesn't explain why the Samsung iPhone wannabe is so popular compared to the rest of the Android herd. Maybe the answer lies in having taste vs. no taste.

Rodimus Prime
Jan 19, 2012, 11:21 PM
That could be true, but then that doesn't explain why the Samsung iPhone wannabe is so popular compared to the rest of the Android herd. Maybe the answer lies in having taste vs. no taste.

Have you even used an Android phone. Even touchwiz which yes is the closest to iOS is very far removed from it. The only part that is even like iOS is the App Draw which OMG scroll horizontally oh and their are 4 icons on the bottom. But that is it. Guess what look at all the big 3rd party launchers and hell even look at things my Motola. You have 4 icons that can be used on any home screen.

Top that off you can install launchers on there that change the launcher so you never even have to see it. I am a fan of ADW EX. Go Launcher Pro is another popular one that I know a lot of people like. Btw those 3rd party launchers most of them give you the choice if you want to go vertical or Horizontal. I personally choose vertical scrolling for phones.

All in all calling the Samsung Galaxy a iPhone copy is pretty far from the truth and anyone who has really used the phone and owned it knows how much FUD is in that statement as well.

twoodcc
Jan 20, 2012, 01:23 AM
That is very impressive. The only problem is that apple's share will go down again before the next iPhone is released

JPIndustrie
Jan 20, 2012, 07:48 AM
When you buy a car, do you want to like say, "hey look, I can add my own exhaust manifolds!" Or do you want it to work like a charm and provide all the creature comforts and convenience to help you through this journey called life.

Very very true, however Ironic for me at least; I just purchased one of the cars specifically designed to have exhaust manifolds added - a '11 Ford Mustang GT 5.0. However your point is completely valid for 99% of regular drivers who happen to need a powerful, beautiful cell phone.

Honestly, i really hope both platforms prosper. That is what is best for the consumer. Different approaches to the same idea, if it works for you - more power to you my friends.