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wako
Jun 14, 2005, 05:57 AM
I was just wondering what kind of file system does Mac use?


I was wondering because I have an external HDD and I was wondering if it were to be on FAT32 would it be compatible with a Mac? (im a PC user FYI)

mad jew
Jun 14, 2005, 06:23 AM
FAT32 will work with Mac for sharing files and day-to-day use but I don't think it'll let you boot from it, if that matters. I'm pretty sure it's HFS+ on OSX.

dubbz
Jun 14, 2005, 06:31 AM
Yup, it's HFS+ on Mac, but Windows can't read it without 3rd party tools...

sooo.... FAT32 is your best bet if you want something that can be read from and written to on both Mac and Windows, as long as you're going to just it for data, not actually install OS X on it.

mad jew
Jun 14, 2005, 06:32 AM
Yeah, dubbz has the more eloquent answer. Go with FAT32. :)

iindigo
Jun 14, 2005, 09:17 AM
Doesn't OS X support NTFS as well? I thought it did...

Eidorian
Jun 14, 2005, 09:21 AM
Doesn't OS X support NTFS as well? I thought it did...You can only read from NTFS. I just formatted my 60 GB homemade external drive to FAT32. I now have permission to delete files off of it now. It really helps when transfering lots files between my PC laptop and my Mac desktop.

wiseguy27
Jun 14, 2005, 09:38 AM
Doesn't OS X support NTFS as well? I thought it did...
Due to the closed nature of NTFS (and its revisions), it is poorly supported by other operating systems (like Mac OS X and Linux). Although NTFS write support is available, it's quite risky to write to an NTFS partition from anything other than Windows and could result in loss of data.

NTFS read is well supported by Mac OS X and Linux.

joshysquashy
Jun 14, 2005, 10:24 AM
I'm guessing that this isn't an issue with networks? i.e. hfs+ can be read/write on a pc - the drive being on a mac over a network, and visa versa with ntfs?

bobweaver3434
Jun 14, 2005, 11:13 AM
I am a lifelong PC user that is planning on making The Switch (leaning heavily towards the iMac 20"), possibly as soon as today. The Mac will become my primary machine, with my ancient Dell remaining in the picture as a portable for the immediate future.

Now for the bit that pertains to file systems...

I have quite a bit of music that I'm contemplating archiving on an external HDD and have some interest in making it available to both machines. I've always been under the impression that FAT32 partitions cannot exceed 32 gb, or at least XP will not format larger than that. Can OSX a) format an external HDD to FAT32 and b) do so in a partition greater than 32 gb?

Obviously, I don't have much more than a rudimentary understanding of all this so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

panphage
Jun 14, 2005, 12:37 PM
I am a lifelong PC user that is planning on making The Switch (leaning heavily towards the iMac 20"), possibly as soon as today. The Mac will become my primary machine, with my ancient Dell remaining in the picture as a portable for the immediate future.

Now for the bit that pertains to file systems...

I have quite a bit of music that I'm contemplating archiving on an external HDD and have some interest in making it available to both machines. I've always been under the impression that FAT32 partitions cannot exceed 32 gb, or at least XP will not format larger than that. Can OSX a) format an external HDD to FAT32 and b) do so in a partition greater than 32 gb?

Obviously, I don't have much more than a rudimentary understanding of all this so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I've got FAT32 partitions larger than 32GB, but I didn't use XP to format them. I used "format C:". So it can be done. Also partition magic will work. As far as OS X, I don't think OS X can format a disk in FAT of any flavor, but I don't really know. I just don't remember having the option using Disk Utility.

I think where everyone keeps getting this 32GB thing is that PC BIOS can't boot past a certain sector w/o Large Disk Support or something. Or maybe I'm crazy.

Eidorian
Jun 14, 2005, 12:43 PM
I just reformatted my 60 GB drive to FAT32 using the Disk Utility included with Mac OS X Tiger.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314463


You cannot format a volume larger than 32 gigabytes (GB) in size using the FAT32 file system during the Windows XP installation process. Windows XP can mount and support FAT32 volumes larger than 32 GB (subject to the other limits), but you cannot create a FAT32 volume larger than 32 GB by using the Format tool during Setup. If you need to format a volume that is larger than 32 GB, use the NTFS file system to format it. Another option is to start from a Microsoft Windows 98 or Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) Startup disk and use the Format tool included on the disk.