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MacRumors
Feb 29, 2012, 01:12 PM
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A British sports book is offering odds (http://www.skybet.com/speciality-bets/the-apple-ipad-3) on whether certain features will be included in the iPad 3 which is expected to be announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/28/apple-issues-invitations-for-ipad-3-media-event-on-march-7/) next week.
The web is awash with rumours about the specifications of the new hardware and Sky Bet has chalked up odds on exactly which features it will and won't have.

Sky Bet's Helen Jacob, said: "It would be foolish to bet on the specification of most new products given the risk of information leaks but details of new Apple products are so well guarded that we have no qualms about offering odds."Sky Bet, a division of News Corp., is taking bets (http://www.skybet.com/speciality-bets/the-apple-ipad-3) on a number of different features, but has kept maximum bets low "due to the risk of people with insider info", according to Jacob.

- Will the iPad 3 have a Retina Display?
Yes: 1/8 - Max bet: 1,600
No: 9/2 - Max bet: 44.44

- Will the iPad 3 launch with a Samsung-made AMOLED screen?
Yes: 8/1 - Max bet: 25
No: 1/25 - Max bet: 5,000

- Will the iPad 3 actually be called the iPad 2S?
Yes: 1/8 - Max bet: 1,600
No: 9/2 - Max bet: 44.44

- Will the US Market have an iPad 3 LTE version?
Yes: 5/4 - Max bet: 160
No: 4/7 - Max bet: 350

- Will the iPad 3 hardware include an NFC chip?
Yes: 4/1 - Max bet: 50
No: 1/7 - Max bet: 1,400

Will the iPad 3 have 128GB of storage?
Yes: 6/1 - Max bet: 33.33
No: 1/12 - Max bet: 2,400

Will the iPad 3 include a Thunderbolt port?
Yes: 5/1 - Max bet: 40
No: 1/9 - Max bet: 1,800

Will the iPad 3 include a SD card slot?
Yes: 12/1 - Max bet: 20
No: 1/50 - Max bet: 10,000

Will the iPad 3 feature a carbon fiber backplate?
Yes: 6/5 - Max bet: 166.64
No: 8/13 - Max bet: 325

Legality of online gambling varies by country, so check laws in your jurisdiction before making any bets.

Article Link: Sky Offers Betting Odds on iPad 3 Features (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/29/sky-offers-betting-odds-on-ipad-3-features/)



colmaclean
Feb 29, 2012, 01:17 PM
What are the odds on Freddie Starr eating my iPad 3?

iSolidus
Feb 29, 2012, 01:18 PM
SD card slot and Thunderbolt port seem like a safe bet.

Djeez guys, -14? I'm only joking.

Rudy69
Feb 29, 2012, 01:19 PM
Most of them are safe bets except for the Samsung one... I have no idea

leukotriene
Feb 29, 2012, 01:19 PM
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I could destroy these bets! Does anyone know if it's legal to place bets if you live in the U.S.?

colmaclean
Feb 29, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oops,the page is giving a 404 now.

I guess the avalanche of people backing Retina killed it.

However, how are they defining "Retina"?

Hellhammer
Feb 29, 2012, 01:22 PM
Says page not found for me now, it was working fine a few minutes ago. Anyone else getting the same? There are a few certain money makers with fairly good odds.

Mag748
Feb 29, 2012, 01:26 PM
The "Specialty Bets" category has disappeared from the main page as well.

troop231
Feb 29, 2012, 01:29 PM
Says page not found for me now, it was working fine a few minutes ago. Anyone else getting the same? There are a few certain money makers with fairly good odds.

Same here. There's a few I could make some money on.

Edit: it's back up

applefanDrew
Feb 29, 2012, 01:30 PM
So if I bet no on the sd card slot....I get 50x what I bet back?

colmaclean
Feb 29, 2012, 01:34 PM
So if I bet no on the sd card slot....I get 50x what I bet back?

No, you get one fiftieth of your original stake. Bookies aren't that daft! :)

So a 1 bet would return you a mighty 1.02 including your original stake.

nickelt
Feb 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
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Is there odds on if it will blend?

Menel
Feb 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
So if I bet no on the sd card slot....I get 50x what I bet back?Other way around. You get 1/50th + your original bet.

Bet 10,000; and you'll get 10,200 if you win. 0 if you lose.

troop231
Feb 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
So if I bet no on the sd card slot....I get 50x what I bet back?

Only 2% So if you betted 100 pounds you'd get back 102 pounds

snowcrash
Feb 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
So if I bet no on the sd card slot....I get 50x what I bet back?

Nevermind.... Answered above

applefanDrew
Feb 29, 2012, 01:36 PM
No, you get one fiftieth of your original stake. Bookies aren't that daft! :)

So a 1 bet would return you a mighty 1.02 including your original stake.

Ah thanks for the clarification. Not really a betting man but I was ready to make some easy money. :)

jlgolson
Feb 29, 2012, 01:36 PM
Page is back. Odds changed on iPad 2S name:

Yes: 1/5 vs 1/8
No: 100/30 vs 9/2

DCstewieG
Feb 29, 2012, 01:37 PM
Most of them are safe bets except for the Samsung one... I have no idea

It probably won't be Samsung, but it definitely won't be AMOLED.

nickelt
Feb 29, 2012, 01:37 PM
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So if I bet no on the sd card slot....I get 50x what I bet back?

No, you get one fiftieth of your original stake. Bookies aren't that daft! :)

So a 1 bet would return you a mighty 1.02 including your original stake.

Not bad odds really considiring

Menel
Feb 29, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oops,the page is giving a 404 now.

I guess the avalanche of people backing Retina killed it.

However, how are they defining "Retina"?This. Retina media hype is gonna kill iPad 2S/3.

It's going to have 2x resolution... but Retina? It is dropping to a mere 260ish pixel density. I'm not sure that still qualifies as Retina unless you play games with 'typical viewing distance'.

movie-mac
Feb 29, 2012, 01:44 PM
The odds and max bets are pretty pointless. Understandable, but still pointless. Maximum payout per bet is 200. Invest those 10000 on no SD card slot in AAPL instead and sell them when the iPad 3 is released and you will most likely make more money, much more actually I guess.

kjs862
Feb 29, 2012, 01:49 PM
I am trying to register an account and when I go to select my country from the drop down menu, United States isn't listed....

WARSTIN
Feb 29, 2012, 01:55 PM
For it not to be called the iPad 2S was 9/2?

Damn, that would have been a great bet, not available now though.

kobefanatic2289
Feb 29, 2012, 01:56 PM
Bahahaha they removed the "Will the iPad 3 actually be called the iPad 2S?" bet. People probably hammered that one. I know I would have...

Andy-V
Feb 29, 2012, 01:57 PM
Placed a couple of bets that I'm quite confident on:

No carbon fibre backplate - We've seen it. It's not.
No to it being called the iPad 2S instead. The rumours strongly suggest a significant update, I don't think this is going to merely be an "S" revision.

Pretty confident :D

troop231
Feb 29, 2012, 01:59 PM
I am trying to register an account and when I go to select my country from the drop down menu, United States isn't listed....

http://i.imgur.com/iu2Au.png

You may have to provide a passport though, that's something I don't have :(

Starbuckpga
Feb 29, 2012, 02:01 PM
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I could destroy these bets! Does anyone know if it's legal to place bets if you live in the U.S.?

Lol. No it's not legal, but it doesn't stop the other million Americans from getting on the Super Bowl, March Madness, World Series, World Cup, or just about any other sports related event.

leukotriene
Feb 29, 2012, 02:03 PM
Some of these bets are worded such that, if Skybets were really evil, they could totally scam a bunch of people out of money.

For example:
Will the iPad 3 include an NFC chip? Well that depends on how you define an NFC chip. I could see lots of people betting "no", but Bluetooth 4.0 could be considered by some people as an NFC chip. "Near Field Communication" could mean anything.

Will the iPad 3 feature a carbon fiber backplate? Most would bet no, but what about the black band that goes over the 3G radio? What's that made of? If the new iPad 3G does use carbon fiber for that black band, does that qualify?

And of course, if Apple does 2x resolution but doesn't market it as "Retina" does that count? What if Skybets were evil and they defined "retina" as greater than 300 dpi, and therefore "it's not retina because it's only 276 ppi"? (you know immediately after the iPad 3 announcement there's gonna be lots of haters anyway trying to claim its not retina)

And what if Apple does call the thing iPad 2S instead of iPad 3? What does that do to all the other bets in the list since they're all using the name "iPad 3"? Does that mean Skybets will throw out all the bets that reference the word "iPad 3"? A lawyer could have a field day with this.

Skybets could find themselves in a heap of trouble with people arguing the outcome of these bets based on the wording. Even if Skybets isn't trying to mislead people, there will still be some betters who will claim that they technically won a bet based on the wording.

ldmatson
Feb 29, 2012, 02:19 PM
Will it blend?

Ironduke
Feb 29, 2012, 02:20 PM
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I could destroy these bets! Does anyone know if it's legal to place bets if you live in the U.S.?

i doubt it your country won't even let u use bet fair

so much for the land of the free;)

tagy
Feb 29, 2012, 02:28 PM
Page is down again - think they released this was not such a good idea.

As long as it is not called the 2S and does not have a carbon fibre back I stand to make about 400. Fingers crossed.

I can afford to loose the money but would rather not! I will only be hurting if it does have a carbon fibre back, if it is the 2S that is not much loss.

Laird Knox
Feb 29, 2012, 02:30 PM
Kinda funny to see this today - I'm doing some work on their casino offering today. :)

elppa
Feb 29, 2012, 02:32 PM
Will the iPad 3 have a Retina Display?
Yes

Will the iPad 3 launch with a Samsung-made AMOLED screen?
Definitely not AMOLED, probably Sharp/LG. Not Samsung.

Will the iPad 3 actually be called the iPad 2S?
No

Will the US Market have an iPad 3 LTE version?
Yes

Will the iPad 3 hardware include an NFC chip?
No, they'll launch this with iPhone.

Will the iPad 3 have 128GB of storage?
Maybe.

Will the iPad 3 include a Thunderbolt port?
No

Will the iPad 3 include a SD card slot?
No

Will the iPad 3 feature a carbon fiber backplate?
No

Would never gamble. But it was fun to guess.

Mac-Addict
Feb 29, 2012, 02:32 PM
Haha, once the iPad 3 is announced, the fact it's been announced will help me pay for one :D

Laird Knox
Feb 29, 2012, 02:33 PM
Some of these bets are worded such that, if Skybets were really evil, they could totally scam a bunch of people out of money.

For example:
Will the iPad 3 include an NFC chip? Well that depends on how you define an NFC chip. I could see lots of people betting "no", but Bluetooth 4.0 could be considered by some people as an NFC chip. "Near Field Communication" could mean anything.

Will the iPad 3 feature a carbon fiber backplate? Most would bet no, but what about the black band that goes over the 3G radio? What's that made of? If the new iPad 3G does use carbon fiber for that black band, does that qualify?

And of course, if Apple does 2x resolution but doesn't market it as "Retina" does that count? What if Skybets were evil and they defined "retina" as greater than 300 dpi, and therefore "it's not retina because it's only 276 ppi"? (you know immediately after the iPad 3 announcement there's gonna be lots of haters anyway trying to claim its not retina)

And what if Apple does call the thing iPad 2S instead of iPad 3? What does that do to all the other bets in the list since they're all using the name "iPad 3"? Does that mean Skybets will throw out all the bets that reference the word "iPad 3"? A lawyer could have a field day with this.

Skybets could find themselves in a heap of trouble with people arguing the outcome of these bets based on the wording. Even if Skybets isn't trying to mislead people, there will still be some betters who will claim that they technically won a bet based on the wording.

They are a regulated business so if they played games like that they probably would lose their license.

troop231
Feb 29, 2012, 02:56 PM
Can anyone confirm if you really need a passport to register if you're in the US? I'm really wanting to make some money. Thanks in advance!

Darkwater
Feb 29, 2012, 03:05 PM
Any workarounds for the 'Page Not Found'?

Lordskelic
Feb 29, 2012, 03:08 PM
God, you know a company's products are popular when people place bets on what the next generation product's hardware will be.

komodrone
Feb 29, 2012, 03:19 PM
it's going to be called ipad 2S. THEY WIN EVERYTHING

TopToffee
Feb 29, 2012, 03:25 PM
Pretty devastated that they've taken those bets down.

Nailedtothex
Feb 29, 2012, 04:06 PM
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No bet if it will be available for purchase on the day of the announcement?? Ahh, common!

LostSoul80
Feb 29, 2012, 04:12 PM
Will it blend?

Yes: 1/10000000000.

bacaramac
Feb 29, 2012, 04:18 PM
Pretty awesome, but I wish you could make more money. I wonder if they are testing the waters and will open up for big winners for the iPhone 5. The sad thing is, the outcome is already known by some which seems against the point of gambling.

Shouldn't the outcome not be known yet or have way of being known? I.e. Horse Racing, etc.

Crzyrio
Feb 29, 2012, 04:28 PM
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Pretty awesome, but I wish you could make more money. I wonder if they are testing the waters and will open up for big winners for the iPhone 5. The sad thing is, the outcome is already known by some which seems against the point of gambling.

Shouldn't the outcome not be known yet or have way of being known? I.e. Horse Racing, etc.

You already know what Apple is going to release?


Just out of. Curiosity how much do you guys plan on better I order to get a fair amount of cash?

puckhead193
Feb 29, 2012, 04:40 PM
Will it blend?

that's what I want to know too, who cares about LTE etc, the REAL question is will it blend. I'm betting that IT will blend :p :rolleyes:

RickyB
Feb 29, 2012, 05:01 PM
Can anyone confirm if you really need a passport to register if you're in the US? I'm really wanting to make some money. Thanks in advance!

Isn't online gambling illegal in the US?

You won't make much money from this. Also, if you have to bet in pounds, the conversion charges back and forward would wipe out any wins.

It's a waste of time.

SBlue1
Feb 29, 2012, 05:03 PM
haha, the brits love to bet on just anything. :D

CougRon
Feb 29, 2012, 05:19 PM
These should be put up on Prediculous.com. Can't bet any money there but it would be fun to guess and see how we did.

TopToffee
Feb 29, 2012, 05:26 PM
Yeah, they seem to be permanently off the site now :(

Such a pity, I was going to back up the truck on the carbon fibre and retina display bets... and probably a fair bit on the 2S bet (no).

Would have paid for my iPad :(

Amazing Iceman
Feb 29, 2012, 05:34 PM
This is just plan insane...! :eek:

Optimus Frag
Feb 29, 2012, 05:46 PM
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I'm a bookie by trade and this has got to be the most stupid thing I've ever heard.

-Garry-
Feb 29, 2012, 07:06 PM
Edit: I'm an idiot.

the8thark
Feb 29, 2012, 07:31 PM
You already know what Apple is going to release?

MacRumors do. They know everything Apple do before it's released. They always "expect" it.

-Garry-
Feb 29, 2012, 07:32 PM
Completely misread the article and posted something stupid above - edited :)

the8thark
Feb 29, 2012, 07:34 PM
So if I believe the next iPad will be called the iPad 3 I can more than quadruple my stake? That's an unbelievable bet. I just can't imagine it being called the iPad 2S!

That's not an $8 bet I think. That's a $1.12 bet. So you'll make 12.5 on every dollar you put in. That's how I am reading it.

Peace
Feb 29, 2012, 08:03 PM
im sure vegas has some odds on it. americans can go there and do some "legal" betting.

anonymouse99
Feb 29, 2012, 09:32 PM
I agree - stupidity at its finest. It is not like the outcome of this is not known ahead of time, this is not like a football game. Not a game of probability here. Some guy from Foxconn could easily win a lot of money here.

AlPlPlLE
Feb 29, 2012, 10:03 PM
I agree - stupidity at its finest. It is not like the outcome of this is not known ahead of time, this is not like a football game. Not a game of probability here. Some guy from Foxconn could easily win a lot of money here.


Would sure beat the wage they apparently seem to be getting huh? :eek:

flynndean
Mar 1, 2012, 03:58 AM
Can somebody who managed to get their bet in before the 404 redirection replaced the Specials Page let me know whether Sky were allowing multiples on these iPad Specials?

With combined odds, this would have represented easy money...

EDIT: Just did a bit of my own digging. The 404 only happens if you're on the SkyBet Beta Site. The Special is still listed on the old site as per the below (NB. You might need to opt-out of the Beta in the yellow bar at the top of the screen)

http://www.skybet.com/betting/speciality-bets/the-apple-ipad-3/the-apple-ipad-3-specials/e13780745.html

Looks like the market has been officially suspended for some reason...

Chupa Chupa
Mar 1, 2012, 06:52 AM
im sure vegas has some odds on it. americans can go there and do some "legal" betting.

Nope. NV regulations prohibit betting on events where the outcome can be discovered before public announcement.

bacaramac
Mar 1, 2012, 09:24 AM
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You already know what Apple is going to release?


Just out of. Curiosity how much do you guys plan on better I order to get a fair amount of cash?

I have no idea, but as the poster above pointed out, SkyBet may know what the product is if they have a contact at Apple. I would never bet on something where the outcome could be known by anyone. I agree with the Nevada approach, if the outcome may be known, it can't be bet on.

By SkyBet possibly knowing the outcome, it to me is very shady to offer odds on it.

bigjnyc
Mar 1, 2012, 12:09 PM
im sure vegas has some odds on it. americans can go there and do some "legal" betting.

Nope. NV regulations prohibit betting on events where the outcome can be discovered before public announcement.

And besides thats a little too close to Cupertino, I'm sure no casino wants someone with inside information coming down and cleaning them out.

tagy
Mar 1, 2012, 12:40 PM
Why they pulled it:

"Within a half an hour of the markets opening we took a flood of money including a string of very chunky three-figure bets," Sky Bet's Helen Jacob told TechRadar.

"If the money is correct, then the new hardware will definitely not have a new carbon fibre casing, will not be called the iPad 2S and will have 128GB of storage!"


Tech Radar (http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/sky-bet-why-we-pulled-our-ipad-3-betting-1067810)

lostngone
Mar 1, 2012, 02:01 PM
If you worked on the iPad 3 team that would be a good way to get a little extra cash.

CougRon
Mar 1, 2012, 04:56 PM
If anyone wants to place some bets on the ipad3 features without using real money, Prediculous has similar questions up on their site now that you can bet points on. You can't win anything but more points but it can be a lot of fun to make predictions and see how they come out.

http://www.prediculous.com/TagResults.jsp?tag=ipad

My god, did I just make a spam post? What have I become?

VinceDae
Mar 1, 2012, 09:58 PM
cool that we can bet on the iPad... Im going betting crazy after press-release... GOING TO OWN THEM! :P

Snips
Mar 2, 2012, 04:18 AM
- Will the iPad 3 actually be called the iPad 2S?
Yes: 1/8 - Max bet: 1,600
No: 9/2 - Max bet: 44.44


It seems a lot of people don't understand betting odds on here.

Including me, apparently, forget i said anything ;)

tagy
Mar 8, 2012, 06:22 AM
I made 410 profit :)

Covers most of the cost of my new iPad. :apple: