Re: Re: anxious
Originally posted by MisterMe
The Apple IIgs was an Apple II, not a Macintosh. The two lines were based on different processors and different operating systems, although System 6 did incorporate features from the Macintosh System 6.
Well I apologize that I didn't know this, and that I was only 8-10 at the time...forget.
You clearly have a different standard for quality of build than do I. The only Wintel manufacturer of note to even rival Apple in quality of build is IBM. Dell, HP/Compaq, Gateway? Forget about it.
It's on some of these things that I wonder if other people have actually ever gone out and actually looked at PCs. Sure, most OTC (over-the-counter) PCs such as the Dells and the Gateways are definitely crap, however I was more referring to the average PC builder. The stereotypical PC builder has a case that's open, wires just everywhere, everything's a mess, things are falling apart, or coming loose...you know what I'm trying to say. It's most people's vision that the PC builder's computer is quite cheap, yet this isn't always the case. There are MANY cases, cables, setups, etc. out there that can yield a PC which rivals the build quality and neatness of setup (not coolness, rather organization of wires, hard drives, etc.) of the current Macs. You missed my point though...I was trying to say that they "rival" the macs...IMO Apple still has a lock-down on this category. Would I rather have my "computer components" in a PC case or an El Capitan...well besides the lack of optical drive space (MDD fixes that sorta)...it would be El Capitan all the way.
Is that the only thing you can see as the Mac advantage?
No, this goes along with the above...in terms of the overall effectiveness of the case. If you read my message...how many times do I say I love OS X...?? I guess my loving it isn't enough for it to be an advantage of the Mac..???
What you need to do is to stop the p*ssing contests with your Windows weenie friends. The microprocessor is just one part (or two parts in the case of duals) of a much more complicated system that is the computer. By fixating on the processor, you show a virtual total lack of understanding of what it takes to turn all of those parts into a harmonious whole.
I tried to make this obvious, but I guess I didn't really succeed. I'm not a Windows weenie, and honestly only have one of them, who I only use for info when I can't get things working on this h*llish of an operating system called WinXP...where things just sometimes aren't very intuititive. I do realize there are more benefits of a system than just it's cpu. Are you going to tell me though that the current Apple mobos are some great, great technological wonder that blow away the latest offerings from let's say ASUS? The fact that I have serial ata connections on my motherboard, firewire, onboard raid, needless to mention USB2, which I have no real use for at the present. Sure I can't get a serial ata drive yet, but it's nice to have those connections for when they're out soon, as it's specs have obviously been finalized, so heck...Apple should be able to put them on theirs as well, but they're not there. So what other parts are there....hmm...let's look at the ide channels. ATA100 on the new macs...wow, that's about great, running a two drive 0 raid on that with the newest SE drives can come close to saturating that...if not saturate it at times. Needless to mention you'd be hardpressed to find a PC without ATA133.
What about the ability to configure your system? What about memory settings? Can you change the aggressiveness of your memory system and its latency on the mac? Obviously that's another issue besides the cpu as well.
I could go on forever, but won't...b/c as I said..I'm not here to trash the mac, never have been, never will be. I'm just saying that I hope that Moto or IBM has some real light to bring to the platform soon. Obviously not all the fault lies with Apple, yet some does. They could have and still have a super great computer just waiting for us, yet with no powerpc cpu worthy enough for it just yet. Hopefully this won't be the situation in 2003. Enough of the PC flamewar...like I said...each has it's advantages. I also didn't annouce a winner in my opinion, so please don't try and flame my way.
