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MacRumors
Mar 7, 2012, 12:32 PM
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Apple today introduced "the next iPad" (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/03/07Apple-Launches-New-iPad.html), the latest generation of the company's popular tablet device. Offering a Retina display measuring in at 2048 x 1536 pixels, Apple claims that it is "redefining the category Apple created" with the original iPad. At 264 pixels per inch, the new display is considered Retina quality with indistinguishable pixels when held at the typical viewing distance of 15 inches.

Featuring an A5X system-on-chip with quad-core graphics, the Retina display offer 44% greater color saturation than its predecessor. All of Apple's stock apps have been optimized for the new ultra-high resolution display and existing apps from third-party developers will be automatically scaled up with text rendered for the new resolution. With additional work, developers can also optimize their entire apps for the new display.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/03/ipad_3_hand.jpg


On the camera front, the updated iPad features a 5-megapixel rear camera with advanced optics very similar to those found in the 8-megapixel camera on the iPhone 4S. 1080p video recording is also supported. Voice dictation as found on the iPhone 4S is also included.

Cellular-capable models of the new iPad also support 4G LTE as had been rumored by multiple sources. Supporting data speeds of up to 21 Mbps on HSPA+, 42 Mbps on dual-carrier HSPA+, and 73 Mbps on LTE, the new iPad offers a significant improvement in cellular data capabilities. LTE partners include AT&T and Verizon in the United States and Rogers, Telus, and Bell in Canada. Due to differences in frequency bands, AT&T and Verizon support will require separate models.

On the battery life front, the new iPad offers the same levels as before: 10 hours on Wi-Fi or 9 hours on 4G LTE. As for the device's size, it comes it a scant 0.6 mm thicker than the iPad 2 at 9.4 mm thick, and weighs 1.4 pounds versus the 1.33-pound iPad 2.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/03/ipad_2_3_lineup.jpg


Image from gdgt (http://live.gdgt.com/live-apple-ipad-3-event-coverage/)
Pricing remains as before at $499/$599/$699 for Wi-Fi models and $629/$729/$829 for 4G LTE models, with capacities coming in at 16 GB, 32 GB, and 64 GB. The new iPad launches on March 16 in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Australia.

Apple will also continue to offer the 16 GB iPad 2 in both Wi-Fi ($399) and Wi-Fi + 3G ($529) models.

Article Link: Apple Introduces 'The New iPad' with Retina Display, A5X Chip, LTE, 5MP Rear Camera (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/07/apple-introduces-the-new-ipad-with-retina-display-a5x-chip-and-5-mp-rear-camera/)



mrsir2009
Mar 7, 2012, 12:34 PM
No flash?

[EDIT: ****, I didn't realize how that sounded! I meant the camera flash LOL!]

Andy-V
Mar 7, 2012, 12:35 PM
So, not full Siri by the sounds of it.

CylonGlitch
Mar 7, 2012, 12:35 PM
Two new toys I'm buying this month. My wife may complain, but it will be worth it. :D

polee
Mar 7, 2012, 12:35 PM
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Oh wow this is what I want!

shyam09
Mar 7, 2012, 12:35 PM
i ddn't think Siri would end up. I wouldn't use Siri on a tablet, just doesn't seem necessary for the purpose of the device

troop231
Mar 7, 2012, 12:40 PM
So it looks like Apple has dropped the numbering system from the iPad? :)

KylePowers
Mar 7, 2012, 12:41 PM
Very surprised at the lack of a front-facing HD camera (like those in an iMac or MBP). But then again, the MBA doesn't even have one. Hopefully it's still improved though!

EDIT- Also very surprised that it doesn't have Siri. While I never use it, I feel like I'd be more inclined to use it on an iPad than on my phone (giving commands to my phone in public is awkward in my opinion)

polee
Mar 7, 2012, 12:44 PM
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Yay it will be launched in Singapore on March 16!

striker33
Mar 7, 2012, 12:45 PM
So, not full Siri by the sounds of it.

Tbh you dont need full Siri in a tablet.

Your smartphone is your life, it goes with you at all times. A tablet, is not.

WatchTheThrone
Mar 7, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Looks like Siri will be an iPhone exclusive from now on!! Makes sense since Siri wouldn't be used as much on an iPad!!

tempusfugit
Mar 7, 2012, 12:46 PM
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Hooray for LTE, the most overpriced service ever. Same bandwidth prices as 3G and the speed to burn through your quota in minutes. Fun.

Simplicated
Mar 7, 2012, 12:46 PM
No flash?

People still do care about Flash? :eek:

thai4life
Mar 7, 2012, 12:47 PM
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The disappointments have only yet begun. A 5-MEG camera in a world of 8-MEG standards? With no flash...perfect. Keep em' coming. Been thru this with them before...

campingsk8er
Mar 7, 2012, 12:47 PM
so thankfully, they can't just all be called iPad now

Bchagey
Mar 7, 2012, 12:48 PM
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i ddn't think Siri would end up. I wouldn't use Siri on a tablet, just doesn't seem necessary for the purpose of the device

Agreed

mrsir2009
Mar 7, 2012, 12:48 PM
People still do care about Flash? :eek:

I meant camera flash :o

daneoni
Mar 7, 2012, 12:48 PM
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The disappointments have only yet begun. A 5-MEG camera in a world of 8-MEG standards? With no flash...perfect. Keep em' coming. Been thru this with them before...

The iPhone 4 5 MP camera is better than some of the 8MP cameras shipping. Sensor sensor sensor.

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OK what a joke of an update. After the 4s how could anyone expect more. So this is being marked as retina at 264 ppi. Oh wait that's at 15 inches away. Gotta love Apple and their marketing words. But of course they tailor their marketing to the level of intelligence of their customers. So you can't really fault them.

Do you hold your tablet as close to your face as you do your phone. If you're still so annoyed go and build your own true Retina Display tablet and ship it.

Timzer
Mar 7, 2012, 12:49 PM
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OK what a joke of an update. After the 4s how could anyone expect more. So this is being marked as retina at 264 ppi. Oh wait that's at 15 inches away. Gotta love Apple and their marketing words. But of course they tailor their marketing to the level of intelligence of their customers. So you can't really fault them.

davidinva
Mar 7, 2012, 12:52 PM
Availability and my funds will now match on or about June 1.

KamuiVII
Mar 7, 2012, 12:52 PM
I wonder if in iOS5.1 apple will allow us to move Newsstand in a ********** folder

mooncaine
Mar 7, 2012, 12:53 PM
Also very surprised that it doesn't have Siri. While I never use it, I feel like I'd be more inclined to use it on an iPad than on my phone (giving commands to my phone in public is awkward in my opinion)
Agreed.

I missed the details about Siri, I guess: what's different about Siri on the new iPad? It's not full Siri?

WatchTheThrone
Mar 7, 2012, 12:55 PM
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OK what a joke of an update. After the 4s how could anyone expect more. So this is being marked as retina at 264 ppi. Oh wait that's at 15 inches away. Gotta love Apple and their marketing words. But of course they tailor their marketing to the level of intelligence of their customers. So you can't really fault them.

Joke of an update?? This is everything you could ask for and more!! No other tablet will even come close to all these features with retina screen and same battery life!! Looks like Apple ain't letting up

nickelt
Mar 7, 2012, 12:55 PM
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No flash?

People still do care about Flash? :eek:

If it played flash i would buy it. It will never so im not getting one at the moment

KylePowers
Mar 7, 2012, 12:56 PM
Agreed.

I missed the details about Siri, I guess: what's different about Siri on the new iPad? It's not full Siri?
It's only voice dictation, as in voice-to-text. Useful, certainly. But why not just include all of Siri? Oh wellll

Dillenger
Mar 7, 2012, 12:57 PM
From what I'm reading thus far I don't know if it will be worth the upgrade, so I may skip this release and hold off for the next.

smiddlehurst
Mar 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
Superb upgrade, pretty much everything I wanted (and that was reasonable to expect). The 5Mp camera using iPhone 4S tech is fine by me, big enough to go native at iPad resolution and, in theory at least, if the sensor is the same size might actually get better lower light performance. Upgrade SOC (quad core graphics always made the most sense) and, of course, the Retina display.

Can I just ask, anyone complaining about this, what else did you expect that's caused you to feel let down?

daleski75
Mar 7, 2012, 01:03 PM
I am pretty impressed with what has been announced so far and will be interesting to see if it is indeed twice as fast as a tegra 3.

Quad core graphics a souped up dual core cpu is more than enough in my opinion.

Timzer
Mar 7, 2012, 01:05 PM
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So Apple promises more saturated colors. Oh oh, What are all the loyalist who hate the saturated colors of superamoled gonna say now. Windows 8 tablets this year will be the ones to offer a real full OS experience. It's not even close. But I'm sure a lot of kids will still want one. Leave the real tablets for the adults.

swordfish5736
Mar 7, 2012, 01:06 PM
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If it played flash i would buy it. It will never so im not getting one at the moment

people say this every once and awhile and i just must know what websites do you visit so often that have flash?

Spectrum Abuser
Mar 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
Hmm.. kind of a let down.
(In my opinion.)

MacBookPro13"
Mar 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
"New iPad". I don't think so..

daneoni
Mar 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
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So Apple promises more saturated colors. Oh oh, What are all the loyalist who hate the saturated colors of superamoled gonna say now. Windows 8 tablets this year will be the ones to offer a real full OS experience. It's not even close. But I'm sure a lot of kids will still want one. Leave the real tablets for the adults.

Have fun using an OS thats still confused about whether its a mobile OS or a desktop one.

aliensporebomb
Mar 7, 2012, 01:16 PM
Our workplace used to be the most windows centric pro-Microsoft place you could possibly imagine and now everyone walks around with iPhones and iPads and there's more than a few Macbook Pros, iMacs and Mac Minis around.

I can see some people not being super happy with this update but it seems nice to me. My workplace iPad will do nicely since my more pressing concern is an actual Mac instead of yet another IoS toy.

bad03xtreme
Mar 7, 2012, 01:16 PM
Alright, now hurry up and update the damn iMac. :mad:

nickelt
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If it played flash i would buy it. It will never so im not getting one at the moment

people say this every once and awhile and i just must know what websites do you visit so often that have flash?

Im a New Zealander living in Poland, the only way I can watch sports from home is by flash streaming. If there was another option i would use it but there isnt.

JustMartin
Mar 7, 2012, 01:18 PM
Very surprised at the lack of a front-facing HD camera (like those in an iMac or MBP). But then again, the MBA doesn't even have one. Hopefully it's still improved though!

EDIT- Also very surprised that it doesn't have Siri. While I never use it, I feel like I'd be more inclined to use it on an iPad than on my phone (giving commands to my phone in public is awkward in my opinion)

I guess the logic camera wise is that you don't really need HD for FaceTime conversations. You've got something better quality for pictures and kitten videos on the back.

Surprised at the lack of Siri as well. I'd like to organise my life from home.

Frazzle
Mar 7, 2012, 01:21 PM
Haha, you can almost watch two Cinemascope (2.35:1) movies stacked on that screen. And still have room to print the titles in a vertical strip on the side. Geez. How's that for a HandBrake preset? :D

MacBookPro13"
Mar 7, 2012, 01:22 PM
I'm getting an iPad 2..

jmnikricket
Mar 7, 2012, 01:24 PM
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It sucks when you read MR daily and so nothing unexpected happens (and on top of it you are slightly disappointed that some of the crazier rumors didn't pan out) :-/

Still want one though ;-D

nickelt
Mar 7, 2012, 01:25 PM
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Any news at what speed the a5x runs at?

Frazzle
Mar 7, 2012, 01:25 PM
A lot more to look forward to in 2012.

Have a look at that crescent beneath the '2012'. They're gonna buy Universal! :D

ECUpirate44
Mar 7, 2012, 01:26 PM
Preorders at 5 pm?

whooleytoo
Mar 7, 2012, 01:27 PM
The naming convention is going to be a bit weird.
- The old iPad
- The iPad 2
- The new iPad

Bchagey
Mar 7, 2012, 01:29 PM
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"the new iPad" doesn't roll off the toying well..it will forever be known as iPad 3 to me. I can see more people calling it iPad 3 than the new iPad. Anyways..
It loaded with brand new goodies, can't wait to see it at my doorstep.

nickelt
Mar 7, 2012, 01:30 PM
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The naming convention is going to be a bit weird.
- The old iPad
- The iPad 2
- The new iPad

Wait til the "really new ipad" comes next year.

daneoni
Mar 7, 2012, 01:30 PM
The naming convention is going to be a bit weird.
- The old iPad
- The iPad 2
- The new iPad

Everyone outside Apple will call it iPad3

davorp
Mar 7, 2012, 01:31 PM
I was about to get an iPad 3, but as it doesn't have 3D capabilities, I think i'll wait a bit longer.:(

CylonGlitch
Mar 7, 2012, 01:33 PM
The only "disappointment" was the price drop on the iPad2, they should have dropped it $200 and that would have really destroyed the competition. They could afford to not really make any margin on them now. Otherwise iPad3 (new iPad I guess) looks great.

danpass
Mar 7, 2012, 01:34 PM
I was thinking yesterday if they stall on the Retina display and don't do it on the ipad3 that this would have been an epic disappointment lol

djharris
Mar 7, 2012, 01:35 PM
I'm excited by that comment about how many radio bands it supports. This may mean that the LTE model will support Verizon OR AT&T (and their associated 3G networks) so you won't have to choose just one.

Dillenger
Mar 7, 2012, 01:35 PM
New videos are up on the Apple store with a pre-order button, but thus far the pre-order button is not operational.

FearlessFreep
Mar 7, 2012, 01:36 PM
I'm excited by that comment about how many radio bands it supports. This may mean that the LTE model will support Verizon OR AT&T (and their associated 3G networks) so you won't have to choose just one.

Nope -they already said there will be two models for the US - AT&T and Verizon separately.

swordfish5736
Mar 7, 2012, 01:36 PM
I'm getting an iPad 2..

you can buy mine :)


lol the apple store is not even back up yet and its already not loading/loading slowly every time i refresh

Jonny1989
Mar 7, 2012, 01:38 PM
Impressed! although for some reason im not as hyped to buy one now. Im thinking of sticking to iPad2.

djharris
Mar 7, 2012, 01:39 PM
Nope -they already said there will be two models for the US - AT&T and Verizon separately.

Oops, I didn't see that in the engadget live blog since I was following that. :(

WillEH
Mar 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
Wonder how many people will go in to debt just to get this, or take out a silly loan at 5000% APR to pay for it.

Got to go, need to go get a loan for the NEW iPad.

illian
Mar 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
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tsivah
Mar 7, 2012, 01:41 PM
How long on Friday before the "new" iPads will be at our doorstep if we choose to have it delivered?:confused:

AppleMad98004
Mar 7, 2012, 01:41 PM
Nope -they already said there will be two models for the US - AT&T and Verizon separately.

Nope ATT and Verizon use different radio bands for LTE so there are two separate model and you have to choose at purchase.

William.Mantle
Mar 7, 2012, 01:42 PM
Seriously unimpressed... No 128gb, heavier and less battery life if you use the new 4g feature.

As for 'new iPad'... Wow they must have stayed up all night on that one!

The down fall of apple begins.

Westyfield2
Mar 7, 2012, 01:43 PM
"The New iPad"

Did someone forget to update the slides with the actual name?

swordfish5736
Mar 7, 2012, 01:43 PM
Seriously unimpressed... No 128gb, heavier and less battery life if you use the new 4g feature.

As for 'new iPad'... Wow they must have stayed up all night on that one!

The down fall of apple begins.


its same battery life with wifi and same battery life with 3g as the previous model

Rocketman
Mar 7, 2012, 01:43 PM
The website refers to it simply as "iPad". I think they have gone generic and will say the new iPad every time they have a new iPad. The sheer number of permutations with carriers, colors, capacities, and release years is getting dense.

They now have 2 iPad 2 wifi/3G in 2 colors, and, three iPad capacities, two colors, each for wifi/ATT 4G/Verizon 4G.

That's 4 SKU's on iPad 2 and 18 SKU's on iPad (2012).

Rocketman

mduser63
Mar 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
The down fall of apple begins.

You realize that people say this in *every* MacRumors discussion thread about a new Apple product, right? I joined MacRumors in 2004, long before the iPhone and iPad and recent success of the Mac, and people were saying it back then.

satcomer
Mar 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
What about the front camera? Is it any better for FaceTime or Skype?

justinfreid
Mar 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
What about accessories? Maybe a new color for the Smart Covers? There was a new $39 SKU.

Dorje Sylas
Mar 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
Http/1.1 Service Unavailable :/

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/181/813/1726009-shut_up_and_take_my_money_super.jpg?1317708806

In action right there. :cool:

AppleMad98004
Mar 7, 2012, 01:45 PM
"The New iPad"

Did someone forget to update the slides with the actual name?

Actually to me think they are dropping everything going forward and just calling it iPad. The iPad "4" will be iPad etc.....

I'm sure this means the iPhone "5" will just be iPhone.....

gibbz
Mar 7, 2012, 01:45 PM
It's not the "New iPad". It's just the iPad and it's new. Apple is trying to train us to stop using the numbering system.

mceolsen
Mar 7, 2012, 01:47 PM
iPod will just be "iPod," iPhone will just be "iPhone, and iPad will now just be "iPad" - watch when iPhone 5 comes out - I bet it'll just be "iPhone"

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...otherwise, the iPhone 11 will sound pretty stupid...

kavika411
Mar 7, 2012, 01:47 PM
So, what do we make of the "touch" comment on the invitation? Is there something about the new iPad that makes people want to touch it more than prior iPads? Sure, I understand that it looks better, but that doesn't explain the "touch" comment. I wonder if they held back on something today - that they changed their mind on launching something new since the invitation went out.

rollzst
Mar 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
not bad, i will purchase but could have been a better update

Dorje Sylas
Mar 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
What about the front camera? Is it any better for FaceTime or Skype?

Yes, I believe it's the same quality as the front camera in the iPhone 4.

troop231
Mar 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
It's not the "New iPad". It's just the iPad and it's new. Apple is trying to train us to stop using the numbering system.

Good, I hope they drop the numbering system from the iPhone later this year too :)

Eriden
Mar 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
Wonder how many people will go in to debt just to get this, or take out a silly loan at 5000% APR to pay for it.

Go to go, need to go get a loan for the NEW iPad.

Even the lowest tier of 99%ers should be able to spend some of their EITC to nab a 16GB WiFi if they are that desperate. No need for usury.

whooleytoo
Mar 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
Interesting... the new iPad specs say Airplay Video streaming at 1080p; but Airplay mirroring at only 720p. No 1080p Airplay mirroring?

I wonder if that's a limitation of the iPad or the ATV?

CJM
Mar 7, 2012, 01:49 PM
Apple store servers getting hammered. Took 90 seconds just to load the page.

mfuchs88
Mar 7, 2012, 01:49 PM
The New iPad? Really? What about when newer ones come out and somebody asks which ipad you have. You say "the new iPad". Even though its four generations old. And what about accessories. From here on out, nobody can be sure which generation the accessories are for, since The New IPad is both a specific model, and a description of the most recent release... So incredibly stupid. Sounds horrible, looks horrible, and is horribly impractical. Im gonna go throw a sissy fit in front of my MBP, crying about my first world problems. But seriously Apple.... What were you thinking?

Edit: The only reason I was a little shocked was because i thought the name was literally "The New iPad" and would be printed just like that on packaging and accessories. I have no problem with them dropping the number system, just thought that they were including "New" in the generation name. No need to down vote so viciously, I was confused by the name, as were many here. I like it better that they're dropping the number system, I was just confused at first.

serferthom
Mar 7, 2012, 01:49 PM
hellz yeah no more silly numbers haha!!!!

kirk26
Mar 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
Store finally came up. So slow...

http://i.imgur.com/ZsdtB.jpg

shanmugam
Mar 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
why cold shoulder for front facing camera?

Skype is big mess with very bad front facing camera.

beowulf70
Mar 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
UK Apple Store finally back up.. but struggling...! :cool:
The new iPad... from 399...

kirk26
Mar 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
Made it to the second page lol!

http://i.imgur.com/bVyRB.jpg

Derpage
Mar 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
Having troubles with the concept of releasing such a high resolution display without increasing storage. I guess it's prime buying time for the (old) Ipad and we'll just have to wait for a "new" Ipad.

TallManNY
Mar 7, 2012, 01:51 PM
It's not the "New iPad". It's just the iPad and it's new. Apple is trying to train us to stop using the numbering system.

It is a silly thing they are trying to do since we will have to make up a name for this device to discuss it.
"Hey, is that the iPad?"
"Yes"
"Which one is it?"

"??? [Now I have to make up a name or use the name that everyone just ended up using, which might not be the same name that my friend has heard for the device.]"

ppdix
Mar 7, 2012, 01:51 PM
:eek:

UltimaKilo
Mar 7, 2012, 01:51 PM
So is the conference video available yet?

darthraige
Mar 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
Looks like I'll be going the MacBook Pro route.

smithrh
Mar 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
The only "disappointment" was the price drop on the iPad2, they should have dropped it $200 and that would have really destroyed the competition. They could afford to not really make any margin on them now.

With their dominance now, they would likely not be able to do this - they would very likely face dumping accusations.

Edd.Dantes
Mar 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
So, we're 100% sure it's dual core CPU and quad core GPU?

This is correct?

Defthand
Mar 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
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I wonder if in iOS5.1 apple will allow us to move Newsstand in a ********** folder

I believe Newstand itself is a folder, albeit a fancy one, considering that the magazines within it are apps. As you know, you can't place a folder within a folder in iOS.

FearlessFreep
Mar 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
Wow - good luck getting to the store anytime before, oh say, Friday.

steffapop
Mar 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
When is it possible to buy one of these badboys in your local Apple store? Does anybody know?

elmo151
Mar 7, 2012, 01:53 PM
I'm in :D

The 1 to 3 jump looks worth the $

As I recall iPhoto can edit 12 MB pics. I can [don't know how??] connect to my camera, load the pics, edit on the go, and upload to a Mac [don't know how]. I don't see taking snapshots with an iPan as a rational way to do serious photography.

CFreymarc
Mar 7, 2012, 01:53 PM
Two new toys I'm buying this month. My wife may complain, but it will be worth it. :D

They are still arguing about the final name. That will be on launch day.

Wives are cheaper by the dozen.

sphoenix
Mar 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
but will it blend???????

devinci99
Mar 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
What I want to know is will customers under the ipad2 unlimited plan be grandfathered into the *NEW* iPad's 4G/3G plans????

I'll hold on to my iPad2 a little longer if not.

FearlessFreep
Mar 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
Ha- can't even access the iOS Apple Store app. DEAD. Ain't no pre-orders getting done today, folks.

milo
Mar 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
iPod will just be "iPod," iPhone will just be "iPhone, and iPad will now just be "iPad" - watch when iPhone 5 comes out - I bet it'll just be "iPhone"

Which they've been doing for years with the various iPods. It's just nano or classic or touch - the official product name doesn't have a number but if people need to refer to which model it is they use the generation number. Same goes for macs too, they're not selling iMac 8 and MacBook Pro 5.

Muramasa
Mar 7, 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm just gonna leave this right here...

http://www.apple.com/support/products/ipad.html

ufwa
Mar 7, 2012, 01:56 PM
With their dominance now, they would likely not be able to do this - they would very likely face dumping accusations.

Its all about how you spin the price drop.

Spin in a way that it is used to promote adoption of it in schools. Throw up various claims by pilot programs.

I think they mentioned today about how it'll education adopting it easier.

patseguin
Mar 7, 2012, 01:56 PM
Will the Apple Store be back online sometime this decade? the press conference was like 2 hours ago.

mooncaine
Mar 7, 2012, 01:56 PM
It's only voice dictation, as in voice-to-text.

Thank you, Kyle. :)

Eriden
Mar 7, 2012, 01:56 PM
And only Apple could make a product announcement so popular that it effectively becomes a DDoS attack on their own website.

BuddyTronic
Mar 7, 2012, 01:56 PM
i ddn't think Siri would end up. I wouldn't use Siri on a tablet, just doesn't seem necessary for the purpose of the device

I think it's very much needed to have Siri on iPad!

It's great for dictation.

If you are making content on iPad, it can be good to have Siri for voice to text.

dmelgar
Mar 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
Apple store still down. Doesn't seem good. It should have come online as soon as the event was over. I cant remember them being so late before.

Any definitive word on how much RAM the "new" ipad has?

nazaar
Mar 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
seriously.... I'm sooo unimpressed.

I think I set the bar too high. Just imagine this was really all for new screen and an updated chip.

nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

cburton
Mar 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
Trying .... hard .... can't .... get .... into .... Apple .... Store lol

ufwa
Mar 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
So, we're 100% sure it's dual core CPU and quad core GPU?

This is correct?

Yes.

straight from apple.

"Dual-core Apple A5X custom-designed, high-performance, low-power system-on-a-chip with quad-core graphics"

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

Edd.Dantes
Mar 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
Nevermind.

Dual core CPU/ Quad core GPU

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7096/a5xt.png

dmelgar
Mar 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
I think it's very much needed to have Siri on iPad!

It's great for dictation.

If you are making content on iPad, it can be good to have Siri for voice to text.

They are including something called "dictation" on the new ipad.

clibinarius
Mar 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
You know...

Given that its already March and Apple didn't indicate anything with iOS 6, and there's no rumors that its being worked on besides simply existing (Something everyone knew), time is running out to announce this thing so developers can work on it...unless...

The next iphone comes out the same time as the iPhone 4s, one year later. That was pretty much confirmed by the lack of attention today IMO. Which isn't bad news, either. But I think its noteworthy.

Pointbreakd
Mar 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
I made it to the third page..selecting an iPad. then it crashed. Crap

CJM
Mar 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
seriously.... I'm sooo unimpressed.

I think I set the bar too high. Just imagine this was really all for new screen and an updated chip.

nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

What the hell were you expecting?

Comments like yours happen EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

kirk26
Mar 7, 2012, 01:59 PM
Slowly getting there. Says deliver on the 16th. :D

http://i.imgur.com/gVcuU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lEJJD.jpg

djrod
Mar 7, 2012, 01:59 PM
Where is the new $39 SKU? Why are they calling isight the cameras? I though they changed that to FaceTime cameras

iBug2
Mar 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
You know...

Given that its already March and Apple didn't indicate anything with iOS 6, and there's no rumors that its being worked on besides simply existing (Something everyone knew), time is running out to announce this thing so developers can work on it...unless...

The next iphone comes out the same time as the iPhone 4s, one year later. That was pretty much confirmed by the lack of attention today IMO. Which isn't bad news, either. But I think its noteworthy.

The iOS release schedule changed as of last years. Apple will probably keep releasing them on October with new iPhones. So, they'll be first heard of in June Developer's Conference, which makes perfect sense.

Before, when they were releasing iOS in June/July, they were announcing it in March. It's the exact same delay but only shifted.

MacDevil7334
Mar 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Wow, fantastic update overall. I'm definitely tempted to ditch my iPad 2 for the high-res display.

The only thing I'm a bid disappointed about is that the front camera is still VGA. Facetime calls already look crappy on the low-res display of the iPad 2. It's a shame the camera wasn't updated to take advantage of the retina display, especially when they did a big upgrade on the rear camera. The only time I use the rear camera is to show someone what I'm seeing during a Facetime call. I have only once ever seen one person try to use his iPad as a camera, and he looked quite silly doing it.

Other than that, I'm thrilled, and very tempted to throw down some serious money!

ayedgaf
Mar 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
to be honest im kinda disspointed on the name lol.. wth is "the new ipad" why not ipad 3g or ipad 3

Exhale
Mar 7, 2012, 02:01 PM
Any definitive word on how much RAM the "new" ipad has?
Probably 1gb, but I would not consider it unreasonable if it has 2gb due to the resolution. As far as I recall, there is no distinguishment between VRAM and RAM - and the iPad3's resolution will require a lot of VRAM for games, at least.

MacDarcy
Mar 7, 2012, 02:01 PM
My question is...with the iPad 3....will you FINALLY be able to transfer HD 1080p video shot with a canon dslr like the T3i to the ipad via the Apple cam kit....and then BE ABLE TO EDIT THAT VIDEO IN IMOVIE?!!!! Lol

Thats all i wanna know. Love my ipad 1st gen....but skipped the ipad 2nd gen cause it couldnt do this. I am a photographer/videographer/blogger who travels alot, and I LOVE the form factor of the ipad and all it does.

But this is the one sticking point for me. I know there will always be things a laptop or desktop can do that an ipad isnt meant for....however...Tim Cook keeps stressing about a "Post PC world"....and this is a real world application. People shoot high quality video with dslrs and would like to edit that video while on the road. It seems like the umbilical cord has been cut btwn the ios devices and computers with the icloud and syncing....but not being able to load and edit video directly onto your ipad keeps the device stuck in the umbilical cord days. I find it very annoying.

The new retina display and faster speed make it the perfect device to edit videos while on the road.

JustMartin
Mar 7, 2012, 02:01 PM
And only Apple could make a product announcement so popular that it effectively becomes a DDoS attack on their own website.

Of course, like the inevitable wait because they run out of stock immediately, this could all be part of Apple's marketing plan. They've pulled the plug on half a dozen of their servers to increase demand :) ;)

pavelbure
Mar 7, 2012, 02:01 PM
Just seems like a evolutionary jump, not revolutionary.
I'll stick with my iPad 2.

iBug2
Mar 7, 2012, 02:02 PM
What the hell were you expecting?

Comments like yours happen EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

Indeed. Whatever people were expecting more than this, they were just setting out for disappointment. This is an amazing update. Can't wait to buy my first iPad.

Robert M.
Mar 7, 2012, 02:02 PM
So, how much do you guys/gals think I'll be able to get for my 16GB 3G iPad 2? Since they only dropped the price by $100, do you think I could get like $400 for it? :D

I'm currently waiting for the store to open up, I need to pre-order one of these "new" iPads! It's a solid upgrade, and the Retina will make a huge difference. I use my iPad 2 everyday, so this upgrade is worth it.

kasei
Mar 7, 2012, 02:03 PM
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Im a New Zealander living in Poland, the only way I can watch sports from home is by flash streaming. If there was another option i would use it but there isnt.

Slingbox... http://slingbox.com/

Lesser Evets
Mar 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
So they are waiting for that Texas store to open before actually releasing it for sale... incredible.

j/k

Seems many rumors were true, as expected. However it now opens up a whole rung of vibrant rumors for the "iPad 4" coming in October. Or so it is rumored.

TallManNY
Mar 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
Does anyone know what AT&T and Verizon will charge for LTE connection for the new iPad? Any chance that my iPad 1 "unlimited" AT&T $30 service will grandfather in to the new device?

ppdix
Mar 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
:(

rollzst
Mar 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
come on apple still updating the ****ing store

Prospekt89
Mar 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
I can't help but feel a little let down that I already knew exactly what was coming!

Epic Xbox Revie
Mar 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
Does anyone know what AT&T and Verizon will charge for LTE connection for the new iPad? Any chance that my iPad 1 "unlimited" AT&T $30 service will grandfather in to the new device?

I'd like to know this too

16shatzerj
Mar 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
The only "disappointment" was the price drop on the iPad2, they should have dropped it $200 and that would have really destroyed the competition. They could afford to not really make any margin on them now. Otherwise iPad3 (new iPad I guess) looks great.

I know right, I wanted a lower price for it to be. I was watching a live coverage and the guy said "Wait, they are talking about the iPad 2 price. They will still be selling it." I was like :eek: then when he said only $100 I was like :(.

dexx0008
Mar 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
woo hoo, order in! :D

euvnairb
Mar 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
come on apple still updating the ****ing store

Looks liek some people were able to get through.

ILikeTurtles
Mar 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
IDK but suddenly my credit card isn't burning hot over this one.

VulchR
Mar 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
....
Wives are cheaper by the dozen.

Obviously written by somebody who has never had to pay alimony...

EDIT: LOL, Applestore UK still down...
ONE MORE TIME: UK store up, but calling the iPad 'Resolutionary'? Ugh.

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Looks like Siri will be an iPhone exclusive from now on!! Makes sense since Siri wouldn't be used as much on an iPad!!

I disagree. I don't use voice assistants like Siri on a phone, but I would at least play with something like SpeakToIt or Siri on a desktop or my notebook. I still don't see the usefulness of a tablet, but since a tablet is also an in-door device, I could imagine using a voice assistant there. On a phone, in public - njet, towarischtsch.

Pointbreakd
Mar 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
woo hoo, order in! :D

online or by phone?

patseguin
Mar 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
I have to have every new iPad and I'm hitting reload like a freak. Didn't Apple have enough planning to have the store read once the press release was over, come on...

NEBaghead
Mar 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
Made it to the Engrave page on the Store App and then it went to the "We'll Be Back Soon" message!!!!

coltman75
Mar 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
It is a silly thing they are trying to do since we will have to make up a name for this device to discuss it.
"Hey, is that the iPad?"
"Yes"
"Which one is it?"

"??? [Now I have to make up a name or use the name that everyone just ended up using, which might not be the same name that my friend has heard for the device.]"

How do you do it with an iPod, or a MacBook? After today, iPhone is the only apple product that is numbered by generation. (which is okay, since they're selling three generations of them right now)

OS X Dude
Mar 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
Pre-ordering on Monday through my university network to get my 6% student discount :P On top of that, sold my mum's old TouchPad for 140 (paid 90 for it from work :P) and given her my old iPad 1 - which she actually prefers - in return.

All in, the 32GB 'next iPad' will cost me 329 :D

Will they still be accepting pre-orders on Monday, or do they stop when they reach their initial stock capacity?

Muramasa
Mar 7, 2012, 02:08 PM
Where is the new $39 SKU? Why are they calling isight the cameras? I though they changed that to FaceTime cameras

It seems like they've decided on: Front Camera = FaceTime Camera, Back Camera = iSight Camera. Which makes sense.

Patriks7
Mar 7, 2012, 02:08 PM
iPod will just be "iPod," iPhone will just be "iPhone, and iPad will now just be "iPad" - watch when iPhone 5 comes out - I bet it'll just be "iPhone"

----------

...otherwise, the iPhone 11 will sound pretty stupid...

This. I know other companies number their devices, but it never seemed Apple-like. After all, we don't see them introducing the, say, MacBook 5, do we?

gugy
Mar 7, 2012, 02:08 PM
Solid update.
But I am not sure I am buying it because I do not think will be that necessary since I have the iPad 2.

Richdmoore
Mar 7, 2012, 02:08 PM
I'm just gonna leave this right here...

http://www.apple.com/support/products/ipad.html

Thanks. Only issue I see is how to get verification of no damage if you live far away from an apple store... (The page mentioned you have to make an appointment with a genious to verify no damage to register the protection.) Is this the way AppleCare + worked for the iPhone 4s?

daneoni
Mar 7, 2012, 02:09 PM
Worst part about every event. Getting back into the store to buy announced stuff.

Servers STILL can't handle it! :mad:

chrismac2
Mar 7, 2012, 02:09 PM
Where is the new $39 SKU? Why are they calling isight the cameras? I though they changed that to FaceTime cameras

I was wondering the same thing myself. I hadn't heard them use the term iSight in a while.....

But I see, as another poster said, that they are referring to the front camera as the FaceTime camera, and the back camera, the iSight camera.....

entatlrg
Mar 7, 2012, 02:09 PM
seriously.... I'm sooo unimpressed.

I think I set the bar too high. Just imagine this was really all for new screen and an updated chip.

nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

Wow, just wow ... black cloud over you today?

rollzst
Mar 7, 2012, 02:09 PM
Pre-ordering on Monday through my university network to get my 6% student discount :P On top of that, sold my mum's old TouchPad for 140 (paid 90 for it from work :P) and given her my old iPad 1 which she prefers in return.

All in, the 32GB 'next iPad' will cost me 329 :D

Will they still be accepting pre-orders on Monday, or do they stop when they reach their initial stock capacity?]

will you get student discount on iPad?

fred222
Mar 7, 2012, 02:09 PM
With the name being de-numerated like other product lines have been, and with the "so much to come 2012" slide, it does seem possible w/ rumors etc. that they will be introducing another new iPad this year - possible an iPad with the retina and haptic, and an iPad mini with retina and haptic. What say ye?

joecatz
Mar 7, 2012, 02:09 PM
The only "disappointment" was the price drop on the iPad2, they should have dropped it $200 and that would have really destroyed the competition. They could afford to not really make any margin on them now. Otherwise iPad3 (new iPad I guess) looks great.

the problem with that would have been the saturation between the new Ipad and the ipad2... To me, at least, the features of the new one are worth the additional $100 and i would guess there are a lot of people (myself included) who will justify buying a new 16g wifi model, while still keeping the 32 or 64g ipad2 they bought last year, with the icloud integration making storage less important (especially if you have an apple tv as well)... for $299? I might actually consider buying another Ipad2 instead...

as far as new consumers? the $100 price difference just opened up a big market for price conscious buyers, and the same price for the new one probably takes many of the fence sitters off the fence as well.

Pricing is pretty spot on, IMO.

rollzst
Mar 7, 2012, 02:10 PM
With the name being de-numerated like other product lines have been, and with the "so much to come 2012" slide, it does seem possible w/ rumors etc. that they will be introducing another new iPad this year - possible an iPad with the retina and haptic, and an iPad mini with retina and haptic. What say ye?

not a chance, well maybe iPad mini but not another big iPad

guch20
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If it played flash i would buy it. It will never so im not getting one at the moment

You're joking right? You know that Adobe doesn't even support or update mobile Flash, right? You know they've given up and encouraged developers to support HTML5 on mobile devices, right? I sure hope so.

danderton
Mar 7, 2012, 02:10 PM
Pre-ordering on Monday through my university network to get my 6% student discount :P On top of that, sold my mum's old TouchPad for 140 (paid 90 for it from work :P) and given her my old iPad 1 which she prefers in return.

All in, the 32GB 'next iPad' will cost me 329 :D

Will they still be accepting pre-orders on Monday, or do they stop when they reach their initial stock capacity?

You sure you get discount on iPads - certainly can't as a student - just pcs

bryanescuela
Mar 7, 2012, 02:11 PM
Apple Store is getting HAMMERED...

ncaissie
Mar 7, 2012, 02:11 PM
people say this every once and awhile and i just must know what websites do you visit so often that have flash?

Try us.playstation.com/psn or any gaming website. One of the biggest features of the iPad and one of the reasons I purchased one is gaming. I'm a big time gamer and love to visit game site. Most use flash.

Kenrik
Mar 7, 2012, 02:11 PM
We killed the Apple Store.. I can't get in. I was at the "Select Ipad" stage but it went back to "We'll be back soon"

AppleMad98004
Mar 7, 2012, 02:11 PM
Anyone know if AT&T boosted the prices for connecting to the LTE network?????

WatchTheThrone
Mar 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
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I was right they just called it an iPad!!

dwmac
Mar 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
In the US online store, I've gotten as far as the "select a model" screen, but no further....

electrolux76
Mar 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
Hi Everybody,
I just wanted to chime in regarding the people complaining about apple using the Retina Display name even with a lower pixel density.

Viewing distance isn't just some excuse that Apple made up. This is an established rule in the print industry. I spent several years doing fine art printing and this formula has been around forever. If you have a print that is going to be displayed at 16x20 inches and determine that 300ppi is a good resolution for your file at that size, you can take the exact same image printed at 30x40 inches and drop the resolution to 240 or so ppi with perfectly fine results. This all has to do with normal viewing distance, people will view a 30"x40" print on a wall from a farther distance than they will a 16"x20" print.

The explanation that Apple is using, is the exact same principal and is totally valid. I sometimes think some of Apple's marketing mumbo jumbo goes overboard at times but not in this case.

NutsNGum
Mar 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
You sure you get discount on iPads - certainly can't as a student - just pcs

You get around a tenner off. Nothing more.

Certainly not as much as 6%.

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
So, when is iOS 5.1 coming out, and why did we get so little news about it? I was expecting some pretty important stuff, but all we got was Japanese Siri. That hardly seems worth the .1, and Apple should have just called this update 5.0.2.

0dev
Mar 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
So the new iPad is called the new iPad... Very imaginative marketing department you have there, Apple.

dexx0008
Mar 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
online or by phone?

was trying both online and through app on iphone, got through using app on phone. email confirmation just came in too. i opted for shipping to house vs. store (MN)

i got to the checkout button on phone, couldn't get appleID sign in to work until it looked like apple pulled the store again, my browser only can get we'll be back soon.... now.

hope the rest of you get in

daneoni
Mar 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
Pre-ordering on Monday through my university network to get my 6% student discount :P On top of that, sold my mum's old TouchPad for 140 (paid 90 for it from work :P) and given her my old iPad 1 - which she actually prefers - in return.

All in, the 32GB 'next iPad' will cost me 329 :D

Will they still be accepting pre-orders on Monday, or do they stop when they reach their initial stock capacity?

Hate to burst your bubble but iDevices don't qualify for any form of education discount in the UK.

kirk26
Mar 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
Anyone know if AT&T boosted the prices for connecting to the LTE network?????

See one my previous post. I took a screenshot of the pricing for AT&T and Verizon when selecting my iPad when the page died.

WatchTheThrone
Mar 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
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I'm wondering if the A5X dual core is based on the new A15 architecture or uses the older A9 architecture?? Im thinking to power the retina it has to be A15 based.

Hmmmm....

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
Try us.playstation.com/psn or any gaming website. One of the biggest features of the iPad and one of the reasons I purchased one is gaming. I'm a big time gamer and love to visit game site. Most use flash.

Well that's their problem, since mobile Flash no longer exists (according to Adobe, who no longer support or develop it). These people need to get with the times.

Drewswa77
Mar 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
When I got a new iMac last year I almost bought a PC because I wanted it to be called the iMac 18. WTF Apple? Almost lost a customer for life.

to be honest im kinda disspointed on the name lol.. wth is "the new ipad" why not ipad 3g or ipad 3

brdeveloper
Mar 7, 2012, 02:15 PM
BTW, why should I want a tablet?

Tablet frenesi looks like when the first explorers came to America and gave mirrors to indigenous people in exchange for gold. Beautiful toy at the first using but it's not worth for the money spent.

rollzst
Mar 7, 2012, 02:15 PM
im wondering how much ram it will have

KPOM
Mar 7, 2012, 02:16 PM
Does anyone else think that maybe Apple should implement a "virtual waiting room" for their online store on launch day the way sports teams often do when playoff tickets go on sale?

i.mac
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If it played flash i would buy it. It will never so im not getting one at the moment

Flash from the past...


Punt intended. Even adobe dropped flash from mobile devices.

litfuel
Mar 7, 2012, 02:17 PM
almost get in via app but then sorry store is gone again. wtf apple you know you will get slammed, but why prepare for it.

Xtremehkr
Mar 7, 2012, 02:18 PM
There was just a conversation yesterday about de-numerating the iPad and iPhone. I wonder if this years iPhone will also just be the new iPhone, instead of the iPhone 5.

elmo151
Mar 7, 2012, 02:18 PM
BTW, why should I want a tablet?

Tablet frenesi looks like when the first explorers came to America and gave mirrors to indigenous people in exchange for gold. Beautiful toy at the first using but it's not worth for the money spent.

"Worth" is in the eyes of the beholder. ;)

OS X Dude
Mar 7, 2012, 02:18 PM
]

will you get student discount on iPad?

Yes, I rang Apple and asked. 11% on most other stuff, 6% on iPad.

iSee
Mar 7, 2012, 02:20 PM
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The disappointments have only yet begun. A 5-MEG camera in a world of 8-MEG standards? With no flash...perfect. Keep em' coming. Been thru this with them before...

I don't see using the iPad for snapping photos. It's large and awkward compared to, well, any other option. It's a nice to have the option I guess, but a camera for shooting photos won't make or break the iPad. The video conferencing aspect of the camera is much more important.

Edd.Dantes
Mar 7, 2012, 02:20 PM
im wondering how much ram it will have

+1024 ;)

I hope...

mac4good84
Mar 7, 2012, 02:20 PM
The Apple store is still down...for crying out loud....

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:20 PM
IDK but suddenly my credit card isn't burning hot over this one.

Why, because getting all the hot stuff we were hoping to get before it was announced isn't enough for you? You wanted maybe a free unicorn with purchase?

Muramasa
Mar 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
Thanks. Only issue I see is how to get verification of no damage if you live far away from an apple store... (The page mentioned you have to make an appointment with a genious to verify no damage to register the protection.) Is this the way AppleCare + worked for the iPhone 4s?

Yeah, it's exactly the same policy as the 4S. The reason is because you can buy AppleCare+ after you've damaged your device and when you're getting it repaired at the Genius Bar, but it ends up being about $100 more expensive. So, they need to verify it's not already broken at the bar to sell it to you for the cheaper price.

Bevz
Mar 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
How is it that i sat on the refresh button of my browser hitting it every 5 seconds and got into the UK store within 5 seconds of it opening and couldn't get a pre-order in? Store down now. For those that did get an order in... any advice on how the hell you did it!!? ;)

derek1984
Mar 7, 2012, 02:22 PM
This is why Apple wouldn't give a time.

fred222
Mar 7, 2012, 02:23 PM
I don't see using the iPad for snapping photos. It's large and awkward compared to, well, any other option. It's a nice to have the option I guess, but a camera for shooting photos won't make or break the iPad. The video conferencing aspect of the camera is much more important.

Unfortunately the quote didn't quote your signature, which mentions that you'd eat bananas every day if they were crunchy.

OH MAN! You've never had Plaintains, have you? They're a type of banana that you buy green, slice up, and fry. CRUNCHY BANANAS!

Your local latin grocer will have both bags of pre-fried plantains as well as fresh fruit for you to slice and fry up yourself. That's some good eats right there.

jeffpitman
Mar 7, 2012, 02:23 PM
The New iPad? Really? What about when newer ones come out and somebody asks which ipad you have. You say "the new iPad". Even though its four generations old. And what about accessories. From here on out, nobody can be sure which generation the accessories are for, since The New IPad is both a specific model, and a description of the most recent release... So incredibly stupid. Sounds horrible, looks horrible, and is horribly impractical. Im gonna go throw a sissy fit in front of my MBP, crying about my first world problems. But seriously Apple.... What were you thinking?

Did you post that in front of you MBP....or perhaps you MBP 5. Apple products have NEVER used numbers to describe them, why start now? iMac, Macbook, Mac Pro, Macbook Air, none have numbers and they exist without much drama...it will be ok, deep breaths...

Thunderhawks
Mar 7, 2012, 02:23 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.7; en-us; SGH-T959V Build/GINGERBREAD) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

OK what a joke of an update. After the 4s how could anyone expect more. So this is being marked as retina at 264 ppi. Oh wait that's at 15 inches away. Gotta love Apple and their marketing words. But of course they tailor their marketing to the level of intelligence of their customers. So you can't really fault them.

How much of a D$%* can you be?

This is an amazing machine from the company that created the entire tablet market.

Buy a Galaxy tablet or open up your own company to make a product you like.

Why are you even on this website? Don't like the 4S, don't like the ipad.
Clicked on the wrong windoof link?

Please list your creations and accomplishments, so we can all rip you!

William.Mantle
Mar 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
Unfortunately the quote didn't quote your signature, which mentions that you'd eat bananas every day if they were crunchy.

OH MAN! You've never had Plaintains, have you? They're a type of banana that you buy green, slice up, and fry. CRUNCHY BANANAS!

Your local latin grocer will have both bags of pre-fried plantains as well as fresh fruit for you to slice and fry up yourself. That's some good eats right there.

Stay on topic please or leave

davidcmc
Mar 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
Flash from the past...


Punt intended. Even adobe dropped flash from mobile devices.

You shouldn't say things that you don't even understand.
Adobe didn't drop Flash support for mobile devices.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adobe.flashplayer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hZG9iZS5mbGFzaHBsYXllciJd
Updated:
March 5, 2012

ipedro
Mar 7, 2012, 02:25 PM
I wasn't too surprised that Siri wasn't included in the new iPad because it's still in beta according to Apple. I'm sure it will be ready for wide release in iOS6. The new iPad is certainly capable of running Siri so it'll come in a software update. I'm inclined to believe that it will also be announced for MountainLion @ WWDC.

Gasu E.
Mar 7, 2012, 02:27 PM
The naming convention is going to be a bit weird.
- The old iPad
- The iPad 2
- The new iPad

Absolutely agree. Very nice product (I expect to buy one), but bad name. I kept watching, expecting them to announce the REAL name at the end. :(

Richdmoore
Mar 7, 2012, 02:27 PM
Yeah, it's exactly the same policy as the 4S. The reason is because you can buy AppleCare+ after you've damaged your device and when you're getting it repaired at the Genius Bar, but it ends up being about $100 more expensive. So, they need to verify it's not already broken at the bar to sell it to you for the cheaper price.

Ok, so how do you verify your product is in good shape if you live well away from an apple store? (It's a 5 hour drive to the nearest retail store.)

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
You shouldn't say things that you don't even understand.
Adobe didn't drop Flash support for mobile devices.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adobe.flashplayer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hZG9iZS5mbGFzaHBsYXllciJd
Updated:
March 5, 2012

He's right. Adobe is no longer developing it. They are, however, providing bug support for devices that already run it. But newer devices won't run it. So a device running mobile Flash just means it's old fashioned.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396093,00.asp

rnizlek
Mar 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
Ok, so how do you verify your product is in good shape if you live well away from an apple store? (It's a 5 hour drive to the nearest retail store.)

You don't. Either buy it with the product or purchase 3rd party coverage from a company like Squaretrade. I'm in the same boat as you - several hours away from an Apple Store. I'm just going to purchase it at the same time as my iPad.

spice weasel
Mar 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
The Apple store is still down...for crying out loud....

I know! This is getting a little ridiculous. It's been nearly two hours since the announcement and I'm still getting the "We'll be back soon" sticky on the Apple Store page. I expected some delays but I'm getting antsy!!!

GroundLoop
Mar 7, 2012, 02:31 PM
Well I have my 32GB Wi-Fi (Black) on order...woohoo!

GL

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:31 PM
So, besides Japanese Siri, any word on iOS 5.1? If that's all there is, that'd be a pretty disappointing update.

fupresti
Mar 7, 2012, 02:32 PM
32GB White with Verizon LTE on order! With the tethering I can even get rid of my LTE hotspot.

iSee
Mar 7, 2012, 02:32 PM
seriously.... I'm sooo unimpressed.

I think I set the bar too high. Just imagine this was really all for new screen and an updated chip.

nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

And LTE, and dictation (might be the most useful thing they added after the screen, BTW) and a better camera (FWIW).

Honestly, what else could they have possibly done? (Especially with keeping the same battery life and almost the same size & weight?) I don't know what you were expecting, but it couldn't have been realistic.

Well, it could have had the full Siri. That's about it.

unobtainium
Mar 7, 2012, 02:32 PM
seriously.... I'm sooo unimpressed.

I think I set the bar too high. Just imagine this was really all for new screen and an updated chip.

nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

I'm just curious...what were you actually expecting? Almost everything was updated:

- much better screen
- much better camera
- much better graphics (quad-core)
- 4G LTE
- (probably) more RAM

What were you hoping for? A quad-core CPU? 128gb model? Haptic feedback? Those are the only features that didn't make the cut, but I'm not sure if haptic feedback ever will, and the other two will probably be saved for the next iPad. They have to save something for the next-gen...

Edit: I forgot about Siri. I'm actually kinda surprised that they didn't include the full Siri. Seems odd.

richlizard24
Mar 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
Well I have my 32GB Wi-Fi (Black) on order...woohoo!

GL

How?

marcusj0015
Mar 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
The name is completely retarded.

GroundLoop
Mar 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
How?

ordered by telephone...;)

Crazy huh?

GL

derek1984
Mar 7, 2012, 02:34 PM
Are people really getting through the Apple site? I have been trying for over an hour, nothing but We'll Be Back Soon.

richlizard24
Mar 7, 2012, 02:35 PM
ordered by telephone...;)

Crazy huh?

GL

I called them and they said they couldn't take any orders.

grimmace
Mar 7, 2012, 02:36 PM
apple store down since 1 second of being up. Apparently apple once again is not ready to make sales.

ipodlover77
Mar 7, 2012, 02:37 PM
Are people really getting through the Apple site? I have been trying for over an hour, nothing but We'll Be Back Soon.

same here. can't even get through on the tele.

KPOM
Mar 7, 2012, 02:37 PM
Edit: I forgot about Siri. I'm actually kinda surprised that they didn't include the full Siri. Seems odd.

It's still listed as "beta." It can be added later as software if Apple wants to do so.

DudeDad
Mar 7, 2012, 02:37 PM
Snagged one for a gift....web page was not responding, did it with my Apple Store App before it was shut down and got the email confirmation!

cmioblog
Mar 7, 2012, 02:37 PM
I am getting the same "We'll be back soon" site. Ugh

dexx0008
Mar 7, 2012, 02:38 PM
Are people really getting through the Apple site? I have been trying for over an hour, nothing but We'll Be Back Soon.

apple site? <shrug> person above ordered by phone, i used the iphone app. already received my confirmation by email. arrives at house on the 16th (supposedly) opted for standard shipping.

i knew demand would be high, just wished apple could scale more for it. I'm sure they have lots of hardware behind that store too. it's not like it is in their best interest to be down and not take the money we are throwing at them.

BlueParadox
Mar 7, 2012, 02:38 PM
I was about to get an iPad 3, but as it doesn't have 3D capabilities, I think i'll wait a bit longer.:(

And no 4D! I wanted the ability to go back and watch myself write this, write this...

iSee
Mar 7, 2012, 02:38 PM
Unfortunately the quote didn't quote your signature, which mentions that you'd eat bananas every day if they were crunchy.

OH MAN! You've never had Plaintains, have you? They're a type of banana that you buy green, slice up, and fry. CRUNCHY BANANAS!

Your local latin grocer will have both bags of pre-fried plantains as well as fresh fruit for you to slice and fry up yourself. That's some good eats right there.

Mmmmm... crunchy bananas! Tasty, tasty, off-topic crunchy bananas!!! I will try these soon...

Plus an on-topic comment:

I think this is a fantastic iPad update. I think because of the rumors we got so used to the idea of a retina iPad that we might have forgotten just how awsome this is going to be. I challenge the doubters to try one out and see if they are not greatly impressed by the newip's screen.

Bevz
Mar 7, 2012, 02:38 PM
Are people really getting through the Apple site? I have been trying for over an hour, nothing but We'll Be Back Soon.

I've been trying since the store originally opening after the press event (literally 5 seconds after it opened!!!) and i've still not get a pre-order in :( I think some people must be using voodoo or something!

GroundLoop
Mar 7, 2012, 02:38 PM
I called them and they said they couldn't take any orders.

The first time I called they said that they couldn't take calls due to overwhelming volume. I got through on the second attempt. Guss I was lucky...sat on hold waiting for a customer rep for about 8 minutes, then it started ringing for about 10 mins and finally someone picked up. Placed my order and all is good.

GL

spice weasel
Mar 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
Well I have my 32GB Wi-Fi (Black) on order...woohoo!

GL

How did you manage to even get into the store site? No such luck here.

EDIT: Sorry, posted this before I realized you had phoned your order in.

jrcsh6
Mar 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
i've had it ready to be added to the basket twice and then crashes...

Eriden
Mar 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
Talked to a telesales rep and they said that their system was down, and could not take any orders. Maybe people who've had success are outside the US?

richlizard24
Mar 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
The first time I called they said that they couldn't take calls due to overwhelming volume. I got through on the second attempt. Guss I was lucky...sat on hold waiting for a customer rep for about 8 minutes, then it started ringing for about 10 mins and finally someone picked up. Placed my order and all is good.

GL

I got through too but he told me they had to call me back.

scoobydoo99
Mar 7, 2012, 02:40 PM
If it played flash i would buy it. It will never so im not getting one at the moment

And if it played cassette tapes, it would REALLY sell! :rolleyes:

richlizard24
Mar 7, 2012, 02:40 PM
Talked to a telesales rep and they said that their system was down, and could not take any orders. Maybe people who've had success are outside the US?

Maybe because I was told the same thing and I am in the US.

Bevz
Mar 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
apple site? <shrug> person above ordered by phone, i used the iphone app. already received my confirmation by email. arrives at house on the 16th (supposedly) opted for standard shipping.

i knew demand would be high, just wished apple could scale more for it. I'm sure they have lots of hardware behind that store too. it's not like it is in their best interest to be down and not take the money we are throwing at them.

I just get the store closed screen when i try and use the app! :( Think i may have missed the boat :( i should have used the app at the beginning!

Jonny Skyves
Mar 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
Not really sure about leaving out some sort of model identifier..

I recently had a neighbor ask me to help him install final cut on his iMac. I have never had an iMac... Just MBP and iPad iPhones etc.

Problems started as he did not have enough ram. Trying to find the model of iMac wasn't easy :confused:

I can't remember how I cracked it, which means Google is gonna be my friend again when I need to do the ram on the wife's black MacBook so I can install Lion.

This problem is going to crop up in a couple of years with the iPad too, for example, when buying a cover.

Maybe there is an easy way out there to identify particular models... Using the serial number ???

If anyone knows the easy way, please let me know! For some reason I always get asked to help with Apple problems by friends ... Really don't know why!

remizart1
Mar 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
No Siri WTF.... why not if we can jailbreak an iPad2 with Siri on it! I was sooooooo looking forward :-(

kirk26
Mar 7, 2012, 02:42 PM
And if it played cassette tapes, it would REALLY sell! :rolleyes:

8-track tapes buddy. ;):D

sonicboom
Mar 7, 2012, 02:42 PM
Did you post that in front of you MBP....or perhaps you MBP 5. Apple products have NEVER used numbers to describe them, why start now? iMac, Macbook, Mac Pro, Macbook Air, none have numbers and they exist without much drama...it will be ok, deep breaths...

Um, Apple II - hello?

Eriden
Mar 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
Got in, order processed. Waiting on email confirm.

64GB 4G AT&T (White)

sekazi
Mar 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
I need one thing answered to know if I understood correctly.


Apple said LTE will be AT&T or Verizon specific but they said that 3G will be world ready. So if I bought a LTE AT&T could I use Verizon 3G or any 3G provider pretty much?

Jaasen Jones
Mar 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
i ddn't think Siri would end up. I wouldn't use Siri on a tablet, just doesn't seem necessary for the purpose of the device

I use my iPad 2 all the time for my contracting work, making appointments and recording them. My iPad 2 is also my gps (I have it mounted in my truck). Much of my time is spent searching for peoples addresses. It would be awesome to have Full Siri capabilities to google addresses and record appointments without having to type everything in.

Just because it doesn't seem necessary for you, does not mean it's the same for everyone else.

Newyorkjsw
Mar 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
It seems that this new 3gen ipad only offers a VGA Video quality for 'Face Time' video calls on WiFi on the front lens?

If so that is a real mistake and seems like a marketing move but wrong to customers laying out a ton of money on these units!

I know all the new Macbook Pro models feature 720 progressive video that is broadcast out thru HD Face Time.


:(

xraydoc
Mar 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
Apple store still down :(

William.Mantle
Mar 7, 2012, 02:45 PM
Role on 'new iPad 2'

128gb please!

litfuel
Mar 7, 2012, 02:45 PM
store is back up, just got my order through super fast for a white 16gb wifi

Alith
Mar 7, 2012, 02:45 PM
Got a 32GB White 4G in the UK through the Apple Store app. The website never got past the third screen and then just went down altogether. It looks like the app is also down now as I'm trying to get the AppleTV on a separate order.

Pointbreakd
Mar 7, 2012, 02:46 PM
Just ordered through online store.

scottish
Mar 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
How was iPad 2 availability at stores in the US 3-4 weeks after launch? I'll be visiting around this time and would like to purchase the new iPad. Thanks.

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:48 PM
And if it played cassette tapes, it would REALLY sell! :rolleyes:

Seriously. I'm waiting for the Betamax-enabled version, myself. Get on it Apple! You must really want to lose to Android!

Muramasa
Mar 7, 2012, 02:48 PM
So looking at the tech specs for the new iPad, it says it requires iTunes 10.6

See how 10.5.3 is out right now, I wonder what big updates are included to justify a such a large number jump?

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

It says it'll be available soon, so maybe we'll find out today?

grimmace
Mar 7, 2012, 02:49 PM
Store up, store down error ****in appl!

hpwc121
Mar 7, 2012, 02:49 PM
It is a silly thing they are trying to do since we will have to make up a name for this device to discuss it.
"Hey, is that the iPad?"
"Yes"
"Which one is it?"

"??? [Now I have to make up a name or use the name that everyone just ended up using, which might not be the same name that my friend has heard for the device.]"

It's just going to be the same as an iPod Touch, Macbook Pro, iMac, etc... You can call it 3rd gen iPad, iPad 2012... it's not that difficult.

richlizard24
Mar 7, 2012, 02:50 PM
Store came back up and I was able to get my order through in seconds. iPad 32 GB WiFi Black and an Apple TV!

scoobydoo99
Mar 7, 2012, 02:50 PM
Apple store still down :(

actually, it's not. just placed my order (3:46 Eastern time). You just have to keep reloading the "be back soon" page. Once into the store every page loaded fast.

rnizlek
Mar 7, 2012, 02:52 PM
Speed of the store seems to have picked up considerably for me. Just placed my order for 2 32 GB WiFi models (black), a copy of Applecare+ and a red leather smart cover. Woohoo! First iPad for me!

Robert M.
Mar 7, 2012, 02:52 PM
Ugh, got to the last page (checkout), and it gave me an error! :mad:

MacLawyer
Mar 7, 2012, 02:53 PM
I think the $399.00 iPad spells trouble for the Android contenders. At four hundred U.S., iPad 2 is (IMO) still better than any Android device I have seen to date (having no life, I play with all of them at places like Best Buy). And this is any Android device at any price point.

Consider this: Ist gen. Android devices are still stuck at Honeycomb, Lollypop, or whatever. iPad 1 owners are downloading IOS 5.1 right now....Wirelessly.

guch20
Mar 7, 2012, 02:53 PM
So looking at the tech specs for the new iPad, it says it requires iTunes 10.6

See how 10.5.3 is out right now, I wonder what big updates are included to justify a such a large number jump?

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

It says it'll be available soon, so maybe we'll find out today?

Good find. 10.6 is out now. I'm downloading it. Pictures on Apple's site look the same though.