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mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 04:52 PM
At least at Sprint and AT&T. Surprising since the Note and Galaxy S2 have been such big hits lately. So much for that marketshare analysis...

http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/iphone-4s-outselling-all-android-phones-at-sprint-and-at-t-analyst



matttye
Apr 3, 2012, 04:54 PM
Doesn't surprise me. The iPhone is made by Apple, an American company. Most products do better on their home soil.

Android is far more popular than iOS here in Europe.

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 04:59 PM
Doesn't surprise me. The iPhone is made by Apple, an American company. Most products do better on their home soil.

Android is far more popular than iOS here in Europe.

Has zero to do with that. The Toyota Camry was the best selling car in America for over 10 years in a row, the Honda Accord and Civic were right behind it. Those are Japanese makers...

matttye
Apr 3, 2012, 05:04 PM
Has zero to do with that. The Toyota Camry was the best selling car in America for over 10 years in a row, the Honda Accord and Civic were right behind it. Those are Japanese makers...

So how do you explain android having a larger worldwide market share and a larger market share in other continents, but not america? Or at least on those two networks...

I could be wrong, but my guess is that Apple puts more into marketing and has more clout with the us carriers than elsewhere in the world.

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 05:12 PM
So how do you explain android having a larger worldwide market share and a larger market share in other continents, but not america? Or at least on those two networks...

I could be wrong, but my guess is that Apple puts more into marketing and has more clout with the us carriers than elsewhere in the world.

Because this is looking at individual phones, not Android phones as a whole. When you combine every Android phone on Sprint and AT&T together, I am sure they sell more than the iPhone as its only one device. The whole marketshare thing is ridiculous anyways. First, they are including all the junk phones from Boost and Cricket and Metro PCS in those figures. Crap Android phones that sell for $49 or free when you sign up. Plus, you don't have to get a credit check and you can go month by month. Apple does nothing like that. Second, you are comparing ONE model to hundreds. Thats like saying Honda is better because they sold more cars in total than Toyota sold of the Camry. When you go phone for phone, yes, the iPhone outsells any other individual Android phone.

lordofthereef
Apr 3, 2012, 05:18 PM
So how do you explain android having a larger worldwide market share and a larger market share in other continents, but not america? Or at least on those two networks...


There are easy explanations. Android phones on ATT are mostly crap. Up until recently, the OS's on those phones were about as locked down as iOS. For people that tout Android and open source, this is not a good thing. Look at the phones launching on Sprint (or lackthereof). Sprint is riding the "we just got the iPhone wave". They haven't had a flagship phone since the EVO 3D, which launched before the 4S and was clearly overshadowed by Sprint marketing the living hell out of their newly acquired iPhone.

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Because this is looking at individual phones, not Android phones as a whole. When you combine every Android phone on Sprint and AT&T together, I am sure they sell more than the iPhone as its only one device. The whole marketshare thing is ridiculous anyways. First, they are including all the junk phones from Boost and Cricket and Metro PCS in those figures. Crap Android phones that sell for $49 or free when you sign up. Plus, you don't have to get a credit check and you can go month by month. Apple does nothing like that. Second, you are comparing ONE model to hundreds. Thats like saying Honda is better because they sold more cars in total than Toyota sold of the Camry. When you go phone for phone, yes, the iPhone outsells any other individual Android phone.

You are stuck on the term better in this, and many of your posts, it seems. Having higher market share does not indicate whether you have a better product or not, just that more people use your product. Microsoft has dominated the computer OS market for years. They have a solid product now (referring to windows 7) but have had some flops, all of which were ALWAYS doing better than the competition. Was the product actually better? No... because, again, market share is not a measure of the uality of a product.

rjohnstone
Apr 3, 2012, 05:24 PM
At least at Sprint and AT&T. Surprising since the Note and Galaxy S2 have been such big hits lately. So much for that marketshare analysis...

http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/iphone-4s-outselling-all-android-phones-at-sprint-and-at-t-analyst
I've read the article and no where other than the title does it state that it outsells all handsets COMBINED.
The data chart doesn't even support this statement.
It shows it's the top seller for each carrier, but no actual sales numbers by device, you know the important part, are included.
Simple math dictates that if it were outselling all of them COMBINED, iOS would have a much larger market share than Android and Android's market share would have decreased over the last quarter instead of increased.

fruitycups
Apr 3, 2012, 05:24 PM
Wirelessly posted

No surprises. Just wait until iphone 5 comes out..

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 05:59 PM
iOS would have a much larger market share than Android and Android's market share would have decreased over the last quarter instead of increased.

Android's marketshare DID decrease last quarter when the 4s came out. It went from 58% down to 53% I believe.

Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 05:59 PM
There are barely any flagship Android Phones out.

Only Galaxy Nexus currently

Xperia S has yet to become know
HTC One Series has yet to be released
Motorola hasn't announced its next top tier phone yet

and of course

Samsung Galaxy S3 hasn't even come out yet.

rjohnstone
Apr 3, 2012, 06:06 PM
Android's marketshare DID decrease last quarter when the 4s came out. It went from 58% down to 53% I believe.
Really?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1353165
Last quarter was Jan-March. ;)
You're thinking of Oct-Dec.
iPhones always get a bump in numbers during the quarter they are released.
Been that way since day one.

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 06:30 PM
There are barely any flagship Android Phones out.

Only Galaxy Nexus currently

Xperia S has yet to become know
HTC One Series has yet to be released
Motorola hasn't announced its next top tier phone yet

and of course

Samsung Galaxy S3 hasn't even come out yet.

There is a new flagship Android phone every 3 months and the iPhone outsells every one of them LOL.

Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 06:48 PM
There is a new flagship Android phone every 3 months and the iPhone outsells every one of them LOL.

Of course different manufacturers produce flagship phones, its not a problem.

iPhone has been present since 2007, Android hasn't started growing until late 2010/early 2011. Even with the iPhone having a headstart, Android still leads in marketshare,over 50% as compared to 30% on iOS. Rudimentary statistics knowledge is all that is necessary to understand that having one device with a large marketshare is hard to sustain for long term success.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1353165

Android OS offers choice, iOS doesn't which is why I feel bad that everyone is forced to buy one edition of the iPhone if they want the latest one.

LSUtigers03
Apr 3, 2012, 07:12 PM
Of course different manufacturers produce flagship phones, its not a problem.

iPhone has been present since 2007, Android hasn't started growing until late 2010/early 2011. Even with the iPhone having a headstart, Android still leads in marketshare,over 50% as compared to 30% on iOS. Rudimentary statistics knowledge is all that is necessary to understand that having one device with a large marketshare is hard to sustain for long term success.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1353165

Android OS offers choice, iOS doesn't which is why I feel bad that everyone is forced to buy one edition of the iPhone if they want the latest one.

Logic has no place in this thread. All responses are supposed to be praising the iPhone.

Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 07:14 PM
Logic has no place in this thread. All responses are supposed to be praising the iPhone.

Oh my I am so sorry

/sarcasm



*Runs for my life :D

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 08:44 PM
Of course different manufacturers produce flagship phones, its not a problem.

iPhone has been present since 2007, Android hasn't started growing until late 2010/early 2011. Even with the iPhone having a headstart, Android still leads in marketshare,over 50% as compared to 30% on iOS. Rudimentary statistics knowledge is all that is necessary to understand that having one device with a large marketshare is hard to sustain for long term success.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1353165

Android OS offers choice, iOS doesn't which is why I feel bad that everyone is forced to buy one edition of the iPhone if they want the latest one.

Thats nice you feel bad for us poor, poor iPhone users. Yes, the many millions of us have no other choice in cell phones but Apple LOL

This is why Android has taken a lead over Apple in marketshare. This was at a local grocery store, I have been seeing them everywhere. The phones all ranged from $29-$79. No credit checks, no contracts and month to month. The phones were all crap of course but people with bad credit who can't afford an iPhone or a data plan jump all over these. I won't be surprised to see these start turning up at 99 cent stores soon. Google doesn't care that they are licensing their OS out to complete garbage like this, they only care about pumping out as many Android handsets as possible. At least Apple has some dignity and standards :rolleyes:

jeffe
Apr 3, 2012, 09:19 PM
good for apple. It will be interesting if we can see the sales figures after the releases this summer.

lilo777
Apr 3, 2012, 09:31 PM
t least Apple has some dignity and standards :rolleyes:

If Apple had any dignity thy would not be selling the oldest (and probably the crappiest) smart phone on the market - 3GS. Besides, Apple completely conceded high end smart phone market to Android: no 4G (Android has 4G), 512MB RAM (Android - 2x), 2 CPU cores max (Android - 2x), no HD screen (a few Android phones have them in AMOLED and LCD varieties), VGS from facing camera (Android - 5x), no memory cards etc. iPhone 4S is the most dated top of the line smart phone for all manufacturers.

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 09:33 PM
If Apple had any dignity thy would not be selling the oldest (and probably the crappiest) smart phone on the market - 3GS. Besides, Apple completely conceded high end smart phone market to Android: no 4G (Android has 4G), 512MB RAM (Android - 2x), 2 CPU cores max (Android - 2x), no HD screen (a few Android phones have them in AMOLED and LCD varieties), VGS from facing camera (Android - 5x), no memory cards etc. iPhone 4S is the most dated top of the line smart phone for all manufacturers.

Again I ask, why are you here? Looking at your most recent posts, all of them are either basing Apple, iOS or the iPhone. Be gone troll.

lilo777
Apr 3, 2012, 09:41 PM
Again I ask, why are you here? Looking at your most recent posts, all of them are either basing Apple, iOS or the iPhone. Be gone troll.

I am here for the same reason you are. In case you are confused - we are discussing iPhone sale numbers. And BTW, having a negative opinion is not trolling.

Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 10:01 PM
Again I ask, why are you here? Looking at your most recent posts, all of them are either basing Apple, iOS or the iPhone. Be gone troll.

The same can be said about you claiming that Android devices are terrible for their battery life and that rooting the device is the only way to use it.

In fact you even refer to Android as a "POS", If that's not trolling, then I don't know what is.


You DO realize that most of your solutions were to hack the phone, thus voiding the warranty right? Just the fact that you have to hack the phone to make it useable should send up a red flag from the start. I used to think that way too, no big deal, I can just root and ROM. How sad is it that the POS Android platform has to be exploited and a whole new OS created by hackers just to make it run right. Pathetic.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1352905&page=5

ap3604
Apr 3, 2012, 10:05 PM
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mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 10:06 PM
The same can be said about you claiming that Android devices are terrible for their battery life and that rooting the device is the only way to use it.

In fact you even refer to Android as a "POS", If that's not trolling, then I don't know what is.




http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1352905&page=5


This is an IPHONE forum kid. If you don't like people saying bad things about Android, why don't you leave and go to an ANDROID forum.

lilo777
Apr 3, 2012, 10:10 PM
This is an IPHONE forum kid. If you don't like people saying bad things about Android, why don't you leave and go to an ANDROID forum.

So, you think this forum is the place where people should say only good things about Apple products? Like a religion or something?

Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 10:12 PM
Guess you didn't read but this is an iPhone forum :rolleyes:

If he went on the Android forums and said that stuff it would be trolling... but on an iPhone forum that's perfectly fine to say the truth that Android owners don't want to hear.

Don't like people stating facts about how Android is inferior and lower class? feel free to leave anytime to the android forums :D

This is an IPHONE forum kid. If you don't like people saying bad things about Android, why don't you leave and go to an ANDROID forum.

I am on iOS 5.0.1 jailbroken and I'm not allowed to share my opinions?

That is odd....


Threatening someone over the internet.....A classic ineffective troll move

mbell1975
Apr 3, 2012, 10:17 PM
So, you think this forum is the place where people should say only good things about Apple products? Like a religion or something?

Not at all. I don't like the iPhones current shape and size and I don't like how its so hard to get something simple like a custom ringtone on it. I have mentioned that. However, when every one of your last 40 or posts have been bashing Apple, iOS and calling the iPhone the worst phone on the market. Thats pretty much trolling.

ap3604
Apr 3, 2012, 10:20 PM
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lilo777
Apr 3, 2012, 10:20 PM
I am on iOS 5.0.1 jailbroken and I'm not allowed to share my opinions?

That is odd....


I am on Android 4.0.4 and still believe that I am allowed to share my opinions ;)

Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 10:27 PM
Sure your entitled to your opinions... just like I am :)

You're the one trying to put people on the defensive for their opinions them trolls just because we are stating the facts that Android is inferior to the iPhone.

1- I was quoting to prove troll activity when he was falsely accusing another of being a troll.
2- Facts are only facts if they can be proven.
3- Statistics are a good barometer to compare devices, specifications of Android devices out in the market clearly are miles ahead of iOS.
Numerical proof that Android devices are NOT inferior to iPhone, if anything they are superior.

kdarling
Apr 3, 2012, 10:33 PM
This is why Android has taken a lead over Apple in marketshare. This was at a local grocery store, I have been seeing them everywhere. The phones all ranged from $29-$79. No credit checks, no contracts and month to month.

In other words, those Android phones allow almost anyone to have a smartphone. That's fantastic!

Moreover, even the cheapest ones have multitasking, videocam, and twice the cpu speed and RAM of the original iPhones. They also usually have 3G and HSDPA.

In other words, if you thought the first iPhone was a good deal, then these phones are often even better... all while giving billions of third world citizens a chance to own something usually reserved for wealthier countries.

PS. Although it'd be nice, it'd be surprising if all of the phones in that photo had Android, especially any less than ~$69. Sometimes a naive viewer can get confused and think that every feature phone with icons must be running Android. Often not.

ap3604
Apr 3, 2012, 10:33 PM
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Invincibilizer
Apr 3, 2012, 11:00 PM
Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better its all good. Specifications don't mean anything, if they did then an Android device would outsell the iPhone. This is what Android fans just never understand. The whole reason the iPhone outsells them all is the better user experience.

The only ones that would say Android is the better experience would be the tech nerds that drool over specs even though the whole experience still lags, doesn't get updates on time, has fragmentation, malware, etc

The disadvantages go on and on...

You could not be more wrong about that

iOS only has scrolling through different pages and even with Cydia tweaks ( some good animations here and there , iFile to mess with phone even more and thats it)

Very simplistic, not much adjustments, same interface all all devices. Android is a whole new beast with different pathways.
Specifications are the only arbitrary way to compare them since they involve concrete values rather than subjective opinions that range from user to user. I have a feeling you don't understand this concept.

M5RahuL
Apr 3, 2012, 11:25 PM
I have a feeling you don't understand this concept.

That pretty much sums it up! :)

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 01:29 AM
Because this is looking at individual phones, not Android phones as a whole. When you combine every Android phone on Sprint and AT&T together, I am sure they sell more than the iPhone as its only one device.

Your thread title is "iPhone 4S outselling all Android phones combined" but you then say this is looking at individual phones and you're sure that Android phones combined are selling more than the iPhone...so which is it? You're not making your point very clear.

phamduc.minhanh
Apr 4, 2012, 01:35 AM
I do see a lot of thumbs down here. This forum is full of Android die-hard fans or what?

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 01:44 AM
Thats nice you feel bad for us poor, poor iPhone users. Yes, the many millions of us have no other choice in cell phones but Apple LOL

This is why Android has taken a lead over Apple in marketshare. This was at a local grocery store, I have been seeing them everywhere. The phones all ranged from $29-$79. No credit checks, no contracts and month to month. The phones were all crap of course but people with bad credit who can't afford an iPhone or a data plan jump all over these. I won't be surprised to see these start turning up at 99 cent stores soon. Google doesn't care that they are licensing their OS out to complete garbage like this, they only care about pumping out as many Android handsets as possible. At least Apple has some dignity and standards :rolleyes:

So are you saying that companies who don't only cater for rich people don't have dignity and standards? Apple is about the only company in the smartphone market that doesn't sell cheap, low end phones.

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Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better its all good. Specifications don't mean anything, if they did then an Android device would outsell the iPhone. This is what Android fans just never understand. The whole reason the iPhone outsells them all is the better user experience.

The only ones that would say Android is the better experience would be the tech nerds that drool over specs even though the whole experience still lags, doesn't get updates on time, has fragmentation, malware, etc

The disadvantages go on and on...

I use Android because I'm a power user and like to customise my device. I get updates quickly by installing custom roms. My phone has never lagged, with default firmware or custom ones. Battery has to be charged every night, like every smartphone I've ever owned. Malware is easily avoided with a little common sense, just like on a PC.

The downsides for me are that the app store gets better apps and they tend to be of a higher quality on iOS. There are exceptions to the rule (kindle, drop box) but most are better on iOS. I also like some of the icloud features and wish they were available on Android.

Both platforms have their advantages and I don't know why either side has die hard fans. To get the most as a consumer, I think you need to use or try multiple platforms.

ap3604
Apr 4, 2012, 02:00 AM
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mbell1975
Apr 4, 2012, 02:14 AM
I do see a lot of thumbs down here. This forum is full of Android die-hard fans or what?

Android forums are boring and these trolls are highly insecure about their purchases, so they feel the need to come to an iPhone forum and try to justify it by bashing the iPhone and iOS.

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 02:32 AM
Android forums are boring and these trolls are highly insecure about their purchases, so they feel the need to come to an iPhone forum and try to justify it by bashing the iPhone and iOS.

Android forums actually seem to focus on the products at hand more than bashing the competition (at least the one I go to; not saying it's the same everywhere). I can't see a single iPhone thread in the 50 threads on the main page of the site I go to.

Also, if someone felt highly insecure about a purchase they'd just take it back and buy something else. It's a mobile device not a life choice. :D

You're putting the smartphone on a pedestal a bit here.

0m3ga
Apr 4, 2012, 02:46 AM
Doesn't surprise me. The iPhone is made by Apple, an American company. Most products do better on their home soil.

Android is far more popular than iOS here in Europe.

Bah, and you call yourself English! The stink of the Euro ends at the Chunnel! J/k :D

By the way, doesn't the iphone sell better in the UK than Android?

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 06:37 AM
Bah, and you call yourself English! The stink of the Euro ends at the Chunnel! J/k :D

By the way, doesn't the iphone sell better in the UK than Android?

Thank god :p we want s!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/31/android-uk-smartphone-growth

Even RIM had a higher market share than Apple in October of last year.

My understanding is that Android continues to grow here.

0m3ga
Apr 4, 2012, 11:19 AM
Thank god :p we want s!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/31/android-uk-smartphone-growth

Even RIM had a higher market share than Apple in October of last year.

My understanding is that Android continues to grow here.

Thanks for the link mate. I knew that Android had sold more last year, but thought I had read recently that the 4s had changed things, with the 4s outselling all other phones in the UK? I could very well be wrong. Memory isn't what it used to be.

P.s. Had a friend of mine that lived in Lincoln. I lived in a little village called Brampton, south of Peterburough.

lordofthereef
Apr 4, 2012, 11:25 AM
I don't like how its so hard to get something simple like a custom ringtone on it.

Errr... what? getting a custom ringtone on your iPhone is a difficult thing? :confused:

mbell1975
Apr 4, 2012, 11:30 AM
Errr... what? getting a custom ringtone on your iPhone is a difficult thing? :confused:

Maybe I am doing something wrong? I download it to my phone with an app, then I email it to myself, download the file, drag it to my desktop then drop it in iTunes and sync my phone. If there is a way to do it different I would love to know.

lordofthereef
Apr 4, 2012, 11:46 AM
Maybe I am doing something wrong? I download it to my phone with an app, then I email it to myself, download the file, drag it to my desktop then drop it in iTunes and sync my phone. If there is a way to do it different I would love to know.

You run OSX or Windows?

I guess that's irrelevant. Just search for a ringtone maker in google for your OS. It allows you to make a custom ringtone out of any music file and import it into iTunes in as little as 20 seconds. I've been using iRinger, which I believe is Windows only.

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 11:56 AM
Thanks for the link mate. I knew that Android had sold more last year, but thought I had read recently that the 4s had changed things, with the 4s outselling all other phones in the UK? I could very well be wrong. Memory isn't what it used to be.

P.s. Had a friend of mine that lived in Lincoln. I lived in a little village called Brampton, south of Peterburough.

Nah you're right. The 4S does outsell all other phones, just not all other phones collectively, which is what the OP was trying to imply.

iPhones have always been the top sellers when it comes to individual handsets.

Ahh cool :) I travel past Peterborough all the time. Not heard of Brampton but Lincolnshire is quite a large county so that doesn't surprise me! Small world :p

mbell1975
Apr 4, 2012, 12:04 PM
You run OSX or Windows?

I guess that's irrelevant. Just search for a ringtone maker in google for your OS. It allows you to make a custom ringtone out of any music file and import it into iTunes in as little as 20 seconds. I've been using iRinger, which I believe is Windows only.

I am on Mac and just searched. Seems they all charge money. Ill just do it this way as its free.

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Nah you're right. The 4S does outsell all other phones, just not all other phones collectively, which is what the OP was trying to imply.

iPhones have always been the top sellers when it comes to individual handsets.


Did you even read the article? :rolleyes:

Our March checks indicated the iPhone continues to extend its market share gains, Canaccord Genuity analyst Mike Walkley writes in a note to clients today. In fact, we believe iPhones are outselling all other smartphones combined at Sprint and AT&T and selling at roughly equal volume to all Android smartphones at Verizon.

lordofthereef
Apr 4, 2012, 12:06 PM
I am on Mac and just searched. Seems they all charge money. Ill just do it this way as its free.
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/free-ringtone-maker/id415873093?mt=12

Keep in mind I have never tried it... but it's worth a shot. I don;t keep any of my media on my air, otherwise I would probably give it a go. iTunes is horrible on a windows machine :(

Tarzanman
Apr 4, 2012, 12:11 PM
I steal mp3's from old ladies on the street.

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 12:12 PM
Did you even read the article? :rolleyes:

“Our March checks indicated the iPhone continues to extend its market share gains,” Canaccord Genuity analyst Mike Walkley writes in a note to clients today. “In fact, we believe iPhones are outselling all other smartphones combined at Sprint and AT&T and selling at roughly equal volume to all Android smartphones at Verizon.”

No, I didn't. I just read your later reply:

"Because this is looking at individual phones, not Android phones as a whole. When you combine every Android phone on Sprint and AT&T together, I am sure they sell more than the iPhone as its only one device."

You keep changing your mind. :p

I've now read the article and can see that the iPhone is selling more than all Android phones collectively on those networks. Apple deserves credit for that. :D

mbell1975
Apr 4, 2012, 12:13 PM
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/free-ringtone-maker/id415873093?mt=12

Keep in mind I have never tried it... but it's worth a shot. I don;t keep any of my media on my air, otherwise I would probably give it a go. iTunes is horrible on a windows machine :(

Thanks. Will give it a try

cynics
Apr 4, 2012, 12:34 PM
Mbell talks about android more then Android fans do.

It's getting to the point where I get excited to see a thread on macrumors that's not about android.

I'm a member of two forums at androidcentral. You can scroll back 5+ pages and not find a single mention of an iPhone. You can't even go 5 threads from the top and not find a thread about android.

I wish there was a thread specifically design for this garbage.

lordofthereef
Apr 4, 2012, 12:36 PM
Mbell talks about android more then Android fans do.

It's getting to the point where I get excited to see a thread on macrumors that's not about android.

I'm a member of two forums at androidcentral. You can scroll back 5+ pages and not find a single mention of an iPhone. You can't even go 5 threads from the top and not find a thread about android.

I wish there was a thread specifically design for this garbage.

Respectfully, how is a post like this just not fueling the fire and adding to the problem that you so wish didn't exist?

macMD
Apr 4, 2012, 12:43 PM
I find more than a few flaws in the article itself. First it only reflects Sprint & AT&T, no Verizon I wonder why. Second it shows only a couple of models for Android when in fact each of the two carriers has more than two models to choose from. Lastly Android OS activations in US outpace iOS activations so I guess Android is doing something right.

Now from a device perspective their is plenty of bias for either side and frankly a lot of iPhone buyers get it for the fashion statement or money factor it projects, which is just fine. Yes a large number of buyers also buy it because its what they want.

I have the iP4S for many reasons and the screen size is NOT one of them. Its too small and kiddy like for my taste but I am living with it for now. I don't see LTE as a big enough jump to get the next iPhone and hope the rumors of a bigger screen (3.8-4.0" screen) do happen.

Anyone can parse the numbers to reflect whatever they want them to be.

I own a lot of Apple hardware, and will continue to do so, it doesn't mean I think Android or WP7 is crap, there is plenty of room for improvement just like there is for iOS.

cynics
Apr 4, 2012, 12:52 PM
Respectfully, how is a post like this just not fueling the fire and adding to the problem that you so wish didn't exist?

Very true, good point. I guess I was venting more then anything. Apologies.

Invincibilizer
Apr 4, 2012, 03:40 PM
Android forums are boring and these trolls are highly insecure about their purchases, so they feel the need to come to an iPhone forum and try to justify it by bashing the iPhone and iOS.

You consistently bash Android all the time, your description seems to resemble you.

In fact you even started this thread stating that iPhone4S is selling more than Android phones...

If anything you are trolling because users at macrumors knows the benefits and disvantages of each OS, you should reconsider because creating threads that clearly target Android is trolling activity where as the sensible people here can have a long look at both OS and find faults with both.

ap3604
Apr 4, 2012, 03:54 PM
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Invincibilizer
Apr 4, 2012, 04:10 PM
If anything your the one trolling by trying to put people on the defensive for stating the truth.

Don't like people talking about how the iPhone is much better than Android on an IPHONE FORUM? Feel free to get lost over to the android forums...

Since when do I hate when people claim iPhone is better than Android?
I just input my opinions about how both work, it's you guys that are too extreme and I'm just pointing out conventional thoughts that you guys seem to be lacking.

It's highly inaccurate to compare iPhone4S sales to android devices when the majority of the flagship devices hasn't even come out yet.

It's like the week after an iPhone is released, 90% of all activations will be an iPhone but does that mean it will stay that way,nope. One has to expect the market to reach levels of equilibrium to balance out. It is similar here where there is no point in comparing sales level since most devices haven't even been released yet while the iPhone was released last year.

By the way I already have accounts on Macrumors and Android Central

LSUtigers03
Apr 4, 2012, 04:16 PM
Invincibilizer

You can't win an argument with irrational people. Just laugh and move on.

macsrcool1234
Apr 4, 2012, 04:33 PM
I like the iPhone as much as anybody but lets be realistic here...

This doesn't include the LARGEST Android carrier. This article means nothing.

mark28
Apr 4, 2012, 04:38 PM
At least at Sprint and AT&T. Surprising since the Note and Galaxy S2 have been such big hits lately. So much for that marketshare analysis...

http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/iphone-4s-outselling-all-android-phones-at-sprint-and-at-t-analyst

USA isn't even the biggest market. Yet you base your conclusion on USA sales?

Old Smuggler
Apr 4, 2012, 04:50 PM
Interesting correlation

hchavarria
Apr 4, 2012, 04:52 PM
I currently own a 4s and I also like Android the problem for me is the lack of consistency that draws me to iOS. For example, before the 4S I had an Evo 3D so if I liked the 3D camera I couldn't move to the next HTC device because it's not 3D capable. What i like about apple is that you can expect everything from a prior version product to be there just maybe improved.

lordofthereef
Apr 4, 2012, 04:56 PM
before the 4S I had an Evo 3D so if I liked the 3D camera I couldn't move to the next HTC device because it's not 3D capable.

There are two things I see wrong with this statement. 1) If you liked the 3D camera, you couldn't get that with the iPhone that you moved to after the fact either. 2) There hasn't be a true successor to the EVO 3D yet. Will it have a 3D camera? Beats me, but just because HTC has launched another phone since the EVO 3D, it doesn't mean it's the successor. It's like buying one make and model car, say Nissan Sentra, and then replacing it with another model (same make), Say Nissan Rogue, and being disappointed that certain features are missing or not the same.

Certinfy
Apr 4, 2012, 06:03 PM
Doesn't surprise me. The iPhone is made by Apple, an American company. Most products do better on their home soil.

Android is far more popular than iOS here in Europe.
It's not only that, it's the price difference here.

Can't talk for all European countries but here in the UK and some other countries the price difference on contract between lets say a Galaxy Nexus/Galaxy SII/Xperia S is massively cheaper than an iPhone 4S.

matttye
Apr 4, 2012, 06:27 PM
It's not only that, it's the price difference here.

Can't talk for all European countries but here in the UK and some other countries the price difference on contract between lets say a Galaxy Nexus/Galaxy SII/Xperia S is massively cheaper than an iPhone 4S.

Yeah definitely. My galaxy S2 cost nothing up front and I get 600 minutes, unlimited texts and 500MB internet for 32 per month. A comparable tariff on the same network for the iPhone, with a free phone, would be 46 per month.

Although O2's latest "On & On" tariffs are very good. 60 for an iPhone, 36 per month and you get unlimited minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB internet. Best value I've ever seen on O2.

Bchagey
Apr 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
Wirelessly posted

Wirelessly posted

No surprises. Just wait until iphone 5 comes out..

Ah I can't wait