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KittyKatta
Apr 16, 2012, 11:32 PM
Did anyone buy Mission Impossible 1, 2, or 3 on iTunes? They are currently on sale for $9.99/ea which is the first I've seen movies get discounted. So I'm curious of everyone's feeling on it. Is this going to be a common trend or a rare promotion?

For me, this was my first digital movie purchase and I bought MI3 and it was a fantastic experience. Click to buy, download to iTunes, download digital extras and stream to Apple TV. If they can manage to get more quality HD movies to the $10 mark or lower then I'd gladly ditch physical media for digital. :D



BTW. While we're talking movies, if you buy an SD version, can you pay the difference later for the HD copy? Some titles don't have HD versions yet andi don't want to wait.



benh911f
Apr 17, 2012, 01:07 AM
They definitely do need to lower the prices of the movies available on iTunes to get more people to switch. The sale of the Mission: Impossibles is a fairly decent price, but I picked up the first three in a set for $19.99 on Blu-Ray when the fourth one was being released in theaters, and I think the set is still that price. So not only are you getting the best quality, you're getting a physical copy of the film you can rip to your computer with the proper drive. So while they charge $10 a pop for a digital only copy that has no manufacturing, shipping and other fees, you can get a physical copy for less than $7, make your own digital copy, and have the physical version for safekeeping and if you want the best quality possible. I can't see digital sales taking off until they fix that massive discrepensy.
As far as your question goes, unfortunately that's not possible.

Mad Mac Maniac
Apr 17, 2012, 12:45 PM
I completely agree with this. I haven't bought anything on iTunes, because I can't rationalize paying more for something that I can ONLY play on certain devices, can't let friends borrow, can't ever resell, etc... But I want to go digital.

I agree that there should be more sales on digital copies, and I think that the SD/HD differentiations should go away completely. Just buy the movie and you can choose if you want to download it in SD/720/1080 depending on your needs. The artificial limitation is just dumb.

Then the movie prices should be more like $15 for new releases and $10 for movies that have been out a while. Maybe even have a "Sale" section of movies for $5 that would rotate every week. Oh yeah, and sequels should be able to be bundled together for cheaper.

Edit: I might actually purchase one (or some) of these MI's for $10, to get me started on iTunes purchases. Haha, so thanks for the heads up!

PlaceofDis
Apr 17, 2012, 12:51 PM
i too would love to switch only over to digital, but it can be much to frustrating to manage all the files since they take up so much space, not to mention the cost difference seems to make it more expensive. I've mainly switched to iTunes for TV seasons that i would otherwise buy on DVD but movies just isn't practical yet.

Mad Mac Maniac
Apr 17, 2012, 01:05 PM
i too would love to switch only over to digital, but it can be much to frustrating to manage all the files since they take up so much space, not to mention the cost difference seems to make it more expensive. I've mainly switched to iTunes for TV seasons that i would otherwise buy on DVD but movies just isn't practical yet.

Why are TV seasons more practical? Do they cost less than their physical counterparts?

FamiliaPhoto
Apr 17, 2012, 01:20 PM
I've moved my entire DVD and TV Season to digital. Things that used to collect dust on my bookshelf now get watched since going digital.

There is a lot of data to manage but I moved to a Drobo which takes care of backup for me and makes expansion a breeze...just wonderful.

Panch0
Apr 17, 2012, 01:26 PM
iTunes as a set of sale movies every week - usually for $4.99 but I think that is the SD version.

Some studios are now allowing Movies to be streamed, just like TV shows. This cuts way down on the local storage requirement.

I have purchased maybe 20 movies through iTunes since I got my first AppleTV, but It is pretty rare that I do so now. It has to be a really good movie that happens to be on sale at this point. For anything else, I just rent. You can usually rent at least 3 times for the purchase price, and for me that's a better deal as I don't watch many movies over and over again.

Digital is different. With instant delivery from the cloud, ownership is less important. It's not like I have to go down the block to pick up a disc I want to watch anymore.

PlaceofDis
Apr 17, 2012, 01:40 PM
Why are TV seasons more practical? Do they cost less than their physical counterparts?

two reasons: they're often the same price, not higher, and with the season pass you get to download episodes as they are aired so its convenient at least to not have to wait until the season is over to get the set.

KettyKrueger
Apr 17, 2012, 01:46 PM
I too am switching to digital.

I've held firmly onto physical media over digital for so long, wanting the 'best experience'.

But I'm fed up of a) having shelves upon shelves occupied with boxes b) having to wait a lifetime for the friggin' movie to start (adverts, menus, blah blah) and c) having to circumvent copy protection to make them portable.

Yes, digital is sub blu-ray quality but I'm going for convenience now!

MrXiro
Apr 17, 2012, 02:05 PM
Did anyone buy Mission Impossible 1, 2, or 3 on iTunes? They are currently on sale for $9.99/ea which is the first I've seen movies get discounted. So I'm curious of everyone's feeling on it. Is this going to be a common trend or a rare promotion?

For me, this was my first digital movie purchase and I bought MI3 and it was a fantastic experience. Click to buy, download to iTunes, download digital extras and stream to Apple TV. If they can manage to get more quality HD movies to the $10 mark or lower then I'd gladly ditch physical media for digital. :D



BTW. While we're talking movies, if you buy an SD version, can you pay the difference later for the HD copy? Some titles don't have HD versions yet andi don't want to wait.

Working in Hollywood I've come to notice that most studios would rather stifle technology than discount the latest trends... Rather than look for new ways to make money on the same product they would rather just bury it. Like how they are with selling/renting movies. If the studios weren't driven by greed over intelligence they would have created a rental system much like Netflix or iTunes ages ago in their own ecosystem. But they chose to stick to the old ways relying on pushing their more "controlled" and understood technologies than going head on into tomorrow. Devices like the ps3 should have been the forefront of this movement years ago but it is to this day behind on the latest features because of their own bureaucratic issues.

Need an example? Crackle (a Sony owned streaming service) to THIS DAY does not have a dedicated hi def app on the PS3... You can only watch it through the web browser and it is a pixelated mess and a pain to navigate through. A decent app is on every other machine. Why are you not putting it on your own...

Not to mention Sony purchased crackle before google ever bought YouTube. Why it never surpassed any of it's peers is insane to me.

striker33
Apr 17, 2012, 02:58 PM
The longer the big wigs at the movie companies insist on high digital pricing, more and more people will be driven to piracy.

DiamondMac
Apr 17, 2012, 04:00 PM
I have bought so many digital copies of movies & tv shows recently that it is embarrassing to think of just how much I have spent

But in the last week or so I have started reigning in and will continue as such until prices drop.

Some movies being anywhere close to $18 is a total joke.

big samm
Apr 17, 2012, 09:43 PM
I went digital on tv shows, but will stick with bluray's for movies.

AtomicEdge
Apr 18, 2012, 05:01 AM
I'm finally nearing the end of ripping all my DVD's (oh god the sweet sweet beautiful end) and now have 200ish movies and about 80 series of TV shows and I love being digital!

I am buying the odd thing from iTunes as I want it, but I have to limit myself as it is pretty expensive. I don't mind paying near Blu-Ray price for a new film in HD, but the biggest issue is that the price drops on physical much much quicker than digital because stores need the space for new stuff, where as digital just sits there on a server.

Before Netflix launched in the UK I wanted to work my way through 24. Most seasons are like £25 and there are eight of them (I think). So that's a £200 outlay for the whole thing. Now when those DVD box sets launched they were £40 each, so at a glance (and from an executive somewheres perspective) that's a deal. But the reality is that my local HMV DVD store had the complete collection box set on their shelves for £60. The whole thing.

I couldn't bring myself to pay £140 over the odds just for digital, but I have promised myself I won't buy any more DVD's, just Blu-Rays for my absolute fave films. Thank god Netflix launched while I was deliberating, offering up all of the series for like 5.99 a month!!

BornAgainMac
Apr 18, 2012, 06:30 AM
I stopped purchasing DVDs a few years ago and only use iTunes and now only HD unless it is something really good like the Dark Knight. My older ripped DVDs actually have much worst quality than the SD stuff on iTunes.

KittyKatta
Apr 18, 2012, 09:06 AM
i too would love to switch only over to digital, but it can be much to frustrating to manage all the files since they take up so much space, not to mention the cost difference seems to make it more expensive. I've mainly switched to iTunes for TV seasons that i would otherwise buy on DVD but movies just isn't practical yet.

I'll use Arrested Development as an example of my problem with buying TV on iTunes.

iTunes - $80 for 3 seasons and no extra features. No resale. No sharing. Limited device compatibility.
DVD - $45 for 3 seasons with all available extras and commentaries
Netflix - $7/mo includes all episodes of AD and much much more
Hulu - $0 Streaming

This also goes for many shows like 30 Rock, Simpsons, The Office, etc where you can buy the DVD season box sets with a bunch of extras for $15 a season, stream them online for cheap, or pay $2.99/ep $30-50/season for a DRM locked iTunes copy.

People out here are the ones who understand the convenience of pulling up a show from the Apple TV, but it's even priced out of our hands so how are normal people ever going to accept buying digital copies at these prices. What they really need to do is put out seasons of old shows for $10. I may never watch Lost again, but I was enough of a fan at the time that I'd gladly buy the entire show anyway. Not cashing in on stuff like that to lure people into digital purchasing seems like a missed opportunity.

urkel
Apr 18, 2012, 01:49 PM
The longer the big wigs at the movie companies insist on high digital pricing, more and more people will be driven to piracy.
Its sad that so many kids today are growing up with piracy being the norm, but I cant say I blame them for it. The industry has made being "legal" extremely inconvenient.

$20 iTunes HD Movie
- Can only play on your account
- Cant lend to friends
- No possible resale
- No/Limited special features

$12 BluRay Movie
- Can play on any BD player
- Can be loaned to friends
- Will resale easily
- SD Version included for mobile devices
- Full extras and special features

$0 Torrent HD Movie
- Can be played/shared with any computer
- Can be re-encoded to any device

Obviously people on this forum can appreciate the convenience of a digital library but being legal is an inconvenience over being a pirate. So we have the dilemma of figuring out if its worth it for a convenient, but crippled, iTunes HD movie or if we should just get a cheaper BluRay and consider ripping the movie for the AppleTV convenience. And we're adults! Do you think a teen is going to have that moral dilemma or will they just grab a torrent?

Doing the right thing shouldnt be such a huge inconvenience.

Anti-Lucifer
Apr 18, 2012, 01:53 PM
Let's all put this in good perspective:

If you rip movies yourself, you must factor the following:

1) Time it takes to rip a movie title.
2) Storage space required per movie title
3) How to stream this (either using iTunes home sharing or DLNA/NAS type setup)
4) How to share this with other people not in the same house
5) iOS device support (from remote locations)

Now the truth is: You will most likely 95% of the time, watch the same movie twice or three times AT MOST in one year. That's really based on the movie you really like, etc.

You can rip your entire DVD collection with over 300 movies and get huge TB HDD space to store it all. But then you have to consider that you have to stream it somehow and also what do you do when you are not home and want to watch a movie? Sure you can copy it onto your iOS device, etc.

I agree the pricing on the digital content stuff should be cheaper than physical media but these movie studios are crooks. If iTunes offers more "BUY" products, I'd consider buying them since you can have the movie online and watch anytime from anywhere on any iOS device.

Rather than having to maintain a library collection (what if your hdd fails and it will eventually), do you really want to make a backup of your 2TB+ collection? It just makes more sense if you can pay a one time price and have apple deal with the backend of hosting/streaming that movie for you.

Most of the movies I have collected for the past 10 years I rarely even watch again. It's just like music, you get bored of the same song and you rarely bother to play it again. That's my own personal perspective and I know some people eat the same foods daily for 10 years and not even get bothered by that.

On a different subject: I feel software should be the same way. Pay a subscription fee and get software to use. Sort of like a rental system. I highly suggest games be these same way: pay a subscription and get the games to play rather than paying $60 for a game that is outdated in a year. If companies are smart, they would charge a netflix like monthly rental and offer this payment plan since they will be collecting money regardless if you play a game or not.

KittyKatta
Apr 18, 2012, 05:33 PM
I agree the pricing on the digital content stuff should be cheaper than physical media but these movie studios are crooks. If iTunes offers more "BUY" products, I'd consider buying them since you can have the movie online and watch anytime from anywhere on any iOS device.
I think I figured it out and the solution Id like to see almost already exists. ;)

1) Buy Physical BluRay that comes with Digital SD Copy
2) Go to download digital SD copy like normal by authenticating through iTunes
3) When you authenticate with iTunes you get a "Upgrade to HD for $5" option.

This works for all sides. Studios double dip by chargingus twice for the same movie. Apple sells more AppleTVs because there a benefit to more customers who want a solution to stream their HD movies to their tv. Consumers get both the digital and physical copies at affordable prices without resorting to piracy. Win-Win-Win. :D

sphinx99
Apr 18, 2012, 10:06 PM
I agree with the OP. I think it's important to understand that iTunes does not sell movies. They simply sell access to it. So on top of paying more for something you can do less with, you don't even own the copy and Apple could cite your account for a TOS violation and you'd lose all your content.

IMO, digital videos should be half the cost of a discounted Blu-Ray disc, since I am getting quite a bit less for my money.

davwin
Apr 19, 2012, 09:46 AM
The US and UK iTunes stores have had a few different titles on sale in HD recently and it's been nice for a change. I would agree that a physical copy is almost always a better deal especially if it's at a lower price because it will likely include more content. This is assuming you don't mind ripping it yourself and the storage requirements aren't a problem.

However, when a 1080 digital version is on sale for a lower price and still includes all of the special features then I think that's a pretty good trade off for the convenience.

As an example: Kill Bill 1 & 2 were on sale for £4.99 while the BD's are £7 each. This is a title with no special features so the only difference is the price and (to some degree) the compression used on the transfer. Both are the same cut of the movie and both are 1080p. The digital version has the benefit of using a smaller amount of storage space, it includes an SD version of the film and it has no region restrictions. The BD version has the benefit of better compression/bitrate, uncompressed audio and no requirement for storage space on your HDD. In this case - and its just one example - the digital copy is cheaper and has different benefits that might be a better fit for some people.

I hope they continue discount 1080 HD movies because, depending on the title even I would prefer a cheaper option to buying/ripping the BD.

KittyKatta
Apr 19, 2012, 11:41 AM
However, when a 1080 digital version is on sale for a lower price and still includes all of the special features then I think that's a pretty good trade off for the convenience
Maybe UK iTunes get more sales but the reason I even made the thread was because a $10 quality movie is extremely rare.

Anyway, Despite how silly it is to call DRMd files a "convenience", I totally agree and wouldn't mind paying a reasonable price for iTunes movies. but the problem for me is that even if the pricing was closer then the "value" is still so far apart.

For example, I was going to buy a $15 kids movie on iTunes because it had iTunes Extras but when I compared it to the $12 DVD then I saw the iTunes version was missing a lot of special features as well as the "Bonus Sing along DVD" content. Digital should mean we get more access but for some reason we're getting much less.

iphone1105
Apr 19, 2012, 12:49 PM
I have an all digital collection now, took me many hours to rip all my dvd's and blu rays, but it is totally worth it. I can stream this stuff from anywhere with great apps like Plex or AirVideo. Plus if need be I still have the physical discs for my dedicated stand alone players.

IMO digital copies is the way to go and the future, but not at it's current prices. Not when I can go to Target or Best Buy picks up 5 movies for $20 and then rip them all to my HD as well.

bruinsrme
Apr 19, 2012, 01:00 PM
I went digital on tv shows, but will stick with bluray's for movies.

yep, got MI-ghost protocol bluray, dvd and digital for $20.

rip the DVD for the i devices and the blurry for the big screens.

moofffoo
May 14, 2012, 07:49 PM
Hi, I noticed the other day on the news that apple was boasting about their achievement at attaining $100 billion cash at the bank, and well done.

As a long time loyal customer of Apple products, I find it hard to digest that no reward or gratitude is offered back.

I see that despite the enormous profits Apple have achieved in recent years, there is still no end in sight to capitalizing on the market.

I feel that a prudent step forward to securing the consumers loyalty is not to display the evident extortion that exists.

Let me explain. $100b cash and we still have to pay nearly $30.00AU to own a digital copy of a movie. Far more costly than at a store ($19.99), which provides a disc and a cover and has overheads on lease etc.

So, as I do truly believe that this email will never be acknowledged and that all Iím doing here is pacifying the need for self-gratification to the fact that at least I said something.
I do however hope that one opinion can at least generate some awareness at a corporate level, to see that people have a greater awareness today of capitalizing and greed, this awareness has produced a modern idiom now known as milking, and more so we are aware that we are being milked.

I know what youíre thinking, what of the stocks we have shareholders that want to see profits.
Sure, I agree. But have we considered volume turnover. How many people don't buy the product because of the price?
I believe that at $30 there are 10 buyers and at $15 there are a thousand.

Could be wrong, but like an oxymoron, I could be right. Think about it and do something about it.

WebHead
May 14, 2012, 10:27 PM
$100b cash and we still have to pay nearly $30.00AU to own a digital copy of a movie. Far more costly than at a store ($19.99), which provides a disc and a cover and has overheads on lease etc.

I have no doubt Apple makes a profit on the iTunes Store, even though it likes to make out it's a loss leader.

But while Apple has some influence on the pricing, I think most of the blame lies with the studios. They are testing the market to see if people will pay the same for non-physical media as they will for physical media (even though the overheads are much, much lower). Magazine publishers are guilty of this also.

DRM and price are the two factors stopping me buying from iTunes.

hipnetic
May 15, 2012, 06:02 AM
Let me explain. $100b cash and we still have to pay nearly $30.00AU to own a digital copy of a movie. Far more costly than at a store ($19.99), which provides a disc and a cover and has overheads on lease etc.Apple makes their money on hardware, not iTunes sales. The pricing is set by the movie studios. If you're going to email a corporation to complain about movie pricing, you need to send it to the movie studios and TV networks, not Apple. I suspect that Apple is constantly working to leverage the size of their user base to convince the studios to set better pricing and get rid of DRM, so if we ever see any movement there, it could very well be that Apple will deserve the credit for it.

Personally, moreso than movie sale prices, I'd like to see better rental prices and much more generous rental windows. I can rent from Redbox for $2, but a new release on iTunes costs $5. And the rental window for a movie is 24 hours (or did it change to 48?). I'd like to see a week-long rental period. Or, maybe get rid of rentals, and set prices to buy at $6. I suspect that most people don't re-watch most of the movies they own more than once a year anyway. As I said above, though, these things are not within the control of Apple, but hopefully they're pushing the studios in this direction.

machpost
May 15, 2012, 06:55 AM
How about more free content, as well? The only free movie I know of on iTunes is the excellent documentary Truth In 24, and if there's more out there, I don't know how to easily find it.

Mad Mac Maniac
May 15, 2012, 08:48 AM
Personally, moreso than movie sale prices, I'd like to see better rental prices and much more generous rental windows. I can rent from Redbox for $2, but a new release on iTunes costs $5. And the rental window for a movie is 24 hours (or did it change to 48?). I'd like to see a week-long rental period. Or, maybe get rid of rentals, and set prices to buy at $6. I suspect that most people don't re-watch most of the movies they own more than once a year anyway. As I said above, though, these things are not within the control of Apple, but hopefully they're pushing the studios in this direction.

I believe the way rentals work is you have 1 month to start watching it, once you begin watching it you then have 24 hours of umlimited watching. I think that's plenty of time for a rental.

although I do wish there would be a reduction in rental price to $2-$3. I don't think movie purchase would ever go as low as $6 (for standard pricing). I'd be happy with price point starting at $10 and then start to drop from there depending on age and popularity with a floor price of $5. Or maybe leave prices at $10, but have a section of "weekly sales" which will have movies priced at $5.

I don't remember if this is the thread I mentioned this idea but I'd like to see an idea, similar to the "complete my album" feature in iTunes, where you can rent-to-own movies. Meaning if a movie costs $3 to rent and $10 to buy and I have rented it twice, it would only cost $4 more for me to purchase it. This would certainly push the rental format.

I would also like to be able to purchase movie sets at a reduced rate. For example, if each Star Wars movie cost $10, you could buy either trilogy for $24 or buy both trilogies for $42. something like that.

Michael CM1
May 18, 2012, 10:37 PM
I too am switching to digital.

I've held firmly onto physical media over digital for so long, wanting the 'best experience'.

But I'm fed up of a) having shelves upon shelves occupied with boxes b) having to wait a lifetime for the friggin' movie to start (adverts, menus, blah blah) and c) having to circumvent copy protection to make them portable.

Yes, digital is sub blu-ray quality but I'm going for convenience now!

I agree with you on the frustration on A, B and C. But I still can't buy just anything from iTunes because the selection of cheap stuff just isn't there. I was browsing Amazon last night and saw movie after movie on BD for $10.

Right now I just rip stuff I own on DVD or borrow the DVD version from Netflix if I own the BD. I need to figure out how to go from BD to digital because I sure as hell do get frustrated with the 18 hours of junk before the actual movie. I could even tolerate it the first time I watch something. But in five years why I am still sitting through outdated ads? BD Live does at least present some new trailers, but dammit I just don't care about trailers!

radiogoober
May 18, 2012, 11:02 PM
I need to figure out how to go from BD to digital because I sure as hell do get frustrated with the 18 hours of junk before the actual movie. I could even tolerate it the first time I watch something. But in five years why I am still sitting through outdated ads? BD Live does at least present some new trailers, but dammit I just don't care about trailers!

VERY SIMPLE to get BluRay to Mac:

1. Buy USB BluRay reader for Mac: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Portable-Blu-ray-Playback-CP40NG10/dp/B00632RJJY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1337399951&sr=8-2
2. Download MakeMKV ( http://www.makemkv.com/download/ - shareware - free for 30 days)
3. Download the latest nightly build of Handbrake (here: https://build.handbrake.fr/ )

Steps:

1. Insert BluRay into drive
2. Load MakeMKV, rip, this will produce MovieName.mkv
3. Load MovieName.mkv into HandBrake, rip for AppleTV2 setting.

Voila!

(Use the latest nightly build of Handbrake because it supports ripping BluRay subtitles, which, believe it or not, is an amazing accomplishment.)

I use that workflow and ripped over a hundred DVDs and about 25 BluRays. I tossed all the old boxes and put them all into one big multi-disc binder, so they take up virtually no room now (just in case my harddrives fail and I lose all the movie rips.)

Once you rip your entire movie library, feel free to stop by RedBox and start renting all their blurays and ripping all the new movies too. :) $1.50/bluray.

Michael CM1
May 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
VERY SIMPLE to get BluRay to Mac:

1. Buy USB BluRay reader for Mac: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Portable-Blu-ray-Playback-CP40NG10/dp/B00632RJJY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1337399951&sr=8-2
2. Download MakeMKV ( http://www.makemkv.com/download/ - shareware - free for 30 days)
3. Download the latest nightly build of Handbrake (here: https://build.handbrake.fr/ )

Steps:

1. Insert BluRay into drive
2. Load MakeMKV, rip, this will produce MovieName.mkv
3. Load MovieName.mkv into HandBrake, rip for AppleTV2 setting.

Voila!

(Use the latest nightly build of Handbrake because it supports ripping BluRay subtitles, which, believe it or not, is an amazing accomplishment.)

I use that workflow and ripped over a hundred DVDs and about 25 BluRays. I tossed all the old boxes and put them all into one big multi-disc binder, so they take up virtually no room now (just in case my harddrives fail and I lose all the movie rips.)

Once you rip your entire movie library, feel free to stop by RedBox and start renting all their blurays and ripping all the new movies too. :) $1.50/bluray.

Thanks for the info. I've been wary about which BD drive to get because I remember how many crappy DVD drives I got about a decade ago. I have one on my wish list that is about $60. Been using HandBrake forever, so that causes no issues.

Once I get my job situation cleared up I'll definitely look into this. I love having my BDs for use on my Samsung LED TV, but as I said I get tired of the damn 8 hours it takes to get to the movie.

radiogoober
May 18, 2012, 11:39 PM
I hear you on being weary of buying an external bluray drive. The first one I bought was a ~$40 one, and it sucked. It was slow (2x) and couldn't read even slightly blemished discs. I've had really good luck with the LG one I linked, it is really fast and has only found one damaged disc so far that it just couldn't read.

I ripped all mine for the same reasons you are interested in doing so. I hated using my BluRay player because it was just so torturous. It'd take forever to turn on, load the dang disc, and then make me sit through a bunch of previews that I have absolutely no interest in, then stupid warnings, etc. Argh!

MiamiBourne
May 20, 2012, 08:50 PM
I've contemplated buying iTunes HD movies for the convinience since I'm all in in Apple Devices, iPhone, iPad, AppleTV and Macbook Pro.

I have also thought of buying a BD drive and HandBrake...I'm eyeing this one and it's on sale for $99 from $129.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SE-506AB-TSBD-External-Blu-ray/dp/B006B7R9QE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT2_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=S45OGP6QS1J2&coliid=IR67I692NLVYL

Any opinions on this one?

GarrettL1979
May 21, 2012, 09:31 AM
I've contemplated buying iTunes HD movies for the convinience since I'm all in in Apple Devices, iPhone, iPad, AppleTV and Macbook Pro.

I have also thought of buying a BD drive and HandBrake...I'm eyeing this one and it's on sale for $99 from $129.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SE-506AB-TSBD-External-Blu-ray/dp/B006B7R9QE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT2_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=S45OGP6QS1J2&coliid=IR67I692NLVYL

Any opinions on this one?

I had some issues with the drive opening and closing, so I returned that one. I've had better luck with this one:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-ReWriter-BP40NS20-External-Portable/dp/B0077QTOA2/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337610597&sr=1-9

spacepower7
May 21, 2012, 03:45 PM
Back to the pricing issue

The West Wing

iTunes - $350 - all 7 seasons @ $50 each for 1080p, not sure but they used to sell the SD version for $280, each season for $40

Amazon - retail $300 for DVD complete box set, but currently on sale for less than $100. This option means ripping 40 DVDs to watch on Apple devices.

Is my time worth the extra $180, yes but I can't justify paying that much more for essentially the same thing. Until the studios figure this obvious stuff out, many people will choose option 3

Torrent - $0

It seems like the studios don't want to sell digital, just physical media, then they point to piracy and lobby the government to clamp down on the internet. If the studios had their way, they would only allow streaming and from only their own website. They would prefer we have monthly memberships at each individual studio website @ $20 a month.

TrackZ
May 22, 2012, 08:22 AM
It's worth something though that iTunes has the hd copy. Many shows I plan to buy and watch have the same choice - iTunes 1080p or DVD. The hd copy is worth paying a premium for, just ideally less of a premium.

With new shows too iTunes has them right away vs waiting months or longer for disc releases. It's so nice to just buy and watch. The amount of time it takes to process tv series off disc into iTunes is considerable.

mixro8
May 22, 2012, 10:43 AM
Up until last week, I was using pirated copies of Adobe software (for personal use), because its products are priced insanely high. For instance:

Photoshop: $700 + Sales Tax
Acrobat: $450 + Sales Tax

No way am I paying that kind of money. Adobe recently launched Creative Cloud that costs $50/month + Tax which includes almost ALL its products and I took the plunge.

Adobe has little competition, yet its (new) strategy is to appeal to a broader audience (including pirates) by cutting prices. $50/month is still expensive, but it's much more affordable, considering it includes updates versus purchasing a perpetual license for a particular version of software that becomes obsolete in two years (planned obsolescence).

I am keen on purchasing an Apple TV and HD movies via iTunes, but the limitations and pricing is prohibitive versus pirating content.

I don't usually watch movies more than once, but I'd like to keep them (prefer buying vs. renting) for when I have family and friends over.

If the movie studios can adopt the same mentality as Adobe, then sure enough, pirates will convert to paying customers.

Lower prices.
No unskippable anti-piracy nag screens.
I don't even understand this one. Pirate copies don't contain these (obviously they're removed), so why display these to paying customers?


It shouldn't have to take mammoths like Apple to push movie studios and record labels out of their comfort zones and outdated business models.
Moron corporate executives -- doesn't matter what industry or what they're selling, they're always in it for the money... but that's a whole 'nother story.

MiamiBourne
May 22, 2012, 12:41 PM
I had some issues with the drive opening and closing, so I returned that one. I've had better luck with this one:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-ReWriter-BP40NS20-External-Portable/dp/B0077QTOA2/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337610597&sr=1-9

Thanks for the response. I'm getting the drive tomorrow let you guys know how my experience goes.

If the prices on iTunes would be better I would consider buying iTunes HD...or at least if they would have weekly sales like Best Buy does for their BD's.

CylonGlitch
May 22, 2012, 12:57 PM
I'm all for lowering the prices of the movies. I wish they were out on iTunes as follows (note studio issue, not Apple's).

In theater Release $29.99
New Release $19.99
6 Month Old Release $14.99
1 Year Old Release $9.99
2 Year+ Old Release $4.99

Maybe advance the schedule a little, 3 month, 6 month, 1 year. I'd be all over that type of pricing structure. I heard they are considering the In theater release now; but want to charge $80ish. They just don't get it, do they?

Tinmania
May 22, 2012, 01:46 PM
Personally, moreso than movie sale prices, I'd like to see better rental prices and much more generous rental windows. I can rent from Redbox for $2, but a new release on iTunes costs $5. And the rental window for a movie is 24 hours (or did it change to 48?). I'd like to see a week-long rental period. Or, maybe get rid of rentals, and set prices to buy at $6. I suspect that most people don't re-watch most of the movies they own more than once a year anyway. As I said above, though, these things are not within the control of Apple, but hopefully they're pushing the studios in this direction.
I agree. Without lower rentals in itunes I simply don't even look to it for movies at all. I rarely watch a movie more than once so most of the time I just use Redbox. Beyond it being just plain cheaper as the norm, it offers discounts often. As for me, for a lot of movies I don't care if it is SD and this makes the price difference incredibly hard for me to accept. Just yesterday I rented Rampart for $0.76 from Redbox with tax. Itunes would have cost $4.33 with tax--more than FIVE TIMES more expensive. Crazy.

Since I am not looking in iTunes anyway, there is little chance for me to buy a movie there--and I do buy a few here and there.




Michael