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student_trap
Jul 4, 2005, 05:37 AM
Hey all,
I was just thinking about this time when a few mates and i convinced another friend who didn't know anyone that one of us was the son of a billionaire. The guy who was pretending then ad-libbed a story so tall you would think that no one would believe it - but the acting was so good that the guy totally fell for it (he still doesn't know the truth!)!
This got me to thinking what the biggest load of bull someone has told YOU? Or have you been the one telling tall tales you thought you would never get away with?
I remember also when the 4th gen ipods came out, i went to the local store a few days later and the sales guy tried to convince me that the 3rd gen model was going to be here for ages - and i should buy one!
So also, whats the biggest load of rubbish a sales person has used to try and trick you into buying something?
Uma888
Jul 4, 2005, 06:41 AM
the biggest lies iv heard,
"sadaam hussain has wmd's and can launch them within 45mins"
"dr kelly commited suicide"
"princess diana has been killed in a road accident"
"Service Pack 2 enhances security"
A sales person based lies:
"You need the extended warranty"
"if you buy today, we can sort you out a deal" (which usually means you spending a bit more money :p
"its better if you use our finaince options rather than use you credit card"
"the more mhz/ghz your computer has, the faster it is"
those are just some :p
student_trap
Jul 4, 2005, 06:47 AM
"sadaam hussain has wmd's and can launch them within 45mins"
kicking myself that i didn't mention that!
5300cs
Jul 4, 2005, 07:34 AM
That PPC is faster than x86
*ducks*
AmigoMac
Jul 4, 2005, 09:14 AM
Top lies of the last years...
I sent you the email, if you didn't get it, it should be a problem with the server.
I forgot your email.
I'll call you back.
My battery is over.
My PC got a virus and had to format the HD, TWICE!!! (When excusing a homework delay) (Not really a lie if you use windows) ;) (Take care of your butt if your teacher knows you have a Mac).
There's a lot of traffic!!
3GHz in 1 year!!!! - SJ WWDC 2003!! :D
efoto
Jul 4, 2005, 09:18 AM
Well I forget the thread, and forget who actually started it, but it was an April Fools lie in which a member here posted about his girlfriend leaving him, taking all of his stuff (including Apple computers) and his dog or something....pretty damn funny. It got a little more serious when another member posted how he understood because his girlfriend had just left him (seriously) so the thread was ended out of respect, but for the bit it ran it was really funny.
Other than that, I have heard
"French (language) is easy, you'll pick it up in no time."
Me: "Why do you hate Apple?" Friend: "I don't know, I can't use their OS." Me: :rolleyes:
Friend: "Quit talking about my mom, she isn't hot." (Turns out she was a bombshell, none of us knew it and we had just started joking randomly about her to frustrate our friend.....MILF if I ever saw one :p)
iBlue
Jul 4, 2005, 12:00 PM
I'm an american, all I hear are lies ;)
Sun Baked
Jul 4, 2005, 12:10 PM
the biggest lies iv heard,
"sadaam hussain has wmd's and can launch them within 45mins"
"Service Pack 2 enhances security"MicroSoft, "a leading innovator in the industry." :confused:
PlaceofDis
Jul 4, 2005, 12:17 PM
I'm an american, all I hear are lies ;)
from the rednecks and government at least, but there are some that are educated (most of the time)
asif786
Jul 4, 2005, 12:17 PM
Top lies of the last years...
I sent you the email, if you didn't get it, it should be a problem with the server.
oh my gosh, the memories of school! i totally used to use that one all the time.
or: 'the attachment must be too big for the server' <--that was my fav heh.
mkrishnan
Jul 4, 2005, 12:23 PM
Well I forget the thread, and forget who actually started it....
Oh my gosh, that was a joke? I never saw the thread after the very beginning. Eeep. :rolleyes: :eek: :(
And I have known people who did similar things too.... and was almost or sort of caught in the middle of it once.
But yeah, I guess I could've seen it being really funny anyway! :)
I'll have to chime in my vote for the WMDs one, along with the extended lie that linked Afghanistan to Al-Qaeda and made the primary objective there to supposedly capture Bin Laden and the people responsible for 9/11....
iGary
Jul 4, 2005, 12:24 PM
"I never got your voicemail."
Uh huh. :rolleyes:
"That's not what we originally agreed on."
Sure. :rolleyes:
devilot
Jul 4, 2005, 12:29 PM
Biggest lie I ever told and got away w/: essentially, "I have kidney failure and as such have been missing class to see different specialists, get tested, and will probably be unable to complete 2/3 of the assignments by the end of the term."
<hangs head in shame> Don't hate me, please. :(
Biggest lie I've been fed and fell for, "I love you, and I would never cheat on you."
iBlue
Jul 4, 2005, 12:30 PM
from the rednecks and government at least, but there are some that are educated (most of the time)
right :D but http://img68.echo.cx/img68/4989/apple4thjuly4ar.gif anyway [haha]
(yeah I made it, and wanted an excuse to post it)
devilot
Jul 4, 2005, 12:33 PM
http://img68.echo.cx/img68/4989/apple4thjuly4ar.gif anyway [haha]
(yeah I made it, and wanted an excuse to post it)
Aww that's cute! No excuses needed! :D
mgargan1
Jul 4, 2005, 12:56 PM
how can you tell when a salesman is lying?
when his mouth is open...
...I was just thinking about this time when a few mates and i convinced another friend who didn't know anyone that one of us was the son of God. The guy who was pretending then ad-libbed a story so tall you would think that no one would believe it - but the acting was so good that the guy totally fell for it (he still doesn't know the truth!)!...
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good.......etc. etc. etc. :D
skunk
Jul 4, 2005, 01:28 PM
right :D but http://img68.echo.cx/img68/4989/apple4thjuly4ar.gif anyway [haha]It would be churlish to begrudge you your memories...
jalagl
Jul 4, 2005, 05:01 PM
The best one I've heard was from a salesperson at Fry's in Palo Alto. I was looking for a headset to use with skype, so I asked one of the sales guys where I would find one. He took me to the right place, and then he started to tell me about the features of the headsets. Now, I was expecting he said something about the quality of the mike, how clear it sounded, etc.. instead the conversation went something like this.
Me: Yes, I'm looking for a headset that's not too expensive
SalesGuy: I recommend this one (~$30).
Me: What advantages does it have?
SalesGuy: The biggest problem with Skype is the delay in communication. With this headset, since it has higher quality, the voice travels faster, so the communication is better and there is less delay when the person at the other side hears you ...
Me: ...
Me: ...
Me: Ok, I'll take this $20 Logitechs.. thanks for the help! (and ran to the cashier)
And yes, this is a standard headset, the one that plugs into the line in and headphone out jack ... I have no clue what that guy was saying if he was just lying or didn't really have a clue what he was selling.
iMeowbot
Jul 4, 2005, 05:19 PM
No jobs will be lost as a result of the merger.
Peterkro
Jul 4, 2005, 05:35 PM
Nixons "there will be no whitewash at the whitehouse" has got to rate up there.Mind you I've never heard a politician speak the truth.The WMD ones just recent examples of outright lies which resulted in thousands of deaths.
Brother Michael
Jul 4, 2005, 05:50 PM
That the moon landing was false.
Mike
dotdotdot
Jul 4, 2005, 05:55 PM
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keysersoze
Jul 4, 2005, 06:06 PM
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky."
Giaguara
Jul 4, 2005, 06:15 PM
"I am about to leave her." (an ex)
"Finding files on your hard drive with Spotlight is easy (as 'easier than finding files in 10.3')."
"Free for life" (.Mac)
Sun Baked
Jul 4, 2005, 06:28 PM
Ken Lay -- all the "enourmous opportunities" for employees buying Enron stock.
barneygumble
Jul 4, 2005, 06:31 PM
The Bible - have you actually read Genesis, holy crap i cannot believe anyone believe it
BornAgainMac
Jul 4, 2005, 06:47 PM
"It was just a weather ballon." - Roswell, New Mexico (1947)
Orlando Furioso
Jul 4, 2005, 07:05 PM
from the rednecks and government at least, but there are some that are educated (most of the time)
An education does not rescind the ability to lie.
Best "real" excuse given for a missing assignment: "My house was flooded... and on fire."
The Bible - have you actually read Genesis, holy crap i cannot believe anyone believe it
See post #14, that's the 1st 4lines of Genesis.
barneygumble
Jul 4, 2005, 07:32 PM
See post #14, that's the 1st 4lines of Genesis.
Yeah i know but you posted 4 lines, theres hundreads of pages of this stuff, brilliant
ham_man
Jul 4, 2005, 07:41 PM
Ummmm...
"Macs suck" - my brother
QCassidy352
Jul 4, 2005, 08:16 PM
Biggest lie I've been fed and fell for, "I love you, and I would never cheat on you."
You and me both... you and me both.
"We know there are links between Al Queda and Iraq" is a fun one. I was also gonna say the "3 Ghz within a year" but someone beat me to it...
There are also some fantastic and easily proved lies in Al Franken's book "Lies and the lying liars who tell them." I won't try to list them (it would take pages and pages), but here's one of my favorites: Dick Cheney saying that "every time he flies in to Washington he looks out the window of the plane, sees the rows upon rows of white crosses in Arlington National Cemetary, and thinks of the soldiers who have given their lives for this country." The problem with that statement? Arlington is a national cemetary, meaning there are no religous markings, including crosses, on any of the graves. It wouldn't have been so bad except that he claimed to look out at these crosses every time he flew in in D.C., so that kinda implies that he never looks out at Arlington...
xsedrinam
Jul 4, 2005, 08:52 PM
"Imagine, there's no Heaven..."
X
Macaddicttt
Jul 4, 2005, 09:25 PM
The Bible - have you actually read Genesis, holy crap i cannot believe anyone believe it
Most people (the smart ones), don't take it literally...
That's like calling the any book a lie because it was meant as an allegory, but lots of people have taken it wrong.
wdlove
Jul 4, 2005, 09:44 PM
For me the biggest thing is, "I will call you back." Also it bothers me the most., hurts. :(
mkrishnan
Jul 4, 2005, 09:51 PM
For me the biggest thing is, "I will call you back." Also it bothers me the most., hurts. :(
Hmmm. Yeah. :( I'm so sorry...I feel it too. :(
I think that, "There's nothing I can do," is the biggest lie we all tell ourselves and each other. :(
iSaint
Jul 4, 2005, 10:03 PM
"Macs have viruses"
"Mac viruses just havent been released yet"
"Windows doesnt have viruses"
"Macs are too expensive and suck balls"
"*insert singer here, britney spears works best* has a good voice!"
"*singer* actually sings their songs!"
"Make your teeth whiter in 10 days"
or...
"*insert pop/country singer* actually writes their songs!"
revenuee
Jul 4, 2005, 10:24 PM
"you're a nice guy, and girl would be lucky to have you"
Not completely a lie, just that there is a difference between nice and a wussy.
just have to change perspective a little
MBHockey
Jul 4, 2005, 10:34 PM
iraq is a threat to the united states/the world since it has nuclear weapons already made.
QCassidy352
Jul 5, 2005, 12:12 AM
For me the biggest thing is, "I will call you back." Also it bothers me the most., hurts. :(
Ah, very true! If it's someone you care about then that definitely hurts.
barneygumble
Jul 5, 2005, 12:41 AM
Most people (the smart ones), don't take it literally...
That's like calling the any book a lie because it was meant as an allegory, but lots of people have taken it wrong.
How can the "Earth was created in 7 days" be taken any way other than literally it is stated as fact :confused: :confused: :confused:
rendezvouscp
Jul 5, 2005, 12:43 AM
I've got two, one that I've heard, and one that I've told. I'll start with the one that I've told, and then the one I've heard (to bring my post back on topic).
Biggest one I've ever told: I managed to convince a classmate in English that for my group's project, we were building a 35' raft and a pond to hold it. I elaborated on and on about how we were going to make it, and he actually gave me suggestions as to what I should do to make it better.
Biggest one I've ever heard: A friend convinced another friend of mine that there are actually 53 states in the U.S. (in an 8th grade history class).
-Chase
quagmire
Jul 5, 2005, 01:08 AM
" I will not bring this country to war!" George W. Bush in his 2000 election speech.
Sales person lie
" The iPods battery lasts for 7 months, you need to pay $250 for it to be replaced, and you can't replace it. While we will give you a new iPod no matter what is wrong with it. The iRiver is the best MP3 player out there. Apple copied iRiver." I got into a verbal fight with the guy. He worked for Bestbuy.
AliensAreFuzzy
Jul 5, 2005, 01:32 AM
"Trust me"
AliensAreFuzzy
Jul 5, 2005, 01:37 AM
For me the biggest thing is, "I will call you back." Also it bothers me the most., hurts. :(
I've had some bad experiences with that too. :(
Macaddicttt
Jul 5, 2005, 01:42 AM
How can the "Earth was created in 7 days" be taken any way other than literally it is stated as fact :confused: :confused: :confused:
The Bible never says, "The earth was created in seven days." It uses the story to show that God created everything: land and sea, light and dark, plants and animals. It uses seven days as a symbol and to draw importance to the Sabbath.
Here's the clincher to knowing the Bible (esp. Genesis) shouldn't be taken literally (don't tell the Bible-beating conservatives...): It contradicts itself. For example, there are two stories of Creation: the seven days one and the Adam and Eve one. In one, animals are created first and then man is created. In the other, man is created and then the animals are created to be his companions. They are just stories to emphasize the important things about creation. The first (seven days) wanted to show that God created everything (among other things) and the second (Adam and Eve) wanted to show that animals are for man and that man has importance among the animals (again, among other things).
I recommend you take a class in Biblical literature (preferably at a Catholic or secular institution) before you bash the Bible. Otherwise, you're just as bad as the fundamentalist Christian who accepts the whole thing as written fact.
Chaszmyr
Jul 5, 2005, 02:10 AM
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"Their infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad. Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected."
-Iraqi Information Minister
quagmire
Jul 5, 2005, 02:32 AM
I just remembered some more
The US troops put the car bombs in innocent Iraqis cars/trucks and set them to explode.
The US plant weapons on dead kids bodies to make them look like they were insurgents.
Democrats wants troops to die.
barneygumble
Jul 5, 2005, 02:46 AM
The Bible never says, "The earth was created in seven days." It uses the story to show that God created everything: land and sea, light and dark, plants and animals. It uses seven days as a symbol and to draw importance to the Sabbath.
Here's the clincher to knowing the Bible (esp. Genesis) shouldn't be taken literally (don't tell the Bible-beating conservatives...): It contradicts itself. For example, there are two stories of Creation: the seven days one and the Adam and Eve one. In one, animals are created first and then man is created. In the other, man is created and then the animals are created to be his companions. They are just stories to emphasize the important things about creation. The first (seven days) wanted to show that God created everything (among other things) and the second (Adam and Eve) wanted to show that animals are for man and that man has importance among the animals (again, among other things).
I recommend you take a class in Biblical literature (preferably at a Catholic or secular institution) before you bash the Bible. Otherwise, you're just as bad as the fundamentalist Christian who accepts the whole thing as written fact.
I was in fact just reading up on it in wikipedia and will concede the point. You are obviosly far more knowledgable on the subject than myself
efoto
Jul 5, 2005, 03:05 AM
For me the biggest thing is, "I will call you back." Also it bothers me the most., hurts. :(I've had some bad experiences with that too. :(
I think most everyone has had bad experiences with this one. Like QCass said if it is someone that you care about then it hurts really bad at times.
Obviously some topics are of more concern than others, but even the "I'll call you right back" and then 60 minutes later nothing can still hurt quite a bit, even if it was just for a chat. I get into arguments with my good friend over this a lot, since it is her biggest pet peeve, yet she does it too :rolleyes:
efoto
Jul 5, 2005, 03:07 AM
Biggest lie I ever told and got away w/: essentially, "I have kidney failure and as such have been missing class to see different specialists, get tested, and will probably be unable to complete 2/3 of the assignments by the end of the term."
<hangs head in shame> Don't hate me, please. :(
Biggest lie I've been fed and fell for, "I love you, and I would never cheat on you."
I don't hate you, I respect your creativity and acting abilities, but that IS pretty aweful, you should feel at least a little bad for that one....
The second, well I have heard that before too, and well....yeah :(
risc
Jul 5, 2005, 03:14 AM
Everything to do with the War on Terror.
I've given up watching the news now because I can't handle all the doublespeak. Sometimes it really does feel like I'm living in an Eric Arthur Blair book.
/me sits down and tries to work out who the real enemy is Eurasia or Eastasia.
MongoTheGeek
Jul 5, 2005, 08:38 AM
Whats the difference between a computer salesman and a used car salesman?
The used car salesman can use his product and knows when he is lying.
The biggest lie I ever told... That there was argon in the ethernet which is how it worked. I had help on that one. Once some other people saw I had the fish hooked they helped reel him in.
From various conversations on biggest lies ever told
(Blanked cause its rude read at your own risk)I won't come in your mouth
The checks in the mail.
This won't hurt a bit.
I'll see you in church.
I'm from the government and here to help. (didn't know at the time Reagan gave it as the scariest thing to hear)
...From various conversations on biggest lies ever told
(Blanked cause its rude read at your own risk)I won't come in your mouth
The checks in the mail.
This won't hurt a bit.
I'll see you in church.
I'm from the government and here to help. (didn't know at the time Reagan gave it as the scariest thing to hear)
If it was one coversation shouldn't the order of the above be;
The last first, third next, first third, then the second with fourth to finish?
MongoTheGeek
Jul 5, 2005, 09:55 AM
If it was one coversation shouldn't the order of the above be;
The last first, third next, first third, then the second with fourth to finish?
Two different conversations...
There was actually another one that slid in there.
"I'll love you forever."
themacman
Jul 5, 2005, 10:03 AM
I'm an american, all I hear are lies ;)
so sad, so true
themacman
Jul 5, 2005, 10:07 AM
How can the "Earth was created in 7 days" be taken any way other than literally it is stated as fact :confused: :confused: :confused:
people say that back then they determined a day a lot longer then we do so seven days good techniqly a milion years.
rainman::|:|
Jul 5, 2005, 10:12 AM
i gotta go with the bible
i know a lot of people roll their eyes or whatever, think we're being political when we say that, just to get an extra dig in. but to people like me, it really is the biggest, most widespread lie.
i've told guys i was straight to avoid dating them. ah, it didn't work too well if we had just been fooling around.
there's a good lie-- i knew since i was a kid that i was gay, but told people the opposite until 16. that makes me a liar every day for over a decade.
nowadays i don't lie very often, unless it's involving work, because i find that if i'm in a situation where i need to lie, i've made an error at some point.
devilot
Jul 5, 2005, 10:14 AM
people say that back then they determined a day a lot longer then we do so seven days good techniqly a milion years.
But if that were the case, then you still wouldn't be able to explain how different people lived 300+ years, like, "Noah lived 950 years, and then he died." Genesis 9:29 NIV (there are other folks who lived long lives as well.)
This won't hurt a bit.
That's so true. Darn dentists and doctors! <Shaking fist at the sky>
zelmo
Jul 5, 2005, 10:22 AM
Not the biggest lie I've ever heard, but this one amused me when I realized it was a lie.
There were three older (65+ when I was pre-teen) women living in a house in my neighborhood growing up. They rarely came out and were pretty mean to us kids. You know the type - they would keep any ball or frisbee that went into their yard. Anyway, my mom told me they were spinster sisters who had just never married. Years later, I came to realize they were probably lesbians, and that my mom probably created the cover story because her generation just didn't discuss such things. I asked my mom about it a few years back, and she got all red and changed the subject, pretty much confirming what I had guessed.
No wonder they were mean and bitter, though, having to live a lie all their lives because society couldn't cope.
jefhatfield
Jul 5, 2005, 10:32 AM
the biggest lies iv heard,
"sadaam hussain has wmd's and can launch them within 45mins"
that wmd fiasco is the biggest lie since nixon said he was not a crook ;)
and the wmd thing is the poorest excuse i have ever heard of for a war
it's downright shameful and it doesn't make the usa look good in the eyes of the world
w might as well have said he wanted to attack iraq so he could be like his daddy...yale, skull and bones, pilot, oilman, governor, president, and yes, incompetent boob
note: at least i can say two good things for bush...he gets along with his dad and supposedly, he treats all of his staff very graciously (...from a friend we know who works for him)...but sometimes that's not enough to run a country and i would have rather had a mean sob who: 1) kept us out of iraq, and 2) nurtured our record surplus
michaelrjohnson
Jul 5, 2005, 10:35 AM
The War on Terror in its entirety. I would say "I told you so.", but it's disrespectful of the US troops being forcefully held to fight a war that's utterly rediculous on every level.
"I'm a uniter, not a divider" -George W. Bush
jefhatfield
Jul 5, 2005, 10:47 AM
"I'm a uniter, not a divider" -George W. Bush
wow, that's another one i could put up there as a big, big lie
in texas when he was a moderate republican governor, living his moderate republican promises, then i could say, "yes, he was a uniter"
...but now we have a moderate republican president acting like an ultra conservative republican president increasingly legislating our country, as an ultra conservative, into something that does not resemble the constitution
in another few years, america will yield to another "king george"
i know with gonzales, powell, and rice that w has a moderate side to him but i want the president to now make a legacy and prove his ability to "unite" america
so come on, george, get with the uniting and make serious alliances with mccain, whitman, giuliani, and schwartzneggar...as well as with feinstein, pelosi, and kennedy
iAlan
Jul 5, 2005, 10:56 AM
I've told guys i was straight to avoid dating them.
Ditto...but it did come back to bite me on the ass (no pun intended!) when I kept running into this one guy at a gay bar, and he was persistant in wanting to get to know me better...what is that expression 'fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me' (from his perspective. not mine)
I have also used 'No' to answer the 'Do you come here often?' /'Are you a reguarl?' type questions - and that is a lie in most instances.
And my favourite is when someone says 'It was only a while lie' Huh? A lie is a lie, isn't it, no matter what colour you try to paint it.
Oh, I thought of another one that can come in handy 'I am not looking for a relationship'. I have started more relationships on that one than any other!
rainman::|:|
Jul 5, 2005, 11:29 AM
Oh, I thought of another one that can come in handy 'I am not looking for a relationship'. I have started more relationships on that one than any other!
I hear that, the best way for me to find a boyfriend is to say "no dating for ___ period of time", the very next day a cute boy will come along and crush on me. Well, 5 years into a relationship, it doesn't come up often, but it always used to do it.
Anyone ever lie as a compliment, then get it thrown in your face? Like, you tell someone you like the painting on their wall-- the one with pheasants flying over a pond, sofa-sized, with a brass plaque dedicated to hunting-- only to have them buy you one. Something like that. Always makes me feel guilty, but then, society does demand complimentary lies. Try telling the brutal truth for a week (no, that outfit doesn't make you look fat, your hips do), see how many people still like you.
devilot
Jul 5, 2005, 11:52 AM
Always makes me feel guilty, but then, society does demand complimentary lies. Try telling the brutal truth for a week (no, that outfit doesn't make you look fat, your hips do), see how many people still like you.
I dunno, I feel like you shouldn't lie, but you don't have to be "brutal." In that situation one could say something to the effect of, "Well, I think a different pair of pants would suit you more." But I guess brutality can be a little bit of fun once in awhile. ;)
iAlan
Jul 5, 2005, 12:11 PM
But I guess brutality can be a little bit of fun once in awhile. ;)
One I have actually used, but very tounge in cheek
Friend: 'Do you like my new haircut?'
Me: 'No, I can still see your face!'
A lie I sometimes hear 'My previous job paid better'. Really? Then why did you change jobs? If not for more money...why?
Another lie I sometimes use 'It was on sale' every time I come home with something new from Apple or for my Mac (just got a 20GB iPod with colour screen, but I didn't get away with the 'it was on sale' excuse, but hey, i don't care i got a new iPod...now what to do with my 30GB iPod, my iPod mini and my 'schuffle? Oh and my 1st gen original iPod...)
michaelrjohnson
Jul 5, 2005, 12:20 PM
(just got a 20GB iPod with colour screen, but I didn't get away with the 'it was on sale' excuse, but hey, i don't care i got a new iPod...now what to do with my 30GB iPod, my iPod mini and my 'schuffle? Oh and my 1st gen original iPod...)
That's quite an iPod family!
devman
Jul 5, 2005, 01:42 PM
Told by most married men to their wives.
"Of course I love your Mother"
Told by most men to women.
"Of course I won't come in your mouth"
Macaddicttt
Jul 5, 2005, 01:49 PM
But if that were the case, then you still wouldn't be able to explain how different people lived 300+ years, like, "Noah lived 950 years, and then he died." Genesis 9:29 NIV (there are other folks who lived long lives as well.)
Please read my previous post on the Creation stories in Genesis. It's not to be taken literally. Even saying, "They mean something longer than days; they mean 'seven periods of millions of years,'" is taking it too literally. The age thing is just a way of giving those people prominence.
Have you ever read a novel? A novel of fiction? One that uses a story and made up characters to portray a truth of human nature? Is the author lying? No. He's just using a different medium than fact giving. The Bible isn't quite like a novel, but similar. Again, please read up on the subject before you bash it.
devilot
Jul 5, 2005, 01:55 PM
Please read my previous post on the Creation stories in Genesis. It's not to be taken literally. Even saying, "They mean something longer than days; they mean 'seven periods of millions of years,'" is taking it too literally. The age thing is just a way of giving those people prominence.
Again, please read up on the subject before you bash it.
I think you misunderstood my post. I was responding to themacman beacuse I am in agreeance with you. For the record, that's why I included the version of the Bible that I pulled the verse from as well as the chapter; because I used to read the Bible regularly.
mgargan1
Jul 5, 2005, 01:57 PM
that santa claus is real...
applebum
Jul 5, 2005, 02:09 PM
Please read my previous post on the Creation stories in Genesis. It's not to be taken literally. Even saying, "They mean something longer than days; they mean 'seven periods of millions of years,'" is taking it too literally. The age thing is just a way of giving those people prominence.
Actually, it could even be true. One of the theories I have heard is that this time would have been before calendars. So, back then they would have used the moon as a means of judging the passing of time. So then 1 "year" or age would have been each new or full moon. Figure there are at least 10 full moons per year (probably more like 13) and that 950 years becomes only 95 or less. Now we are certainly within the realm of possibility. Just because something in the Bible does not make sense today, does not mean that it isn't/wasn't true.
rainman::|:|
Jul 5, 2005, 02:29 PM
Please read my previous post on the Creation stories in Genesis. It's not to be taken literally. Even saying, "They mean something longer than days; they mean 'seven periods of millions of years,'" is taking it too literally. The age thing is just a way of giving those people prominence.
Have you ever read a novel? A novel of fiction? One that uses a story and made up characters to portray a truth of human nature? Is the author lying? No. He's just using a different medium than fact giving. The Bible isn't quite like a novel, but similar. Again, please read up on the subject before you bash it.
Just because you interpret the Bible as non-literal, doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do treat it literally. You cant claim to be speaking for them, and that's who we're, or at least I'm, talking about.
devilot
Jul 5, 2005, 02:35 PM
Just because you interpret the Bible as non-literal, doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do treat it literally. You cant claim to be speaking for them, and that's who we're, or at least I'm, talking about.
That's very true as well. That's why I'll probably NEVER know all the different Christian denominations, woo hoo for non-denominational! ;)
Macaddicttt
Jul 5, 2005, 02:45 PM
I think you misunderstood my post. I was responding to themacman beacuse I am in agreeance with you. For the record, that's why I included the version of the Bible that I pulled the verse from as well as the chapter; because I used to read the Bible regularly.
Yes, I'm sorry. I misunderstood.
Macaddicttt
Jul 5, 2005, 02:47 PM
Just because you interpret the Bible as non-literal, doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do treat it literally. You cant claim to be speaking for them, and that's who we're, or at least I'm, talking about.
Okay, then how about you change your response of the biggest lie you've ever heard from "The Bible" to "The Bible is supposed to be taken literally" or something like that?
stevietheb
Jul 5, 2005, 03:07 PM
Dick Cheney saying that "every time he flies in to Washington he looks out the window of the plane, sees the rows upon rows of white crosses in Arlington National Cemetary, and thinks of the soldiers who have given their lives for this country." The problem with that statement? Arlington is a national cemetary, meaning there are no religous markings, including crosses, on any of the graves. It wouldn't have been so bad except that he claimed to look out at these crosses every time he flew in in D.C., so that kinda implies that he never looks out at Arlington...
Your statement is technically false. While Dick Cheney is certainly mistaken in discussing "rows upon rows" of cross-shaped grave markings (which he, to my knowledge, definitely would not see looking out the window of his plane), there ARE religious markings and there ARE cross-shaped graves (though not in abundance). For example, the grave of Robert F. Kennedy is marked by a cross (and a footstone, I believe). Many of the graves are simple tombstones with a religious symbol at the top (cross, star of david, etc) followed by the person's name and other information.
Simply because it's a national cemetery doesn't mean it must be devoid of religious markings and/or religious significance--though this might be what some folks want...
stevietheb
Jul 5, 2005, 03:10 PM
Just because you interpret the Bible as non-literal, doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do treat it literally. You cant claim to be speaking for them, and that's who we're, or at least I'm, talking about.
I don't think those people are lying when they tell you that the Bible should be taken literally...it is certainly something they believe. I find it difficult to fault them for that.
rt_brained
Jul 5, 2005, 03:15 PM
Hey all,...what the biggest load of bull someone has told YOU?"You're doing a great job."
Lyle
Jul 5, 2005, 04:59 PM
This got me to thinking what the biggest load of bull someone has told YOU?"I'm open-minded."
QCassidy352
Jul 5, 2005, 08:13 PM
Your statement is technically false. While Dick Cheney is certainly mistaken in discussing "rows upon rows" of cross-shaped grave markings (which he, to my knowledge, definitely would not see looking out the window of his plane), there ARE religious markings and there ARE cross-shaped graves (though not in abundance).
Ok, fair enough. You're right. But what we was really describing was a graveyard (Potter's Field I think? Can't remember) in Europe full of the dead from one of the World Wars. Meaning, there is such a place as he described, but it's not Arlington National Cemetary. But point taken about the individual religious markings at Arlington.
Don't panic
Jul 5, 2005, 08:42 PM
that santa claus is real...
what do you mean?
solvs
Jul 6, 2005, 02:14 AM
"I'll love you forever."
That was a big one for me. Shame this is in the Poli Forum now, but I guess it was bound to head that way. Both the "I didn't not have sexual relations with that woman" and everything about the current Iraq quagmire, no need to play partisan. Of course, one is actually getting people killed... but at the time the BJ was a big deal. Sad that we're just used to politicians lying to us. Liberals and conservatives.
efoto
Jul 6, 2005, 07:35 AM
that santa claus is real...
Son of a bi***, no fu**ing way! You must be kidding right? :confused:
Today sucks, that was the last thread of hope I had in the world, that a huge man in a red suit would be carted around by flying reindeer and deliver presents down the chimney I don't have....all while I sleep....and he can get to all the kids the world around because he is fast, über fast, despite being large, and the reindeer are fast too, and and, and because he can.
Best lie of late:
"Your visa will be ready Friday, go ahead and make the appointment at the consulate."
Told to my friend here in France, about his work-visa for heading to the States for a while. He called and made the appointment, visa wasn't ready so he had to cancel, paying the 15€ penalty for the THIRD TIME! Needless to say, he isn't happy.
skunk
Jul 6, 2005, 07:46 AM
Told to my friend here in France, about his work-visa for heading to the States for a while. He called and made the appointment, visa wasn't ready so he had to cancel, paying the 15€ penalty for the THIRD TIME! Needless to say, he isn't happy.He should be pleased to see that the Americans at the Consulate have clearly gone native. It's a compliment. ;)
efoto
Jul 6, 2005, 08:07 AM
He should be pleased to see that the Americans at the Consulate have clearly gone native. It's a compliment. ;)
Have gone "native"? I don't understand that term in this context, what do you mean?
Desertrat
Jul 6, 2005, 09:08 AM
Biggest lie? "This government program will solve..." followed by the Chamber of Commerce's "This will expand the tax base so we will have more services without raising taxes." But people believe this BS today, even after over fifty years of obvious contradiction by history...
:), 'Rat
stubeeef
Jul 6, 2005, 09:58 AM
Anyone ever lie as a compliment, then get it thrown in your face? Like, you tell someone you like the painting on their wall-- the one with pheasants flying over a pond, sofa-sized, with a brass plaque dedicated to hunting-- only to have them buy you one. Something like that. Always makes me feel guilty, but then, society does demand complimentary lies. Try telling the brutal truth for a week (no, that outfit doesn't make you look fat, your hips do), see how many people still like you.
LOL,UGH! Yes, then they come by your house 6 months later looking for it! oy!
iAlan
Jul 7, 2005, 09:35 AM
That's quite an iPod family!
Yes, but my attempts to get them to breed and produce a 'schuffle with a screen have failed... need more lightning Egor,,,,,
Back on topic, my favorite all time lie, which has been noted by several posters is
'This won't hut a bit..."
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