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Hemingray
Oct 30, 2002, 01:42 PM
Amazing... talk about sleeping with the enemy...

According to MacNN:

Dell Computer will be carrying Apple's Windows version of the iPod, according to c|net. "Yep, Dell is reselling iPods," Apple said in a statement. "We are delighted to offer our 5GB, 10GB and 20GB iPods for Windows through Dell's direct retail channel. iPod has been a big success to date, and we would like to make it even bigger."

[EDIT: c|net link]: http://news.com.com/2100-1040-963901.html

iShater
Oct 30, 2002, 02:02 PM
Maaaaaaaan, how come I am always like 10 mins behind in posting the news first? :rolleyes:

Now, does Dell have a digital-hub strategy that the iPod fits in with? :D


*first post?!*

whfsdude
Oct 30, 2002, 04:02 PM
w00t dell won't be dull anymore :D

medea
Oct 30, 2002, 04:55 PM
This I never expected....online PC stores and such sure, but Dell, thats weird, next thing Gateway will be selling them, with special cow print covers.:D
Oh don't feel bad iShater, Hemingray was behind a few minutes on posting this news http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13570

DeadlyBreakfast
Oct 30, 2002, 05:25 PM
Dude you're gettin an apple!!!

Hawthorne
Oct 30, 2002, 05:42 PM
Beezelbub has announced a new partnership with Polaris snowmobiles. Quoth His Satanic Majesty, "Ever since the Dell-Apple was announced, it's been getting colder and colder here. We looked around for a business that offered us the best solution to getting around in all the snow that's been falling, and Polaris, with their reputation for quality, was a perfect match."

Michael Dell was unavailable for comment.

sweetaction
Oct 30, 2002, 06:24 PM
This is the beginning of the Marklar movement. With Dell and Apple being buddies, OSX can be platform independent. And with Dells marketshare and mubblings about tension about only providing MSFT OS's, I think Mike would be down to up the ante a bit.

With Apple going 64bit, Apple hardware will be the powerhouses that OSX screams on.

TV looks good on a Sony WEGA, but looks even better on a 64 inch plasma screen.

Catch my drift?

aaron

rice_web
Oct 30, 2002, 06:29 PM
I'd like Apple to build up its relationship with Dell...

LICENSE THE OS TO DELL!!

Okay, enough of that....

topicolo
Oct 30, 2002, 06:29 PM
Man, am I really reading this, or has all of those times that I've been drunk finally caught up to me?:confused:

awulf
Oct 30, 2002, 07:01 PM
Dell and Apple, What's Next?

Don't people who sell iPods have to be Authorised Apple Dealers?

So dosn't that mean that Dell and Target have the abillity to sell macs?

Wildcat
Oct 30, 2002, 07:10 PM
I think that anyway apple can push ipods is a good.

iscripter
Oct 30, 2002, 07:13 PM
This is just to weird, its like a episode of the twilight zone or something. First Apple makes a windows version of iPod, then they let Target sell them now this.
New Commercial: "Dude!!! your getting an iPod and a Dell!!!"

xelterran
Oct 30, 2002, 07:18 PM
dell? go to hell! =(

Hawthorne
Oct 30, 2002, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by sweetaction
This is the beginning of the Marklar movement. With Dell and Apple being buddies, OSX can be platform independent. And with Dells marketshare and mubblings about tension about only providing MSFT OS's, I think Mike would be down to up the ante a bit.

aaron

Never...going....to....happen. Ever.

Michael Dell has fired some rather nasty blasts at Apple in the past, stuff that makes John Dvorak look like Apple's biggest fan. Dell has made no bones about his business plan being to repackage whatever Intel and MicroSoft sends him. That his company is now selling iPods is proof of just how of a product the iPod is.

Moonlight
Oct 30, 2002, 07:44 PM
Day turns into night...
night turns into day...

air turns into poison

the stars are spinning

Cats and Dogs living together....

I guess it makes sense ?? No it doesn't...

ShaolinMiddleFinger
Oct 30, 2002, 07:52 PM
This is the funniest thing I heard!

Hehe....Dell is Apple's bitch!

jaykk
Oct 30, 2002, 09:38 PM
Apple is one of the most recognized brand .. I think this news is bigger than we think. Even if apple is not making any money, Apple Logo will be everywhere.. Apple's entry to corporate world is becoming a reality.

good job

bbarnhart
Oct 30, 2002, 09:38 PM
... Dell will be designing and assemblying PowerMacs and iMacs.

And, so what if they do. They might be able to do it cheaper than Apple or Alpha Top.

Str8edgepunker
Oct 30, 2002, 10:26 PM
This is absolutely unbelievable. This is almost inconcievable. What does this mean? We can only speculate. Well, I'm going do speculate. Dell computers featuring the Mac OS? Who knows. Man, when I get back into school, I'm going to show all my PC loving buddies what Dell, which is probably the biggest supplier of computers, is doing with Apple iPods. Selling them!! This is the first step to OS domination for Apple. Soon the world will be populated with Dell computers running the Mac OS. Then people will discover how good it really is. Then developers will see how many people like it and make more software for the Mac OS. Then manufacurers will see how the developers like it and make more hardware for the Mac OS. Then PC suppliers will ship the Mac OS. Then Windows will seem like a bad dream and Apple will rule the OS world. MWHAHAHAHAHA!!

Mirage_
Oct 30, 2002, 10:37 PM
yeah, I think this is more evidence of the iPods success in each of the 'camps', but I don't believe it says anything about Apples relationship with Dell, or OS X on x86, as some of you have posted about. Dell is simply giving their customers what they want on their website, iPods :).

Hawthorne
Oct 30, 2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Str8edgepunker
This is absolutely unbelievable. This is almost inconcievable. What does this mean? We can only speculate. Well, I'm going do speculate. Dell computers featuring the Mac OS? Who knows. Man, when I get back into school, I'm going to show all my PC loving buddies what Dell, which is probably the biggest supplier of computers, is doing with Apple iPods. Selling them!! This is the first step to OS domination for Apple. Soon the world will be populated with Dell computers running the Mac OS. Then people will discover how good it really is. Then developers will see how many people like it and make more software for the Mac OS. Then manufacurers will see how the developers like it and make more hardware for the Mac OS. Then PC suppliers will ship the Mac OS. Then Windows will seem like a bad dream and Apple will rule the OS world. MWHAHAHAHAHA!!

While no one would be happier to see Apple replace Dell at the top of the computer dogpile than I, the fact is, as long as Steve is in charge, OSX will run only on Apple machines. The first thing he did was end licensing the OS to clone makers. Apple computers are more than an OS, they're the whole ball o' wax.

This is great news. When the iPod first came out, my reaction was lukewarm at best.

Then I got one. Wow.

Dell is selling iPods for one reason only, they're the best-built, slickest mp3 players out there. This will make more people aware of the quality of Apple (imagine the embarrassment when the iPod keeps going long after the Dell has given up the ghost), which is always good.

LimeiBook86
Oct 30, 2002, 11:37 PM
from "Ghostbusters"-

We're talkin real biblical stuff here, real wrath of god type stuff, fire and brimstone falling from the sky! Cats and Dogs living togeather.. MASS HISTERIA!

(hey it's not the exact line from the movie,but you get the point ;))

Apple is smart, they are raking in the big bills now. If iPods start selling like wildfire Apple will be rich! I think this is great!! Well lets hope someone killed that dam kid Steve "Dude I have a machine gun... BBAAAAMM!!!" That should take care of him, heh heh heh :D

elgruga
Oct 31, 2002, 01:43 AM
Dell will purchase Apple and Steve Jobs will be Mike Dell's little friend. Oh dear, I am putting my Macs on ebay NOW!

I guess its back to the old pencil and note pad.

redAPPLE
Oct 31, 2002, 02:25 AM
i guess apple really needs the money, huh?

well, after millions of dollars being "lost"...

apple selling its soul (= ipod) to the devil...

just as the very famous poster said:

"I WANT TO BELIEVE"

i just hope the apple users would benefit in some way...

like, because of wider apple products exposure, we would get consumer-friendly prices...

dongmin
Oct 31, 2002, 04:06 AM
I woudn't read so much into it. They may hate each other but they're both businessmen.

Apple's trying to make a buck wherever they can (esp. after the last quarter). And I'm sure Dell is happy to sell something like the iPod which prolly has much better margins than their $499 PCs.

Rags
Oct 31, 2002, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by dongmin
I woudn't read so much into it. They may hate each other but they're both businessmen.

Apple's trying to make a buck wherever they can (esp. after the last quarter). And I'm sure Dell is happy to sell something like the iPod which prolly has much better margins than their $499 PCs.

heh our top of the line MP3 player costs as much as one of their computers :)

Wonder if that's good or bad...

If Apple would put OS X on Dell or any PC machines they would have to expand Cocoa and make it work so app's are designed to run natively on either PC or Mac hardware. If not I doubt the Mac will see much of a boost in software and the PC version will have a hard time gaining software support from the Mac version. In fact I wouldn't mind if it did this now but for Windows, I know, I know... but it sure would save me alot of time :p

I don't think this will happen with Jobs in the big seat and I actually don't mind. My Power Mac works just fine for me :D

srobert
Oct 31, 2002, 07:12 AM
http://homepage.mac.com/srobert/.Pictures/Other%20pics/dell_ipod.jpg

medea
Oct 31, 2002, 07:40 AM
You should check out the dell forums, here is an example of what you'll find:

-I can not tell if I have a Firewire enabled USB port so that I can connect an IPOD to my system. Can someone point me in the right direction?

-XPS T__x does not come with Firewire nor USB 2.0 which is even faster.

-i've got the 8200
what do i now need to hook the ipod up with no firewire receptacle?

Hahahaha

iJon
Oct 31, 2002, 07:58 AM
I think this is great. There is nothing wrong with Apple doing this. Not everyone is goign to get a mac. People will get Dells and Compaqs and so on. They have a Windows iPod, why wouldnt they sell windows ipods with windows computers. This doesnt hurt apple at all, it will just make them more money. They should do this with everyone in the PC business. Keep making money apple and lets see my stock try to go up while your at it.

iJon

Longey Nowze
Oct 31, 2002, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by medea
You should check out the dell forums, here is an example of what you'll find:

-I can not tell if I have a Firewire enabled USB port so that I can connect an IPOD to my system. Can someone point me in the right direction?

-XPS T__x does not come with Firewire nor USB 2.0 which is even faster.

-i've got the 8200
what do i now need to hook the ipod up with no firewire receptacle?

Hahahaha

could you give us a link? I would like to read them LOOL!

THANK YOU
MaT

medea
Oct 31, 2002, 08:46 AM
here you go...... http://search.dell.com/search_results.asp?seg=dhs&category=sup&subcategory=dtf&subsubcategory=&headlineText=SEARCH&kwfilter=any&keywords=ipod&resultsloc=&queryOffset=0&queryMaxHits=3&queryMaxHitsPerPage=3&numFilters=1&queryStartItem=1&SIM=&categoryOn=-1&tSummary=-1&imageOn=-1&manufacturer=&availability=&price1=&price2=&keywords2=&filtercategory=&filtersubcategory=&ranking=-1&syssurvey=+&snpsurvey=&sersurvey=+&supsurvey=&abtsurvey=&surveyLU=True&wf_1=&wft_1=&wfrl_1=&rlevel=2


another comment from the forum: (cut and paste) "Dell announced has now they are going to sell them then the Dell tech guys should learn what an iPod is; instead saying a what?"

CRMarvin42
Oct 31, 2002, 10:10 AM
Personally i think that dell selling apple products is a good thing. My reasoning is that Dell isn't acually competition. picture windows and intel as ford in the early years of the mass produced auto mobile. Ford was producing the exact same, car for everyone "You can buy a model T in any color you want as long as it is black" but latter came a small company that produced a car called the doozner after the sole owner, and salesman of the company.

Now if any of you have any auto history (i got mine from the history channel), you know that these two companies had very different methods. ford had privatly owned dealerships that simply sold the cars to any one and every one (dell, gate way, HP, etc.) but Dozner controled everything, you couldn't even buy a dozner without have had a meeting with the owner and gotten his permission to purchase one, and then you sat down with a designer and designed a cab so that your car was a one of a kind despite them all being built around the same chasis and engine.(apple)

now i know that apple hardware is considered to be far more restrictive than PC but the operatingsystem is where the difference lies. the stability of OS X allows modifications to the moon and back with out the fear of kill the computer.

doozner eventually went out of business for several reasons, one of them being their poor distribution. now if apple starts selling its computers thru dell it's a way of expanding their product disribution. Dell isn't a computer designer, they are little more than a dealership without anything being invested in one platform or another. If and when apple starts to challenge the PC market, Dell will jump onbord because they make a profit by selling someone elses product

(i'm well aware that i have probably gotten some of the history stuff wrong but look at the analogy i'm trying to make)

iShater
Oct 31, 2002, 01:56 PM
This is a great idea. Dell has a big presence in the tech world, so this opens a lot of 'traffic' checking out iPods. Heck, people might go look at Apple's page and discover what Macs look like!!!

More money for Apple, more hype generated about the iPod and whatever next digital hub device might be on the way.

Let us just hope that with the Holiday season coming, AAPL will go up a few bucks :D

-hh
Oct 31, 2002, 02:29 PM
...the rest of the Apple product line, I could trap my manager at work by having him give me permission to buy "anything that's listed on Dell's webpages" :D :D :D


I do have one question with the Windows -vs- Mac iPods, though:

If I have both a PC and a Mac and I only want to own one iPod that I can freely use on both of them, which iPod do I buy? :confused:



-hh

vniow
Oct 31, 2002, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by -hh



I do have one question with the Windows -vs- Mac iPods, though:

If I have both a PC and a Mac and I only want to own one iPod that I can freely use on both of them, which iPod do I buy? :confused:



-hh

click me once (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13087)
click me twice (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13455&highlight=mac+ipod+confusion)

IJ Reilly
Oct 31, 2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by jaykk
Apple is one of the most recognized brand .. I think this news is bigger than we think. Even if apple is not making any money, Apple Logo will be everywhere.. Apple's entry to corporate world is becoming a reality.

Not the corporate, the consumer products world. If you look at Apple's balance sheet for last quarter, the iPod was probably the difference between showing an operating profit and a loss. A long time ago, Uncle Steve said he was modeling Apple after Sony. Now we know how.

alex_ant
Oct 31, 2002, 10:48 PM
This is not unbelievable news. The iPod is an MP3 player, not a computer. Dell selling iPods is a win-win for both them and Apple, and it carries no significance whatsoever with regard to future OS X platform changes.

zac4mac
Nov 1, 2002, 08:47 AM
Whoever in Apple Marketing pulled off this deal is a friggin' genius.
I think this is the smartest move Apple's made under the iron fist of "His Steveness", although I still can't believe it's happened.
Hope they sell lots o' Pods and dump the profit into R&D

Maybe I'll order a remote from Dull....

Z