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loon3y
Apr 30, 2012, 06:40 PM
i have an iPad 16 GB and a iPhone 64 GB.


but their still not big enough (obviously my iPad) to hold my music.


i have bout 80 GB of music and it grows everyday.



i don't have a classic iPod yet, but i do need one for music.

when do u guys think it'll be obsolete? take in the fact that iTouch/iPad/iPhone takes hard disk space by getting apps and movies and such.




i think iPad will have to at least reach 250 GB and the iPhone/iTouch would need to reach 180-200.

even then i wouldn't know, because i get at least 40gigs of apps and if u would count movies oh my.


i have a go flex satellite for my movies, but that hard drive isn't too ideal for iPhones, as id want to be using the 3G while I'm playing my music.



barredfreak
Apr 30, 2012, 08:00 PM
I doubt it will be obsolete anytime soon. I actually have two iPod Classics, because I have over 250GB of music. I hope Apple releases a iPod with a huge capacity soon.

Spectrum Abuser
Apr 30, 2012, 08:42 PM
I doubt it will be obsolete anytime soon. I actually have two iPod Classics, because I have over 250GB of music. I hope Apple releases a iPod with a huge capacity soon.

I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.

decafjava
May 1, 2012, 03:27 AM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.
Maybe on a yearly basis? :D Actually if you use smartplaylists it is possible to rotate through your music collection, even larger ones. It's also possible to manage it on smaller devices in this way as well.

DavoteK
May 1, 2012, 03:32 AM
Got a large iTunes library from all the CDs I bought back in the day (they still sell CDs now?) and if I lumped it all on one device it would be too big for the classic.

Since getting an iPhone 3G and moving on to the current iPhone 4 I've been a big fan of using smart playlists or playlists in general. Top Rated music being probably the most used. I know if I've taken the time to rate something 4 or 5 stars then I won't mind that on shuffle.

Used to have an 80GB classic and filled it and I'd have to skip tracks like crazy to get to something I wanted. Don't get that problem anymore.

HallStevenson
May 1, 2012, 03:07 PM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter. Having it already on one device sure is a lot easier than rotating music on/off it to have the tunes he wants available though, isn't it ?

GimmeSlack12
May 1, 2012, 03:09 PM
OP, use iTunes Match so you can stream all your music whenever you want. It works really well although it can tear through your mobile data plan pretty fast.

jdiamond
May 2, 2012, 11:31 AM
People could listen to portable music for a really long time. I thought the big sell of the iPod was that you could take your entire music collection with you...

To be honest, Apple's entire flash SSD approach just doesn't make sense because of the iTunes store - they want us to buy and watch movies, television, HD stuff, zillions of apps and games, right? (I even occasionally watch a movie on my iPod Nano, but it's not easy.)

So where are we supposed to put that stuff?

If they even would just allow a portable external drive...

But I think it's pretty obvious that they'll likely kill off the iPod classic as soon as iPod Touches finally hit 256 GB.

Menel
May 2, 2012, 12:01 PM
People could listen to portable music for a really long time. I thought the big sell of the iPod was that you could take your entire music collection with you...No. The original iPod was a mere 5GB, it was only meant for syncing selections, playlists. It took a few generations to get comfortable amount of storage.

roto1231
May 2, 2012, 12:18 PM
I have an 80GB iPod Classic that primarily sayed in the car hooked to the kit I had installed into the car so I was able to take my music with me everywhere I drove or if I wasn't able to find a decent radio station. This was before I had my iPhone. Now if it is the case of not finding radio station I'll stream Pandora, or just pull from my music what is stored on the cloud with iTunes match. I think that is the direction that Apple is going when it comes to things. But, there is always the possibility of not having adequite service in the area which you reside or traveling through. I think the classic iPod is one of those devices that will always have a market even though it is becoming more of a niche' product which is interesting because it is the "1000 songs in your pocket" that started the whole "revolution" with Apple and how the world saw music.

HallStevenson
May 2, 2012, 08:49 PM
No. The original iPod was a mere 5GB... But how many songs could you get in 5gb of space ? Mind you, 128k was probably the common bitrate too, certainly not lossless, for example.

Menel
May 2, 2012, 08:54 PM
But how many songs could you get in 5gb of space ? Mind you, 128k was probably the common bitrate too, certainly not lossless, for example.

128kbps data rate? Is exactly half of 256kbps data rate of standard iTunes AAC today.

So it would be equivalent of a 10GB device today. The SSD iPods easily surpass this.

combatcolin
May 3, 2012, 06:43 AM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.

You could make that argument for ANY of the iPod Classics from birth to present day.

OllyW
May 3, 2012, 06:57 AM
You could make that argument for ANY of the iPod Classics from birth to present day.

I listen to music all day at work so a weeks listening (40 hours at 2MB/minute) would rip through all the music stored on the first 5GB iPod. :)

VI™
May 3, 2012, 08:33 AM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.

I only have about 60GB of music, but it's great having options. There's stuff on my iPod I would never listen to by choice, but if I go to parties, pool days, or I'm hanging out with friends, I like to have a choice of music for them to listen to as well. Not all my friends like what I want to listen to all the time and I'm OK with that because hanging out with a bunch of clones would be boring.

barredfreak
May 5, 2012, 08:21 AM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.

I listen to a lot of music and it has become a part of me. The size of my music does not necessarily mean I have a lot of music, it's just that all of my music is in the best possible quality, and that takes up a lot of space.

Definitely not daily or weekly, but I listen to more than half of the albums I have monthly. :)

gwelmarten
May 5, 2012, 12:02 PM
About...now

JBazz
May 6, 2012, 04:34 AM
Cloud storage and streaming just doesn't work for me. I learned this lesson with the Kindle Fire.

I want access to the TV, movies, videos, music and audiobooks when the mood hits me. Companies want to sell us on cloud services. But there are just too many times when I am without Internet. And those are the times when I NEED my content most.

I just purchased a classic and am loving it. Audiobooks are what drove me to buy one. I got sick of wanting to listen to a specific book, only to have to dig thru several devices to see if it was available. And if it wasn't, well then I had to find a wifi hotspot or sync with my Mac mini. Syncing/downloading a book can take upwards of a half hour or more. Just not for me.

iLog.Genius
May 8, 2012, 12:42 PM
I don't think it will be anytime soon. Well I hope it doesn't. Look, all this cloud stuff is cool and all for convenience but if you're not into that that stuff, the iPod Classic is still the best music player. The question of do you listen to all 160GB is irrelevant, it's about the ability to store and use your iPod in different environments.

WRP
May 8, 2012, 12:44 PM
It will be obsolete as soon as you have over 160GBs of music.

Bear
May 10, 2012, 04:22 PM
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i don't have a classic iPod yet, but i do need one for music.

when do u guys think it'll be obsolete? take in the fact that iTouch/iPad/iPhone takes hard disk space by getting apps and movies and such.
...It'll become obsolete when it can't do what it was designed to do.

Things that could make it obsolete:
The battery needs replacement and you can no longer get a replacement battery.
Not being able to play new music because it's in an unsupported format (for the iPod) and can't be automatically converted.
When you can no longer sync music to it with a computer you own.
Basically it will be a while before it's obsolete.

Giuly
May 10, 2012, 05:17 PM
i have an iPad 16 GB and a iPhone 64 GB.

No, you don't. :rolleyes:

OT: It will be completely obsolete when the 256GB iPod Touch hits the scene (which would be around the year 2025).

puma1552
May 10, 2012, 07:30 PM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.

Why would you ever not want to carry all of your music at once? If given a choice to carry it all at once, or to carry only a portion of it, who would really, consciously choose the latter? Not to mention the more and more music you have, the more and more utter hassle it is to try and pick and choose and sync.

Get one device that holds it all, put it all on there, and never worry about it again. Not a hard concept.

No. The original iPod was a mere 5GB, it was only meant for syncing selections, playlists. It took a few generations to get comfortable amount of storage.

And it also sold for much more than a much larger capacity iPod does today. At the time it was like a $500 device, and it was a LOT compared to carrying a CD and a Discman.

migdaddy
May 10, 2012, 09:49 PM
I have a black 120 gb and it just sits in a drawer. All I listen to is Pandora on my iPhone. I am a music freak too, but I like discovering new music and thats through Pandora. I get songs and bands I discover and find them on Spotify.

iLog.Genius
May 10, 2012, 10:36 PM
And it also sold for much more than a much larger capacity iPod does today. At the time it was like a $500 device, and it was a LOT compared to carrying a CD and a Discman.

I was one of those that purchased it at that price when the iPod first came to Canada - after taxes it was almost $600...In hindsight, one of, if not, the most stupidest purchase decision ever. LMAO

mrsir2009
May 10, 2012, 11:24 PM
There is nothing to go out of date. Basic music playback hasn't advanced all that much in the past few years. It's like a battery going out of date.

wiredup72
May 14, 2012, 10:09 AM
I just hope they update it within the next 6 months and don't kill the line off.

My library is 600gb and growing (all FLAC and completely lossless, sits on a RAID NAS). I would love to be able to load a complete ALAC library on it, but I don't think they could get that big at a reasonable price point.

At the least, I would like to compress my library to 392kbs on an iPod classic to use in my truck or when I travel.
I can serve my entire library from my own cloud on the NAS, but then it eats up my bandwidth on my iPhone.

sweetie81
May 14, 2012, 10:24 AM
I recently bought an iPod Classic as I just want to use the device for for what it was created. Listening to my music on the go and enjoying very good battery life at the same time.

I love to shuffle through my whole library and discover old or rarely played songs. For me it just does the job perfectly fine. They should keep it. It's too good to be dismissed.

propaintballa
May 15, 2012, 09:20 AM
I'm not going to judge your MASSIVE collection of music, but you can't tell anyone that you listen to all 250GB of it on a weekly or monthly basis for that matter.

Bit of a stupid statement to be honest... You could say that about a movie collection, you have it there so you can watch them whenever you want. I rarely listen to a whole album, I slap it on shuffle and then it goes through my whole collection.

I have like 90GB of music, all of which I do not listen to... But on a portable device that i'd take to parties and that other people listen to, it's very nice to have your whole collection in the even that you or someone else want to listen to it

daleremote
May 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
It will be obsolete when you can operate a touch screen without having to look at the screen, when you can keep your eyes on the road and click through a playlist, and when you can pause and play without removing it from a pocket.

Sjhonny
May 15, 2012, 11:10 AM
I doubt it will be obsolete anytime soon. I actually have two iPod Classics, because I have over 250GB of music. I hope Apple releases a iPod with a huge capacity soon.

next generation iPod touch will probably have 128 GB memory. That will probably make the Classic "obsolete". It's kinda strange that Apple keeps selling (exactly) the same product for nearly 3 years.

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It will be obsolete when you can operate a touch screen without having to look at the screen, when you can keep your eyes on the road and click through a playlist, and when you can pause and play without removing it from a pocket.

Siri/Voice-Over? Does the job pretty good, definitely for larger libraries ;)

daleremote
May 15, 2012, 11:24 AM
next generation iPod touch will probably have 128 GB memory. That will probably make the Classic "obsolete". It's kinda strange that Apple keeps selling (exactly) the same product for nearly 3 years.

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Siri/Voice-Over? Does the job pretty good, definitely for larger libraries ;)

I was thinking more of what I've heard called a haptic touch screen, in which a dynamic, changeable texture can be added to the touch screens. With that technology you could literally feel regions on the screen. Much better when operating the thing in class. ;-)

cambookpro
May 15, 2012, 01:47 PM
There is nothing to go out of date. Basic music playback hasn't advanced all that much in the past few years. It's like a battery going out of date.

http://videosom.com.pt/239-449-large/duracell-ultra-m3-2cr5-.jpg

Look at the bottom left!
At least that's just a 'best before' date, rather than a 'use by' date :p

barredfreak
May 16, 2012, 08:05 AM
[QUOTE=Sjhonny;14868978]next generation iPod touch will probably have 128 GB memory. That will probably make the Classic "obsolete". It's kinda strange that Apple keeps selling (exactly) the same product for nearly 3 years.[COLOR="#808080"]

Apple has definitely gone on to bigger and better things, but it's sad that they forgot about their iPod Classic. :(

ObsidianIce
May 16, 2012, 10:48 AM
I hope never. Actually I take that back. I hope it goes obsolete only because it's replaced by a larger iPod. I'm a music fan and a DJ, I have over 35k songs and growing. I would love a 300 gigabite ipod which is very doable. A 500 would be even better since it can be used as a mass storage device as well.

marcusj0015
May 16, 2012, 10:53 AM
Are they all MP3s or is it lossless? I have ~68GB's of lossless music, and I just have iTunes generate a 256kb AAC for my iPod... and it all takes like ~15GB when compressed.

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Why don't you simply install a bigger 1.8inch drive in your iPod, or hire someone to do it? I know it's possible...

Patriks7
May 22, 2012, 03:48 AM
I'm hoping not any time soon. I'm just about to buy one, moving to lossless music and my Nano is just too small... :D

ellaimac
May 22, 2012, 04:26 AM
I have 78 songs so ipod nano 5th gen is enough. 3k songs? You BLEW MY MIND!!!

rgarjr
May 23, 2012, 01:15 AM
If they keep ignoring the damn thing and wont update it, maybe it will be obsolete. :mad:

Confuzzzed
May 23, 2012, 01:38 AM
But on a portable device that i'd take to parties and that other people listen to, it's very nice to have your whole collection in the even that you or someone else want to listen to it

Don't share needles, maaaaaaaaaan

mrsir2009
May 23, 2012, 02:46 AM
Image (http://videosom.com.pt/239-449-large/duracell-ultra-m3-2cr5-.jpg)

Look at the bottom left!
At least that's just a 'best before' date, rather than a 'use by' date :p

Nah, battery technology, not batteries ;)

7enderbender
May 24, 2012, 08:19 AM
Like others have said: to me it will be obsolete once there is an iPod that stores a lot more than the current 160GB. That's about the size of my CD collection when going with mostly 128 compression. I'd like to be able to have all this in an uncompressed format one day and with a better headphone amp.

Even though the "modern" approach to all this tries to force us think in terms of "songs" I'm still an albums guy. And while we're at it: I wish there was a way to sort the albums of an artist in chronological order and not alphabetically. Ideally, I want everything on the iPod the way I have things on my CD shelfs at home.

ObsidianIce
May 25, 2012, 08:26 AM
Like others have said: to me it will be obsolete once there is an iPod that stores a lot more than the current 160GB. That's about the size of my CD collection when going with mostly 128 compression. I'd like to be able to have all this in an uncompressed format one day and with a better headphone amp.

Even though the "modern" approach to all this tries to force us think in terms of "songs" I'm still an albums guy. And while we're at it: I wish there was a way to sort the albums of an artist in chronological order and not alphabetically. Ideally, I want everything on the iPod the way I have things on my CD shelfs at home.

I couldn't agree with you more. Sometimes i's nice to just listen to how a band progresses. It doesn't seem like it would be all that hard for Apple to add multiple sorts. Maybe change the view options so that you can not only check them but drag and drop the sort options. I also DJ and the ability to sort something by genre, artist, Key then BPM...from directly within iTunes would be fanastic!

sinser
May 25, 2012, 01:50 PM
I'm an iPod classic fan. Not sure if they will ever update it or simply let it die, but for me it was one of the best electronic gadgets I've ever bought. Simple, beautiful, monotask, perfect.

kaielement
May 26, 2012, 12:31 PM
Cloud storage and streaming just doesn't work for me. I learned this lesson with the Kindle Fire.

I want access to the TV, movies, videos, music and audiobooks when the mood hits me. Companies want to sell us on cloud services. But there are just too many times when I am without Internet. And those are the times when I NEED my content most.

I just purchased a classic and am loving it. Audiobooks are what drove me to buy one. I got sick of wanting to listen to a specific book, only to have to dig thru several devices to see if it was available. And if it wasn't, well then I had to find a wifi hotspot or sync with my Mac mini. Syncing/downloading a book can take upwards of a half hour or more. Just not for me.

Yes I totally agree and that's why I love my iPod classic 160gb of storage. I have like 80 gb of music and like 20 movies and lots of room for my podcasts. I have limited internet at my house due to the nature of living in an area where I can't get unlimited data and I have a caped data plan on my iPhone and would rip through that way to fast it's not even funny. I love having all my music in my hand and not worrying about going over my data (unfortunately by the time I got a smart phone "iPhone" att didn't offer an unlimited plan). Any way I think the classic will be around for a while. We might not see an update for a while other then maybe a bigger hard drive but not totally gone. I think their are many people in similar situations and their is still a small market for the classic.

ATLCarGuy
Jun 5, 2012, 04:03 AM
I've had my 160GB Classic for three years, and could not imagine using anything else for my primary music device.

I only got the 16GB iPhone 4S because I knew that no matter how much memory it had, there wouldn't be enough space for my entire library.

I'd like to see a redesigned Classic in the near future, or a 128/256GB iPod Touch. That said, I don't want to pay $600 for all of that flash storage... :rolleyes:

iAppleseed
Jun 5, 2012, 05:40 AM
Who needs that kind of storage, anyway? Over time, the old albums won't be listened to anymore and just gets piled up. Even I am enough with 32 GB. And it's all ALAC.

JBazz
Jun 5, 2012, 07:06 PM
Who needs that kind of storage, anyway? Over time, the old albums won't be listened to anymore and just gets piled up. Even I am enough with 32 GB. And it's all ALAC.

I do. In addition to music, I have over many, many audiobooks. And hundreds of music videos. I am constantly needing to remove stuff on my iPad to download other stuff. That all takes time. With a 160gb device, I sync it all and never need to worry about what to remove to fit something else.