New Powerbooks and iBooks Next Tuesday?

[tsk]

There aren't and there will never be any new powerbooks / ibooks before the intel ones come out. Deal with it if you want one buy one now. Otherwise shut up and wait.

Geesh, someone's in the wrong thread.

[bemylover]

Can anyone tell me what is the restocking fee for a pb if i decide to return it after opening it?

also, i ordered a pb a week ago and it did not ship on time, and the order status changed from prepairing shipmnet to prcessing order. i called them and asked to ship it when they have it(the alternative was to cancel the order) after that i received my pb in 2 days, but it was shipped not from china but from tennessee.

does this, in any way, indicate that there is a new version coming?

[spellflower]

I for one am going to stand beside Spellflower on this one and believe they are coming out next week.

Thanks for the support (but if they don't come out, don't blame me- I'm just reporting what I know).

I've been waiting since May, and I'll be mighty happy if I get not only vindication for putting off my purchase, but a newly designed machine and a free ipod and printer rebate.

I'm currently 3.5 weeks through a 5 week summer term, and there have been a few times when I really could have used my own computer instead of having to hike to the lab. I decided to wait until mid August and then buy no matter what so I'd have time to learn OSX before school starts again in Sept.

This time it really does look like it's for real, though. My friend says that Apple told them to hold all their stock of ibooks so they don't have a mob of angry purchasers marching to their store torches in hand on the day of the update. I haven't tried it, but it would be an interesting test to call around and ask other non-apple retailers if they have ibooks in stock. If they say no, it might mean that they just aren't willing to sell what they do have until after the update to avoid unpleasant situations.

Also, according to my contact, Apple will likely give retailers checks to enable them to discount current stock (I don't know by how much). So even if you think the current ibook perfectly suits your needs, it might save you some $ to wait until the update.

As always, remember, these are just rumors. This site is called "Macrumors.com" for a reason. :)

Oh, and as for the existence of rumor sites, true, they probably would exist even if apple announced release dates, but I for one would care a lot less. I'm not as concerned with future products that might happen as I am with current ones that will certainly be recieving updates, such as ibooks. I'm obviously not as skilled a businessman as Steve (if I were I wouldn't be on this forum because I would be so rich I could afford to buy a laptop now and upgrade in a week if updates came out), but I don't think it would cause such a hoopla if apple just came out and said "We are (or are not) working on an update for the ibook planned to come out before the mactels." If they said they weren't, then we could all buy current stock and not worry, because we'd know it would be a while till they could design, test, and release something new. If they were, we could decide if it's worth waiting for or not. As for future products, who would blame apple for saying they were working on something but then never actually getting it to market? Would there really be more people upset about this than already are about buying an 8 mo. old computer two weeks before an update? I don't think so. IMHO it would be much more responsible of apple to let us know when to expect things, and to reduce prices of old stock toward the end of the cycle. It's not revolutionary, it's how most businesses do things. But what do I know, I'm just a consumer.

[tsk]

This time it really does look like it's for real, though. My friend says that Apple told them to hold all their stock of ibooks so they don't have a mob of angry purchasers marching to their store torches in hand on the day of the update. I haven't tried it, but it would be an interesting test to call around and ask other non-apple retailers if they have ibooks in stock. If they say no, it might mean that they just aren't willing to sell what they do have until after the update to avoid unpleasant situations.

So this friend doesn't work at an Apple retailer? This is a 3rd party company?

I'm sort of curious how the Apple store keeps it a secret. They no doubt have to get the shipments in a day or two in advance don't they? How do they keep it a secret from the employees? Seems like the day before an update, there should be a lot of info coming in.

[devilot]

So this friend doesn't work at an Apple retailer? This is a 3rd party company?

I'm sort of curious how the Apple store keeps it a secret. They no doubt have to get the shipments in a day or two in advance don't they? How do they keep it a secret from the employees? Seems like the day before an update, there should be a lot of info coming in.
I agree! I've worked retail (clothing and Sharper Image) and the managers get notified of how many pallets will be shipped/ brought in. Apple can't seriously keep that information away from the managers! They gotta make room for the stock in the back and/or have enough staff on hand to change out the inventory. But man, Apple sure is a pro when it comes to keeping their employees from blabbing.

[spellflower]

Yeah, he works at a 3rd party store that's been selling apple products since before "apple store" was a household phrase. I too wonder how the hell apple keeps its secrets, as my friend certainly wasn't required to sign any non-disclosure agreements when he took his job. It may be that the ibook is just so obviously due for update that the secret just isn't that valuable anymore. It's one thing to know the release date a month or two in advance, but it's another story when you find out a week before but don't even know the exact day.

[tsk]

Yeah, he works at a 3rd party store that's been selling apple products since before "apple store" was a household phrase. I too wonder how the hell apple keeps its secrets, as my friend certainly wasn't required to sign any non-disclosure agreements when he took his job. It may be that the ibook is just so obviously due for update that the secret just isn't that valuable anymore. It's one thing to know the release date a month or two in advance, but it's another story when you find out a week before but don't even know the exact day.

Well, I just called my local Apple retailer and they told me they had the iBook in stock. The person on the phone seemed enthusiastic about it too. Was kind of hoping to hear them tell me it's out of stock, new shipment on Tuesday or something.

[drake]

How does Apple keep secrets? With strongarm tatics.

[Steadmuffin]

Yeah, he works at a 3rd party store that's been selling apple products since before "apple store" was a household phrase. I too wonder how the hell apple keeps its secrets, as my friend certainly wasn't required to sign any non-disclosure agreements when he took his job. It may be that the ibook is just so obviously due for update that the secret just isn't that valuable anymore. It's one thing to know the release date a month or two in advance, but it's another story when you find out a week before but don't even know the exact day.

Is is 3rd party store located in the US? Just curious.

[AP_piano295]

It could be mid 2006 before the intel portables come out. You don't really think Apple would go 20 months without updating the ibooks, do you?

They could 9months in so far
:rolleyes:

[AP_piano295]

How does Apple keep secrets? With strongarm tatics.


By my count apple doesnt keep secrets least not very well it seems like think secret has unmasked every big release for the last ohhh 2 years without fail.

[spellflower]

Is is 3rd party store located in the US? Just curious.

Sorry, that would be telling, and I don't want to get too specific lest my source get outed.... just kidding. The store is a country bordering a country with a deciduous flag.

[ashon3611]

ThinkSecret: New iBook, Mac mini part numbers appear (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook2.html)

[devilot]

ThinkSecret: New iBook, Mac mini part numbers appear (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook2.html)
Fast find! Oooh, I'm getting so excited! The updates have to be here soon!

[Bowser]

are they going to update the 12' iBook as well?

[finalcoolman]

are they going to update the 12' iBook as well?

:rolleyes:

[ashon3611]

Fast find! Oooh, I'm getting so excited! The updates have to be here soon!

Yes im started to get excited, maybe as excited as when Jeff Kent hit the Game 5 NLCS walk off home run last year for the 'Stros. I almost cried. Ive been waiting along time. (I waited thur last year's cram & jam promotion w/ because of the possibility of G5PB's, but with Mactels coming out i came to the realization me waiting that long would be a bit crazy.)

[Bowser]

what i mean is, do you think they are going to make a widescreen 12' as well. im buying an 12' ibook regardless of update once i get my next pay check (two weeks). hopefully its updated by then, if not, i dont care. the only thing i would want is a better video card, and i guess widescreen if they did that to the 12'.

[bodeh6]

ThinkSecret: New iBook, Mac mini part numbers appear (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook2.html)

Finally the wait is over. Next Tuesday I am sure that their servers will be over loaded with orders for the new iBook. No more waiting for hundreds if not thousands. Hopefully the Powerbook update will not be far behind.

[Hattig]

what i mean is, do you think they are going to make a widescreen 12' as well. im buying an 12' ibook regardless of update once i get my next pay check (two weeks). hopefully its updated by then, if not, i dont care. the only thing i would want is a better video card, and i guess widescreen if they did that to the 12'.

My guess is that the superdrive is standard on both the new iBooks, and there are two sizes - 12" widescreen and 14" widescreen.

If the resolution is the same, I'll be getting the 12" widescreen, hopefully at 1280x768 or thereabouts.

If the resolution is different ... I don't know.

I'm very interested in the new line-up of Mac Minis though, I wonder what the differences will be.

Next week will be interesting for sure.

[thewhitehart]

Sorry, that would be telling, and I don't want to get too specific lest my source get outed.... just kidding. The store is a country bordering a country with a deciduous flag.

Is it in Greenland? St. Pierre and Miquelin Islands? Syria? Israel? Jordan? :D :D :D

[Red Belly]

Is it in Greenland? St. Pierre and Miquelin Islands? Syria? Israel? Jordan? :D :D :D

The cedar on the Lebanese flag is not deciduous.

Pedantically yours

rb ;)

[tsk]

By my count apple doesnt keep secrets least not very well it seems like think secret has unmasked every big release for the last ohhh 2 years without fail.

Well, except the Intel rumor.

[The_Man]

This is very exciting. There have never been more signs than there are now for an iBook update next week (tuesday probably). After waiting so long it is such a relief to finally get noticed by some of the rumor sites.
What sucks though, is that on tuesday I am leaving for out of town, and wont have access to a computer, so I dont know if I will be able to look at (hopefully) new ibooks online. O well, I guess ill just wait till I come back.

[Bowser]

i really hope this happens within the next two weeks. a widescreen super drive 12' would be beyond my expectation. i have been waiting all summer for this baby.

[tsk]

My guess is that the superdrive is standard on both the new iBooks, and there are two sizes - 12" widescreen and 14" widescreen.

If the resolution is the same, I'll be getting the 12" widescreen, hopefully at 1280x768 or thereabouts.

If the resolution is different ... I don't know.

I find it hard to believe the iBooks will get a superdrive standard when it's not standard on the PB yet.

But, I notice that the rumor is essentially stating no price drop (at least on the 12"). I think it's entirely possible that they will have added features as standard to make an "effective" price drop. Making BT standard, 5400RPM drives or Superdrives I guess would all fit that bill, so I guess maybe....

As far as a 12" widescreen, if they go with something like 1280x768, I wouldn't be disappointed. But if they go with 1024x600 or something, that would stink.

[Bowser]

I find it hard to believe the iBooks will get a superdrive standard when it's not standard on the PB yet.

But, I notice that the rumor is essentially stating no price drop (at least on the 12"). I think it's entirely possible that they will have added features as standard to make an "effective" price drop. Making BT standard, 5400RPM drives or Superdrives I guess would all fit that bill, so I guess maybe....

As far as a 12" widescreen, if they go with something like 1280x768, I wouldn't be disappointed. But if they go with 1024x600 or something, that would stink.

yeah thats what i was thinking, i doubt the SD will be standard. but then again, there is only two non BTO prices, so maybe it will be.

[The_Man]

i really dont think the SD will be standard either, because as someone said before, they are not even standard on the Powerbooks yet.
I think they are just going to put it in as a BTO option. I think by doing this, it will help keep the simplicity that apple strives for. When a comnbo drive and a super drive model are seperate at the buying screen the two different choices look almost exactly the same and for the average person, it would be difficult to distinguish between the two.

[bodeh6]

No SuperDrive standard. According to Think Secret it will just be a built to order option. This is what they should do with the 12" Powerbook too. Don't have seperate model number for the SuperDrive. This is smart on Apple's part. The iBook will have the Combo Drive standard with SuperDrive Optional. Maybe in the Powerbook revision they will have the SuperDrive standard on the 15 and 17 but not the 12.

[powerbook911]

No SuperDrive standard. According to Think Secret it will just be a built to order option. This is what they should do with the 12" Powerbook too. Don't have seperate model number for the SuperDrive. This is smart on Apple's part. The iBook will have the Combo Drive standard with SuperDrive Optional. Maybe in the Powerbook revision they will have the SuperDrive standard on the 15 and 17 but not the 12.

On the Powerbook, you need to have a standard configuration 12-inch, with Superdrive. Why? A lot of people buy Macs, from retailers other than Apple.com and Apple Retail Stores. These professionals need a superdrive, and they cannot go through Apple directly. I'm pointing this out, for I am one under this category.

[aussie_geek]

My guess is that the superdrive is standard on both the new iBooks, and there are two sizes - 12" widescreen and 14" widescreen.

If the resolution is the same, I'll be getting the 12" widescreen, hopefully at 1280x768 or thereabouts.

If the resolution is different ... I don't know.

I'm very interested in the new line-up of Mac Minis though, I wonder what the differences will be.

Next week will be interesting for sure.

Sorry - couldn't resist.

G5 mini next tuesday... :p

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4408/g5mini7aa.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g5mini7aa.jpg)

aussie_geek

[Majikthese42]

FWIW, shipping time at the Apple Store on the iBooks just jumped from "Estimated Ship: Same business day" to "Estimated Ship: 5-7 business days" tonight.......

[Mood]

what does that indicate?

[Majikthese42]

...it COULD mean that they don't want to have to deal with a bazillion unopened and returned iBooks if the update occurs within the next 5-7 days.

5 days would be...ummm.... NEXT Tuesday!

I'm no expert at reading tea leaves, but this looks awfully suspicious.

[TaKashMoney]

It indicates that the end of the great draught is nearly upon us....

[Mood]

Steve Jobs, thou has forsaken me for too long,
The drought can no longer belong,
The new iBooks are from beyond.


No More Drought:
http://www.the-human-race.com/images/environment/drought.jpg
"Oxymoron Drought"

[The_Man]

A collection of happiness.

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/07/20050719135700.shtml
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/07/20050721175208.shtml
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1193
http://www.macosxrumors.com/articles/2005/07/19/ibooks-imminent/
http://www.macosxrumors.com/articles/2005/07/21/ibook-and-mac-mini-updates-coming/
http://thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook.html
http://thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook2.html
http://macosrumors.com/
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71201/wo/c07DJle1wv8M3rOuZFI2mMDL7ah/0.0.11.1.0.6.23.1.1.1.0.0.0.1.0

[jmmdg6]

So, lets recap:

1) Various sites are saying that an Ibook update is very near.
2) Various people are saying that they know a person who works for Apple and knows the Ibooks will be updated next week. (or something close to this scenario)
3) The shipping time for a stock Ibook in the US store is now up to 5-7 days.

The only thing I am left wondering about is if the picture of the snowboarder that currently graces the background of each Ibook on the Apple online store will be changing. If it does, I wonder what it will be?

Maybe I should start a thread with the title "New Ibook background photo next Tuesday?" I'm sure the moderators would be happy with that one. :D

[MUCKYFINGERS]

So, lets recap:

1) Various sites are saying that an Ibook update is very near.
2) Various people are saying that they know a person who works for Apple and knows the Ibooks will be updated next week. (or something close to this scenario)
3) The shipping time for a stock Ibook in the US store is now up to 5-7 days.

The only thing I am left wondering about is if the picture of the snowboarder that currently graces the background of each Ibook on the Apple online store will be changing. If it does, I wonder what it will be?

Maybe I should start a thread with the title "New Ibook background photo next Tuesday?" I'm sure the moderators would be happy with that one. :D

ANother noob question, didn't want to start another thread with it, but, why is 5-7 days shipping time an indicator that an update is imminent?

[sw1tcher]

ANother noob question, didn't want to start another thread with it, but, why is 5-7 days shipping time an indicator that an update is imminent?

Because historically it has been that way. Plus, because the iBooks and Mac minis are due for an update, the 5-7 day wait strongly supports the theory that there will be updates.

[tsk]

...it COULD mean that they don't want to have to deal with a bazillion unopened and returned iBooks if the update occurs within the next 5-7 days.

5 days would be...ummm.... NEXT Tuesday!

I'm no expert at reading tea leaves, but this looks awfully suspicious.

5 Days is Tuesday, but 5 *Business* days is Thursday.

[RJD]

Anyone have a sense how much the discount is likely to be on the discontinued iBooks once the new ones are out?

Also, would the "Student Union" promo likely still apply to discounted/discontinued models?

[tsk]

Anyone have a sense how much the discount is likely to be on the discontinued iBooks once the new ones are out?

Also, would the "Student Union" promo likely still apply to discounted/discontinued models?

I would guess $50-100 drop on the current models.

And yes, the promo should cover it. Just read the rebate right now and I'd expect those terms and conditions to continue to apply (it would create quite a mess to make another rebate form). I would also expect that you can go and buy the discounted old model and use the rebate on it if you really like.

[sw1tcher]

Anyone have a sense how much the discount is likely to be on the discontinued iBooks once the new ones are out?

Knowing Apple, I'd say $100 - $200.

Also, would the "Student Union" promo likely still apply to discounted/discontinued models?

Yes. Probably? Not sure. :confused:

[devilot]

Also, would the "Student Union" promo likely still apply to discounted/discontinued models?
The rebate says: "This offer is not valid w/ the purchase of used equipment, reconditioned equipment, demonstration units, or refurbished equipment."

So I guess it just depends under which heading Apple would choose to place the current models.

[NICKLOS]

Just wondering if iBooks were released with a minor bump say a slight increase in CPU speed and a faster HD but same graphic card and same form(non-widescreen) ...would a lot of you out there still buy it or go the way of a PB? :confused:

[CoMpX]

FWIW, shipping time at the Apple Store on the iBooks just jumped from "Estimated Ship: Same business day" to "Estimated Ship: 5-7 business days" tonight.......

I am so excited that I could puke on my Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard right now!!! This was the final peice to the puzzle. now the iBooks will DEFINETLY be updated! YYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :) :) :p :p :p

[mjstew33]

I'm so excited, I really think the updates are here, this update may turn me around for an iBook instead of PowerBook, but hell, I think I'm still going to go with the PB.

[spellflower]

The only thing I am left wondering about is if the picture of the snowboarder that currently graces the background of each Ibook on the Apple online store will be changing. If it does, I wonder what it will be?

When I go to apple.com, either the regular product page or the ed store I see ibooks with blue streaks on their screens, not snowboarders. I'm not sure if I've ever seen snowboarders, come to think about it. I think there was some discussion about this some months ago, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

[CoMpX]

When I go to apple.com, either the regular product page or the ed store I see ibooks with blue streaks on their screens, not snowboarders. I'm not sure if I've ever seen snowboarders, come to think about it. I think there was some discussion about this some months ago, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

You must be talking about the product page in the Apple Store online. Yes, that does have blue streaks. But what we are talking about with the snowboarder is on apples website, click on the Apple tab, then click harware in the bar underneath all of the tabs. Then, click on iBook G4. that's where the snowboarder is. ;)

[Tahko]

Hallelujah!




Spamtastic!

[CoMpX]

Hallelujah!




Spamtastic!

LOL! what was that about??
:)

[Mood]

i would kick steve job's ass if all he did was update the ram to 512 and put 64 megs of video ram and that's it.

[tsk]

The rebate says: "This offer is not valid w/ the purchase of used equipment, reconditioned equipment, demonstration units, or refurbished equipment."

So I guess it just depends under which heading Apple would choose to place the current models.

You should be able to get the old models from your local Apple store at a discount and these should qualify while they last.

But I'd bet that the online store will stick them in the refurb section which would not qualify.

I guess if you think you want the cheaper ones, you better go to the Apple store within a day or two and get the discounted one.

[tsk]

Knowing Apple, I'd say $100 - $200.

I'd be real suprised to see $200 honestly. I guess if it was $200 that might be enough to make me pounce on one.

Last April when Apple released the iBook and PB together, I *thought* the drop on the iBooks was something like $50.

[CoMpX]

i would kick steve job's ass if all he did was update the ram to 512 and put 64 megs of video ram and that's it.

Actually, that's excatly what I was hoping for...plus at LEAST a 40GB HDD standard.

[CoMpX]

I'd be real suprised to see $200 honestly. I guess if it was $200 that might be enough to make me pounce on one.

Last April when Apple released the iBook and PB together, I *thought* the drop on the iBooks was something like $50.

I would be VERY surpirised at $200 off. The highest I can see is $100....MAYBE $125, but I highly doubt it.
:confused:

[Tahko]

LOL! what was that about??
:)
good rumours, thee mesiash for thö pipl is upcoming from the camp-usa of APLE!1!1 :p

[CoMpX]

good rumours, thee mesiash for thö pipl is upcoming from the camp-usa of APLE!1!1 :p

Someone, translation please?

[wrxguy]

My powerbook is everything i could have every hoped for and more...and with the apple education i got 300 bucks off and a free ipod mini....its the greatest thing ever :D

[JonMaker]

good rumours, thee mesiash for thö pipl is upcoming from the camp-usa of APLE!1!1 :p

What? Jesus is coming to CompUSA? I hope he brings iBooks.

Post coherently or go home.

[zflauaus]

This topic is basically becoming a line from "Spaceballs: The Movie." The scene I'm thinking of is when they're findind shelter and Lonestarr says, "One more dune to go." Then Barf says, "No, you said that three dunes ago." Replace "dunes" with "Tuesdays" and voila! :D BTW, I too am anxiously waiting the updates.

[Tahko]

What? Jesus is coming to CompUSA? I hope he brings iBooks.

Post coherently or go home.
Gzus ppl, stop acting so grave-seriously. I'm getting tired of the ********** waiting as well, and this current computer hums like a horny fighterplane or something... :D



Oh yeah, I forgot I'm the only atheist here and am not supposed to make funny connections to Jesus about anything. Sorry!

[nightdweller25]

I'm not even going to buy an iBook seeing as I already have the perfect machine for me but I am anxiously waiting for the updates too! :o

[a2cute2control]

On the Canadian Apple homepage, the ibook use to read 5-7 business days, now it read 3-5. So, either, there is an update this tuesday or canada was once really low on stock and they seem to be getting more now.

[JeffTL]

CAR ANALOGY WARNING! THE FOLLOWING TEXT CONTAINS CAR ANALOGIES!

ibook = older Japanese car, does everything you need it to do with very little trouble, and gets great gas mileage; powerbook = fancy italian sports car, goes really fast, handles like a dream, but sacrifices fuel economy and reliability.


Actually, the iBook is more like a new Ford than and old Honda -- unless you buy used. In fact, at the 12" size (which is directly comparable), the better car analogy is with the Ford Five Hundred and the Volvo S80; the Volvo is slightly smaller and fancier with a few more options, but they're both put out by the same manufacturer and yet are more different than nameplate engineering.

[lpshean]

I wish that the new iBooks are able to support Core Image. That'd allow us to get that ripple effect in Dashboard! I know many people find that overrated, but i love it. I never get tired of tinkering with that ripple effect at the Apple Store. Way cool.

[huy]

Apple Store is being updated right now... I wonder what's happening! :D

New iBooks anyone? ;)

[bdanielb]

any1 else notice the apple store is down? maybe its the ibooks???? :D

[bdanielb]

Apple Store is being updated right now... I wonder what's happening! :D

New iBooks anyone? ;)


another aussie hey? im in Sydney too... maybe all the yanks are sleeping? at least we'll get to see the new range 1st... lol

[TheSisko]

I wish that the new iBooks are able to support Core Image. That'd allow us to get that ripple effect in Dashboard! I know many people find that overrated, but i love it. I never get tired of tinkering with that ripple effect at the Apple Store. Way cool.

You mean you do it as a kind of game, or do you actually find it useful to constantly add and remove widgets from the dashboard?

[audiovox]

ohh yeah finally! the singapore store is down as well.

this could actually be it!

[tsk]

Apple Store is being updated right now... I wonder what's happening! :D

New iBooks anyone? ;)


Woohoo! New iBooks on Sunday :D :D :D .

I wonder if they're doing some pre-Tuesday maintenance. Make sure everything's ready for the big day?

[bdanielb]

Woohoo! New iBooks on Sunday :D :D :D .

I wonder if they're doing some pre-Tuesday maintenance. Make sure everything's ready for the big day?

pre-Tuesday maintenance.... do they do that?

anyways, i have my mastercard ready....lol

[solvs]

Noticed it was down. Mentioned it in the other thread. Do you guys really think they'll update tomorrow? I'm not even in the market for a new iBook, but I'm excited. God I'm such a geek.

[tsk]

pre-Tuesday maintenance.... do they do that?

anyways, i have my mastercard ready....lol

No clue. Just some crazy speculation on my part. I sort of doubt we'd see an update tomorrow. But if it happens, I'll be all over it. If there is a form factor change, I may want to go check things out at the Apple store first.

[huy]

I've got my brother's Mastercard ready too! I'll be buying the new iBooks (for another sibling). But this couldn't come at a better time (if true), university resumes tomorrow! :)

[tsk]

I'm just wondering if I should just go to bed. I mean I'm 92% certain there will be no update. But the sign says they'll be back within the hour. Within the hour can't be that long can it :) ?

[StkhlmSyndrm23]

i'm in the same boat...i really want to be surprised, but the reasoning side of my brain (as much as is possible at this hour) is telling me that there won't be an actual update...maybe i should just go to sleep, but i can't...

[bdanielb]

i'm in the same boat...i really want to be surprised, but the reasoning side of my brain (as much as is possible at this hour) is telling me that there won't be an actual update...maybe i should just go to sleep, but i can't...

well we have been dissappointed so many times waiting for the ibooks only to see the imacs and then ipods updated... but i think its time! its only an hour.... u mite as well hang around..... play solitaire or something or think of ways top raise the cash to buy one... lol

[MUCKYFINGERS]

holy *****!

but nah, i think tuesday is the day for the updates.

[tsk]

I think I'll leave you fools to your waiting. I'm off to bed hopefully to awake to some new iBooks. Have fun.

[StkhlmSyndrm23]

true. if the update is really happening at least we'll be among a relatively small few up at this time to know about it...haha

and no, no money at all to buy a new one if it appears. i just spent a lot replacing my stolen 3G 20gb iPod with a 30gb photo about a month ago...glad i got a 30gb before they axed it, it was such a good deal, especially with the edu discount...

[TheSisko]

true. if the update is really happening at least we'll be among a relatively small few up at this time to know about it...haha


Or, if you stopped and thought for a moment, you would realize that more than half the world is up and about at this moment (like here, where it's 10:41 AM).

[StkhlmSyndrm23]

Or, if you stopped and thought for a moment, you would realize that more than half the world is up and about at this moment (like here, where it's 10:41 AM).

being "awake" at 445AM = not thinking at my brightest... sorry for the america-centric logic.

[TheSisko]

being "awake" at 445AM = not thinking at my brightest... sorry for the america-centric logic.

Hehehe, understandable :p

[devilot]

The "hour" should be just about up, eh? Or maybe Apple's site doesn't expect people to take their words so literally?

[bdanielb]

The "hour" should be just about up, eh? Or maybe Apple's site doesn't expect people to take their words so literally?

i think its been more than 1 hour.... lol, yes im counting. hehe... but it feels so much longer when u have already been waiting months.... fingers crossed they are actually ibook updates... :confused:

[MUCKYFINGERS]

Store is back up. No iBook updates.

[huy]

Damn! :mad:

[bdanielb]

Damn! :mad:

damn. damn. damn. damn. damn.

maybe tuesday? :(

[Lacero]

Store is back up. No iBook updates.Damn! :mad:Did you really expect an iBook update on Sunday morning, when all the news outlets are closed?

[timmyb]

Did you really expect an iBook update on Sunday morning, when all the news outlets are closed?Do you really think that an iBook update will make the news? Sure it's important for us but not for news agencies. Something like the release of Tiger gets a mention, not a bump to a laptop line.

[CoMpX]

Do you really think that an iBook update will make the news? Sure it's important for us but not for news agencies. Something like the release of Tiger gets a mention, not a bump to a laptop line.

Yes, I do think it will make the news:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/22/technology/personaltech/apple_mac/index.htm

[lopresmb]

Do you really think that an iBook update will make the news? Sure it's important for us but not for news agencies. Something like the release of Tiger gets a mention, not a bump to a laptop line.

I agree, it will be really cool, but I doubt you'll be reading about it on the front page of any newspaper technology section anytime soon...but hopefully tuesday will be the day none the less :o

[tsk]

I agree, it will be really cool, but I doubt you'll be reading about it on the front page of any newspaper technology section anytime soon...but hopefully tuesday will be the day none the less :o

Actually, I that's kind of how I found out about the PowerMac update. I saw some headline that said Apple updates PowerMacs.... It was online (on the CNN frontpage as I recall) though, and I think that may be part of the distinction you're making.

[a2cute2control]

Since it is so widely reported that new hardware is coming and that the itunes/motorola phone is also going to be coming very soon, do you think that perhaps the annoucement could come tomorrow (monday)? Really, what places Tuesday as any more important, especially since apple pages have been going down and what not. Please kick off my week on a happy note. OF it's not released tomorrow, i hope there is new rumours suggeseting what to expect.

[CoMpX]

Since it is so widely reported that new hardware is coming and that the itunes/motorola phone is also going to be coming very soon, do you think that perhaps the annoucement could come tomorrow (monday)? Really, what places Tuesday as any more important, especially since apple pages have been going down and what not. Please kick off my week on a happy note. OF it's not released tomorrow, i hope there is new rumours suggeseting what to expect.

It just seems like Apple hasintroduced most of their updated on Tusday. There is still a good chance that the iBooks will be updated tomorrow. I'm hoping as soon as possible!!
:D :D

[Joeymon2]

I've been a silent daily reader of macrumors threads for the past 6 months and I finally thought it was time that I get involved. I'm in the same situation as every college student on this forum. I need to make the switch by buying an Apple notebook. I have put it on for too long. Back in the days of Mac OS 8 and 9, my family used macs but I was young and all I wanted was to play all video games, something macs could not provide, so I made an awful decision and bought a Dell. This computer has been my friend throughout high school, but it has always bothered me that I did not have the best. XP is most definitley not the best. I want the best. I want Mac OS X. So it's time to switch. As a result, I am stuck here bothered by the 3 problems that every other mac fanatic in my position is dealing with. ibook or powerbook, 12 inch or 15 inch, and of course should I wait for uptates or take advantage of the Student Union. All of this with a $2,000 budget. I dont expect any answers to this post becuase there really are few answers. This is one of the most common problems for a macrumors visitor to be plagued with. I just wanted you all to know that I'm here, I've been here, and I'm listening.

[gorbok]

It just seems like Apple hasintroduced most of their updated on Tusday. There is still a good chance that the iBooks will be updated tomorrow. I'm hoping as soon as possible!!
:D :D

Why do people keep saying that? If you look at the history of both iBooks and Powerbooks, they have only been updated on a Tuesday once, every other time was either a Monday or a Wednesday. I know that doesn't fit the thread, but it's true.
There, I said it.

[CoMpX]

Why do people keep saying that? If you look at the history of both iBooks and Powerbooks, they have only been updated on a Tuesday once, every other time was either a Monday or a Wednesday. I know that doesn't fit the thread, but it's true.
There, I said it.

Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry for posting false info.
:(

[tsk]

So it's time to switch. As a result, I am stuck here bothered by the 3 problems that every other mac fanatic in my position is dealing with. ibook or powerbook, 12 inch or 15 inch, and of course should I wait for uptates or take advantage of the Student Union. All of this with a $2,000 budget. I dont expect any answers to this post becuase there really are few answers. This is one of the most common problems for a macrumors visitor to be plagued with. I just wanted you all to know that I'm here, I've been here, and I'm listening.

My opinion is get the 12" iBook to last till the Intels are out. Then you can toss down the serious bucks and get a machine to last as long as you need. I view the laptop I'm about to get (the 12" iBook) as a stop gap till I can get nice Intel PB or iBook.

[AcousticDoc]

Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry for posting false info.
:(

So there's a better chance for the ibook to be released on monday tommorow!?!?!?!?!?!?!? JUICED!!!!!!!

[MUCKYFINGERS]

So there's a better chance for the ibook to be released on monday tommorow!?!?!?!?!?!?!? JUICED!!!!!!!

... or Wednesday.

[Mood]

i went to the apple store today (like 2 minutes before they closed), the guy said that 1) Apple employees at the Apple store don't receive any information about new products 2) he can't disclose any information if they do come out 3) he told me that honestly he doesn't know of any impending updates for this week


if they don't update them now, i would buy a dell and send steve jobs my pics (with an os x theme)

[tsk]

i went to the apple store today (like 2 minutes before they closed), the guy said that 1) Apple employees at the Apple store don't receive any information about new products 2) he can't disclose any information if they do come out 3) he told me that honestly he doesn't know of any impending updates for this week


if they don't update them now, i would buy a dell and send steve jobs my pics (with an os x theme)

I tend to believe this to an extent. If they are updating, there has to be a mysterious pallet of boxes covered with a tarp in some Apple store. I can't imagine that Apple is so on the ball that they can deliver this shipment Monday evening or Tuesday morning to every Apple store. I gotta believe there are some employees there who are aware of "inventory anomolies." But aside from that I don't think they get a special email saying: New iBooks Tuesday!

[tsk]

i went to the apple store today (like 2 minutes before they closed), the guy said that 1) Apple employees at the Apple store don't receive any information about new products 2) he can't disclose any information if they do come out 3) he told me that honestly he doesn't know of any impending updates for this week

BTW, you did this all wrong. What you need to do is wait till about 20 minutes after the store closes. Wait outside the employee entrance with a van and some of your buddies (ski masks may also help). Grab the employee as he leaves the building, toss him in the van and speed off. Then you can start asking questions.

For the humor impaired, that's a joke. I'm not advising kidnapping.

[devilot]

I tend to believe this to an extent. If they are updating, there has to be a mysterious pallet of boxes covered with a tarp in some Apple store. I can't imagine that Apple is so on the ball that they can deliver this shipment Monday evening or Tuesday morning to every Apple store. I gotta believe there are some employees there who are aware of "inventory anomolies." But aside from that I don't think they get a special email saying: New iBooks Tuesday!
That's what I said on... well, no longer sure which thread. But having worked retail it is IMPOSSIBLE that a manager would NOT know how many pallets are being brought in. Not to mention, there might be a necessity for extra "hands on board" to revamp the store displays and re-organize the stock room. So at least one or two people per store would know about updates at least a week in advance.

For the humor impaired, that's a joke. I'm not advising kidnapping. Haha, the sad thing is, you know that your disclaimer is a necessity. :D

[tsk]

Haha, the sad thing is, you know that your disclaimer is a necessity. :D

The sad thing is, some of us are just desperate enough for information to think about this.....

I just hope anyone that desperate would remember to post any info they heard :).

[tsk]

That's what I said on... well, no longer sure which thread. But having worked retail it is IMPOSSIBLE that a manager would NOT know how many pallets are being brought in. Not to mention, there might be a necessity for extra "hands on board" to revamp the store displays and re-organize the stock room. So at least one or two people per store would know about updates at least a week in advance.

I can believe the manager would keep his mouth shut, but I've got to believe you're going to get some standard employees running their mouth off.

I don't know that it will be a week in advance. I suspect a day or two in advance.

What happens on the morning of an update? If you walk into an Apple store out east, are they all set up with the new update? Or do they have to wait till it's announced to put stuff out?

[Mood]

i told the guy that there were strong rumors that there would be updates specifically a widescreen ibook and the guy gave me a lecture how these rumors sites are fake, and it's usualyl based on gossip and then i told him taht it was thinksecret.com hoping that he would know the name but nope, he's just another regular joe schmoe.


you know that backentrance of the apple store where the employees enter and exit? I was thinking of entering that room to see what's up, sneak in and see if they have anything new, hack into their database, etc etc.

[solvs]

For the humor impaired, that's a joke. I'm not advising kidnapping.
I would certainly hope so!

Everybody knows they don't have any inside knowledge anyway. :p

[groovebuster]

I knew the Airport performance on my PB G3 Firewire (Pismo) was excellent compared to others' Wintel laptops, but didn't realize how excellent until I got the PB G4. The PB G3 Firewire (Pismo) with an original Airport card has easily ten times better wireless reception both in distance and strength than my new PB G4 with an Airport Extreme card. I can take my PB G3 Firewire (Pismo) anywhere around my house inside or outside and get very good wireless signal. With my new PB G4 I essentially must be in the same room as the wireless transmitter. That really makes me mad, because what's the point of wireless if I can't be mobile?

My father-in-law had exactly the same problem wit his 14" iBook. It turned out that the little antenna cable wasn't plugged right into the Airport Extreme card and therefore he got only 50% of the normal reception. After plugging the cable firmly, it worked like a charm.

Maybe you should check that.

groovebuster

[Tahko]

Tomorrow the widescreen iBook!
Remember what Jobs said?! "New amazing PPC products!"
A mere bump on specs doesn't cound so amazing to me!
Huzzah!

[MalcolmR]

Tomorrow the widescreen iBook!
Remember what Jobs said?! "New amazing PPC products!"
A mere bump on specs doesn't cound so amazing to me!
Huzzah!
He actually said we've got a lot of great PowerPC products in the pipelineI'd be happy with widescreen, but I do wonder whether we're just getting our hopes up over something that's not going to be true.

[lizard79]

Tomorrow the widescreen iBook!
Remember what Jobs said?! "New amazing PPC products!"


Well - what else should he have said? "Only lame speed bumps for the next two years" and watch the apple stock hit the ground?!

I don't believe in a change of the form factor as an "silent update" on a tuesday.. Maybe we'll see a third type of notebooks, the "wideBooks" or however the marketing guys want to name ist, in Paris..

[Mood]

i have a bad feeling for tomorrow. we'll see when i get back home at 11 pm and then i stay awake til 4 am

since i created this thread, it is my duty to inform everyone when the new ibooks/powerbooks come.

[MUCKYFINGERS]

i have a bad feeling for tomorrow. we'll see when i get back home at 11 pm and then i stay awake til 4 am

since i created this thread, it is my duty to inform everyone when the new ibooks/powerbooks come.

As much as I want them to be updated, I have a feeling they won't be updated either...

[Jo-Kun]

As much as I want them to be updated, I have a feeling they won't be updated either...


I feel a new thread starting next tuesday: "new iBooks: next tuesday???" LOL

[aswitcher]

I feel a new thread starting next tuesday: "new iBooks: next tuesday???" LOL

:rolleyes: Maybe Apple are avoiding too much (anything) coming out in the holiday season.

[Tahko]

I don't believe in a change of the form factor as an "silent update" on a tuesday.. Maybe we'll see a third type of notebooks, the "wideBooks" or however the marketing guys want to name ist, in Paris..
Oh shutup! I like to hit the ground from high above the clouds once the slightly beefed iBook is released... :(

[Jo-Kun]

the all new iBook will be an empty shell and steve will be standing there with a big smile on his face and the screen at his keynote will say: BYOP... Bring Your Own Parts :p hahaha

anyway this thread has been fun (along with all the thousend other threads wandering around in the wasteland) but it's time to stop talking about what ifs... and just wait and see what tomorrow bring (aaargh I'm getting poetic here :p hahaha)

[CoMpX]

anyway this thread has been fun (along with all the thousend other threads wandering around in the wasteland) but it's time to stop talking about what ifs... and just wait and see what tomorrow bring (aaargh I'm getting poetic here :p hahaha)

Great point of view. I was just checking out iBooks and PowerBooks today in person, and I think that currently, the 12" PB is better bang for the buck. (for my needs anyway) I will probably get a 12" PB unless the updated iBook is a better deal.

So, for me. I think I will go PowerBook, but first I would like to see what the iBook updates bring.

[CoMpX]

Does anyone think that the PBs will be updated with the iBooks? Or maybe soon after? It doesn't seem like any of these rumor sites are talking about PBs, so maybe just a price drop if anything at all? Because if the new iBooks don't impress me, I'm goin PowerBook, baby! Yea!! :D But seriously, what do you guys think?

[drake]

Here's a plan, they drop the iBooks for now and give iBook prices on the Powerbooks. How's that?

If I was Steve Jobs, that is definately what I'd do.

[The_Man]

I really doubt that the powerbooks will change at all. They were updated in Feb.
and I think it might be a little longer (like a month?) until it is updated.
I dont feel that there will be a price drop in the Powerbooks either, but if there was, I wouldn't protest it.

Also, IMO, I think that the iBook is better bang for the buck. It is really close to the powerbook like in terms of speed (especially if there is an update) and the difference that exists really doesnt make it THAT much faster. Plus with the iBook you get things you can always get in a Powerbook like the wireless range and durability.
That is just my opinion, because n my situation, the iBook suits me best. For other people though, the Powerbook might be a better deal depending on what they will use it for.

[Fuchal]

Right now, all iBooks and Mac Minis have a wait time of 3-5 business days. All other products are within 24 hours.

[mjstew33]

I have about 4-5 weeks until I have enough money for a PowerBook 12" (in my sig).

I hope they are updated by then, as I have been saving since March!

I have like 1300 dollars and need 300.

[The_Man]

Is anyone here convinced that there will not be updates tomorrow?
I am just wondering because it seems like every person is convinces that there IS going to be updates tomorrow without a question.

I would assume that there will be considering Think Secret is almost never wrong, but then again, I can see myself waiting for the Apple website to go down and it never happen.
Thoughts?

[CoMpX]

Is anyone here convinced that there will not be updates tomorrow?
I am just wondering because it seems like every person is convinces that there IS going to be updates tomorrow without a question.

I would assume that there will be considering Think Secret is almost never wrong, but then again, I can see myself waiting for the Apple website to go down and it never happen.
Thoughts?

I have been thinking that as well. There are a lot of rumors and clues that suggest it will happen tomorrow, but I guess we'll just have to wait until tomorrow to see. If they don't update, PB for me, if they do update, about 60% chance that I will still get a PB. It all depends on what is realeased and if it is released! :eek:

[a2cute2control]

so no itunes phone....and not many other rumours floating around about the ibook, I think tomorrow may be a bust. But why is everyone talking about the site not being down...it's not even midnight yet...there still is time.

[skibum]

I just hope that a book that can span comes out before aug 5 so that I can get it tax free. I have been waiting a long time to buy my first mac, ever since i missed the tax holiday last year. I really want to be able to use it in dual screen mode with the 20" i am going to purchase with my new book. I have my money saved and my 7 year old dell may kick the bucket any day now, but I doubt it. I hope that apple can impress me.

[a2cute2control]

Is it just me or does all the hype seem to cheapen the ibook now? I would have glady bought one 4 months ago(my first mac), if a friend of mine didn't tip me to these type of pages, but after all this waiting and something coming and then it isn't, i don't know, i've lost interest sort of. Even of it gets released tomorrow, i'll still have to wait a bit. I think everyone should take a deep breath and not think about it for awhile. The watched pot never boils.

[kmaisch]

yes it can be a bad thinking looking at rumour forums if you plan to buy a new computer :rolleyes:

I bit the bullet and ordered a Powerbook. Even if it is "old technology" and so on... it's still a beaut machine, and it will serve its purpose well! Should have it this week! :)

[Mood]

Mood's log 12:04 am, no signs of an update yet, Negrodamus is telling me to wait a little longer tonight to see what comes up

[MUCKYFINGERS]

Mood's log 12:04 am, no signs of an update yet, Negrodamus is telling me to wait a little longer tonight to see what comes up

But the website is updated according to PST, right? That won't be at least for another 12 hours...

[53399]

---

[Mood]

http://members.aol.com/blackrose3000/images/negrodamus.jpg

Negrodamus says in order to prevent the stymying of sleep, watch Aqua Teen Hunger Force. (download them)

[MUCKYFINGERS]

Huh? There is only 3 hours difference between Pacific Time and Eastern Time.

Midnight PST would be 3AM EST.

Store is usually updated between 9 am PST and 5 pm PST if I am correct.

It's still too early.

[bodeh6]

Store up and running still. Should they be going down now.

[Mood]

Mood's log 1:44 am, no sign of impending updates yet.

[paperinacup]

Remember Apple is west coast so 1:45 to go.

[AcousticDoc]

Remember Apple is west coast so 1:45 to go.

I thought updates don't happen until 6am-9am. What is suppose to happen at midnight?

[berkleeboy210]

I thought updates don't happen until 6am-9am. What is suppose to happen at midnight?

Earliest you'll see updates is 530am PST. Just check the Buyer's Guide and you'll see the pattern of the times all in the same vecinity.

[finalcoolman]

I can CONFIRM an iBook update tommorow (tommorow as in Tuesday). I called Apple earlier, spoke to a representitive named XXXXXX. After talking to him I got him to spill the beans. IBOOK UPDATE TOMMOROW for SURE!!!! GUARANTEED!!! Since he spilled the beans I thought of posting his extension (so he can get more sales from MR members as a reward for spilling the beans) but ended up not incase he may get in trouble. Peace out and know you can sleep safely tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Additions: Per representative, iBooks will be standard with Bluetooth. No comment about screen sizes. Updated iBooks will have a shipping time of 3-5 business days. Didn't ask about iMacs or Powerbooks (too excited with iBook histeria). Representitive is off for the day so no more info from him tonight :(

[berkleeboy210]

I've been saying that July 26 will be the day for the past 3 weeks now. Hopefully my prediction will come true.

[benthad]

This has to be it.

The UK Apple store is saying:

We are busy updating the store for you and will be back within the hour.

[Jo-Kun]

only the us & canada store are still working :p

be patient :p

[icarusflies]

Perhaps....
Brand new ibooks in the UK and Europe.
US store going to be selling off old stock.:p

Hell could even be the itablet - europe only.

Suspect it could be the Cram and Jam offer

Whatever it is it must have a few extra pages to be down this long

[Jo-Kun]

so its another 'speedbump'... ok you get 512mb ram standard... slightly faster processor, scrollpad, bigger HD options... but not such an amazing update... except when you compare prices with the powerbooks :p

anyone just bought a 12" Powerbook today??? kept the receipt??? lol

[Tahko]

It still has 32mbit vram, but it's ATi 9550 now. Supports Core image!

[drake]

Looks like a tiny improvement. Video doesn't seem to have been improved at all.

[Jo-Kun]

so

as I said before

faster (a little) Processors
more ram on board
bigger HD options

really new:
scrollpad
coreimage capable graphics
BT2.0
anti-shock-system
(wich are all PowerBook things anyway)

no world shocking update... (except when you just ordered your 12" PowerBook... because ok the iBook is just a little slower on the proc side... but can have 256MB more ram and is much cheaper... hehehe) so for someone who needs just portable power, no gaming, no screenspanning... forget all about the 12" Powerbook right now :p

[Cue]

I think ppl who should be more *pissed off* at this update should be the "just a pBook owner" ones.

[mca2]

Bastards! The old iBook already used to be 999,- euro (equals $1200) compared to the US $999,-.

Now they've even increased the price of the new iBook to 1039,- euro whilst the US price is still $999. 1039 euro that's nearly $1250! I can almost get an iBook cheaper by flying to New York and buy my iBook there.

[Jo-Kun]

I think ppl who should be more *pissed off* at this update should be the "just a pBook owner" ones.

so how much time has passed since the last Pb update??

I mean... they need to be updated too quite soon or nobody will buy one... unless you want/need a 15"/17" DVI 2GB ram FW 800 screenspanning...

I think this will kill Pb12" sales for a while (ok except when you need a SDrive in it and don't want to go for a 14" sized system...) because 0,17Ghz faster is no sales argument :p

[ITASOR]

It still has 32mbit vram, but it's ATi 9550 now. Supports Core image!

Really? I have to go read the site better!

[Tahko]

Really? I have to go read the site better!
I think it does... why the hell they would put just another 32mbit video-card if that wouldn't be the case?

[devilot]

Can anybody say how much the iBooks weigh? The same, huh? :confused:

[Cue]

In case u missed it, ram has been upgraded to PC2700

[Zman5225]

Can anybody say how much the iBooks weigh? The same, huh? :confused:

Size and weight (12.1-inch model)

* Height: 1.35 inches (3.42 cm)
* Width: 11.2 inches (28.5 cm)
* Depth: 9.06 inches (23.0 cm)
* Weight: 4.9 pounds (2.2 kg) (1)

Size and weight: (14.1-inch model)

* Height: 1.35 inches (3.42 cm)
* Width: 12.7 inches (32.3 cm)
* Depth: 10.2 inches (25.9 cm)
* Weight: 5.9 pounds (2.7 kg) (1)

took that from the tech page


on edit, stores up.


*Z

[Jo-Kun]

the iBook is allso a little more expensive now...

we the euro-guys are ****ed anyway... iBook 999 usd -> 737,71 euro
and here it costs... 1059 euro (1434,10 USD)... thats a difference of 321,29 euro (435,10 USD)!!! I can go to the US buy one there, fly back and get the belgian powerplug for the price if I buy it here, and I will have a nice trip included

same with the Mac mini basic model in euro: 538,99 (729,90 USD) and in the us: 499USD (368,48 euro) pricedifference: 170,51 euro (230,90 USD)

I didn't realised that shipping those macs to europe was that expensive???

[Chef Medeski]

It seems like the iBook just beat the Powerbook in one aspect. Well, besies price. The iBook comes iwth one stick of 512, while the Powerbook comes with two 256 sticks. The iBook has a bigger RAM capacity in 12" form. :eek: :eek: :eek:

How did they let the Powerbook sink so low.........

[bodeh6]

Now one must decide on the 12" Powerbook and the 12" iBook. iBook now has a better GPU (ableit less RAM) and 512MB of soldered on RAM instead of the Powerbook having 256MB soldered on + 256MB taking up the one and only memory slot. The Powerbook still has a faster harddrive, Processor, Bus, and RAM.

Comparing the video cards

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/955055005200/index.htm

[Tahko]

I didn't realised that shipping those macs to europe was that expensive???
It isn't.. but in Amerikka they have to count value tax on their purchases themselves, which makes margin between their & our prices smaller. I bought my iPod mini from there, and saved just 20 euros ($199 =? €170). Add tax, and I got it for 186 euros.

[Jo-Kun]

oh and to give the right price comparison... since the US price is excl taxes:

iBook excl taxes in belgium (converted to USD) 1185,21 still +186,21 ;-)
mac mini excl taxes (allso converted to usd) 603,97 still +104,97

taxes are 21%

[Yossarian]

Well my iBook-hungry friends our journey has come to an end. I've just ordered a 12" with Tucano sleeve thingy and am quite innordinately happy, almost dizzy with anticipation (or was that the 2 pints at lunchtime...). It's not a huge update but it was well targeted, RAM, bluetooth, HD and a sprinkle of seasoning on the CPU.

All that needs to happen now is for the wonderful men and women of TNT UK shipping to not screw up like they have done with every other apple order and actually bring the hallowed box to my humble abode. I require no fanfare, a simple van shall suffice though if a horse-drawn carraige were to become available it would be most appreciated.

It's been... real ;)

[Tahko]

oh and to give the right price comparison... since the US price is excl taxes:

iBook excl taxes in belgium (converted to USD) 1185,21 still +186,21 ;-)
mac mini excl taxes (allso converted to usd) 603,97 still +104,97

taxes are 21%
we europeans have to pay that much extra because EU has (at least had) some tariffs against US, thanks to US-steel subsidies. This still hasn't been settled in WTO, I'm afraid?

[Jo-Kun]

we europeans have to pay that much extra because EU has (at least had) some tariffs against US, thanks to US-steel subsidies. This still hasn't been settled in WTO, I'm afraid?


hmm that's why they added the 'spend wisely' slogan :p haha

[Jo-Kun]

It isn't.. but in Amerikka they have to count value tax on their purchases themselves, which makes margin between their & our prices smaller. I bought my iPod mini from there, and saved just 20 euros ($199 =? €170). Add tax, and I got it for 186 euros.


Yes I know if you do it the official way you allso have to pay 25% import taxes on it here in belgium...

wich makes the price of the imported iBook-> 922,13 euro wich still is a 136,87 euro difference If I don't make thinking errors here ;-)

but if you are (like me) a buisness the 21% can be deducted, and I'm not sure how that works on imported stuff... if I can deduct the 25% import tax.. don't know.. so for me if I can't do that there will be no advantage in buying it in the US but for other people it still is (if you travel there anyway... otherwise its probably stupid just to fly there to buy it :p)

[iDM]

It seems like the iBook just beat the Powerbook in one aspect. Well, besies price. The iBook comes iwth one stick of 512, while the Powerbook comes with two 256 sticks. The iBook has a bigger RAM capacity in 12" form. :eek: :eek: :eek:

How did they let the Powerbook sink so low.........

It sank so low because over the past couple years the "updates" have been so so horribly minor

[hatteras]

Finally I can get my first Mac! However, I’ve got an ethical question: in the fall, I will be going back to school and want to take an iBook with me. Unfortunately, the school I will be attending is overseas, and is not eligible for an edu discount. However, in fall 2006, I will be enrolling in an edu-eligible US university. Of course, I can’t wait until then to buy my laptop, so would it be unethical of me to have my sibling, who is currently enrolled in an ‘edu’ University, buy my iBook for me? Thanks.

[i-Apple]

i just ordered the new ibook so happy :D:D:D:D
theres just one thing i dun get, wat is the country kit? its added as part of the ibook package

[huy]

Just ordered mine yesterday. (It is now Wednesday 2.30am in Australia). Sadly, it's not for me, but for my brother. We're upgrading it to 1.5GB not via Apple of course, Corsair DDR400 (though the iBook is 333).

It's a shame my 12" PB Rev. D did not come with 512MB built-in but rather 256+256. I have 768 in this machine but it's still "better" than the iBook I've just ordered. Also upgraded the baby to 80GB so it's BTO, taking a few more days to arrive. It should be here next week or 'on or before' 10th August. :cool: I'm very happy that Apple have used one DIMM of 512MB and have included things like SMS and two finger scrolling (though I know it is just a driver). Well done on this upgrade!

[spellflower]

I told you my guy wouldn't lead us astray! God, it feels like a dream, I can hardly believe it's finally here. I seem to remember posting some months back that I'd buy the updated ibook even if it was the same as the old one but with a racing stripe on the back. Since I was pretty much decided on buying one update or not, I'm delighted to get what we got. The old ib would have sufficed for my needs, but this one will continue to do so longer (graphics wise, plus I can now afford more memory, and it will survive more falls, not that I ever intend to let it fall). The only thing I was really hoping for that we didn't get was a mini input. WTF? Every PC notebook has one, and it's only technology that is older than almost every other component of the ibook! I guess they probably are still using the old casings though, and a new input will reuquire a redesign. Oh well, I'm certainly not paying $500 for such a feature on a pb, and I can always get a USB box that will do the same thing better anyway.

All in all, a great day. I just wish MA tax free day was sooner than 8/13. Anyone know how long it takes from placing an order for an ibook w/80g hard drive until it arrives?

PS: if anyone's in Western MA, let me know, we can go celebrate!

[gorbok]

I've been coming to this, and the former "New iBooks Next Tuesday?" thread (R.I.P.), for months and months. Not to mention waiting for the update for so many months.
I would just like to say Yippeee, they're finally here!
But I'm not all that impressed, think I'll wait for the next updates. When are updated powerbooks expected? Next tuesday I guess.....

[Mood]

and thus the thread continues (i was clever enough to make the name of this thread ibook/powerbook next tuesday??? so that when the ibook comes out, we then gotta know when the powerbook comes out, and then over and over again!!!! SUCCESS!!!!!!!!)

[martin1000]

All in all, a great day. I just wish MA tax free day was sooner than 8/13. Anyone know how long it takes from placing an order for an ibook w/80g hard drive until it arrives?

I just ordered the new 12" with 80g hard drive. The order status shows shipping on or before August 2.

[finalcoolman]

Yay, just ordered my brand new 12" stock iBook. SOOOOO HAPPPPPPYYYYY. Ofcourse I rewarded the guy who spilled the beans to me yesterday (all info 100% accurate he gave me) with a nice eassssyyyyy laydown sale of the iBook and a iPod Mini as his reward!!!!!

[kmaisch]

I don't think this will affect the sales of Powerbooks much (apart from maybe the 12"). I am still happy I ordered a 17" powerbook :)

Also, thinksecret says the new 32mb video in the new ibooks does not support core-image?

Anyone know the bus speed of the new ibooks?

Kim

[AcousticDoc]

Also, thinksecret says the new 32mb video in the new ibooks does not support core-image?

There's multiple threads about how the 9550 is just a slower 9600. It should suport core-image...I hope

[timmyb]

Having waited for so long, I was so happy to put in the order, (see my sig.) It's just a pity the "New iBooks Next Tuesday?" thread didn't last to see the great day.

[AP_piano295]

Just ordered mine yesterday. (It is now Wednesday 2.30am in Australia). Sadly, it's not for me, but for my brother. We're upgrading it to 1.5GB not via Apple of course, Corsair DDR400 (though the iBook is 333).

It's a shame my 12" PB Rev. D did not come with 512MB built-in but rather 256+256. I have 768 in this machine but it's still "better" than the iBook I've just ordered. Also upgraded the baby to 80GB so it's BTO, taking a few more days to arrive. It should be here next week or 'on or before' 10th August. :cool: I'm very happy that Apple have used one DIMM of 512MB and have included things like SMS and two finger scrolling (though I know it is just a driver). Well done on this upgrade!

Why does apple charge such an obseen amount for extra ram... :mad:

[solvs]

Why does apple charge such an obseen amount for extra ram... :mad:
All of them do. Sometimes you get a deal at Dell for more RAM, but look at how much they charge for it without those "specials". It costs more for them to configure a device vs. a standard config, even with the discount they get on bulk purchases. You are paying for labor and parts. And often they pay a set price, so when prices fall, it takes awhile for everything to be updated to match the newer prices.