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DarkNetworks
Jul 12, 2005, 05:11 AM
What would u recomend?
iPod or iPod Mini.



mad jew
Jul 12, 2005, 05:21 AM
How much music have you got? How much do you intend to carry with you?

Capt Underpants
Jul 12, 2005, 07:14 AM
Right now I have a first generation blue iPod mini, and I am being very tempted by a new 20 GB color iPod.

Ask yourself these questions:
(1) How much music do I have?
(2) How much will my library expand in the next year?
(3) Would I only use the iPod for music, or would I also use it as a portable external HD?
(4) Am I content with a grayscale LCD?
(5) Will the extra 3 hours of battery life on the mini make a difference?

DarkNetworks
Jul 12, 2005, 08:29 AM
Icic...thankyouverymuch...i think i'll pretty much consider going with the iPod... :)

Capt Underpants
Jul 12, 2005, 08:36 AM
Icic...thankyouverymuch...i think i'll pretty much consider going with the iPod... :)

No problem, man. I hope you enjoy your iPod!

cleanup
Jul 12, 2005, 08:37 AM
The iPod has so much going for it - the cleaner looks, the larger colour screen, the larger capacity, but it's just too fragile. My iPod mini is the most robust piece of gadgetry I've ever owned. The adonized aluminum shell never cracks, gets scratched, or break. In upcoming 5G iPods, Apple needs to ditch the crappy two-piece shell of the iPod (the plastic and stainless steel back scratch far too much, and the back also dents very easily) and expand the adonized aluminum across the entire iPod line. When I hold a regular iPod in my hand it feels like it could fall apart if I dropped it two feet onto a pillow. The iPod mini, however, is strong and solid. I've dropped mine numerous times. The worst I've gotten is a tiny, miniscule chip in the aluminum on the corner. Had I dropped a regular iPod in the same circumstances onto its corner, the metal backing would be dented, and the white plastic around the front would be cracked.

I'd go with a 6GB mini for now, until the 5G iPods come out.

jayscheuerle
Jul 12, 2005, 09:59 AM
Volume wise, the iPod Mini over twice as small as the 20 gig iPod and you'll notice this if you carry it around in your pocket like I do.

I have 38 gigs of music at home, but the 5 that the Mini holds is more than plenty for the trips I take.

I only look at the screen to pick a playlist or shuffle it and that's it. Sometimes I play solitaire while I'm waiting for someone or riding the train.

Rock solid. Accidentally chucked it out of my pocket and onto the sidewalk. Dinged the corner, but that's about it. Still looks great.

If you DO run, the size difference is GIANT, though I'm sure a Shuffle's even better for that.

- j

ravenvii
Jul 12, 2005, 10:59 AM
I'm debating over the same question. I haven't decided yet :) The iPod mini will hold plenty of songs for my needs, but the regular iPod is plenty small IMO - I used a 3G iPod, and thought it's amazing. I've never seen an iPod mini in person, though. The color screen is tempting, and I have a feeling I might like the bigger size better. I might be wrong, though.

Just wanted to note that the color screen iPods are considered by Apple as 5G. So I don't think you should wait for a "5G" iPod, since it's already out.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Jul 12, 2005, 11:12 AM
Another vote for the mini. It's just much more robust than the regular iPods. I just sync my favorite playlists, and even if the mini typically just hold ~700 of the 10.000 tracks in my iTunes library, I've never gotten in a situation where I wished to hear a song that wasn't on the mini.

DarkNetworks
Jul 12, 2005, 11:12 AM
btw, is there any difference between the touchpads?which one's better?

taeclee99
Jul 12, 2005, 11:13 AM
btw, is there any difference between the touchpads?which one's better?

The touchpads are exactly the same.

jayscheuerle
Jul 12, 2005, 12:33 PM
I've always appreciated the industrial design behind the tight little Mini and often found myself wishing each color had distinguishing ear-buds, so that I could pick out the Mini wearers in the seas of white buds I see on the streets...

Capt Underpants
Jul 12, 2005, 02:40 PM
I've always appreciated the industrial design behind the tight little Mini and often found myself wishing each color had distinguishing ear-buds, so that I could pick out the Mini wearers in the seas of white buds I see on the streets...

Ya that's a great idea!

Colorware currently paints the iPod's headphones for an additional $10 (catch is you have to buy an iPod painted too), and they look pretty pimp...

Go here (http://www.colorwarepc.com/products/customize.aspx?configid=654) and click on "view details" beside iPod earbud headphones for an example of their work.

GanChan
Jul 12, 2005, 02:43 PM
Ya that's a great idea!

Colorware currently paints the iPod's headphones for an additional $10 (catch is you have to buy an iPod painted too), and they look pretty pimp...

Except that i would automatically throw the stock headphones away and use real headphones instead.... :)

Capt Underpants
Jul 12, 2005, 02:50 PM
Except that i would automatically throw the stock headphones away and use real headphones instead.... :)

meh... The iPod earphones are good enough for me. I bought a nicer pair of headphones, but they were alot bigger, and I don't feel like carrying them around. I also looked into some in-ear etymotics (because they are small) but I couldn't justify $120 on headphones. I guess im not much of an audiophile.

Besides, we all know to be cool you have to wear the stock headphones ;)

cleanup
Jul 12, 2005, 03:19 PM
I love looking at the Colorware iPods. Apple needs to make a white version of the iPod mini.

I've always appreciated the industrial design behind the tight little Mini and often found myself wishing each color had distinguishing ear-buds, so that I could pick out the Mini wearers in the seas of white buds I see on the streets...

You forgot the light grey ring around the earbud. That should also be coloured. :)

Capt Underpants
Jul 12, 2005, 03:21 PM
I love looking at the Colorware iPods. They need to make a white version of the iPod mini.

They do. It's called "smoke".

cleanup
Jul 12, 2005, 03:23 PM
They do. It's called "smoke".

By "they" I meant Apple. Sorry. I've edited my post. :)

Capt Underpants
Jul 12, 2005, 03:25 PM
By "they" I meant Apple. Sorry. I've edited my post. :)

Oh ok. I was thinking to myself, "Damn... he's lookin at the colorware page and doesn't see the white color???"

MmmPancakes
Jul 12, 2005, 03:32 PM
As a general rule, and some of the best advice you can get about ipods is "buy the most you can afford." I struggled with the ipod vs. mini question for a long time, and consulted lots of friends and colleagues. The bottom line is you will eventually run out of storage capacity, so get the most bang for your buck. Is there any chance you'll want to use your iPod as a file storage device? This is a big question that you need to answer, also. My vote for you is the 20 gb.

Diatribe
Jul 12, 2005, 04:08 PM
I just bought a 20GB.

My reasons were that I actually can put half of my library on there, which will help a lot on long trips I'll take and not having to regularly re-sync it (like I need to with my Shuffle) is another plus. The size difference is small, I checked that out in a store (I really do think it makes not much of a difference but your mileage may vary).
The thing that won me over was the included charger that comes with it. All in all the better deal.

QCassidy352
Jul 12, 2005, 04:46 PM
I'm debating this. I have a shuffle, which is worlds better for running/working out (I've tried all three), and when I get my new laptop for school I'll be using the current promo to get either a free mini or a very cheap full size ipod. I probably only need a mini, but the new color 20 GB ipod is so sexy.

dmw007
Jul 12, 2005, 04:57 PM
I say go for the iPod Mini- its lightweight, small form-factor, great battery life, etc...

AlmightyG5
Jul 12, 2005, 08:06 PM
I'm debating this. I have a shuffle, which is worlds better for running/working out (I've tried all three), and when I get my new laptop for school I'll be using the current promo to get either a free mini or a very cheap full size ipod. I probably only need a mini, but the new color 20 GB ipod is so sexy.

I'm in the same dilemma...I can use to Student Union promo and get an awesome silver iPod Mini...But i keep telling myself that its a steal to get the iPod color 20gb for only 90 bucks more! idk...Do you guys think that i should just settle with the iPod Mini or get the 20 Gb. I would like some space on to iPod for storage of other files and $90 compared to $269 is a big difference, thats why i think i should jump on this deal while i have the chance.

doctor pangloss
Jul 12, 2005, 08:13 PM
I've had 40G clickwheel model for 18 months and it's almost full. Battery life is notthing to write home about nor is the display which is hard to see. The case also scratched up very quickly and I tried to be nice to it.
I saw the 60G Ipod photo and that display looks light years better.
I'm tempted to buy a mini also just for carrying around.
My Ipod is a little heavy and I'm very afraid of dropping it.
I'm considering a 60G iphoto and an ipod mini. And just leaving my 40G Ipod as extra backup. And maybe an Ipod shuffle. More is better. ;)

DarkNetworks
Jul 12, 2005, 08:39 PM
I'm in the same dilemma...I can use to Student Union promo and get an awesome silver iPod Mini...But i keep telling myself that its a steal to get the iPod color 20gb for only 90 bucks more! idk...Do you guys think that i should just settle with the iPod Mini or get the 20 Gb. I would like some space on to iPod for storage of other files and $90 compared to $269 is a big difference, thats why i think i should jump on this deal while i have the chance.

Yeah pretty much the same situation here...

mashinhead
Jul 12, 2005, 09:53 PM
What would u recomend?
iPod or iPod Mini.


I had a mini from before, and just bought a powerbook and got another one for the cram and jam deal. I use on for music and one for podcasts. The only reason i took it is cos you have to pay for it and wait for the rebate, and since i had one already i was really just taking it cos it was free.

I say go mini, why....simple Battery life is the best of ANY ipod product. And they'll be updating them soon, maybe for back to school. 60 gigs are for backups of entire libraries, or for those forced in to exile to sicily. 6 - 8 gigs gives a long and good selection. and a portable size. Best balance of all the ipod offerings. And i have owned them all at one point or another.

ravenvii
Jul 12, 2005, 10:12 PM
I think I'm going to get the mini now... I have a feeling Apple is coming out with a new uber-iPod this fall - iPod video maybe? - and then I'll be really tempted to buy one once they drop below $300. If I buy a iPod w/ color screen now for $300, I'd want it to last me at least 3 years. With the mini, I won't fridget if it only lasts me a year... much. :)

Diatribe
Jul 12, 2005, 11:35 PM
I think I'm going to get the mini now... I have a feeling Apple is coming out with a new uber-iPod this fall - iPod video maybe? - and then I'll be really tempted to buy one once they drop below $300. If I buy a iPod w/ color screen now for $300, I'd want it to last me at least 3 years. With the mini, I won't fridget if it only lasts me a year... much. :)

They will update the minis before the regular iPods. You'll see. The only thing that might happen is that they introduce another top of the line iPod as they did with the photo. The rest is gonna stay for a while.

For people with a shuffle... there is no real need to get a mini. If I want to go light and only take a couple of albums with me I take my Shuffle. I find the 6GBs to be limited.

ravenvii
Jul 13, 2005, 12:38 PM
They will update the minis before the regular iPods. You'll see. The only thing that might happen is that they introduce another top of the line iPod as they did with the photo. The rest is gonna stay for a while.

For people with a shuffle... there is no real need to get a mini. If I want to go light and only take a couple of albums with me I take my Shuffle. I find the 6GBs to be limited.

Umm that's what I meant by iPod video this fall. You did notice that Apple always puts the sub-name in small caps? It's iPod photo, not iPod Photo, it's iPod mini, not iPod Mini, and it will be iPod video, not iPod Video.

And I'm fully aware that the miniss will most likely be updated close to MWSF 2006, and then the regular iPod in the summer. My point is, when the iPod video (or whatever) becomes the regular iPod like the iPod photo did, in the summer, it will likely drop to $300 or so, and then that's when I'll probably buy. And that's a year off right? I don't want to buy an iPod photo now for $300 only to have it last a year, but I'm fine with getting an iPod mini for $180 now, and having it last a year or so.

jayscheuerle
Jul 13, 2005, 03:28 PM
Do you guys think that i should just settle with the iPod Mini or get the 20 Gb. I would like some space on to iPod for storage of other files and $90 compared to $269 is a big difference, thats why i think i should jump on this deal while i have the chance.

Getting the Mini is by no way "settling". It's a far more solid product.

I usually leave around a Gig's worth of free space on my Mini to use for transferring files.

Capt Underpants
Jul 13, 2005, 04:01 PM
Getting the Mini is by no way "settling". It's a far more solid product.

I usually leave around a Gig's worth of free space on my Mini to use for transferring files.

It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify your purchase. For some people, buying an iPod mini would be "settling". For $50 more, you 2.5x the storage (if you're looking at a 6 GB mini), a color screen, and photo capabilities. For the people that don't need these features, the iPod mini is great. For others, though, the regular iPod is the way to go.

Diatribe
Jul 14, 2005, 12:30 AM
Umm that's what I meant by iPod video this fall. You did notice that Apple always puts the sub-name in small caps? It's iPod photo, not iPod Photo, it's iPod mini, not iPod Mini, and it will be iPod video, not iPod Video.

And I'm fully aware that the miniss will most likely be updated close to MWSF 2006, and then the regular iPod in the summer. My point is, when the iPod video (or whatever) becomes the regular iPod like the iPod photo did, in the summer, it will likely drop to $300 or so, and then that's when I'll probably buy. And that's a year off right? I don't want to buy an iPod photo now for $300 only to have it last a year, but I'm fine with getting an iPod mini for $180 now, and having it last a year or so.

Where did I get the capitalization wrong? Anyway I don't think the video iPod will become the standard in 1 year. More like 1 1/2, 2 years. But that's just me. I just bought my 20GB for 160, so whatever.

Diatribe
Jul 14, 2005, 12:32 AM
It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify your purchase. For some people, buying an iPod mini would be "settling". For $50 more, you 2.5x the storage (if you're looking at a 6 GB mini), a color screen, and photo capabilities. For the people that don't need these features, the iPod mini is great. For others, though, the regular iPod is the way to go.

Yep you're right, I think the better deal is definitely the regular iPod. You get more space, a color screen, photo compatibility, a wall charger. And I for one DO like the looks of the iPod.

ravenvii
Jul 14, 2005, 12:51 AM
Where did I get the capitalization wrong? Anyway I don't think the video iPod will become the standard in 1 year. More like 1 1/2, 2 years. But that's just me. I just bought my 20GB for 160, so whatever.

Yeah, whatever. :)

DarkNetworks
Jul 14, 2005, 01:29 AM
Can the new colour iPods view photo's like the iPod Photo?

Diatribe
Jul 14, 2005, 01:34 AM
Can the new colour iPods view photo's like the iPod Photo?

yes. they are the photos now.

mad jew
Jul 14, 2005, 01:34 AM
Can the new colour iPods view photo's like the iPod Photo?


Umm... Yeah, it's just a name change really. :)

DarkNetworks
Jul 14, 2005, 01:37 AM
If that's the case, why will anyone buy iPod Photo anymore?

mad jew
Jul 14, 2005, 01:41 AM
If that's the case, why will anyone buy iPod Photo anymore?


Well technically they wont since they simply changed the naming scheme. There's no need to make the "Photo" differentiation now that all of those regular (non-Shuffle/non-mini) iPods have colour screens. :)

Diatribe
Jul 14, 2005, 03:25 AM
If that's the case, why will anyone buy iPod Photo anymore?

As I said, the regular iPods ARE the iPod photos. They just dropped the name as mad jew said.

jayscheuerle
Jul 14, 2005, 05:55 AM
It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify your purchase. For some people, buying an iPod mini would be "settling". For $50 more, you 2.5x the storage (if you're looking at a 6 GB mini), a color screen, and photo capabilities. For the people that don't need these features, the iPod mini is great. For others, though, the regular iPod is the way to go.

That's silly. Everyone justifies a purchase such as an iPod! What I'm trying to do is sell you on the merits of the iPod Mini. I know exactly what it DOESN'T have. What I prefer, in order of importance is:

1) Size. It's HALF the size of the 20 gig iPod. Less than half! This is HUGE to me. My pockets are full enough.

2) Style and industrial design. This thing is a solid brick and a washed out green is one of my favorite colors. Mine gets beat to crap every day and cleans up with Fantastic. Tough and reliable and I'd never DREAM of putting some silly protective skin on it.

That's it. Larger disk size, color screen? They don't matter to me. I wouldn't use them anyhow. If someday an iPod comes out with a 3" x 2" color screen, then maybe I'd be tempted to get one of those as a digital wallet. The current screens are like giving people those crappy postage stamp sized class pictures.... Uhhh... thanks but no thanks.

I'd rather have my Mini than a 60 gig iPod photo, unless I was allowed to sell the iPod photo, buy a Mini, and keep the rest as beer money! :D