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Firesign3394
May 22, 2012, 03:20 PM
I can't figure it out and I have looked all over the web.

I have an mkv files I try to remux and they are 5.1. Whenever I remux, I get stereo sound. Changing settings doesn't help either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!



mic j
May 22, 2012, 03:42 PM
I can't figure it out and I have looked all over the web.

I have an mkv files I try to remux and they are 5.1. Whenever I remux, I get stereo sound. Changing settings doesn't help either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

What format is the audio track after remux (AAC, AC3, etc)?

Firesign3394
May 22, 2012, 03:54 PM
I want to say ac3 but I could be wrong.

chenks
May 22, 2012, 04:02 PM
it should look like this at the end

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1499080/Screen%20Shot%202012-05-01%20at%2009.16.21.png

track 1 AAC stereo
track 2 AC3 pass-thru 5.1

if you are using a mac to remux the MKV, then using MP4Tools the following settings will give you the correct result

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1499080/Screen%20Shot%202012-03-11%20at%2011.49.53.png

mic j
May 22, 2012, 04:05 PM
I want to say ac3 but I could be wrong.

Chenks, gives the way it should look after remux. If it is different than that, let us know the differences and we can work from that info to solve the problem.

Sorry, Chenks, didn't see the bottom of your post before I replied. Like you, I think, I prefer to use mp4tools to remux the mkv to mp4 and add generate a new stereo track.

Firesign3394
May 22, 2012, 04:12 PM
My mkv files do not have a stereo track, just a 5.1 track. Any thoughts?

mic j
May 22, 2012, 04:19 PM
My mkv files do not have a stereo track, just a 5.1 track. Any thoughts?

I have not used Subler to add an AAC Prologic II stereo track but I know it has a preference setting to do so. Do you have that preference option selected and the appropriate output type chosen? Oh, and is the input file DD or DTS? I am not 100% sure that Subler works well converting DTS to AAC.

Your very best option is to use MP4Tools to do this. It does not tag metadata however.

Diode
May 22, 2012, 04:21 PM
When adding the stereo track are you selecting pass-thru?

When I do remuxing with Subler and have a MKV with AC3 I add the audio track twice. Once to have it as a stereo track and the other to have it as a pass-thru AC3 track.

mic j
May 22, 2012, 04:30 PM
When adding the stereo track are you selecting pass-thru?

When I do remuxing with Subler and have a MKV with AC3 I add the audio track twice. Once to have it as a stereo track and the other to have it as a pass-thru AC3 track.

But doesn't it have to be AAC stereo for the aTV?

Alrescha
May 22, 2012, 08:48 PM
I have not used Subler to add an AAC Prologic II stereo track but I know it has a preference setting to do so.

Subler does not have this option (not quite). Subler has an option to convert an AC3 track to an AAC track. Alas, it does not preserve the AC3 track when it does so.

A.

Diode
May 22, 2012, 09:02 PM
But doesn't it have to be AAC stereo for the aTV?

You don't need AAC for the ATV. It plays AC3 just fine. I have two tracks - AC3 5.1 for the atv and AAC for my iPad/iPhone.

Then AC3 is selected as pass-thru and the AAC stereo track is converted from the ac3.

The only time I don't use two tracks is when the ac3 track is stereo. Then I just do one AAC file to save space - even though the atv can play a ac3 stereo file.

Firesign3394
May 22, 2012, 10:26 PM
Whenever I use MP4Tools, I have the problem outlined in this post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1373694

I don't have that issue with Subler.

But with Subler I have the audio issue!

http://i46.tinypic.com/y7as.jpg
This is a snapshot of my settings in Subler. I haven't an option to select stereo or 5.1.

I just tried to take a MP4Tools created file and "optimize" it using Subler but it did not work. I wish MP4Tools would work, considering I paid $5 for it and it works with audio so well.

Any other ideas?

chenks
May 23, 2012, 04:08 AM
I just tried to take a MP4Tools created file and "optimize" it using Subler but it did not work. I wish MP4Tools would work, considering I paid $5 for it and it works with audio so well.

Any other ideas?

MP4Tools works fine, you must be using it wrong if you are having problems.
See the screengrab of MP4Tools I provided further up the thread - that is how you remux the MKV file to M4V with 5.1 and stereo audio tracks.

mic j
May 23, 2012, 09:03 AM
You don't need AAC for the ATV. It plays AC3 just fine. I have two tracks - AC3 5.1 for the atv and AAC for my iPad/iPhone.

Then AC3 is selected as pass-thru and the AAC stereo track is converted from the ac3.

The only time I don't use two tracks is when the ac3 track is stereo. Then I just do one AAC file to save space - even though the atv can play a ac3 stereo file.

I misunderstood what you were saying. I though you were saying you have 2 AC3 tracks, 1 stereo and 1 5.1. That format was not what was "typical" for track structure as usually 1 is AAC stereo and the other is AC3 5.1.

Diode
May 23, 2012, 09:25 AM
Whenever I use MP4Tools, I have the problem outlined in this post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1373694

I don't have that issue with Subler.

But with Subler I have the audio issue!

Image (http://i46.tinypic.com/y7as.jpg)
This is a snapshot of my settings in Subler. I haven't an option to select stereo or 5.1.

I just tried to take a MP4Tools created file and "optimize" it using Subler but it did not work. I wish MP4Tools would work, considering I paid $5 for it and it works with audio so well.

Any other ideas?

The appletv can't play a m4v file with a DTS audio track - you need to convert it to AC3.

While a little complex to initially setup, When I have a mkv file with DTS, I use a script called mkvdtstoac3 to convert the mkv with a dts file to AC3 and then use subler to remux to the file to m4v.

The script:

https://github.com/JakeWharton/mkvdts2ac3

Some instructions to setup:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=836043

When following the instructions, just skip downloading the script from his site and get it from the Jake link I posted.

Once you have everything setup, you simply run "mkvdts2ac3 -n <filename>" in the terminal to recreate the MKV file with the DTS track replaced with a AC3 track.

It's free, works well, and is easy to use (once you have everything set up).

chenks
May 23, 2012, 10:06 AM
The appletv can't play a m4v file with a DTS audio track - you need to convert it to AC3.

While a little complex to initially setup, When I have a mkv file with DTS, I use a script called mkvdtstoac3 to convert the mkv with a dts file to AC3 and then use subler to remux to the file to m4v.

The script:

https://github.com/JakeWharton/mkvdts2ac3

Some instructions to setup:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=836043

When following the instructions, just skip downloading the script from his site and get it from the Jake link I posted.

Once you have everything setup, you simply run "mkvdts2ac3 -n <filename>" in the terminal to recreate the MKV file with the DTS track replaced with a AC3 track.

It's free, works well, and is easy to use (once you have everything set up).

or just use MP4Tools which does everything with the click of a couple of buttons - and it's FREE also.

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 11:15 AM
or just use MP4Tools which does everything with the click of a couple of buttons - and it's FREE also.

I would but it causes the issue outlined in the post above. If I could figure out what causes that issue, mp4tools would be great!

I am going to take a snapshot of my mp4tools settings later and post them here to see if I am doing anything wrong. I believe the settings always matched what another poster posted earlier.

I will also try using the script. It looks like that may work!

Diode
May 23, 2012, 11:42 AM
I would but it causes the issue outlined in the post above. If I could figure out what causes that issue, mp4tools would be great!

I am going to take a snapshot of my mp4tools settings later and post them here to see if I am doing anything wrong. I believe the settings always matched what another poster posted earlier.

I will also try using the script. It looks like that may work!


or just use MP4Tools which does everything with the click of a couple of buttons - and it's FREE also.

Looks like MP4Tools is buggy with the ATV / high bit rate files. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1373694)

The only thing I can think of would be to open the file created with MP4Tools in subler after conversion and use it's optimize function to resave the file and see if that works. Or just wait to see if the developer can fix the issue.

In the mean time the script I mentioned will do what you want to do.

chenks
May 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
i've never tried using Subler to remux a MKV file before.
what's the process for doing it in subler?

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The appletv can't play a m4v file with a DTS audio track - you need to convert it to AC3.

While a little complex to initially setup, When I have a mkv file with DTS, I use a script called mkvdtstoac3 to convert the mkv with a dts file to AC3 and then use subler to remux to the file to m4v.

The script:

https://github.com/JakeWharton/mkvdts2ac3

Some instructions to setup:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=836043

When following the instructions, just skip downloading the script from his site and get it from the Jake link I posted.

Once you have everything setup, you simply run "mkvdts2ac3 -n <filename>" in the terminal to recreate the MKV file with the DTS track replaced with a AC3 track.

It's free, works well, and is easy to use (once you have everything set up).

the problem i see with that process though, is that you end up with an M4V file with just 1 audio track (an AC3 5.1 pass-thru track)?

Diode
May 23, 2012, 12:00 PM
i've never tried using Subler to remux a MKV file before.
what's the process for doing it in subler?

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the problem i see with that process though, is that you end up with an M4V file with just 1 audio track (an AC3 5.1 pass-thru track)?

Subler will convert AC3 to AAC if you tell it to when adding tracks. Open the MKV file in subler and you can select which tracks to add to a new container. To get a second AAC track, re-add the MKV but only add the audio portion (deslecting the other tracks) and choose AAC instead of pass-thru.

From there you can add meta tags etc

Then just save the new file and it will create a proper m4v or queue it to do multiple at once. Subler will not convert the video track so it needs to be a h264/x264 track nor does it do DTS to AC3 (but I think it might do DTS to AAC).

mic j
May 23, 2012, 12:11 PM
Subler will convert AC3 to AAC if you tell it to when adding tracks. Open the MKV file in subler and you can select which tracks to add to a new container. To get a second AAC track, re-add the MKV but only add the audio portion (deslecting the other tracks) and choose AAC instead of pass-thru.

From there you can add meta tags etc

Then just save the new file and it will create a proper m4v or queue it to do multiple at once. Subler will not convert the video track so it needs to be a h264/x264 track nor does it do DTS to AC3 (but I think it might do DTS to AAC).
I assume you are referring to AAC multichannel, correct? When I have selected that "action" the added track is still titled "DTS 6 channel". Is that the way it should appear and then after remuxing it is changed to AAC multichannel? A little bit confusing.

chenks
May 23, 2012, 12:19 PM
trying to follow the instructions that were posted regarding mkvdts2ac3 and having problems at the first hurdle (installing cmake)

sudo curl -O http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.6/” && cmake_install && tar xvzf && cmake_install
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 4914 100 4914 0 0 12527 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 20647
-bash: cmake_install: command not found

any suggestions?
OSX Lion 10.7.4 with xcode 4.x installed.

plus, i'm having to put "sudo" in front of every command....

Diode
May 23, 2012, 12:27 PM
trying to follow the instructions that were posted regarding mkvdts2ac3 and having problems at the first hurdle (installing cmake)

sudo curl -O http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.6/” && cmake_install && tar xvzf && cmake_install
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 4914 100 4914 0 0 12527 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 20647
-bash: cmake_install: command not found

any suggestions?
OSX Lion 10.7.4 with xcode 4.x installed.

plus, i'm having to put "sudo" in front of every command....

I would just install it from here:

http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.8/cmake-2.8.8-Darwin64-universal.dmg

It's a precompiled binary. Look at ixxx69's instructions further down. They are more up to date.

chenks
May 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
ok.... next point of failure is the part for mkvinfo... the zip file doesn't appear to be at that URL any more.

mic j
May 23, 2012, 01:01 PM
Looks like the problem is with mp4tools is with the video track. So wouldn't this work:
1) create an mp4 with a video track, dts-ma converted to AC3 5.1 and a AAC stereo track using mp4tools
2) open the original mkv in Subler
3) delete all tracks except the video track
3) add only the 2 audio tracks (AC3 5.1 and AAC stereo) from the mp4
4) save

chenks
May 23, 2012, 01:16 PM
I would just install it from here:

http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.8/cmake-2.8.8-Darwin64-universal.dmg

It's a precompiled binary. Look at ixxx69's instructions further down. They are more up to date.

OK installed it all as per the ixxx69 instructions.
tried a test "mkvdts2ac3 -n test.mkv" and get the following error

ERROR: ERROR: The program 'ffmpeg' is not in the path. Is ffmpeg installed?

Diode
May 23, 2012, 02:14 PM
OK installed it all as per the ixxx69 instructions.
tried a test "mkvdts2ac3 -n test.mkv" and get the following error

ERROR: ERROR: The program 'ffmpeg' is not in the path. Is ffmpeg installed?

I guess he's using ffmpeg now instead of libdca - try installing that?

I think this guy has up to date binaries. (http://ffmpegmac.net/)

Or you can compile them yourself if you feel up to the challenge. (http://jungels.net/articles/ffmpeg-howto.html)

MKVDTS2AC3 has a readme that would be helpful. (https://github.com/JakeWharton/mkvdts2ac3/blob/master/README.md)

chenks
May 23, 2012, 02:27 PM
seems both the installation lists are a bit out of date.
ffmpeg now installed and running a test conversion to see how it goes.

chenks
May 23, 2012, 03:01 PM
dunno if it's the latest beta version of Subler at fault, but Subler keeps crashing when saving the new version.

this is what it looks like when i drag the MKV in after it has been run thru mkvdts2ac3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1499080/Screen%20Shot%202012-05-23%20at%2020.57.35.png

i select the video track and the AC3 track (setting it to pass-thru) and deselect all the others. i then drag the original MKV file in and select the DTS track and set it to AAC stereo.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1499080/Screen%20Shot%202012-05-23%20at%2021.00.58.png

I hit save, and Subler goes thru the saving process and then bombs out.

Diode
May 23, 2012, 03:39 PM
No idea other then checking to ensure that 64 Bit chunk offset is checked when saving. I think Subler uses Perian to decode the AC3 to AAC so you might want to double check your on the latest version of Perian.

Other then that I have no idea - sorry. I don't do 1080P but 720P files and this workflow does fine for me. You could also try and play your file in quicktime/vlc player to make sure the conversion worked correctly and select the AC3 track.

chenks
May 23, 2012, 03:50 PM
i didn't have any of the 64-bit options enabled during the save.
should they be?

64 bits chunk offset
64 bits times

Diode
May 23, 2012, 03:52 PM
i didn't have any of the 64-bit options enabled during the save.
should they be?

64 bits chunk offset
64 bits times

For files over 4gb 64 Bit chunk offset needs to be selected when using either subler - I think handbreak now does this by default.

mic j
May 23, 2012, 05:46 PM
Successfully used mp4tools to recode the dts-ma to AC3 5.1 and create a AAC stereo track. I then used Subler to remux the video track from the original mkv file with the 2 audio tracks from the m4v file. This resulted in an m4v file with:

Track 1: video h.264 (uncompressed)
Track 2: AAC stereo audio
Track 3: AC3 5.1 audio

Plays fine.

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 06:17 PM
Looks like the problem is with mp4tools is with the video track. So wouldn't this work:
1) create an mp4 with a video track, dts-ma converted to AC3 5.1 and a AAC stereo track using mp4tools
2) open the original mkv in Subler
3) delete all tracks except the video track
3) add only the 2 audio tracks (AC3 5.1 and AAC stereo) from the mp4
4) save

I have tried this method, but it results in a m4v file with 2 audio track, but no video. I do exactly as you say, create a m4v with a 5.1 and stereo track with MP4Tools, then take the original MKV and open it up in Subler but only add the video track and add the audio from the MP4Tools M4V file. I am not sure why this happens. You would think it would work great!

mic j
May 23, 2012, 06:27 PM
I have tried this method, but it results in a m4v file with 2 audio track, but no video. I do exactly as you say, create a m4v with a 5.1 and stereo track with MP4Tools, then take the original MKV and open it up in Subler but only add the video track and add the audio from the MP4Tools M4V file. I am not sure why this happens. You would think it would work great!

Do you "open" it or "add" it? I do this:
1) File>new
2)Then click the '+"
3) Select the file. It should open and present the various track selections
4) unselelect everything but the video track
5) "Add"

I repeat steps 2-5 for the video tracks.

Open and New can give you different results.

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 06:29 PM
Do you "open" it or "add" it? I do this:
1) File>new
2)Then click the '+"
3) Select the file. It should open and present the various track selections
4) unselelect everything but the video track
5) "Add"

I repeat steps 2-5 for the video tracks.

Open and New can give you different results.

Do all the tracks need to be checked with the check in the box (video track and the 2 audio tracks)?

mic j
May 23, 2012, 06:31 PM
Do all the tracks need to be checked with the check in the box (video track and the 2 audio tracks)?

You referring to the window that show up after you have added everything?

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 06:32 PM
You referring to the window that show up after you have added everything?

Yes

mic j
May 23, 2012, 06:35 PM
Yes
No, only the video track and 1st audio track (AAC) need check marks. But that doesn't have anything to do with the output file, only what the aTV sees as the default tracks. In that window you should see:
video track
audio track AAC
audio track AC3
and what ever other track you have added (subtitle, chapter,etc)
If you see all of those then do a save as and you should get an m4v file that has a video track.

Supper break for a while. Let me know what happens.

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 06:48 PM
This is what it looks like before I click save:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqwx6o.png

I have a 184MB m4V file as an output with 2 audio tracks and no video.

Here is what Subler looks like after the remux:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2rxw2o2.png

It's weird that the video file shows zeros for the time...

Remuxing the MKV by itself provides a file with video and stereo audio. I don't know whats going on.

mic j
May 23, 2012, 07:04 PM
This is what it looks like before I click save:
Image (http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqwx6o.png)

I have a 184MB m4V file as an output with 2 audio tracks and no video.

Here is what Subler looks like after the remux:

Image (http://i47.tinypic.com/2rxw2o2.png)

It's weird that the video file shows zeros for the time...

Remuxing the MKV by itself provides a file with video and stereo audio. I don't know whats going on.
One thing I noticed that I had not experienced before while using Subler is that the save progress bar got about half way through, then it started over and went through a second save process. Make sure that when you are saving, you let it complete.

Edit: do you by any chance have Media Info that you could analyze the output file?

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 07:08 PM
One thing I noticed that I had not experienced before while using Subler is that the save progress bar got about half way through, then it started over and went through a second save process. Make sure that when you are saving, you let it complete.

Edit: do you by any chance have Media Info that you could analyze the output file?

I am not sure. I looked at media information in vlc and that's how I found that there were two streams of audio in the file.

mic j
May 23, 2012, 07:26 PM
I am not sure. I looked at media information in vlc and that's how I found that there were two streams of audio in the file.

I just looked at the my file info from VLC. It also shows only 2 audio streams but the video plays normally. Have you tried just seeing if the video plays with VLC?

I need to correct that. It shows 3 streams with video being stream 0.

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This is what it looks like before I click save:
Image (http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqwx6o.png)

I have a 184MB m4V file as an output with 2 audio tracks and no video.

Here is what Subler looks like after the remux:

Image (http://i47.tinypic.com/2rxw2o2.png)

It's weird that the video file shows zeros for the time...

Remuxing the MKV by itself provides a file with video and stereo audio. I don't know whats going on.
That is very strange you are getting all zero's for the video after you remux. Is the file over 4GB. On the save window are you checking 64 bit offset if the file size is over 4GB?

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 07:30 PM
I just looked at the my file info from VLC. It also shows only 2 audio streams but the video plays normally. Have you tried just seeing if the video plays with VLC?

I need to correct that. It shows 3 streams with video being stream 0.

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That is very strange you are getting all zero's for the video after you remux. Is the file over 4GB. On the save window are you checking 64 bit offset if the file size is over 4GB?

That box is checked, the video is a straight blu ray rip. it's 8 gb. The mkv of the video works great in vlc as well.

mic j
May 23, 2012, 07:37 PM
You could try and add the video file from an m4v file that was successfully produce by Subler, then add the AAC and AC3 audio tracks from the mp4tools file.

Normally, you shouldn't have to jump through these hoops. But I suspect there is something funky about the original mkv video track that's causing the problems as mp4tools is very reliable and Subler is very reliable. It all seems to point back to a problem with the original video track that Subler seems to be able to get through if it's looking at the file as a whole.

You could also try taking a working file produced by subler and just add the AAC and AC3 tracks without removing the other audio tracks. If that is playable, take it back into Subler through the New/Add process and remove the unwanted tracks. Then see if it still plays.

Will be looking forward tomorrow to see where this whole thing stands. It is really odd.

Firesign3394
May 23, 2012, 07:42 PM
You could try and add the video file from an m4v file that was successfully produce by Subler, then add the AAC and AC3 audio tracks from the mp4tools file.

Normally, you shouldn't have to jump through these hoops. But I suspect there is something funky about the original mkv video track that's causing the problems as mp4tools is very reliable and Subler is very reliable. It all seems to point back to a problem with the original video track that Subler seems to be able to get through if it's looking at the file as a whole.

You could also try taking a working file produced by subler and just add the AAC and AC3 tracks without removing the other audio tracks. If that is playable, take it back into Subler through the New/Add process and remove the unwanted tracks. Then see if it still plays.

Will be looking forward tomorrow to see where this whole thing stands. It is really odd.

I'll try that. I'm using straight rips from Blu Rays created with MakeMKV. No conversions or anything. It works with stereo sound but not 5.1. I think the solution is close though, I will keep trying things and keep the thread updated.

sampdoria
May 25, 2012, 12:44 PM
I find it annoying, that the 5.1 and 2-Ch audio tracks both appear as "English" on ATV. Does anyone know of a way for each track to say "English (Surround)" and "English (Stereo)" instead?

Diode
May 29, 2012, 05:02 PM
I find it annoying, that the 5.1 and 2-Ch audio tracks both appear as "English" on ATV. Does anyone know of a way for each track to say "English (Surround)" and "English (Stereo)" instead?

Unfortunately it's nothing that can be changed that I know of.

JMEANS
Jun 12, 2012, 03:01 PM
Well basically using subler to try and convert a 3gig DVD backup for itunes/ATV2.
I read the following thread so I know considering the MKV has only the one AC3 5.1 soundtrack that i need to create another 2 channel AAC to succeed.
I am confused as how to add the same AC3 track again in the same file for conversion though? I added them both sets of files to the convert Que but it gives me the RED STOP SIGN?!

I would also like to add that with or without adding the second AC3 track i get the RED STOP SIGN ?! upon hitting the convert button.

I have used subler on many rips in the past (for tagging) with success but this DVD having the only 1 audio track is giving me an issue. Also i never downloaded Perien so could that be the issue as well?

Any info would be swell . Thanks JIM

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/autumn-room-arts/Fullscreen-1.jpg

mic j
Jun 12, 2012, 03:08 PM
Well basically using subler to try and convert a 3gig DVD backup for itunes/ATV2.
I read the following thread so I know considering the MKV has only the one AC3 5.1 soundtrack that i need to create another 2 channel AAC to succeed.
I am confused as how to add the same AC3 track again in the same file for conversion though? I added them both sets of files to the convert Que but it gives me the RED STOP SIGN?!

I would also like to add that with or without adding the second AC3 track i get the RED STOP SIGN ?! upon hitting the convert button.

I have used subler on many rips in the past (for tagging) with success but this DVD having the only 1 audio track is giving me an issue. Also i never downloaded Perien so could that be the issue as well?

Any info would be swell . Thanks JIM

Image (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/autumn-room-arts/Fullscreen-1.jpg)
Looks to me like your file is mpeg2 and therefore cannot be put in a mp4 container, so that's why you get the red stop sign.

JMEANS
Jun 12, 2012, 03:47 PM
thanks micJ i used make MKV to get the rip, i dont want to shrink it in any way which is why i didnt handbreak it. Hope there is a setting in make MKV to get an mpeg4 ?

mic j
Jun 12, 2012, 04:01 PM
thanks micJ i used make MKV to get the rip, i dont want to shrink it in any way which is why i didnt handbreak it. Hope there is a setting in make MKV to get an mpeg4 ?
No, MakeMKV only can take the original codec, whatever it is, and place it in the mkv container. Changing a mpeg2 to and mp4 is transcoding which is what Handbrake does. I would really recommend you Handbrake a small part of it, using High Profile preset, and compare it to the original. You might be surprised at how well they compare.

JMEANS
Jun 12, 2012, 04:53 PM
sounds like a plan! i really didnt want to shrink the file or re-transcode or whatever considering it was all ready at 3g and quality was awesome at what it was...

I will start off with the High Profile CQ @20 I am sure it will be fine.

I have ripped a bunch of DVD's all ready in HB i just thought i would try something different lol

Still trying to wrap my head around all this in a way I guess and you helped me understand more 'mic j' so thanks so much!

Out of all the forums i visit this by far is the most informative!!

Sincerely Jim Means

mic j
Jun 12, 2012, 05:05 PM
sounds like a plan! i really didnt want to shrink the file or re-transcode or whatever considering it was all ready at 3g and quality was awesome at what it was...

I will start off with the High Profile CQ @20 I am sure it will be fine.

I have ripped a bunch of DVD's all ready in HB i just thought i would try something different lol

Still trying to wrap my head around all this in a way I guess and you helped me understand more 'mic j' so thanks so much!

Out of all the forums i visit this by far is the most informative!!

Sincerely Jim Means
Believe me, I wish I could do what you wanted to do. I have about 200 mpeg2's that I would love to just move into the mp4 container. Just as a side note, for doing what you wanted, I think mp4tools is better because it will automatically create the AAC stereo audio track and place an h.264 into an mp4 container.

JMEANS
Jun 12, 2012, 07:08 PM
Ha ha I actually tried the MP4tools and struck out there as well with this very same mpeg2 file...
got an error after all the muxing. i followed the settings someone suggested from (screen caps) and no success. I am guessing its also because i used an mpeg2 file? Regardless that program seemed alot more complex than subler to me.

mic j
Jun 12, 2012, 07:32 PM
Ha ha I actually tried the MP4tools and struck out there as well with this very same mpeg2 file...
got an error after all the muxing. i followed the settings someone suggested from (screen caps) and no success. I am guessing its also because i used an mpeg2 file? Regardless that program seemed alot more complex than subler to me.
Not really more complex if you consider what you have to do to get the additional AAC audio track created and into Subler. And yes, error was due to it being mpeg2. Use Media Inspector to check the codec of the file before trying to change the container. But contrary to what a lot of people have been saying, I have never run into a dvd that isn't mpeg2. Torrent downloads are often h.264 (they have compressed them for downloading, so you are not gaining anything over doing it yourself with HB) and most blurays are h.264.