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zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 07:06 PM
Running Mountain Lion here, I have purchased Lion through the mac app store previously. Best way to downgrade to Lion?

It wont me download Lion because I'm running Mountain Lion.



simsaladimbamba
May 22, 2012, 07:08 PM
Perform a Clean Install of OS X Lion on Your Mac (http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Perform-A-Clean-Install-Of-Os-X-Lion-On-Your-Mac.htm)


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zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 07:15 PM
Perform a Clean Install of OS X Lion on Your Mac (http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Perform-A-Clean-Install-Of-Os-X-Lion-On-Your-Mac.htm)


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I appreciate your help, but this obviously isn't a viable option, if you fully read my post that is:

What You Need to Install Lion

The Lion installer. The Mac App Store is the only place to get a copy of Lion.

I can't download Lion from the Mac App Store.

simsaladimbamba
May 22, 2012, 07:19 PM
I appreciate your help, but this obviously isn't a viable option, if you fully read my post that is:



I can't download Lion from the Mac App Store.

Do you know using Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or Mac OS X 10.7 Lion? That way you could use that computer using your account credentials to download Mac OS X 10.7 Lion again and doing the following: Make An OS X Lion Boot Disc (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/18/make-an-os-x-lion-boot-disc/)

zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 07:23 PM
Do you know using Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or Mac OS X 10.7 Lion? That way you could use that computer using your account credentials to download Mac OS X 10.7 Lion again and doing the following: Make An OS X Lion Boot Disc (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/18/make-an-os-x-lion-boot-disc/)

Unfortunately I screwed myself over on overwriting my install of 10.7 with 10.8 No other macs and no other non 10.8 installs.

Am I really stuck with going all the way back through 10.6 to get this back to 10.7? Ughh.

simsaladimbamba
May 22, 2012, 07:29 PM
Unfortunately I screwed myself over on overwriting my install of 10.7 with 10.8 No other macs and no other non 10.8 installs.

Am I really stuck with going all the way back through 10.6 to get this back to 10.7? Ughh.

I forgot a word in my second reply, "someone", thus it should have said "Do you know someone using Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or Mac OS X 10.7 Lion?".
But if you don't using Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard first is the only way.

zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 07:30 PM
I forgot a word in my second reply, "someone", thus it should have said "Do you know someone using Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or Mac OS X 10.7 Lion?".
But if you don't using Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard first is the only way.

Ahh I see I'll have to look around. This is silly.

Nielsenius
May 22, 2012, 07:46 PM
I'm sure you've heard about some of those websites. Go to one and download yourself a copy of Lion > burn it to a DVD > create a new partition in Disk Utility > boot to the install DVD > install Lion on the new partition.

zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 07:47 PM
I'm sure you've heard about some of those websites. Go to one and download yourself a copy of Lion > burn it to a DVD > create a new partition in Disk Utility > boot to the install DVD > install Lion on the new partition.

Is the Lion install you get from those websites tied to a specific mac app store account? Like, if I were to download Lion legit from the MAS, is it tied to my account in any way?

PurrBall
May 22, 2012, 08:02 PM
Is the Lion install you get from those websites tied to a specific mac app store account? Like, if I were to download Lion legit from the MAS, is it tied to my account in any way?

You should be able to find the ESD image that doesn't have account details tied to it.

NJRonbo
May 22, 2012, 08:13 PM
May I ask why you are downgrading to Lion?

I am on ML DP3 (12A206j) and I have to tell you, both my desktop and laptop are running like champs.

In fact, I find ML a huge improvement over Lion just in overall speed.

I have at least 3 dozen applications in my dock and I don't think I am having a problem with any one of them not properly working.

zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 08:24 PM
May I ask why you are downgrading to Lion?

I am on ML DP3 (12A206j) and I have to tell you, both my desktop and laptop are running like champs.

In fact, I find ML a huge improvement over Lion just in overall speed.

I have at least 3 dozen applications in my dock and I don't think I am having a problem with any one of them not properly working.

Two things over the past days have happened and trying to figure out of its ML or my hardware. I have a thread open in the MBP forum.

My computer literally turned off this morning and wouldn't turn back on for several minutes. the battery was at ~50%. the battery indicator lights wouldnt even turn on. :/

NJRonbo
May 22, 2012, 08:27 PM
Hmmm.

I am on a 2009 MBP and Mountain Lion is working beautifully.

I didn't even partitian my drive. I am running it as a straight-out OS.

I'm not so certain that ML is the problem here, but then again, I don't know what version you are using and how old your MBP is.

zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 08:31 PM
Hmmm.

I am on a 2009 MBP and Mountain Lion is working beautifully.

I didn't even partitian my drive. I am running it as a straight-out OS.

I'm not so certain that ML is the problem here, but then again, I don't know what version you are using and how old your MBP is.

13" 2010

I'm not running the latest version, I think DP 1 or 2.

NJRonbo
May 22, 2012, 08:41 PM
Uhm, yeah, DP1 not good. DP2 maybe.

Those versions are a lot more buggier than DP3.

Thing is, I don't think you can do a software update from the App Store on DP1 or DP2. I could be wrong about that.

And with your Mac not even turning on, I don't think it would matter anyway.

zachnelson
May 22, 2012, 08:42 PM
Uhm, yeah, DP1 not good. DP2 maybe.

Those versions are a lot more buggier than DP3.

Thing is, I don't think you can do a software update from the App Store on DP1 or DP2. I could be wrong about that.

And with your Mac not even turning on, I don't think it would matter anyway.

It's on now, it figured it's **** out after a few minutes. Anyway downloading Lion from a great source.

richardheath94
Jun 8, 2012, 06:37 AM
Hi all,

I am running ML DP3 as my main OS on my :apple: 2010 MB Air, and it is as smooth as can be! not a single problem - plus it is getting constantly update via. the app store; very impressive.

However, I read somewhere that it is impossible to upgrade from ML DP3 to the retail version... you must be running Lion. Any ideas on this??

i really want to have my computer ready for the next OS retail version, but I'm not sure how to get back to Lion easily!

NJRonbo
Jun 8, 2012, 06:52 AM
I have actually read differently on this forum.

You can indeed upgrade from Mountain Lion DP to the final version.

However, I am interested in getting the definitive word.

richardheath94
Jun 9, 2012, 03:14 AM
I have actually read differently on this forum.

You can indeed upgrade from Mountain Lion DP to the final version.

However, I am interested in getting the definitive word.

Are you sure...? I have read this 'You will not be able to upgrade from the OS X Mountain Lion Developer Preview to the final release.'

on this website... http://osxdaily.com/2012/04/18/os-x-mountain-lion-developer-preview-3-available-for-dev-download/

so...:confused:

NJRonbo
Jun 9, 2012, 05:32 AM
Thing is, we heard the same thing during the DP release of Snow Leopard.

We indeed were able to upgrade from DP to final.

However, that's not to say that this time they mean it.

Here is a thread that has multiple opinions on the subject:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365130

richardheath94
Jun 9, 2012, 06:28 AM
Ah, I see. I have faith that this is the case again this year... but if I was to purchase Mountain Lion from the App Store, would it still install or not?

NJRonbo
Jun 9, 2012, 07:57 AM
Richard,

I don't know if anyone outside of Apple could answer that question.

On the one hand, I would think developers would get the final Gold Master from Apple (as they did with Snow Leopard) which could be installed over the DP.

On the other hand, Apple may have absolutely changed things up this time around and there will be no means of installing the final release over the DP.

After all, Apple has it in writing that it can't be done, as you pointed out.

All we have to rely on is that we were able to do it with Snow Leopard.

Best bet? Do as I did. Have a copy of your Lion system backed up on an external drive just in case.

richardheath94
Jun 9, 2012, 08:04 AM
you are completely right, but due to a hastily poor decision from me, I am almost certain all my backups are now 10.8 (i know, rookie error).

so, I'm thinking I wait until 10.8 is released, see if it is possible; if not - I'll format my HD and reinstall lion - using a version on one of my friend's laptop (via recovery usb).

Do you think this is the best plan of action? Thanks for the help, too.

ps., is there a way of checking what OS a backup is of? I may indeed have a Time Capsule backup of 10.7, but im not sure...

Bear
Jun 9, 2012, 08:11 AM
I have actually read differently on this forum.

You can indeed upgrade from Mountain Lion DP to the final version.

However, I am interested in getting the definitive word.How can anyone know the upgrade is posisble when Apple has said it won't be possible and the released version of Mountain Lion isn't available to try.

At this point the best answer is "Maybe. Apple said no, but for previous OS releases, it has worked. We'll know when Mountain Lion is released and available."


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ps., is there a way of checking what OS a backup is of? I may indeed have a Time Capsule backup of 10.7, but im not sure...One way is by the date of course. Was the backup from before Mountain Lion DPs were available.

Another way is to check the backup for an application or file that Mountain Lion has that wasn't in Lion. Notification Center files? Messages?

richardheath94
Jun 9, 2012, 08:13 AM
How can anyone know the upgrade is posisble when Apple has said it won't be possible and the released version of Mountain Lion is available to try.

Haha very true. but, isn't this site all about speculation? :D

also, thanks bear, i will try that.

richardheath94
Jun 9, 2012, 10:45 PM
*Possible Solution!* :cool:

So, after many failed attempts.... (backups were all 10.8 Bear), I think I have discovered a way of returning back to stable 10.7.

Another family member has 10.7 on their laptop, so I simply downloaded the Lion Recovery Disk Assistant (here) : http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1433?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

I made a recovery disk on an external USB HD, and upon startup holding the option key with usb in... and now I can quickly and easily clean-reinstall OSX Lion using this method. I hope this helps other people who were as foolish as me to install a Beta as their main OS to look badass.

Thanks,
richadheath94 :apple:

AlphaDogg
Jun 9, 2012, 10:51 PM
I had the same problem last summer when I upgraded my MBP from 10.6 to 10.7. I downgraded with the 10.6 disc, but nothing at all worked right. My only option from then on out was to stick with Lion until it was released.

richardheath94
Jun 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
My only option from then on out was to stick with Lion until it was released.

What exactly do you mean by 'until it was released?' how did you go straight to Lion retail version...? :confused:

AlphaDogg
Jun 10, 2012, 12:06 AM
What exactly do you mean by 'until it was released?' how did you go straight to Lion retail version...? :confused:

I stayed with the Lion beta and continually updated it until I got to the GM version. Then I bought the retail version (which ended up being the exact same as the GM)

richardheath94
Jun 10, 2012, 12:10 AM
was your DP legitimate or not? I would have thought there would be an error if you bought the Lion retail and tried to install it over the GM. like, '10.7 is already installed' or something.

I hope this is the same for mountain lion,
that would save me a lot of stress!

wsw1217
Jun 13, 2012, 03:46 PM
was your DP legitimate or not? I would have thought there would be an error if you bought the Lion retail and tried to install it over the GM. like, '10.7 is already installed' or something.

I hope this is the same for mountain lion,
that would save me a lot of stress!

Read all the way through this thread.
I am actually looking for exactly the same solutions.
Thanks for ur post.
I posted a thread to ask for solutions, but no one relied. Since my English is not my native language, it was probably because my post was not properly phrased.
Thank you.

rupam.db
Jun 14, 2012, 12:04 AM
I'm sure you've heard about some of those websites. Go to one and download yourself a copy of Lion > burn it to a DVD > create a new partition in Disk Utility > boot to the install DVD > install Lion on the new partition.

What websites? If its not allowed then please PM the name :o

pdjudd
Jun 14, 2012, 01:04 AM
What websites? If its not allowed then please PM the name :o

Posting any such information anywhere is against the rules - do not ask for it period! Donít think for a second that your PMís are private to the mods.

rupam.db
Jun 14, 2012, 05:50 AM
Posting any such information anywhere is against the rules - do not ask for it period! Donít think for a second that your PMís are private to the mods.

That's not very comforting :(

pdjudd
Jun 14, 2012, 07:02 AM
That's not very comforting :(

What else would you expect from a private website?

rupam.db
Jun 14, 2012, 10:47 AM
What else would you expect from a private website?

I rather not say...

pdjudd
Jun 14, 2012, 11:06 AM
I rather not say...
Lets put it this way - you should not expect any privacy, especially when what you want is to talk about things the board does not allow. If you would rather not say, then don't ask in the first place because it's probably not allowed.

rupam.db
Jun 14, 2012, 12:53 PM
Lets put it this way - you should not expect any privacy, especially when what you want is to talk about things the board does not allow. If you would rather not say, then don't ask in the first place because it's probably not allowed.

Dude you made that brutally clear.... let it go now