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Antoni Nygaard
May 31, 2012, 03:15 PM
Do you think the UI of iOS 6 is going to be more brighter?

I did these tweaks to the UI on my iPhone based on the WWDC app.

the UI elements comes from the WWDC app.

and of course the text in the top bar has to be black instead of white, but couldn't do that.

To me the brighter background color looks much better than the old Pinstripe.

What do you think?

am i wrong?



nuckinfutz
May 31, 2012, 03:17 PM
Brighter equals more battery drain so probably not.

anti-microsoft
May 31, 2012, 03:20 PM
I think iOS 6 is going to unify the UI on the iPhone and the iPad. The "chrome" will be silver on both devices compared to the current: silver on the iPad and blue on the iPhone.

WordMasterRice
May 31, 2012, 03:21 PM
Brighter equals more battery drain so probably not.

Except for the fact that it doesn't.

nuckinfutz
May 31, 2012, 03:27 PM
Except for the fact that it doesn't.

http://bgoog.com/about

http://ecoiron.blogspot.com/2007/01/black-google-would-save-3000-megawatts.html

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/12944_Maximising_battery_life_in_the.php

3. Black is good, White is bad.

Rather reversing the old cowboy film stereotypes, colour schemes on OLED-screened phones are critical. Both for the OS 'theme' applied and the background colour within applications. Of course, in some cases there's little you can do - for example, browsing a web site with a white background - but it's still something to be foremost in your mind when choosing what to do on your smartphone and how to do it.

I did an extended link of interest to the initial research into the way OLED screen power drain varies hugely with the brightness asked of it. In summary, a display that's basically black but just lighting up text and screen elements uses up to fifteen times less power than the exact same display but with a white background and (say) black or blue text and elements. In my tests, using a white theme for a static display (e.g. in Calendar) used a massive 200mA more than the exact same screen with one of Nokia's built-in 'Midnight' (black) themes applied.

I've been pressing the guys behind Nokia Social to put in a 'black' themed option for ages, but nothing's happened so far. With its steadfastly white display, Nokia Social is a huge battery drainer and is yet another reason to switch to TwimGo or Gravity, both of which have a choice of colour schemes

Anxiously awaiting your reasoning behind believing that white backgrounds make no difference.

ct2k7
May 31, 2012, 03:55 PM
http://bgoog.com/about

http://ecoiron.blogspot.com/2007/01/black-google-would-save-3000-megawatts.html

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/12944_Maximising_battery_life_in_the.php



Anxiously awaiting your reasoning behind believing that white backgrounds make no difference.

LCD screens work by having a white light constantly on, they cannot display black colors, so to get a darker color, the cell has to be closed, which uses more energy.

White > Dark for less power consumption.

nuckinfutz
May 31, 2012, 04:00 PM
LCD screens work by having a white light constantly on, they cannot display black colors, so to get a darker color, the cell has to be closed, which uses more energy.

White > Dark for less power consumption.

Doesn't apply to AMOLED screens.

dejo
May 31, 2012, 04:02 PM
Doesn't apply to AMOLED screens.

iPhone doesn't use an AMOLED screen.

MikeBusch2
May 31, 2012, 04:03 PM
Anxiously awaiting your reasoning behind believing that white backgrounds make no difference.

The iPhone/iPad don't use OLED displays. LCD is backlit constantly, regardless of pixel color, so there is no difference in battery life, dark versus light.

My old Samsung Captivate had an OLED display, and there was a measurable difference using dark themes versus light themes. In an OLED display, each pixel is its own light source, so solid black meant the pixel was "off".

WordMasterRice
May 31, 2012, 04:14 PM
http://bgoog.com/about

http://ecoiron.blogspot.com/2007/01/black-google-would-save-3000-megawatts.html

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/12944_Maximising_battery_life_in_the.php



Anxiously awaiting your reasoning behind believing that white backgrounds make no difference.

In an IPS LCD display the backlight is always on and always the same brightness and LCD panels (excluding the backlight) don't change power based on the color they are displaying. This is why the blacks on an IPS aren't really all that black (ie if you show a black screen in a dark room it still lights up the room). OLED actually shuts the light off, IPS LCD doesn't work like that. Of note, CRT's also actually shut off the light so black saves power on those as well.

Please do you research before spouting BS.

nuckinfutz
May 31, 2012, 04:18 PM
The iPhone/iPad don't use OLED displays. LCD is backlit constantly, regardless of pixel color, so there is no difference in battery life, dark versus light.

My old Samsung Captivate had an OLED display, and there was a measurable difference using dark themes versus light themes. In an OLED display, each pixel is its own light source, so solid black meant the pixel was "off".

Yes. My bad I really should have stayed within the context of iPhone screen technology. Because the ramifications of white backgrounds and power drain do indeed depend on the display technology.

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In an IPS LCD display the backlight is always on and always the same brightness and LCD panels (excluding the backlight) don't change power based on the color they are displaying. This is why the blacks on an IPS aren't really all that black (ie if you show a black screen in a dark room it still lights up the room). OLED actually shuts the light off, IPS LCD doesn't work like that. Of note, CRT's also actually shut off the light so black saves power on those as well.

Please do you research before spouting BS.

What I said was true of both OLED based display and Plasma technology. Nor did I qualify my response with "In IPS based LCD technology...."

so it wasn't BS. Let's try not to be so pedantic.

lancastor
Jun 3, 2012, 10:43 AM
The brighter UI looks really great. I hope Apple is removing the black/blue color schema in iOS6. The silver looks more professional then the current dark one.

Surrix
Jun 3, 2012, 11:46 AM
Yes. My bad I really should have stayed within the context of iPhone screen technology. Because the ramifications of white backgrounds and power drain do indeed depend on the display technology.

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What I said was true of both OLED based display and Plasma technology. Nor did I qualify my response with "In IPS based LCD technology...."

so it wasn't BS. Let's try not to be so pedantic.Many lols, nice try backpedaling. We're talking very explicitly about iOS 6, and you said a brighter iOS 6 UI would drain the battery faster. That inherently means IPS based LCDs. You're the one being a pedant now.

nuckinfutz
Jun 3, 2012, 12:56 PM
Many lols, nice try backpedaling. We're talking very explicitly about iOS 6, and you said a brighter iOS 6 UI would drain the battery faster. That inherently means IPS based LCDs. You're the one being a pedant now.

That true. I failed to take it in context. Shall I offer you a pound of flesh as recompense? :p

Actually it made me remember why I'm not that enthused by LCD technology. Lack of good blacks unless you spend an ****-ton of money. I almost went Plasma for my last TV purchase but I kept it really cheap because hey....that Apple HDTV may actually become a real product.

truthfully yours

Nuk the pedant.

MattInOz
Jun 4, 2012, 02:08 AM
Well a tempting possibility is a new screen that doesn't need the backlight on to read the screen, so the screen always has info visible even if just the time. in which case a high contrast theme would be useful.

Then again if that does happen then the white new iPhone needs a white theme like yours, and the black new iPhone the inverse black theme.

musika
Jun 13, 2012, 01:09 PM
I think iOS 6 is going to unify the UI on the iPhone and the iPad. The "chrome" will be silver on both devices compared to the current: silver on the iPad and blue on the iPhone.

Oh boy was this far off... I wish. Unfortunately, Apple did the absolute opposite.

ct2k7
Jun 13, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oh boy was this far off... I wish. Unfortunately, Apple did the absolute opposite.

If it's any consolation, Maps has the silver chrome UI :)

mentaluproar
Jun 13, 2012, 09:52 PM
About battery drain, you are both right...

A brighter screen decreases battery life, but not because of the white. THe backlight is brighter, increasing power draw.

A darker screen increases battery life because of the dimmer backlight, not the colors. The impact of shifting those pixels is nil.

As for the appearance, I really liked the pin striping. It looked friendly. This one looks cold, like android.

iPhoneApple
Jun 13, 2012, 10:02 PM
The dark UI looks really good to me. It would be nice to get an option in UI style though.

remingtonjd
Jun 13, 2012, 10:06 PM
I think you're right. Lately, Apple has been becoming more like Adobe in the sense that they are using multiple styles and designs across their devices. To me, it seems that they are going through their design philosophies and unifying them. In my opinion, I like this brighter UI; it looks great on the white iPhone 4S.