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quigleybc
Jul 15, 2005, 07:43 PM
It's called the iControl from M-Audio

http://www.m-audio.com/messe/interface/pages/en/icontrol.htm

it's supposed to look like the Garageband GUI

I'm not even sure if it's out yet

But it seems kind of cool


If anyone's used one, could you post a little review?

Thanks

:)



quigleybc
Jul 18, 2005, 04:59 PM
I guess not....

pulsewidth947
Jul 19, 2005, 04:49 PM
M-Audio are fantastic. Always bringing something out that makes you wanna use even MORE software :)

As far as I know it hasnt been released, although I havent researched that much as I dont use GarageBand. It should make GarageBand a much more pleasant experience for the people that use it though. I especially like the big chunky jog-wheel, the styling and thhe fact its bus powered. Good work M-Audio.

iWillard
Jul 24, 2005, 09:42 PM
I guess not....

I'm curious too... anyone used it...... now?

how about now?

....

now? :D

Sirus The Virus
Jul 24, 2005, 09:52 PM
I havent used one, but I was at CompUSA in the Mac area and I overheard a guy who was talking to the head of the Mac department about the iControl and the guy mentioned that he had one in his car. He went out to get it but I had to go so never got to see it. But they are out, and they do exist.

iWillard
Jul 24, 2005, 09:55 PM
I havent used one, but I was at CompUSA in the Mac area and I overheard a guy who was talking to the head of the Mac department about the iControl and the guy mentioned that he had one in his car. He went out to get it but I had to go so never got to see it. But they are out, and they do exist.

oh I held one for sale at the apple store today... but wanted to check out reviews to see what people say... i realize it's limited to only garageband, but that's all I use anyway... It's a bit annoying to always have to click on everything to tweek music in GB... it's too new for reviews i guess... :(

Duff-Man
Jul 24, 2005, 10:14 PM
Duff-Man says...I have not tried that unit but am seriously considering their Trigger Finger (http://www.m-audio.com/messe/interface/pages/en/trigger.htm) for doing my drum parts....oh yeah!

quigleybc
Jul 26, 2005, 07:38 PM
oh I held one for sale at the apple store today... but wanted to check out reviews to see what people say... i realize it's limited to only garageband, but that's all I use anyway... It's a bit annoying to always have to click on everything to tweek music in GB... it's too new for reviews i guess... :(




Hi,

I think that the iControl is also usuable with Logic 7. I have a foggy memory of reading that somewhere. But it makes sense.

So, who's gonna post the first review?
:eek:

pulsewidth947
Jul 27, 2005, 09:27 AM
You should be able to use it with any sequencer that lets you program remote controls. Most sequencers have MIDI learn features to learn controls easily. So thats Logic, Reason, Cubase and possibly Pro Tools sorted.

quigleybc
Jul 28, 2005, 05:56 PM
You should be able to use it with any sequencer that lets you program remote controls. Most sequencers have MIDI learn features to learn controls easily. So thats Logic, Reason, Cubase and possibly Pro Tools sorted.




Ya, using this with reason would be awsome, reason rocks, but i find that the knobs and sliders are soooo tiny, I wish they could add a zoom feature or something. But using the iControl with reason could solve all my tweaking woes.

good call :D

pulsewidth947
Jul 29, 2005, 09:50 AM
Ya, using this with reason would be awsome, reason rocks, but i find that the knobs and sliders are soooo tiny, I wish they could add a zoom feature or something. But using the iControl with reason could solve all my tweaking woes.

If you are using Reason (3.0), I recommend getting one of the Behringer units (either the BCR2000 (http://www.behringer.com/BCR2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG) if you want just knobs, or BCF2000 (http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG) if you want sliders too). You have rotary encoders with LEDs so you know where your settings are at onscreen, and with the BCF you get motorised (!) faders plus encoders.

I got a BCR2000, and it was good with Reason 2.5, but now Reason 3 supports controller feedback, and autofinding of your unit its amazing. The first time you click on a device and all the LEDs move to the position they are onscreen is a wonderful sight :)

Very reasonably priced too - 82.99 for the BCR2000, 124.99 for the BCF2000 (from Digital Village (http://www.dv247.com/)).

They plug in your USB port, and have the usual MIDI ports should you wish to use them with hardware MIDI gear.

quigleybc
Aug 12, 2005, 07:36 PM
I figured I should follow up on this thread because I started it :)


For those of you who are interested, there is review of the iControl over at Mac Jams

http://www.macobserver.com/columns/rantsandraves/2005/20050722.shtml

The guy refers to it as being "cute" so i will allow you to draw your own conclusions.

faintember
Aug 12, 2005, 09:36 PM
I figured I should follow up on this thread because I started it :)


For those of you who are interested, there is review of the iControl over at Mac Jams

http://www.macobserver.com/columns/rantsandraves/2005/20050722.shtml

The guy refers to it as being "cute" so i will allow you to draw your own conclusions.
I just read the review that you posted, and now, more than ever, i have decided that M-Audio has hired some Fisher Price designers to make the iControl.

The lack of drivers that allow you to reconfigure the iControl kind of stinks, but i bet you could do it with JunXion(takes pretty much any USB device and allows you to output MIDI data).

Better still, it's USB bus-powered, so it doesn't need a bulky power adapter, making it a dream to use with a PowerBook or iBook for truly mobile recording.
So, all i need is my PB/iBook, my audio interface, and my iControl! Wow, that is portable! </sarcasm>

M-Audio makes some great products, but this one suffers from a lack of features. Add simple audio i/o, MIDI i/o and make it a firewire interface for around $250 and they would have many more buyers.

Hummm, $130 for a "mouse" that only works with one program. Ill stick with my trackpad for now. :rolleyes:

Geez, i am cynical tonight!

quigleybc
Aug 15, 2005, 03:37 PM
Geez, i am cynical tonight!



you may be cynical, but I pretty much agree with you...

it does look frighteningly "toyish"

i guess they are trying to cater to amateurs and beginners that use Gargeband for fun.

I don't know, oh well, it'll probably drop in price in like six weeks anyway, so maybe then it will be more appealing.

Any other opinions? :)

entasmiquity
Aug 16, 2005, 12:52 PM
I picked up an iControl a couple weeks ago; here are my thoughts:

First, it might be helpful to hear about me and the music I record, so that you can gauge your needs against mine.

I am an amateur with no ambition to become a professional, and frankly no real talent to do so either. I've been writing and recording basic rock and pop songs for about 15 years using several cassette 4-tracks and digital 8-tracks over the years.

A few years ago, I tried moving my recording work over to my computer w/ Pro Tools LE and Logic Express, but both proved too complicated; I would rather spend my scarce free time writing than learning how to use the computer.

Garageband convinced me to give computer recording another try. It's fun and easy, but lacks the tactical control I enjoyed w/ the 4- and 8-tracks (such as the Boss BR-864) I've used over the years.

For me, iControl fits the bill nearly perfectly.

Here are some general comments:

1. There has never been an easier-to-use piece of gear. Plug it in to the USB port, and Garageband instantly recognizes it--it just works.

2. The iControl is very well made. The buttons and knobs have a good, solid feel. The iControl does not completely faithfully re-create the feel of a 4- or 8-track or a larger controller like the Digi 002. But it is still satisfying, and a huge leap over mouse-based tweaking. It also has subtle lights that add an appealing glow to active controls.

3. The included "MIDI In" port makes it very easy to connect a keyboard or other controller. Of course, Garageband recognizes it instantly.

4. The iControl lets you control volume/pan of 8 tracks at a time with endless rotary encoders. While a part of me would prefer faders, like on most controllers, the endless knobs have their purpose. For example, when you adjust the volume for tracks 1-8, faders would remain in those positions even when you are using them to adjust tracks 9-16. That makes fine adjustments difficult. (If track 1 was set at a high volume, the fader is still on a high volume when you use that fader for track 9. Assuming that track 9 had been set on a low volume, you cannot make a fine adjustment to this track without moving the fader from high to low volume, which would throw track 9's volume far out of whack.) This is not a problem with endless knobs, which unlike faders, have only relative values.

5. The jog wheel is great and can be used to scroll directly to the point in your song that you're looking for. This and the big "record" button make "punching in" a lot easier and more precise.

6. The knobs can be used to adjust EQ settings as well as instrument attributes. This makes iControl a lot more powerful than is apparent at first blush. While not quite as intuitive as the transport controls and the track volume/pan controls, these features are easy to learn and fairly robust.

Hard-core Logic Pro or Reason users will likely prefer to move along. This product is Absolutely NOT for you virtual professionals. But for those (like me) who want to make the most out of Garageband and get some of the tactile experience of using a 4- or 8-track, the iControl is a good investment. It's also a lot of fun.

WinterMute
Aug 16, 2005, 03:02 PM
Some good info and I think your right entasmiquity, this is for occasional and low-key users of Garageband, in absence of any other interface it'd work fine.

I think it's a shame they didn't add a mic input to it for completeness, but there you go.

Not sure it would have helped me much at the weekend mind:

quigleybc
Aug 16, 2005, 03:45 PM
I picked up an iControl a couple weeks ago; here are my thoughts:



Great review, I think I prefer your review to the one on Macjams,

I wonder if works with Logic Express 7.1? Anyone know? The "it just works" is a great selling point for sure, and I agree with you that spending 90% of your creative time digging through manuals and tutorials can be counter productive to say the least. I for one am a huge fan of Garageband, for the most part. I like using Garageband for quick ideas and then when I feel like I am on to something, I load it up in Logic. If the iControl worked in Logic as well as Garageband then I would think more seriously about it.

Thanks for the great review :)

faintember
Aug 16, 2005, 04:38 PM
A great review from a user, what quigleybc has been looking for.

Sometimes i forget that not everyone is a hard-core computer music person.
I guess sometimes higher educational studies make a person more apt to have tunnel vision. Thanks for knocking me up-side the head! :p :D