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MacRumors
Jun 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
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As noted by TechCrunch (http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/07/facebook-app-center-mobile/), some users of Facebook's app for iOS have noticed the social network's new "App Center" tab showing up in the navigation menu within the app. The feature is designed as a one-stop destination for app discovery on a variety of platforms, with recommendations based on Facebook's editors' selections and personalized by drawing from the usage of each person's friends.Similar to the interfaces that the company showed off in early May when it announced the App Center plans, you can see a left-hand navigation feature within Facebook's feature-heavy iOS app. Apps with unread notifications appear in the top section. If you click through, you see the App Center (and you'll note that the logo in the screenshot also matches what Facebook has previously released).http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/06/facebook_app_center_ios_1.jpg


Within the app center, a "Social Picks" tab offers apps based on what the user's friends have used, while a "Top Apps" tab contains picks from Facebook's editors as determined by quality and popularity. The listings include iOS, Android, HTML5, and desktop apps, with users able to click directly through to the App Store or other marketplaces to download apps.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/06/facebook_app_center_ios_2.jpg


The Next Web argues (http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/06/07/heres-why-apple-will-welcome-facebooks-app-center-with-open-arms/) that the addition of App Center will be a major boost for Apple, helping quality apps to surface from among Facebook's hundreds of millions of users and those top apps to be easily accessible to other users.By launching this App Center, Facebook is actually doing Apple a gigantic favor in two regards. First, it will become a serious point of distribution for Apple developers, secondarily it will be a great avenue to talk Facebook developers into building iOS apps if they haven't so far. [...]

Facebook's App Center won't be clouded by anything other than actual data and usage. Imagine that, apps will actually bubble up to the top based on how often people engage with them.After several years of what has appeared to be a tenuous relationship between Apple and Facebook, it certainly appears that the two companies are now moving to work more closely together. At the D10 conference late last month, Apple CEO Tim Cook hinted at Facebook integration (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/29/tim-cook-at-d10-hints-at-facebook-integration-and-siri-improvements/) and perhaps other announcements in that vein, urging users to "stay tuned".For us, we want to provide customers simple and elegant ways to do the things they want to do. Facebook has hundreds of millions of customers. So, anyone that has an iPhone or iPad, we want them to have the best experience with Facebook on those platforms. So stay tuned.Just a few days after Cook's comments, it was reported that Apple will indeed show off Facebook integration in iOS 6 (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/01/ios-6-to-bring-systemwide-facebook-integration/) at next week's Worldwide Developers Conference, making it much easier for users to post photos, status updates, and other content to the social network from within iOS.

With Facebook also feeding back into the App Store through its own App Center on iOS, it certainly seems that the companies are moving quickly to solidify their relationship for their mutual benefit and to the benefit of the millions of users who rely on both Apple devices and Facebook's social network.

Article Link: Facebook's App Center Begins Appearing in iOS App (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/07/facebooks-app-center-begins-appearing-in-ios-app/)



Brian Buttplug
Jun 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
Hoo rah :p

Blakjack
Jun 7, 2012, 02:36 PM
Oh the horror!!

MasterHowl
Jun 7, 2012, 02:38 PM
They need to get the basic functions working (posting things, commenting, looking at photographs) before they add new features! C'mon Facebook...

AustinIllini
Jun 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
Any they need a facebook phone...why?

jasonxneo
Jun 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
Im still worrying about ios 6 facebook integration :mad:

slapple
Jun 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
So this App Center features "Facebook apps" or "iPhone apps"? There's a difference.

ThunderSkunk
Jun 7, 2012, 02:42 PM
Facebook Total Integration.

Perhaps... just perhaps, and I know this is going out on a limb here, but what if, I dunno, I don't want to be inundated with notifications about what every other person I've ever met or heard of is doing at any given moment, and don't feel the need to broadcast my every move to everyone in the world?

This self-promotion culture of do-nothing busybodies is crossing over from obnoxious to revolting.

topmounter
Jun 7, 2012, 02:43 PM
I prefer an autonomous Facebook.

nutmac
Jun 7, 2012, 02:43 PM
My biggest gripe with apps for Facebook is that I have little clue as to what they are going to do with my account.

For instance, marketplace app Oodle posts every little details of what I do on my timeline for everyone to see (e.g., items that I just viewed).

And if I can collect $1 every time my Facebook friends post "I just achieved level 51 on Farmville or other embarrassing games", I'd be as rich as Mark Zuckerberg.

urbanj
Jun 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
Am I the only one that absolutely hates apps within Facebook?

I go as far typing in whatever I see in my feed into Google to bypass the crap like article links or that SocialCam thing.

topmounter
Jun 7, 2012, 02:45 PM
My biggest gripe with apps for Facebook is that I have little clue as to what they are going to do with my account.

For instance, marketplace app Oodle posts every little details of what I do on my timeline for everyone to see (e.g., items that I just viewed).

And if I can collect $1 every time my Facebook friends post "I just achieved level 51 on Farmville or other embarrassing games", I'd be as rich as Mark Zuckerberg.

I nuked all my Facebook Apps a long time ago. "Hide all by..." is my primary activity when logged into Facebook.

F3ynman
Jun 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
Yo, you need to charge your iphone.

scrappledog
Jun 7, 2012, 02:48 PM
I really, really don't want Facebook as part of iOS. Not even happy Apple is going this route when it is just as easy to make it downloadable content. Please allow me to opt out in every way possible, or better yet delete any Facebook related components from my phone.

Thanks.

No use for Facebook whatsoever.

fisha
Jun 7, 2012, 02:48 PM
...moving quickly to solidify their relationship for their mutual benefit and to the benefit of the millions of users who rely on both Apple devices and Facebook's social network.

has the author actually used the facebook app recently.

Facebook has lost its way imho. too diverse to the point its lost focus on doing the simple things well. Cant be bothered with anything of it other than keeping in contact with friends when I need to.

AustinIllini
Jun 7, 2012, 02:50 PM
Facebook Total Integration.

Perhaps... just perhaps, and I know this is going out on a limb here, but what if, I dunno, I don't want to be inundated with notifications about what every other person I've ever met or heard of is doing at any given moment, and don't feel the need to broadcast my every move to everyone in the world?

This self-promotion culture of do-nothing busybodies is crossing over from obnoxious to revolting.

My fear now is that these Facebook apps can now access information from your phone. I have nothing to hide on my Facebook page, but my phone is a lot more personal. Maybe I did this, but I can't recall ever permitting Facebook to do this.

mazz0
Jun 7, 2012, 02:53 PM
I don't think this is indicative of a closer relationship between Apple and Facebook. Anyone can link directly to apps in the app-store, and I bet they'll do this for Android at some point too if they haven't already.

If anything this is a threat to Apple - it gets people used to thinking of Facebook as the place to go for apps, not Apple, and people's phones will be more about being tied to their Facebook account than their Apple ID. In time perhaps HTML apps will succeed native ones, and then people will be able to switch platform (perhaps to a Facebook phone) without worrying about the apps they've invested in on the old platform.

Of course, while Facebook continue to make rubbish apps I don't think Apple have much to worry about, but that could change...

jonnysods
Jun 7, 2012, 02:56 PM
Facebook on the iPhone suuuuuuuuuucks. It's so buggy, it keeps telling me I have new messages when I don't, sometimes it doesn't post photos, it's unresponsive, it needs some patches rather than new features.

I know, first world problems.

needfx
Jun 7, 2012, 02:58 PM
lets get some new hardware first, worry about social later

northernbaldy
Jun 7, 2012, 02:59 PM
I do wish they would piss off with all this Facebook nonsense :(

Blu-Ray
Jun 7, 2012, 03:02 PM
I don't care how well it is integrated, I'm not giving into the world of Facebook.

ndpitch
Jun 7, 2012, 03:03 PM
I dunno about everyone else, but the Facebook app on my iPhone 4 is nearly unusable. It is deathly slow, the alerts don't go away when you click on them, and other various bugs. I rarely use it. I don't think we need to be adding additional stuff. If anything, take things away and make it more simple.

Facebook is starting to balloon into a mess. Multiple apps for different things? Camera, messenger, main app. What's next? I don't want to go to 4 different places to use Facebook. I think they're starting to lose focus. Bring it all together in one app that's small, efficient, and streamlined.

WeegieMac
Jun 7, 2012, 03:06 PM
This is why the app is nothing more than a buggy web app.

It's so they can toss out these updates and bypass the apple approval process. By updating the web code and making the app nothing more than a web app portal, they are in control of the updates.

bigdaddyc188
Jun 7, 2012, 03:07 PM
Surprise, posted on 9to5 an hour ago and now here!

arkhanjel
Jun 7, 2012, 03:10 PM
They need to get their normal app working flawlessly before they add in all the junk that makes things worse. With all the bugs in the app now we'll be tapping to go one place and end up in those stupid apps just like we do now with it sending us to the nearby section.

gatearray
Jun 7, 2012, 03:14 PM
I really, really don't want Facebook as part of iOS. Not even happy Apple is going this route when it is just as easy to make it downloadable content. Please allow me to opt out in every way possible, or better yet delete any Facebook related components from my phone.

Thanks.

No use for Facebook whatsoever.

I agree 100%, in fact, I can't for the life of me understand why Apple would "lend" their hard-earned platform to Facebook by giving them a spot baked Right into the OS.

What's the upside for Apple?

Is there anyone who has chosen to not purchase an iPhone because Facebook is not baked in? Will including Facebook at the OS level make anyone specifically chose the iPhone over another cell phone? As far as I can tell, the answer to both of these questions is no.

Furthermore, without Apple's help to once and for all "legitimize" FB by adding it deep inside iOS, the FB fad would fade away at an even faster rate than it is presently. Wouldn't that be a good thing for Cupertino?

Unless FB integration is a pay-to-play move from FB using their vast fortune of IPO funny money, what's in it for Apple?

ghostface147
Jun 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
They still have a crappy app overall. Notifications don't work very often. It's very slow to load someone's wall. It just sucks overall.

the.omnibus
Jun 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
I think the eventual system-wide integration of Facebook is good news for Apple fans who find Game Center a ghost town. Finding friends in iOS 5's Game Center is a joke. Users should be able to search through their Twitter followers and Facebook friends to find fellow iOS gamers, instead of just searching by email address or Game Center username.

Northgrove
Jun 7, 2012, 03:16 PM
I like FB as a platform, but their mobile app startegy with a web page wrapper as well as look & feel on the web is so sad and boring.

Since apps on iPhone don't benefit from the vastly faster Javascript engine in the "pure" Safari Mobile app, using http://m.facebook.com is actually much faster than using their app! Especially when looking at comments to statuses and photos, but less jerky scrolling too. Try it! Visit m.facebook via Safari on iPhone. You might be shocked. But you can't upload photos that way, naturally.

And when an app is slower than the dumb website, you know there's a problem.

vebs
Jun 7, 2012, 03:16 PM
I by no means consider myself anti-Facebook, but the whole Facebook experience feels like it's grinding me down these days. Everything is getting more complicated and obtuse.

Whereas before I'd browse and interact with the site for pleasure, I find myself only using it when I need to lately.

They should just keep things simple.

Shrink
Jun 7, 2012, 03:20 PM
I'm not involved in any social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc.), so perhaps it's not my place to comment.

But it seems to me that if you don't like FB integration, or FB apps, or whatever...don't click on them.

Unless I'm missing something (certainly a good possibility), nobody is forcing anybody to use the FB functions. It's presence has no effect on me or any others not involved in social media.

I don't really care, or mind, having all this FB stuff since I don't have anything to do with it. If others like it, then let them use it...:D

Mad-B-One
Jun 7, 2012, 03:30 PM
About 20min ago, I just kicked FB out of my Notifications because it is annoying to me that you have to "forbid" facebook apps to let others send you invitations instead of "allowing" apps to do that. If I want an App to communicate with me, I will certainly allow it. Otherwise - leave me alone! After 10x Amazon movie gifts within a week, I'd rather not. I have Netflix and that is good enough for me. If FB is not changing ways people can spam everyone with notifications through Apps, I will just delete my FB account alltogether - especially if the dooming notification spam hail is dawning with iOS 6. :mad:

Asclepio
Jun 7, 2012, 03:34 PM
i'm on macrumors or 9to5mac?

840quadra
Jun 7, 2012, 03:38 PM
And when an app is slower than the dumb website, you know there's a problem.


I agree, I don't understand their focus on adding things to their products all the time, and rarely doing any performance issue patches.

There are times I get beach balls on the fastest i7 machines I have when just using the website on Firefox or Safari. The Mobile application is mostly worthless, I only keep it because it sends me notifications for happenings within my profile.

rboy505
Jun 7, 2012, 03:38 PM
I use facebook a bit, and much of it is because, much to my annoyance, a variety of things I'm involved with have chosen to have a fb page instead of maintaining their own site. So I get how fb is the juggernaut that can't be slowed. But I also poke around and waste time on it for my own amusement like most people, and I don't see any upside to this development. Can't imagine why anyone would prefer to use it this way over the way they've been using it. What most people who enjoy fb DON'T like about it is how it's got its tentacles spread over too much of their life instead of being a fun place to go to and wile away some time, like it used to be.

This feels to me like the warning shot of the shark jump, where the negatives finally outweigh the positives.

-LikesMac-
Jun 7, 2012, 03:39 PM
Who doesn't use Facebook much/at all? I'm in that group. :D

Looper121
Jun 7, 2012, 03:41 PM
They need to get the basic functions working (posting things, commenting, looking at photographs) before they add new features! C'mon Facebook...


Agreed, I think they need to just get it to work before adding on functionality that's going to slow it even more.

saggyhaggis
Jun 7, 2012, 03:42 PM
I just dont get it........I think facebook has had its day in the sun and people are becoming increasingly concerned with how their data is being collected and used for advertisements.

Given the size of Zuckerberg's company its laughable that they cant get the most basic features in their app right. Whilst I have been a Facebook user for quite a while I
now only check it every couple of weeks, only to realize I missed nothing.

Are we going to get farmville notifications and poked (behave!) 10 times a day?

The fact that Apple want to integrate this service is a bad thing and I doubt that Mr Jobs would have entertained the idea.

andrewzz
Jun 7, 2012, 03:42 PM
Bleh

Swift
Jun 7, 2012, 03:53 PM
I have responded to about two app requests or Facemesses that pop up on Facebook. I've deleted both of them. Social gaming? Horribly boring. I always suspect that Facebook just wants to get its talons on my data, and I won't let them.

andrewzz
Jun 7, 2012, 03:54 PM
Facebook Total Integration.

Perhaps... just perhaps, and I know this is going out on a limb here, but what if, I dunno, I don't want to be inundated with notifications about what every other person I've ever met or heard of is doing at any given moment, and don't feel the need to broadcast my every move to everyone in the world?

This self-promotion culture of do-nothing busybodies is crossing over from obnoxious to revolting.

For some of us, ie adults, it has always been revolting. FB appeals to teenager mentality.

Swift
Jun 7, 2012, 03:55 PM
I just dont get it........I think facebook has had its day in the sun and people are becoming increasingly concerned with how their data is being collected and used for advertisements.

Given the size of Zuckerberg's company its laughable that they cant get the most basic features in their app right. Whilst I have been a Facebook user for quite a while I
now only check it every couple of weeks, only to realize I missed nothing.

Are we going to get farmville notifications and poked (behave!) 10 times a day?

The fact that Apple want to integrate this service is a bad thing and I doubt that Mr Jobs would have entertained the idea.

Well, it's the biggest thing around, and my family is on it. So it's a quick way of getting in touch. That's about the end of it. Now that they've opened the casino with that PPO, I suspect they'll quickly lose steam. So, in a year, Apple will withdraw its okay.

bpeeps
Jun 7, 2012, 04:12 PM
Facebook Total Integration.

Perhaps... just perhaps, and I know this is going out on a limb here, but what if, I dunno, I don't want to be inundated with notifications about what every other person I've ever met or heard of is doing at any given moment, and don't feel the need to broadcast my every move to everyone in the world?

This self-promotion culture of do-nothing busybodies is crossing over from obnoxious to revolting.

Then turn it off.

Carlanga
Jun 7, 2012, 04:19 PM
fix what's wrong w/ the app first THEN add new stuff...

mdelvecchio
Jun 7, 2012, 04:30 PM
and now we see why FB switched from a native app to a UIWebView "wrapper" app that has pitiful performance.

reden
Jun 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
Apps within Apps

Anki
Jun 7, 2012, 04:42 PM
Great. Adding new things when they can't even get the basics working.

FB, good luck on your world domination goals of 2012.

Konrad
Jun 7, 2012, 04:43 PM
What in hell is he cooking?

DavidFoster
Jun 7, 2012, 04:45 PM
I fervently hope that Apple will provide an option to ban any mention of or option involving or referring to Facebook from my iOS device. If they don't but an anti-Facebook option becomes available for jailbroken devices, well, I'm busting out just for that.

deannnnn
Jun 7, 2012, 04:52 PM
I also have a lot of problems with the Facebook app and did a quick test on my phone to prove how problematic it is.

Time the Facebook app took to load a profile over WiFi: 44 seconds
Time Mobile Safari took to load the full desktop site version of that same profile: 8 seconds

:confused:

Tinmania
Jun 7, 2012, 04:53 PM
I just dont get it........I think facebook has had its day in the sun and people are becoming increasingly concerned with how their data is being collected and used for advertisements.

Given the size of Zuckerberg's company its laughable that they cant get the most basic features in their app right. Whilst I have been a Facebook user for quite a while I
now only check it every couple of weeks, only to realize I missed nothing.
What I don't get is how Facebook is often touted as having the "greatest minds and talent of the day." Yet I have not seen anything great created. Often all I see is change for change sake (I still dislike the transparent overlay for viewing photos--I didn't mind how it worked previously).

What exactly are they doing during these "hackathons?" Baking cookies?

Meanwhile I am constantly impressed with what Google has done with their core product: web searching. It's at the point now where I think it's reading my mind as it auto-fills what I am looking for after typing just a few characters. Yet, for the most part, it's not much different than it was a decade ago.

With Facebook if I am trying to figure something out and need to google it I need to limit my search to the last month or it will be painfully out of date.




Michael

MasterHowl
Jun 7, 2012, 05:08 PM
The main (actually thinking about it, only reason) I use FaceBook is because of the groups on there.

I'm a university student, and there are groups for everything I'm involved with... the school I belong to, the degree program I'm doing, societies I'm part of, my halls of residence... it goes on.

I wish organisations would make and maintain their own websites so I don't have to have FaceBook just to have basic access to information on events and notices!

ThisIsNotMe
Jun 7, 2012, 05:23 PM
Any they need a facebook phone...why?

The exact same reason Google needed a phone.

NAG
Jun 7, 2012, 05:28 PM
The exact same reason Google needed a phone.

To make phone calls.

Tinmania
Jun 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
The exact same reason Google needed a phone.

Google doesn't have a phone. Try again.




Michael

bushido
Jun 7, 2012, 05:46 PM
Google doesn't have a phone. Try again.




Michael

but they do?

e.g. HTC G1, Nexus One & Nexus S are google branded

edit: what are you downvoting me for??? its the truth

pablo7
Jun 7, 2012, 05:50 PM
Facebook will be the MySpace of 2013. That is all.

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google doesn't have a phone. Try again.




Michael

You sir, fail!

bushido
Jun 7, 2012, 05:50 PM
Facebook will be the MySpace of 2013. That is all.

not unless there's a new "social network" coming along and i'm not talking about google+ here

Tumblr and Twitter target a different group

pablo7
Jun 7, 2012, 05:53 PM
not unless there's a new "social network" coming along and i'm not talking about google+ here

Tumblr and Twitter target a different group

Social networks =FAIL

bushido
Jun 7, 2012, 05:55 PM
Social networks =FAIL

expect not, unless you're 40 years old ...

events on facebook for example is the only way to keep up with ... well events nowadays, same goes for uni related things like someone else has already mentioned and with friends living far away

Tinmania
Jun 7, 2012, 06:00 PM
but they do?

HTC G1, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus are google branded
They run Android but HTC and Samsung make those phones.

Apple announced they were making a phone and made one--including the OS.

Facebook is rumored to be coming out with a phone. Facebook will never be able to pull off an OS like iOS or Android--let alone a phone to go with it.




Michael

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You sir, fail!
You need better reading skills, sir.

bushido
Jun 7, 2012, 06:02 PM
They run Android but HTC and Samsung make those phones.

Apple announced they were making a phone and made one--including the OS.

Facebook is rumored to be coming out with a phone. Facebook will never be able to pull off an OS like iOS or Android--let alone a phone to go with it.

Michael

so you are trying to tell me that Facebook would built their own factories to produce those phones? yea right, it'll be a samsung or whatever phone with a facebook os slapped over it

and there are Google specific smartphones, the ones i mentioned run the basic android os without any custom tweaks like samsungs touch wiz. those Google phones also get the android updates first and have a google branded logo on the back and have to meet google's standards to become a "Google" Phone for example a google phone is required to have a curved back

http://images04.olx.in/ui/20/43/29/1338420362_388613429_1-Pictures-of--6-Months-Old-Samsung-Google-Nexus-S-for-Sale.jpg

GS17
Jun 7, 2012, 06:02 PM
I hope this doesn't mean I'll get forced to "upgrade" to timeline, if it does I think that's it with FB

Tinmania
Jun 7, 2012, 06:25 PM
so you are trying to tell me that Facebook would built their own factories to produce those phones? yea right, it'll be a samsung or whatever phone with a facebook os slapped over it
Facebook create a reliable OS when they can't even get their basic app right??? Suuuuuure! But don't bank on it. lol

If anything they will--with expensive help--cobble together some kind of POS running an older version of Android to sell to developing markets (as in cheap).




Michael

jlasoon
Jun 7, 2012, 06:28 PM
Just as useless as their IPO.

chrimux
Jun 7, 2012, 06:33 PM
And I do not want this company to get ever access to my data.
"Quality" AND "Facebook" is impossible. Should be OR.

Maybe it is time to sell the Apple shares and move on. I wish Jobs was back. They don't need to get a larger customer- and userbase to be successful. Apple has enough money without thirdclass sniffing Facebook.

jclardy
Jun 7, 2012, 06:36 PM
I might consider using this, after Facebook overhauls their entire app.

Most of the time it doesn't even load the correct profile picture in your friends list.

chrimux
Jun 7, 2012, 06:54 PM
I'm not involved in any social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc.), so perhaps it's not my place to comment.

But it seems to me that if you don't like FB integration, or FB apps, or whatever...don't click on them.
<....>


I am not sure if it is that easy. Like with Twitter, there will surely be account management already integrated into the system preferences. Twitter and Facebook are third-parties, they should not have a built-in place anywhere. If I want to use it, I can download the app for that. But if I don't want to, I do not want to have any traces of that on my device.

As with Facebook, I tried it to see for myself and I hate it. It is very hard to find all those privacy settings, whenever I play a game I give this game (the company behind it) accessright to all my contacts and other information and I have to find those settings to revoke the rights.

I am pretty sure that with deep Facebook integration lots of people will give Facebook access to their private contact list, in case of business use also to their business contacts and maybe even to location data ("for finding friends nearby") without even realizing it.

Shrink
Jun 7, 2012, 08:05 PM
I am not sure if it is that easy. Like with Twitter, there will surely be account management already integrated into the system preferences. Twitter and Facebook are third-parties, they should not have a built-in place anywhere. If I want to use it, I can download the app for that. But if I don't want to, I do not want to have any traces of that on my device.

As with Facebook, I tried it to see for myself and I hate it. It is very hard to find all those privacy settings, whenever I play a game I give this game (the company behind it) accessright to all my contacts and other information and I have to find those settings to revoke the rights.

I am pretty sure that with deep Facebook integration lots of people will give Facebook access to their private contact list, in case of business use also to their business contacts and maybe even to location data ("for finding friends nearby") without even realizing it.

Interesting point.

If you are correct, then I don't want it on my computer. I don't want anything to do with social media.

(This is not a judgement on others interest in social media...just one man's choice.:D)

LachlanH
Jun 7, 2012, 09:06 PM
I'm 25. In theory I should love Facebook. All my friends are on it, I have tried it once or twice, but honestly..... I despise it.

I don't use it all, haven't had a profile for about a year and even when I did I never used it. I don't feel as if I am missing out on anything.

Same with Twitter, except at least twitter isn't selling your personal information to advertising companies and then using you as a social billboard. (Honestly, who joins or 'likes' products on FB? You are helping them advertise people)


Myspace died a quick death and my god I hope FB does the same soon. There is far too much advertising in our lives as it is. Seriously, look what Google did to YouTube, it's got more ads then the infomercial TV channels.

I'm with the guy that wants an option in the next iPhone that removes any and all mention of FB from every menu the phone has.

entropys
Jun 7, 2012, 09:35 PM
I am not sure if it is that easy. Like with Twitter, there will surely be account management already integrated into the system preferences. Twitter and Facebook are third-parties, they should not have a built-in place anywhere. If I want to use it, I can download the app for that. But if I don't want to, I do not want to have any traces of that on my device.

As with Facebook, I tried it to see for myself and I hate it. It is very hard to find all those privacy settings, whenever I play a game I give this game (the company behind it) accessright to all my contacts and other information and I have to find those settings to revoke the rights.

I am pretty sure that with deep Facebook integration lots of people will give Facebook access to their private contact list, in case of business use also to their business contacts and maybe even to location data ("for finding friends nearby") without even realizing it.

Facebook makes money by selling you to advertisers. And it is sneaky about it. Set up a FB page with the privacy settings you want, then go back and look at those settings a few months later. Often they have miraculously changed back to the default (ie. Public!). If you ever get an email telling you that FB is changing its privacy agreement, they are really telling you they have reset your settings to default. Becuase at the end of the day, it wants to use your private data.

And do not change over to the timeline feature. Anyone using timeline is public. End of story. Facebook makes google look like saints.

mattwolfmatt
Jun 7, 2012, 09:44 PM
Yo dawg.

macbookflasher
Jun 7, 2012, 09:51 PM
yo it is awesome .It is a tremendous job done by Facebook .

Papajohn56
Jun 7, 2012, 10:36 PM
Too bad FB for iOS is terrible.

bedifferent
Jun 7, 2012, 10:40 PM
There is far too much advertising in our lives as it is. Seriously, look what Google did to YouTube, it's got more ads then the infomercial TV channels.

I'm with the guy that wants an option in the next iPhone that removes any and all mention of FB from every menu the phone has.

Agreed, especially with regards to too much advertising in our lives. It's interesting that some believe Facebook brings us together... online. Yet owning my own business, and having friends working in HR, the younger generation is increasingly becoming less socially adept due to a growing dependency on the internet/text messaging/social networking. We've become physically distant. While it's great that we can keep in touch with friends/family far away, it's definitely negatively impacting society's face to face social interaction and skills. Lord, interviewing twenty-somethings and recent college grad's for work it's alarming. I had more than a few text message during our interviews! Just look around at restaurants and public spaces, teenagers and such sit at tables facebooking and texting without even acknowledging their friends across from them.

I tend to limit my time on MacRumors; it's the only online site I frequent and it's important for work in IT/Communications to keep up with Apple news. However, I don't let it dominate my social life, life is too short. While we can turn off these new social integration features, I wish Apple would focus more on other improvements (especially with OS X and social networking integration in Mac desktops, do not like). I'd prefer third party app's as opposed to more OS integration. :)

coolfactor
Jun 7, 2012, 10:50 PM
So this App Center features "Facebook apps" or "iPhone apps"? There's a difference.

I know. This article confuses me. It seems like the author is saying that Facebook will be promoting and distributing iOS apps, but that's not the case at all. These are Facebook apps. Still a huge opportunity for Facebook, but I hardly see how Apple will benefit. The only way Apple will benefit is if Apple delivers really great Facebook integration into iOS 6. People will respond to that by buying more iOS devices.

Jewbeard
Jun 7, 2012, 10:52 PM
The title of my post says it all. It's a joke. Apple, leave this stupid service for the children (or adult children) who use it. A "walled garden" and the AOL of the 00s.

coolfactor
Jun 7, 2012, 10:53 PM
What I don't get is how Facebook is often touted as having the "greatest minds and talent of the day." Yet I have not seen anything great created. Often all I see is change for change sake (I still dislike the transparent overlay for viewing photos--I didn't mind how it worked previously).

Facebook is an amazing achievement, and a lot of their R&D has improved a lot of core technologies that have advanced the web as a whole - improvements to how PHP is executed, caching technologies, client-server communications and protocols, the list goes on.

Sometimes it's hard to imagine that Facebook is a website given how well it is designed down to the pixel level.

But I agree... change for change's sake... there's too much of that. They know that people will adapt, so they push on.

mrsir2009
Jun 7, 2012, 11:00 PM
Facebook Total Integration.

Perhaps... just perhaps, and I know this is going out on a limb here, but what if, I dunno, I don't want to be inundated with notifications about what every other person I've ever met or heard of is doing at any given moment, and don't feel the need to broadcast my every move to everyone in the world?

This self-promotion culture of do-nothing busybodies is crossing over from obnoxious to revolting.

Then don't use Facebook. I don't want that, so I don't use Facebook. Simple.

subsonix
Jun 7, 2012, 11:06 PM
Facebook is an amazing achievement

It's the scale they operate on that is a challenge, their achievement does not really relate to the actual content of the service they provide IMO. Others can and will do it better at some point.

i0Nic
Jun 7, 2012, 11:12 PM
I think this is very dangerous for Apple, they should be thinking carefully about how closely they partner with Facebook. Remember how thrilled Steve Jobs was in announcing the partnership with Google at the original iPhone launch? That hasn't turned out so well, with Google going on to launch Android less than a year later.

I've written a blog post about it here - http://www.peterpetrovski.com/post/24659320815/apple-should-be-afraid-of-facebook-app-center

ellsworth
Jun 7, 2012, 11:15 PM
I'm also a bit confused. I reviewed the video mentioned in the link and I still can't figure this out:

Facebook now offers apps. You can purchase apps and play them on your computer's screen right there on the page where you select the apps. Ok. Got.

Mobile Apps: When you select "Mobile Apps" it allows you to select an app like: Scramble With Friends. Once you make the selection, does it shoot you directly to the iOS App Store on your iPhone/iPod/iPad or do you have to input credit card/payment info completely separate from the iOS App Store?

Or. I Facebook just a secondary area to BROWSE for iOS apps and then when you want to purchase an app, it sends you a notification link on your iDevice to make the purchase on your iDevice through the App Store?

:confused:

Jewbeard
Jun 7, 2012, 11:17 PM
Facebook is an amazing achievement, and a lot of their R&D has improved a lot of core technologies that have advanced the web as a whole

Yeah, Facebook, with their amazing stances on privacy, open-source, and free software, is a real "friend" to the development community. Please!

iChrist
Jun 8, 2012, 12:42 AM
Google doesn't have a phone. Try again.




Michael

Why is tinman write lies and wrong in every post. Google phone is even in macrumor story. Can tinman read or is troll. Hmmmm

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The title of my post says it all. It's a joke. Apple, leave this stupid service for the children (or adult children) who use it. A "walled garden" and the AOL of the 00s.

Very true. This Facebook integration in iOS6 worries me, it has gotten to the point that just buying something online requires a Facebook login.

I wish Steve Jobs were still here, he would not allow this idiotic move. He was holding it off the whole time. Now the MBAs at Apple take advantage of his death. Sad.[COLOR="#808080"]

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Reach9
Jun 8, 2012, 01:24 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I was very apprehensive about using 3rd party apps on Facebook due to the privacy issue. I have no idea what kind of information they take from my account.

This is good news for Facebook for sure.

Zaphodsplanet
Jun 8, 2012, 01:25 AM
I am so freaking sick to death of Facebook. It's a joke. If you feel the need to waste every spare hour of your life posting God only knows what, while giving all your marketing data to Facebook then have at it. It's your life. All I know is it's a colossal waste of time in my opinion while at the same time they ask far too many personal questions. As with all web sites dedicated to narcissism... they eventually reach the end of their lifespan. It's only a matter of time until people say, "Face-what?".... just like they might say, "Myspace what?".

I will never install any FB crap on my iPad, iPhone, iPod or iMac....

My prediction.... 11 months from now... Faceplant stock.... $2 per share.

BTW... I had 4 or 5 accounts on FB for different web sites I had. But even killed those after I read this:
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/miller/120508

Who knows what kind of interesting stranger you may meet on Facebook. If you play your cards right you might get lucky and meet one of the many pedophiles posting kiddie porn on their web site.

coolfactor
Jun 8, 2012, 01:41 AM
Yeah, Facebook, with their amazing stances on privacy, open-source, and free software, is a real "friend" to the development community. Please!

If you want to take my comment out of context and then comment on it, go ahead, but write in crayons on your bedroom wall, not here where you look silly.

Privacy and technological advancement are two different things. I didn't talk about Privacy. :)

morechicken
Jun 8, 2012, 01:42 AM
I don't like FB at all. Get it out of my system.

Tee1up
Jun 8, 2012, 02:32 AM
I totally agree. Facebook is a tedious waste of time and I for one hope it is possible to complete ax anything related to FB, or I will rethink my OS of choice. I have to wonder if Steve would have got into bed with Zuckerberg in this fashion. :eek:


I really, really don't want Facebook as part of iOS. Not even happy Apple is going this route when it is just as easy to make it downloadable content. Please allow me to opt out in every way possible, or better yet delete any Facebook related components from my phone.

Thanks.

No use for Facebook whatsoever.

coltman75
Jun 8, 2012, 03:42 AM
Facebook makes money by selling you to advertisers. And it is sneaky about it. Set up a FB page with the privacy settings you want, then go back and look at those settings a few months later. Often they have miraculously changed back to the default (ie. Public!). If you ever get an email telling you that FB is changing its privacy agreement, they are really telling you they have reset your settings to default. Becuase at the end of the day, it wants to use your private data.

And do not change over to the timeline feature. Anyone using timeline is public. End of story. Facebook makes google look like saints.

This would be scary and a cause for alarm... if it was true.

Firstly, Facebook never changes your privacy settings for you. I've had my Facebook profile since 2007 and never once have they changed my privacy settings away from "Friends only." Also, I have timeline... yet I'm still on "Friends only." Not public.

I wish ANYONE on this site understood how Facebook makes money. They don't "sell" your information to advertisers. Advertisers get on Facebook and decide which demographics they want to target. Then, they post their ad. Facebook shows that ad to people who meet the demographics the marketer selected, and then charges for views and clicks. The marketer never gets the data from the Facebook.

iEvolution
Jun 8, 2012, 04:11 AM
Oh I can't wait to get 80 invites to FarmVille or vampire wars on a daily basis. /sarcasm

Facebook is just place where people can feel important by posting about their great life or complain about their life. It was nice to see some friends from my high school and it's great to get back in contact with friends you haven't seen for years but other than that it's a relationship killer, privacy invader, self esteem killer (for those bothered by other's success), an artificial ego booster (for those that post for attention), and a potential risk to employment.

Really hope iOS 6 offers something bigger than this.

entropys
Jun 8, 2012, 04:12 AM
of course it is true Coltman. Try and play with a FB app or install a new feature, and FB will reset your privacy settings. You have to be careful to reset them how you want them every time. Ditto whenever they change the terms of agreement. It pays to regularly check your settings.

And I didn't say it sells your information. I said it sells you. Your data is aggregated for advertisers, but to improve that aggregation, FB needs as much information about you, and your friends, as possible. Thus it is selling you, indirectly to advertisers, and directly to your friends, in order to entice them to part with more information about themselves, and vice versa. The best FB customers agree to public access, so they can sell as much of you as possible to as many friends, acquaintances and FB friends as possible.

kristoffer4
Jun 8, 2012, 06:01 AM
If only the ios app worked! It is so slow that I don't use it anymore.

Also it annoys me that they have a seperate messaging and photo app? Why not have all in a good way in one app?

alent1234
Jun 8, 2012, 08:18 AM
Facebook makes money by selling you to advertisers. And it is sneaky about it. Set up a FB page with the privacy settings you want, then go back and look at those settings a few months later. Often they have miraculously changed back to the default (ie. Public!). If you ever get an email telling you that FB is changing its privacy agreement, they are really telling you they have reset your settings to default. Becuase at the end of the day, it wants to use your private data.

And do not change over to the timeline feature. Anyone using timeline is public.
End of story. Facebook makes google look like saints.


OMG, Jo Malone knows that i liked their page on facebook. now the evil bastards will try to sell me some perfume. even worse they will probably wait until its close to my wife's birthday since they know when that is as well

subsonix
Jun 8, 2012, 08:42 AM
OMG, Jo Malone knows that i liked their page on facebook. now the evil bastards will try to sell me some perfume. even worse they will probably wait until its close to my wife's birthday since they know when that is as well

It can get weird.. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/daily-report-whats-behind-facebooks-sponsored-stories/ :D

GIZBUG
Jun 8, 2012, 09:26 AM
Wow, MORE BLOAT for an already bloated/slow loading/garbage app.
Maybe FB should spend more time fixing their core app, then adding more stuff, hitting the stock market, and putting out photo apps. FB app on IOS is almost unusable it's so slow to load/open stuff.
:mad:

Leonard1818
Jun 8, 2012, 10:05 AM
People still use facebook?

Hmmm.

SVTVenom
Jun 8, 2012, 10:05 AM
I nuked all my Facebook Apps a long time ago. "Hide all by..." is my primary activity when logged into Facebook.

I do the same thing. Every time I list a new favorite musician, hobby, movie, or anything, I spend the next week just going through and clicking "Hide all by..." all the junk that spams my feed. And it drives me insane that I can't do it on my iOS app on my phone. That is, when my app actually works.

Wicked1
Jun 8, 2012, 10:10 AM
there goes the neighborhood, social networking is killing the world...

I prefer not to have apps integrated please don't do it :eek:

Tinmania
Jun 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
Why is tinman write lies and wrong in every post. Google phone is even in macrumor story. Can tinman read or is troll. Hmmmm
iChrist? What a sad and pathetic display of character for someone who chose that as a username. Sickening, really.





Michael

appleweek
Jun 8, 2012, 04:14 PM
WOW.... you guys are a paranoid bunch.......

I dont know where to actually begin, but i'll just say I fully support Apple integrating Facebook with iOS 6. The amount of FUD in this thread over Facebook is unbelievable. If you learn how to use it, and use it properly, none of those stuff are at issue. Geezz.... How complicated is it to adjust your privacy settings, account settings, etc etc etc?!?!??!?!

winston1236
Jun 8, 2012, 10:35 PM
i have to wonder why apple is going the bloatware route on this.

Reach9
Jun 8, 2012, 10:50 PM
According to a recent post by 9to5Mac, the Facebook integration is going to be more than what Twitter was? Apparently the "Like" button will pop up on the all the Stores (Book, App, iTunes).
This is going a bit too far. If Facebook was just like Twitter then i would not have any issues with it, however, I don't want to see a "Like" button or anything on the OS if I haven't selected Facebook integration.