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Jun 9, 2012, 11:35 PM
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With Apple appearing to have a full slate of announcements lined up for its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) keynote on Monday, we're offering this roundup to summarize a number of the high-profile rumors that have been circulating ahead of the event.

Apple has already announced that it will be previewing iOS 6 and OS X Mountain Lion at the event, and with Apple also expected to introduce a number of new Macs and perhaps make some additional announcements, the schedule appears to be packed.

iOS 6

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(http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/06/6.jpg)Apple is not keeping it secret (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/wwdc-banner-confirms-ios-6-discussion-and-name/) that iOS 6 will be a major component of WWDC 2012, with banners (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/wwdc-banner-confirms-ios-6-discussion-and-name/) featuring the unannounced version of iOS having already been hung at the site of the conference. While we expect Apple will detail the many new features of iOS, the biggest new feature will be Apple's own mapping solution, which has been reported by multiple sources. Apple has been dependent on Google for mapping and navigation since the iPhone's original launch, but over the past several years Apple has made moves and acquisitions (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/30/apple-acquired-mapping-company-placebase-in-july/) in an attempt to build its own solution. Here is a list of rumored features for the latest version of iOS:

- Apple's own Mapping Solution (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/04/apple-replacing-google-maps-on-ios-with-its-own-solution-later-this-year/)
- Facebook Integration (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/01/ios-6-to-bring-systemwide-facebook-integration/)
- Siri for iPad (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/04/siri-reportedly-coming-to-ipad-with-ios-6/)
- Developer usage tracking tools (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/apple-to-launch-new-app-usage-tracking-tools-for-developers-to-balance-user-privacy/)
- iCloud Safari Tabs/VIP Mail Highlighting/Do Not Disturb mode (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/04/ios-6-to-add-safari-icloud-tabs-vip-mail-recipients-do-not-disturb-mode/)
- Baidu search option in China (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/07/apple-to-add-baidu-as-iphone-search-option-in-china/)

OS X Mountain Lion

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OS X Mountain Lion is another known product that Apple will be discussing at the conference. Apple previously announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/16/roundup-of-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-features-and-notes/) the new version of OS X back in February. The features included Notification Center, Messages, Reminders, Game Center, and Airplay. We've since seen hints at several other new features that Apple may also be including in OS X:

- Automatic App Downloads (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/21/os-x-mountain-lion-bringing-automatic-app-downloads-to-mac/)
- Password Generation in Safari (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/23/apple-may-add-secure-password-suggestions-to-safari-with-os-x-mountain-lion/)
- Offline reading list / Voice Dictation (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/23/os-x-mountain-lion-adding-offline-safari-reading-list-mode-and-dictation-to-mac/)

iCloud

The third banner (http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/06/icloud.jpg) that is being prominently displayed in the Moscone lobby is one for iCloud. Apple CEO Tim Cook has said that iCloud is a strategy (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/14/tim-cook-at-goldman-sachs-worker-safety-iphone-and-ipad-growth-and-financial-strategy/) for the next decade. Due to a slip-up by Apple, we've already seen some of the new features that Apple is planning to bring to iCloud in iOS 6:

- New web apps (Notes, Reminders) (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/11/apple-bringing-notes-and-reminders-to-icloud-com/)
- Enhanced photo sharing / Photo Stream for videos (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/14/apple-to-upgrade-icloud-with-photo-sharing-notes-and-reminders-on-icloud-com/)

MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina

Due to a leaked (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/06/alleged-new-part-numbers-suggest-over-a-dozen-new-mac-models-coming-at-wwdc/) inventory list, we know that Apple is shipping a dozen new Mac models to their retail stores, although the exact breakdown is somewhat open to how you interpret the part numbers and prices. At the least, it seems we'll see new MacBook Airs, Mac Pros and MacBook Pros. Depending on your interpretation (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/apple-to-introduce-third-macbook-line-with-retina-display-at-wwdc/), we may also see iMacs.

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Meanwhile, Retina-class displays on Apple's new Macs has been an ongoing rumor that's even been corroborated by Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-14/apple-said-to-prepare-thinner-mac-laptops-sporting-intel-chips.html). Apple has already built in (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/23/hidpi-retina-images-mountain-lion-already-enabled-10-7/) Retina-display support in OS X, and many expect them to release the corresponding hardware this week.

- Dozen New Mac Models Coming (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/06/alleged-new-part-numbers-suggest-over-a-dozen-new-mac-models-coming-at-wwdc/)
- Apple to Release Thinner Retina MacBook Pros at WWDC (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/14/apple-to-release-thinner-macbook-pro-at-wwdc/)
- New MacBook line with Retina Display (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/apple-to-introduce-third-macbook-line-with-retina-display-at-wwdc/)
- Retina coming to iMac too? (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/15/retina-displays-also-coming-to-next-generation-imac/)
- Anti-reflective glass for iMac? (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/02/apple-to-utilize-anti-reflective-glass-in-next-generation-imac/)

Apple TV

Apple has been rumored to be bringing a television set to market late this year or early next year, and there have been rumblings that the company may take its first steps toward that goal at WWDC with an unveiling of the operating system (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/30/apple-to-unveil-television-set-operating-system-at-wwdc/) that will power the TV. Additional claims have suggested that Apple will be introducing an SDK (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/apple-reportedly-set-to-open-up-apple-tv-to-third-party-developers-at-wwdc/) to open up the current Apple TV set-top box to third-party developers. Those apps would naturally also be compatible with the television set should it come to fruition. We should note that all these Apple TV claims come from a single uncorroborated source, and may not happen next week.

iPhone

A number of parts claimed to be for the next-generation iPhone have already begun leaking from Apple's supply chain, with the highest-profile leak so far being a hands-on video (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/07/iphone-5-back-cover-hands-on-video/) showing the back cover of the device. Apple is unlikely to introduce new iPhone hardware at WWDC, however, with most observers believing that the company will stick to the September/October timeframe seen last year with the iPhone 4S.

Live Keynote Coverage

The WWDC 2012 Keynote kicks off at 10am Pacific on Monday, June 11th. We will be providing live text and photo coverage here. We will also be issuing Twitter updates through our @MacRumorsLive (http://twitter.com/macrumorslive) account. Separate news stories regarding the event announcements will go out through our @MacRumors (http://twitter.com/macrumors) account.

Article Link: WWDC 2012 Rumor Roundup: iOS 6, Mountain Lion, iCloud, and Macs (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/10/wwdc-2012-rumor-roundup-ios-6-mountain-lion-icloud-and-macs/)



Asclepio
Jun 9, 2012, 11:37 PM
i have a rumors overdose, please stop.

Xavier
Jun 9, 2012, 11:38 PM
Bring on iOS 6!

TC400
Jun 9, 2012, 11:39 PM
Can't wait SUPER EXCITED

Jaro65
Jun 9, 2012, 11:40 PM
Sure sounds like it is going to be one busy WWDC!

Battlefield Fan
Jun 9, 2012, 11:40 PM
Please announce immediate availability of Mountain Lion. Plzzz:D

MacinDoc
Jun 9, 2012, 11:43 PM
i have a rumors overdose, please stop.
Agreed, sounds almost like too much to present at one keynote. Apple may in fact hold back a few of these things to prolong their time in the limelight.

Reach9
Jun 9, 2012, 11:45 PM
Sure sounds like it is going to be one busy WWDC!

quite the opposite. This WWDC doesn't look like it'll be that big of a deal.

iOS 6 will not be a major overhaul of the UI, a lot of people will be disappointed.

Just like Lion, Mountain Lion will be a lot of regurgitation of the features mentioned before, with none or very few new features for the final release.. just like Lion.

new Macs. This is where the main party will be, looking forward to slimmer versions.

Also, isn't this year's WWDC presentation supposed to be shorter than the usual ones? I thought i read that somewhere, correct me if i'm wrong.

just my thoughts. Still looking forward to all of the above mentioned!

arn
Jun 9, 2012, 11:46 PM
Agreed, sounds almost like too much to present at one keynote. Apple may in fact hold back a few of these things to prolong their time in the limelight.

The last two seem unlikely. (apple tv, iphone)
The first three are definite to be discussed (ios 6, os x, icloud)

So that leaves the Macs, which seems like it'll happen. Not sure how much time they would devote in the keynote to it.

arn

thecurryman
Jun 9, 2012, 11:46 PM
Pleasseee let there be widgets in iOS 6!

Ted Witcher
Jun 9, 2012, 11:48 PM
iCloud Notes? God, can I just get the 5G of free storage that everybody else offers?

Xavier
Jun 9, 2012, 11:50 PM
iCloud Notes? God, can I just get the 5G of free storage that everybody else offers?

iCloud notes would be a big one for me. That and a dedicated notes app, like calendar, for the mac. Stickies does not cut it.

Ted Witcher
Jun 9, 2012, 11:52 PM
Okay, fine, Notes. I'll take it. But I just want the storage that was available under MobileMe to continue. I'm in the Apple ecosystem -- it makes no sense that I have my off-site storage needs taken care of by Amazon and two other companies. Not after Apple just opens a brand-new massive data center.

zbarsky
Jun 9, 2012, 11:53 PM
The rumors are way out of control. There are too many things predicted which will not appear that will lead to much disappointment. Lower your expectations.

MacinDoc
Jun 9, 2012, 11:55 PM
The last two seem unlikely. (apple tv, iphone)
The first three are definite to be discussed (ios 6, os x, icloud)

So that leaves the Macs, which seems like it'll happen. Not sure how much time they would devote in the keynote to it.

arn
That sounds about right.

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The rumors are way out of control. There are too many things predicted which will not appear that will lead to much disappointment. Lower your expectations.
I share your concern. The more excited people get, and the more extensive and fantastic the rumors, the more certain it is that what Apple announces, no matter how good it is, will fall short of expectations.

VPrime
Jun 9, 2012, 11:59 PM
Looks like a pretty busy keynote. Maybe that's why the wwDC logo this year is a bunch of busy squares ;)

Matthew Yohe
Jun 10, 2012, 12:02 AM
The rumors are way out of control. There are too many things predicted which will not appear that will lead to much disappointment. Lower your expectations.

Honestly, very little is known about iOS, and Mountain Lion will certainly have some surprises as well.

funman895
Jun 10, 2012, 12:03 AM
The last two seem unlikely. (apple tv, iphone)
The first three are definite to be discussed (ios 6, os x, icloud)

So that leaves the Macs, which seems like it'll happen. Not sure how much time they would devote in the keynote to it.

arn

I know on Twitter you seem excited for new Mac Pros; do you think they'll be redesigned or just upgraded internally with Ivy Bridge?

d0vr
Jun 10, 2012, 12:04 AM
Can someone please confirm something for me? During the WWDC, the only time apple would announce a new anything is during the initial keynote, right? For example, if a new is for the rumoured TV isn't announced during the keynote, it won't be announced at all throughout the WWDC?

arn
Jun 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
I know on Twitter you seem excited for new Mac Pros; do you think they'll be redesigned or just upgraded internally with Ivy Bridge?

Really, no clue. Seems like they would redesign it, but it also seems like an awful lot of effort for a machine they don't seem to care about that much. There were some rumors it would see a redesign, so there's that to hold onto.

Can someone please confirm something for me? During the WWDC, the only time apple would announce a new anything is during the initial keynote, right? For example, if a new is for the rumoured TV isn't announced during the keynote, it won't be announced at all throughout the WWDC?

Pretty much. Definitely for the TV. If you don't hear about it monday, it's not coming at WWDC.

arn

d0vr
Jun 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
I share your concern. The more excited people get, and the more extensive and fantastic the rumors, the more certain it is that what Apple announces, no matter how good it is, will fall short of expectations.

I'm actually already expecting to be disappointed by iOS 6. I would like to believe that iOS 6 has a redesigned UI and that Apples map solution will be better than Googles whilst working across the world. But I'm not placing bets their.

The only thing I'm really hoping to hear is new, thinner MBP.

And thanks @arn, the tv was just an example, but you answered my question!

deannnnn
Jun 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
The last two seem unlikely. (apple tv, iphone)
The first three are definite to be discussed (ios 6, os x, icloud)

So that leaves the Macs, which seems like it'll happen. Not sure how much time they would devote in the keynote to it.

arn

I will be so depressed if we don't see new MacBook Pros on Monday! I've been waiting so long!

Warbrain
Jun 10, 2012, 12:09 AM
iCloud notes would be a big one for me. That and a dedicated notes app, like calendar, for the mac. Stickies does not cut it.

A dedicated Notes.app is coming in Mountain Lion.

DavidTheExpert
Jun 10, 2012, 12:09 AM
I predict that Apple will release a developers version of iOS 6 at WWDC, and it will contain lots of subtle details about the iPhone 5, and we will be able to paint a nice picture of what the iPhone 5 will be like from details in iOS 6.

Tech198
Jun 10, 2012, 12:13 AM
i have a rumors overdose, please stop.

Same here...

This is probably the biggest and exciting keynote Apple have done in a while.

Its also the first time most of their Mac line is going. :eek:

yanksrock100
Jun 10, 2012, 12:16 AM
This WWDC will be awesome. This is the first WWDC I've been this excited for! Come on Macbooks! :apple:

Medic311
Jun 10, 2012, 12:17 AM
as Tim Cook said at the end of the iPad 3 unveiling presentation:


"Across the year, you are going to see a lot more of this kind of innovation. We are just getting started"


when he says "this", he is referring to retina displays and software features guaranteed. in addition, i expect there to be other big significant changes at next week's conference that these rumors haven't even touched on yet. instead of us asking "which rumor will be true" , i think we should be asking which rumors will be true as i think a lot will be unveiled since there won't be another opportunity until the new iPhone is released

the8thark
Jun 10, 2012, 12:18 AM
iOS 6
OS X Mountain Lion
iCloud
MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina
Apple TV
iPhone
Live Keynote Coverage

iOS 6
The banners Mac Rumours found online pretty much prove this.

OS X Mountain Lion
Probably will be talked about with it's release this year. So I say Mac Rumours got this one right.

iCloud
Very plausable to hear some iCloud talk with regards to OS X Mountain Lion and iOS 6. So MacRumours probably have this right too.

MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina
Good rumours? Yes. WWDC rumours though? Probably not. This is a WWDevelopersC not a WWHardwareC. It could be a footnote on the Keynote but that's about it. So MacRumours saying it will definantly be talked on the WWDC keynote is obviously wrong.

Apple TV
They will probably talk about opening up the TV to developers. That is a safe bet. But a physical Apple brand television? MacRumours has been smoking the "we want a Apple brand television" pipe for way too long. Any smart person will realise this will not happen on the WWDC keynote. The MacRumours (as do many other people) need to wake up and realise this. If this was to happen it'd get it's own keynote later in the year.

iPhone
I'd say Plausable. Based on past years. Not a certain but I would not rule it out either.

Live Keynote Coverage
By Apple won't happen. We'll get the keynote on the website a little after the keynote is done. But will many websites have a live weblog of the keynote? Yes. MacRumours is no exception to this.

Chumburro2U
Jun 10, 2012, 12:20 AM
Win Apple win baby!!!! Don't down vote me!!!:p

Navdakilla
Jun 10, 2012, 12:20 AM
Rumor overdose for sure.

I'm hoping they toss in a "one more thing", give us something we weren't expecting!

LeonPro
Jun 10, 2012, 12:21 AM
iPad mini

Rocketman
Jun 10, 2012, 12:27 AM
I don't know how firm WWDC scheduling is, but with a full slate like that what are the chances Cook comes on stage and says, "this is going to take longer than usual"?

Or "One more thing. Part two after XYZ."

This is what happens when you put the supply chain guy in charge of a company. Everything under the sun, delivered on time, and worldwide.

Rocketman

Spectrum Abuser
Jun 10, 2012, 12:28 AM
iCloud Notes? God, can I just get the 5G of free storage that everybody else offers?

You do realize iCloud has given every user 5GB of free storage since day one?

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Okay, fine, Notes. I'll take it. But I just want the storage that was available under MobileMe to continue. I'm in the Apple ecosystem -- it makes no sense that I have my off-site storage needs taken care of by Amazon and two other companies. Not after Apple just opens a brand-new massive data center.

I can't believe no one has corrected you until now.

CupOfJoeD
Jun 10, 2012, 12:28 AM
MacBook Pros please be true. Retina display. Please. Thanks. :apple:

MaSx
Jun 10, 2012, 12:39 AM
I have high expectation for iOS 6, I hope to see some new unique feature, along with some tweaked up features that's out there already but not just copy paste feature!

Spooner83
Jun 10, 2012, 12:43 AM
So there;s nothing new in iOS6 then if those are the biggest features lol, just like they gave us an iPhone 4s instead of a iPhone 5 and a new iPad that only had a better screen and nothing else new from the last one. Apple has really fallin off. They haven't introduced anything exciting for a while. How about in iOS 6 we see

Emails and SMS can be sent at a certain time

Background animations like Android

new style lock screen

miamialley
Jun 10, 2012, 12:52 AM
I'm not expecting 6 to offer anything that will be make me upgrade my jailbroken iPhone.

kiwiboi87
Jun 10, 2012, 12:57 AM
people need to stop expecting a iPhone or tv
not going to happen sad to say

Konrad
Jun 10, 2012, 01:00 AM
It is truly pathetic, people begging a corporation for a product and begging for it to take their money. And then, begging some more. And drooling. One cannot embarrass himself publicly any more in view that it is only about a disposable electronic product. WTF??!!

Meanwhile, it is important to commend Apple for the unprecedented ability to keep a complex and time consuming process of manufacturing a vast number of devices in huge quantities - a global secret. This is, when also taking into account so many needed subcontractors, a phenomenal achievement.

Spetsnazos
Jun 10, 2012, 01:01 AM
MBP is all I'm hoping for. iOS6 is going to be dissapointing...cant even do widgets like android.

MacinDoc
Jun 10, 2012, 01:18 AM
Rumor overdose for sure.

I'm hoping they toss in a "one more thing", give us something we weren't expecting!
Although "one more thing" would be nice, there is already more than enough to be covered.

I think Apple is taking a slightly different approach to secrecy. I think that carefully controlled leaks have allowed Apple to give Apple followers a general idea of what to expect while whipping the faithful into a frantic fevered frenzy. Talk about free publicity (and for a change, positive publicity).

I just hope the reality lives up the hype. Raising expectations to where they are now at is a dangerous game to play.

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MBP is all I'm hoping for. iOS6 is going to be dissapointing...cant even do widgets like android.
Why would the mere lack of widgets make an OS disappointing? I personally have no interest in having mini-apps on my home screen. Would they be nice? Well, yes, but other elements of the OS are much more important.

AIP5
Jun 10, 2012, 01:20 AM
If Maps is the only real update in iOS 6, then man will I be disappointed.

That's just the latest disappointment after a string of disappointments: iPhone 4S, iPad 3 (or... "the new iPad"), and MacBook updates in the past. Unfortunately, Apple's blockbuster sales won't exactly paint a picture of general disappointment felt by many about Apple's lack of technological innovation (on the same level as SJ at least)

mac2013
Jun 10, 2012, 01:27 AM
Mac Mini???????:confused::confused:

MacinDoc
Jun 10, 2012, 01:42 AM
If Maps is the only real update in iOS 6, then man will I be disappointed.

That's just the latest disappointment after a string of disappointments: iPhone 4S, iPad 3 (or... "the new iPad"), and MacBook updates in the past. Unfortunately, Apple's blockbuster sales won't exactly paint a picture of general disappointment felt by many about Apple's lack of technological innovation (on the same level as SJ at least)
What's so disappointing about the new iPad? Did you expect them to make it from components not yet reliably available by the millions, to settle for sub-par battery life, or to defy the laws of physics?

pmau
Jun 10, 2012, 01:42 AM
What about a retina Cinema Display?
The old ACD 30" was really great. I'd like to see something like 3200x2536 as a 30" Thunderbolt display.

iLoveMyApple
Jun 10, 2012, 01:44 AM
I don't know if this has been posted anywhere else, but the Apple Store is down in U.S.! I don't know if it's routine maintenance or what. :eek:

Edit: It's back up now. It must have been something routine.

Mr. Retrofire
Jun 10, 2012, 01:51 AM
new Macs. This is where the main party will be, looking forward to slimmer versions.
Unlikely with Ivy Bridge.

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The last two seem unlikely. (apple tv, iphone)
The first three are definite to be discussed (ios 6, os x, icloud)

So that leaves the Macs, which seems like it'll happen. Not sure how much time they would devote in the keynote to it.
One or two weeks later would make more sense. I do not see the connection between the consumers (Mac buyers) and the WWDC.

joepunk
Jun 10, 2012, 01:56 AM
Great.and on a monday. Right? Anyway, if there is some major Mac updates like the mbps there have been very little concrete rumours. This will be interesting.

I might have some nice wheat snacks and a beer (slight weat allergy) if this turns out to be an exciting presentation.

Konrad
Jun 10, 2012, 02:01 AM
I am curious if the hysterical crazies will be camping all night again for something in front of the apple stores next week.

Mr. Retrofire
Jun 10, 2012, 02:01 AM
iPad mini
OS of this device: OS X Mountain Lion mini

;-)

macbookflasher
Jun 10, 2012, 02:02 AM
i am curious . can not wait dude

Mr. Retrofire
Jun 10, 2012, 02:02 AM
I am curious if the hysterical crazies will be camping all night again for something in front of the apple stores next week.
Why not?

bennyboy34
Jun 10, 2012, 02:13 AM
I personally think Apple has something up it's sleeve that no one knows about...

AIP5
Jun 10, 2012, 02:18 AM
What's so disappointing about the new iPad? Did you expect them to make it from components not yet reliably available by the millions, to settle for sub-par battery life, or to defy the laws of physics?

... apart from the fact that there's no real difference between it and iPad 2 except rear camera and Retina Display? I think you mistaken me for one of those who thinks Apple is a fail unless it makes godly products every time.

I'm certainly not one of those. In fact, I pre-ordered my iPad 3 and 4S. But that was because I didn't have an iPad before and my previous iPhone contract had expired. So now, unless iPad 4/iPhone 5 have something exceptional, then I don't see myself upgrading for 2 years.

Basically, Apple has lost that technological innovation that SJ had. SJ's era pumped out one great product after another. There were doldrum periods for sure, too, but eventually a great product was guaranteed. The last 2 years at Apple haven't really been extraordinary save their blockbuster sales. Apple seems to be trying to stretch out SJ's remaining ideas for as many years as it can. This is evident by the fact that SJ introduced products that were normally a significant departure from their predecessor. Tim Cook has so far been releasing products that are almost exactly like their predecessor, except a few changes here and there and a great deal of marketing.

Hopefully iOS 6 proves me wrong, but I highly doubt it will be anything more than a "major" change to Maps, and a few tweaks here and there.

arn
Jun 10, 2012, 02:18 AM
One or two weeks later would make more sense. I do not see the connection between the consumers (Mac buyers) and the WWDC.

It happens.

In 2009 they had new MBPs, updated MacBook and MacBook Air Updates: http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/08/apple-posts-wwdc-2009-keynote-address-quicktime-stream/

arn

Konrad
Jun 10, 2012, 02:26 AM
Why not?

LOL. Because they clutter the sidewalks, make it difficult to move around, by the time they storm the facility, they stink and act stupid.

the8thark
Jun 10, 2012, 02:28 AM
It is truly pathetic, people begging a corporation for a product and begging for it to take their money. And then, begging some more. And drooling. One cannot embarrass himself publicly any more in view that it is only about a disposable electronic product. WTF??!!

Meanwhile, it is important to commend Apple for the unprecedented ability to keep a complex and time consuming process of manufacturing a vast number of devices in huge quantities - a global secret. This is, when also taking into account so many needed subcontractors, a phenomenal achievement.

http://www.matthewratzloff.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/take-my-money.jpg

Drunken Master
Jun 10, 2012, 02:29 AM
... apart from the fact that there's no real difference between it and iPad 2 except rear camera and Retina Display? I think you mistaken me for one of those who thinks Apple is a fail unless it makes godly products every time.

I'm certainly not one of those. In fact, I pre-ordered my iPad 3 and 4S. But that was because I didn't have an iPad before and my previous iPhone contract had expired. So now, unless iPad 4/iPhone 5 have something exceptional, then I don't see myself upgrading for 2 years.

Basically, Apple has lost that technological innovation that SJ had. SJ's era pumped out one great product after another. There were doldrum periods for sure, too, but eventually a great product was guaranteed. The last 2 years at Apple haven't really been extraordinary save their blockbuster sales. Apple seems to be trying to stretch out SJ's remaining ideas for as many years as it can. This is evident by the fact that SJ introduced products that were normally a significant departure from their predecessor. Tim Cook has so far been releasing products that are almost exactly like their predecessor, except a few changes here and there and a great deal of marketing.

Hopefully iOS 6 proves me wrong, but I highly doubt it will be anything more than a "major" change to Maps, and a few tweaks here and there.

There was what, like a 6 year gap between the iPod and iPhone debuts? And now a 2 year period of consistent, but not earth shattering, work is equivelant to a failing on Apple's part?

Processor
Jun 10, 2012, 02:29 AM
what about the new iWork? we are still using iWork 2009

Jiz
Jun 10, 2012, 02:32 AM
No iMac talk?
Why are they so bulky?
A slimmed down iMac would be a nice surprise.

tundoopani
Jun 10, 2012, 02:34 AM
It's unfortunate that WWDC is during my finals week. My excitement and stress are cancelling each other out.

Here's hoping to impressive MBPs. :apple:

JesterJJZ
Jun 10, 2012, 02:38 AM
Pleasseee let there be widgets in iOS 6!

Isn't EVERY app a widget?

Northwestern
Jun 10, 2012, 02:39 AM
Just one more thing .... plz ;)

Will Apple stream the event live?

MacinDoc
Jun 10, 2012, 02:49 AM
... apart from the fact that there's no real difference between it and iPad 2 except rear camera and Retina Display? I think you mistaken me for one of those who thinks Apple is a fail unless it makes godly products every time.

I'm certainly not one of those. In fact, I pre-ordered my iPad 3 and 4S. But that was because I didn't have an iPad before and my previous iPhone contract had expired. So now, unless iPad 4/iPhone 5 have something exceptional, then I don't see myself upgrading for 2 years.

Basically, Apple has lost that technological innovation that SJ had. SJ's era pumped out one great product after another. There were doldrum periods for sure, too, but eventually a great product was guaranteed. The last 2 years at Apple haven't really been extraordinary save their blockbuster sales. Apple seems to be trying to stretch out SJ's remaining ideas for as many years as it can. This is evident by the fact that SJ introduced products that were normally a significant departure from their predecessor. Tim Cook has so far been releasing products that are almost exactly like their predecessor, except a few changes here and there and a great deal of marketing.

Hopefully iOS 6 proves me wrong, but I highly doubt it will be anything more than a "major" change to Maps, and a few tweaks here and there.
IMO, with the components that were available at the time that the new iPad was introduced, the only two things that Apple could done to improve the user experience would have been either to make it lighter or to increase the resolution. Apple chose the latter. No other improvements that Apple could have made at the time would have impacted most users' experience with the device, with the exception of increasing the available storage or improving the cameras further (although the iPhone 4S's camera would not have fit). The problem is that necessary components must be available in the millions with a very low rate of defects. You just can't put a bleeding-edge processor that has an extremely low yield in a mass-produced device like an iPad.

I, like you, have relatively low expectations for iOS 6. I think more of its improvements will be under the hood. And I'm OK with that. I certainly don't expect that Apple will introduce a new blockbuster product every year. The expectations around here for this year's WWDC are the highest I have ever seen them, and I am worried that even very good products introduced by Apple will be overshadowed by disappointment over what was not announced.

FWIW, I actually think that the next blockbuster product from Apple will actually hit the market next year, not this year. But that's just a wild guess.

ipedro
Jun 10, 2012, 03:00 AM
When determining the likelihood of announcements, we need to take into account that this is the Worldwide Developers Conference. It sets the stage for products that will be revealed until the next WWDC that depend on developers building applications.

Because of this, I think it's very very likely that the AppleTV API will be unveiled and education sessions given over the next week at the conference. If a TV is to be launched for the holiday season, developers need to be ready to build apps for it. The next WWDC will be after that launch so this is it. If there's going to be a TV this year, the API will be announced Monday when all the developers are in one spot, ready and willing to be trained on how to develop for it.

AppleTV API: 90%

iOS6, Mountain Lion and iCloud are all a given. 100%

A new iPhone is not developer dependent and showcasing iOS6 is enough to get developers ready for the next iPhone -- to be announced in the Fall. The wildcard is that if the next iPhone does have a larger screen, Apple may want to prepare developers and explain the procedure of developing for a different aspect ratio. iPhone 5: 25%

New Macs. Yes, but they don't need to be unveiled at the keynote. They'll probably appear on Apple's site once it comes back online. The new Mac Mini was unveiled in this fashion.

New Macs: 90%
..during the keynote: 50%

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 03:02 AM
A couple of small things I would like to see:

- I would like to see app updates handled better in iOS6. This could be automatic downloads, or added into the notification centre.

- Also, I want the ease of editing for bookmarks in Safari under OSX as it is on iOS. I hate having to go into a separate window to manage bookmarks. Add a edit button to the top of the list that, when clicked, allows me to edit, sort and delete quickly and easily.

- Document locking under Lion, quite frankly, sucks. I would like to disable this feature.

steve-p
Jun 10, 2012, 03:03 AM
I sure hope they have a bit more to reveal than just the current list of rumours for iOS6 which is underwhelming. I am most excited to see what they have in store for Apple TV though.

ahireasu
Jun 10, 2012, 03:05 AM
I believe that apple will use WWDC for iOS 6, iCloud, OSX and apple tv soft,+ "one" hardware device, if it will be just a buff up on existing products or a redesign to make a buzz that i am not sure but thats about it for me(probably the new iPhone but i am not crossing fingers).

I believe that apple will use Keynote's to announce redesign's and new product/s to keep the buzz in the coming months as a good marketing strategist(any bump up on hardware will just be shown to the apple store directly no announcement needed), this is the classic way then you got months and months of talk about apple and the "new" this and that etc.

As for the iPhone leak if this is the new iPhone then i will say this, Apple will lose costumers, the sales will drop for sure (people will stick on their iPhone 4-4s and wait for a redesign, others will move to a different brand that gives them what they want etc.) and for the first time Apple will be forced next year instead of releasing "iPhone 5s" to bring out a redesigned iPhone in fear of losing more costumers, this will mess up their plans and fragmentation will go off the window.
Btw a taller iPhone like the rumored one all ready throw's out the window the one hand use, you will need to use both hands to use it in many occasions.

Just my two cents :D .

CmdrLaForge
Jun 10, 2012, 03:06 AM
what about the new iWork? we are still using iWork 2009

That's something I am hoping for.

Firen
Jun 10, 2012, 03:08 AM
Geez there is a lot to be announced. How am I supposed to process all this?

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 03:21 AM
Some outside wishes:

- the new (if released) laptops have 3G/4G/LTE built-in.

- I also hope Apple has found a way to fix the bloatware that is iTunes. It really needs to be broken up. A UI refresh wouldn't hurt either...

Viking2
Jun 10, 2012, 03:28 AM
I hate the way Apple try to force IOS into OS X.

Give me back 10.6 style with iCloud enhancement.

What about iWork? It is a joke that Apple has not upgraded iWork in over three years. Does Apple really believe that an iPad can substitute a Mac? An iPad is a great sofa gadget that consumes data. But to create data and be creative we need Macs. OK?

Sure give us new MacBooks/iPhones and such but do not try to put IOS on the Macs.

I want a new version of Keynote and Pages NOW!!!!!
(and I also want to be able to Save as....)

Hurry!

Peace
Jun 10, 2012, 03:28 AM
Geez there is a lot to be announced. How am I supposed to process all this?

That's it in a nutshell. Too much to take in all at once.

Most hardware will show up on the Apple Store.
Any hardware that includes Retina display will be shown at the keynote.

MH01
Jun 10, 2012, 03:37 AM
So basically apple might announce anything other then their iPod range..... Now that is an awesome rumour lead up to the event! The experts have outdone themselves this time round.

And whie on it.... I want Regina iPod screens... Let the rumours start....

AIP5
Jun 10, 2012, 03:42 AM
There was what, like a 6 year gap between the iPod and iPhone debuts? And now a 2 year period of consistent, but not earth shattering, work is equivelant to a failing on Apple's part?

Well, even during that period, some great iPods and macs (IMO) came out. I didn't say that apple is failing right now. But, I don't think apple has the same level of technological innovation that it did in SJ's era. Maybe it's because the UI was so revolutionary when iPhone came along, that even relatively minor updates seemed big back then. Maybe it is that i am so used to seeing the same UI and iPhone, that I am considering huge tech feats to be minor (retina display for ex). I dunno, but it is apparent to me that lately, apple has been innovating less revolutionary products, and simply going with "why change what's making us blockbuster sales?"
There's nothing wrong with that sentiment to make profits. But that's not the apple I'm a fan of. I always used to look forward to new products from apple like a kid on Christmas day.
but recently, it's just been "oh... iOS 6. Great, another 100+ MB download"

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 03:47 AM
As for the iPhone leak if this is the new iPhone then i will say this, Apple will lose costumers, the sales will drop for sure (people will stick on their iPhone 4-4s and wait for a redesign, others will move to a different brand that gives them what they want etc.) and for the first time Apple will be forced next year instead of releasing "iPhone 5s" to bring out a redesigned iPhone in fear of losing more costumers, this will mess up their plans and fragmentation will go off the window.

Btw a taller iPhone like the rumored one all ready throw's out the window the one hand use, you will need to use both hands to use it in many occasions.

I disagree with both those points. I'm not sure what issues you might have with the leaked redesign but to me it looks great! The idea of a smaller dock alone is worth highlighting - that extra space is potentially better speakers, signal processing, battery life, etc...

It also seems typical for Apple to redesign with every major generation. The 3G/3GS shared the same form factor as does the 4/4S. Nothing out of the ordinary if the 5 is a redesign.

If true, the extra height won't have an effect on single-handed use. That is more to do with the width. The benefits of going to a 4-inch display far outweigh any of sticking with the 3.5-inch one.

Also, the 4S was essentially just a pretty basic updated 4 and that is the best selling iPhone to date. Imagine the numbers a "new" iPhone will do!

MythicFrost
Jun 10, 2012, 03:47 AM
Isn't EVERY app a widget?
No. A widget sits on the home screen, or a dashboard of sorts, and displays information but it's very basic.
I disagree with both those points. I'm not sure what issues you might have with the leaked redesign but to me it looks great! The idea of a smaller dock alone is worth highlighting - that extra space is potentially better speakers, signal processing, battery life, etc...

It also seems typical for Apple to redesign with every major generation. The 3G/3GS shared the same form factor as does the 4/4S. Nothing out of the ordinary if the 5 is a redesign.

If true, the extra height won't have an effect on single-handed use. That is more to do with the width. The benefits of going to a 4-inch display far outweigh any of sticking with the 3.5-inch one.

Also, the 4S was essentially just a pretty basic updated 4 and that is the best selling iPhone to date. Imagine the numbers a "new" iPhone will do!
The problem with the taller iPhone is existing apps will run with black borders until they're updated.

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 03:54 AM
The problem with the taller iPhone is existing apps will run with black borders until they're updated.

Is that a problem, though?

conradwt
Jun 10, 2012, 04:08 AM
Can someone please confirm something for me? During the WWDC, the only time apple would announce a new anything is during the initial keynote, right? For example, if a new is for the rumoured TV isn't announced during the keynote, it won't be announced at all throughout the WWDC?

The consumer related announcements are usually during the keynote on Monday. However, there are many developer related announcements during the WWDC.

mrxak
Jun 10, 2012, 04:10 AM
I'm looking forward to Mountain Lion demos. Digging into some cool new APIs and features will be nice to see presented by the people working on it. Remember it's not just seeing what's in the OS and Apple apps like iLife and iWork, but a preview of what those developers at WWDC will start using for third party apps in the future. For my part, I hope Mountain Lion fixes a lot of the issues I have with Lion. Lion was an interesting experiment, but it's time to let people who have tried both 10.7 and 10.6 to get some better 10.6 functionality back in 10.8.

We'll see plenty of iOS 6 reviewed again when the iPhone 6 is announced in the fall, so it's not critical that they show everything, but it'll be good to see where Apple is going with it. Monday will also mark the start of the iOS Developer Previews season, so a steady flow of information on iOS 6 will be coming out for the next few months.

I think it's a forgone conclusion that we'll see retina Macs in some form or another. We were basically promised them sometime during the year. I think they'll do their Mountain Lion demo, and suddenly announce that they need to switch to a different demo machine for the rest of the presentation, in order to show off a new feature in Mountain Lion. They'll show off some retina hardware, and then finish the presentation by showing off retina graphics in OS X, and how the developers can make their apps retina.

Then, I think they'll cover the Mac Pro. If we're very lucky, they'll do it by first showing off some new Thunderbolt! displays with increased PPI (hopefully even retina density), and say, well, since we made these new displays, what computer should we attach them to? They work fine hooked up to our new retina laptops, but oh look, coming up from under the center of the stage, here's a rising platform with the greatest Mac Pro ever built. Specs for the high-end custom model are off the charts, to show our commitment to the working professional Mac user.

Then, maybe. Maaaaybe... One more thing, we're opening up the Apple TV. That part number everyone thought was a new Airport Express because of the price? It's actually the new Apple TV. We've got a developer SDK as you walk out. Have fun at the conference. Tim Cook out! *drops mic on stage* *developers go wild*

haydn!
Jun 10, 2012, 04:11 AM
My guess is they'll discuss the software, so iOS 6 and Mountain Lion in detail, maybe with some iCloud.

Hardware wise, I'd only expect Apple to give stage time to one of the Mac families. If a new slimmer MacBook Pro is coming, then this is what they'll discuss, most likely making a big deal of the display.

Other families will receive updates, but my guess is these, plus new accessories will just be press releases after the keynote.

WeegieMac
Jun 10, 2012, 04:18 AM
iOS 6 will, I think we all agree, take up the biggest chunk of the keynote.

Mountain Lion is pretty much set in stone, it's main features will be demoed again by Craig Federighi (Notification Center, Messages, Notes, Reminders, etc) but iOS 6 will be the main event, and it'll be good to see Scott Forstall on stage again.

For iOS 6, I think the main focus will be Apple's maps replacement for Google Maps, and on Siri being improved/expanded, adding the kind of features found in jailbreak tweak "SiriToggles", as well as bringing Siri to the new iPad.

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 04:26 AM
Basically, Apple has lost that technological innovation that SJ had. SJ's era pumped out one great product after another. There were doldrum periods for sure, too, but eventually a great product was guaranteed. The last 2 years at Apple haven't really been extraordinary save their blockbuster sales. Apple seems to be trying to stretch out SJ's remaining ideas for as many years as it can. This is evident by the fact that SJ introduced products that were normally a significant departure from their predecessor. Tim Cook has so far been releasing products that are almost exactly like their predecessor, except a few changes here and there and a great deal of marketing.

You do realise that SJ had a hand in the 4S, New iPad and iPhone 5? he planned out 4 years of products, he specifically cited a new iPod, iPad, iPhone, and MacBooks

mrxak
Jun 10, 2012, 04:26 AM
I don't get why people think the Mac Pro will get a redesign. Well really, what I don't get is why people think it needs a redesign.

Sure, I'd like for the handles to be less sharp, and the overall weight to decrease, but there's a reason the Mac Pro is the way it is. It needs to be large so it stays cool and quiet, and have all the needed slots and bays and such that professionals need. Thunderbolt is not a solution to every problem. Internal stuff is important!

The design of the Mac Pro, and before it, the PowerMac G5, is absolutely gorgeous, externally and internally. These are professional machines for people whose time is money. Working inside the box is fast and easy, hassle free. It's only gotten better over time, making good use of the available space and minimizing the need for cables and screwdrivers. Some might say the outside appearance of the thing is old, but I disagree that it's dated. It's classic, clean, and timeless. I've never seen a desktop case I like better, and I've never seen a workstation quite as easy to work with inside.

Might Apple adjust the size ever-so-slightly to make them easier to rack? Maybe. As long as it doesn't come at the expense of internal bays and slots, so be it. But a radical redesign makes no sense at all. It should always be a tower, it should always have The Grid, and the positions of ports and such will and should remain basically the same. Apple certainly shouldn't make the thing plastic, but if they can find a material with better strength and thermal properties, so be it.

olowott
Jun 10, 2012, 04:35 AM
All i need from WWDC 2012 event is to be WoWed:eek:

now thats not too much to ask for right:cool:

ahireasu
Jun 10, 2012, 04:36 AM
I disagree with both those points. I'm not sure what issues you might have with the leaked redesign but to me it looks great! The idea of a smaller dock alone is worth highlighting - that extra space is potentially better speakers, signal processing, battery life, etc...

As you find the "new design" great i find it .... meh, since for me is not a redesign but a face lift of a 2 year old design,but i will not disagree about the dock or the extra space.

It also seems typical for Apple to redesign with every major generation. The 3G/3GS shared the same form factor as does the 4/4S. Nothing out of the ordinary if the 5 is a redesign.

I don't doubt that, when everyone was expecting a new iPhone last year i knew that will not happen,(no i am not a psychic) i just used common knowledge.

If true, the extra height won't have an effect on single-handed use. That is more to do with the width. The benefits of going to a 4-inch display far outweigh any of sticking with the 3.5-inch one.

Also, the 4S was essentially just a pretty basic updated 4 and that is the best selling iPhone to date. Imagine the numbers a "new" iPhone will do!

It will affect it since it will be impossible to reach the screen with your thumb as you did in the previous iPhone's,(i refer to portrait mode) don't forget that for the new iPhone to have a 4" screen the bezel needs to be shorter+ the phone itself will be .7mm taller, as for the success of the iPhone 4s part of it was because(by my opinion) it had the feature's that people expected on iPhone 4, i mean that besides the redesign and a bump on hardware iPhone 4 didn't offer much compared to iPhone 3gs but that is just my opinion and people may disagree.. :)
PS.Oh i shouldn't forget the display on iPhone 4.
PS2.Also don't forget that the iPhone users are far exceeding the mac users, they are not followers of apple on other products besides the iPhone, this is why i said the sells will fall if this is the new iPhone.

rikscha
Jun 10, 2012, 04:39 AM
Macrumors has an international focus and not US only and it annoys me that you only post the US time for all Apple events (10am Pacific).
Many of your readers will have no idea what Pacific actually refers to.

It would be good if you could at least add Paris or London time for Europe.

fishmoose
Jun 10, 2012, 04:39 AM
This seems cool and all, but what about the PowerBook G5?

majkom
Jun 10, 2012, 04:39 AM
Apple, give me:
1. New iphone
2. New imac with ssd for system or macmini with ssd and decent gpu or macbook air with decent gpu and 8gigs ram or thinner macbook pro 13 with ssd and decent gpu

And ill give you my god damn money!

duction
Jun 10, 2012, 05:03 AM
Can't wait to see what they add to the new iOS! Hopefully some sort of bar/constant widget at the top to incorporate the spare room.

MythicFrost
Jun 10, 2012, 05:07 AM
Is that a problem, though?
It's not ideal. It's more effort for developers, introduces some fragmentation, and limits the direction they can go with it in the future regarding screen size.

I'm sure consumers won't care but I just don't want to see fragmentation issues or other problems on iOS. That aside, I do like the look of it.

Danoc
Jun 10, 2012, 05:10 AM
Rumors at one day of time of the event is kind of useless. :rolleyes:

Neodym
Jun 10, 2012, 05:18 AM
I've never seen a workstation quite as easy to work with inside.
For starters it would be easier to simply push new hard drives into their bay until a locking mechanism holds them properly in place. Standard in other towers (especially in the workstation sector) since about 10 years or more. Heck - even in el-cheapo NAS housings they have such systems by now!

Instead with Apple you have to fiddle with retractable sleds and screws that are just ridiculously poor in terms of build quality.

Another example is the fiddly locking mechanism for PCIe expansion cards. And you always unlock all cards instead of having dedicated locking mechanisms for each card.

Don't get me wrong - the MacPro is a really well done machine - but it's not perfect and other manufacturers also have good ideas implemented in their offers!

But a radical redesign makes no sense at all. It should always be a tower, it should always have The Grid, and the positions of ports and such will and should remain basically the same.
Why should it always be a tower? If apple could manage to keep the thermal design as efficient with a smaller machine, it would not only save space on user side, but also material on Apple's side. And if a tower works best, does it really have to be as big as the current one?

Ironically with the tower being as huge as it currently is, it usually is placed on the floor. And in that situation the position of the front ports is sub-optimal at best. Even consumer-grade towers offer better solutions with ports positioned higher and/or at the top of the machine.

With SSD becoming increasingly standard in the market, the 2.5" form factor will also receive increased importance. Therefore I would not be surprised if some (if not all) internal drive bays will move to 2.5". Two 5.25" bays is too much in today's markets and the space of at least one of them could be used better with four 2.5" bays. And the 3.5" bays should at least offer the option of being used with 2.5" drives alternatively.

Again - it's a nice tower and well built, but it definitely has quite some potential for improvement!

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It's not ideal. It's more effort for developers, introduces some fragmentation, and limits the direction they can go with it in the future regarding screen size.
That implies that a developer needs/wants to make use of that extra screen real estate directly with his/her program. What if Apple thinks of putting that space to some use by e.g. showing dedicated information there (e.g. QuickStart bar or notifications or weather etc.) while a program is running?

Perhaps that space is available to developers as some kind of a dedicated utility screen of a defined size, where the user can (but does not need to) move controls or status informations from either iOS itself or one of the running programs?

With the iPhone hardware becoming increasingly powerful, multitasking today is less of an issue than during the introduction of the original iPhone five years ago...

bsolar
Jun 10, 2012, 05:19 AM
It would be good if you could at least add Paris or London time for Europe.
Only adding GMT should be enough.

Baklava
Jun 10, 2012, 05:21 AM
I will go spoiler-free this year. Will be like an action movie. :)

TheByrus
Jun 10, 2012, 05:29 AM
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet, but I expect Apple will also announce what the education bonus to buying a new Mac is for this summer. Previous years have been iPod nanos, iPod shuffles, iPod touches, and most recently, an app store gift card.

Virinprew
Jun 10, 2012, 05:35 AM
I guess there will be 4 topics at wwdc
1. Mountain Lion
2. iOS 6
3. iCloud
4. MacBook Pro 15"

theluggage
Jun 10, 2012, 05:39 AM
MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina
Good rumours? Yes. WWDC rumours though? Probably not. This is a WWDevelopersC not a WWHardwareC.

Unless the hardware changes have implications for developers, such as requiring new OS features.

Its a no-brainer that, soon, as an absolute minimum, Apple will need to bump the whole range to Ivy Bridge. Unless they are going to be really stubborn, that would also mean adding USB3, since that is buit in to many of the Ivy Bridge chipsets. That's going to mean adding full USB3 support to OS X - that sounds like a potential Mountain Lion feature.

Retina displays would also imply OS changes (I know that there are some "Hi DPI" features in Lion, but are they ready to fly?) If I were Apple, I'd be thinking about making HiDPI support a requirement for App Store acceptance.

satcomer
Jun 10, 2012, 05:42 AM
I guess there will be 4 topics at wwdc
1. Mountain Lion
2. iOS 6
3. iCloud
4. MacBook Pro 15"

I believe this also.

I am hoping for a Mac Pro update but I am not holding my breath. I also feel a lot of people who post on the site will be sorely disappointed. WWDC is usually just for software announcement for the developers. Apple in the distant past just released processor upgraded Macs right before WWDC. Plus the new iPhone will be released the fall.

One caveat is the new WWDC posters that have been posted. Those posters seem to be pointed to new higher display technology.

grayskies
Jun 10, 2012, 05:46 AM
arrgh :D

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 05:53 AM
I will go spoiler-free this year. Will be like an action movie. :)

If only I had your strength! :(

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 05:57 AM
As you find the "new design" great i find it .... meh, since for me is not a redesign but a face lift of a 2 year old design,but i will not disagree about the dock or the extra space.

Why does it need a redesign?! plus if you consider this new design a facelift, what do you consider the original to 3G? that was only a slight tweak. 3GS to 4 is the only step that could be considered a redesign.

I never got why people considered the 3G to 3GS and 4 to 4S aren't worthwhile jumps, yes they held the same form factor, but they both featured major internal improvements. It seems people want a redesign for the sake of it looking different just so they can show off they have a new shiny phone....

lifeguard90
Jun 10, 2012, 06:03 AM
.... Wth, may see new imacs. Why is there no imac love anywhere

Stock is low, bestbuy website has no 27" , apple.com had 4day global shipping slip, 400+ days, all components are out & its a popular mac .

May see retina on it is more like it, imac in june yes. Hi were Apple, log on into our store and see "new" icons on all macs but please buy outdated 2011 model for $$$$!

All signs and reports a few days/ last week said imac. Now one line in 9to5mac derailed that how? Adding another macbook line, no.

weaponEX
Jun 10, 2012, 06:07 AM
This is the first time I've specifically awaited a Keynote with this level of frenzied eagerness. I've been hanging on and hanging on for the new Macbook Pros for almost 6 months; but the mac-gasm is close at hand :)

There is nothing to complain about regarding this WWDC2012 - bring it on!

ressac
Jun 10, 2012, 06:15 AM
i hope no update for macbook's :D

majkom
Jun 10, 2012, 06:15 AM
.... Wth, may see new imacs. Why is there no imac love anywhere

Stock is low, bestbuy website has no 27" , apple.com had 4day global shipping slip, 400+ days, all components are out & its a popular mac .

May see retina on it is more like it, imac in june yes. Hi were Apple, log on into our store and see "new" icons on all macs but please buy outdated 2011 model for $$$$!

All signs and reports a few days/ last week said imac. Now one line in 9to5mac derailed that how? Adding another macbook line, no.

Well, i would prefer SSD in iMac as standard (or at least small SSD for system) then retina... retina as bonus option, SSD as standard, and I am fine:)

shurcooL
Jun 10, 2012, 06:18 AM
You do realize iCloud has given every user 5GB of free storage since day one?

I can't believe no one has corrected you until now.
I think he's referring to 5 GB of free *file* storage, which iCloud does NOT offer. It offers 5 GB free for generic app data storage, but you can't put your own files there like you could with Dropbox, etc.

I think it's fine as is. Use iCloud for services, Dropbox for files. Besides, I have 25 GB free from Dropbox so it'll be hard to compete with that.

Escargot
Jun 10, 2012, 06:22 AM
David Pogue of the NY times wrote:

"Camera. I bought the amazing Canon S100, a tiny pocket camera with the biggest sensor on the market. I wrote about my reasons here. But in two weeks, I’ll be switching my allegiance. You cannot believe what’s about to come down the photographic pike. Trust me: If you’re in the market for a small camera with astonishing photographic results, hold off for a few weeks."

Is he talking about an Apple Camera?

parish
Jun 10, 2012, 06:28 AM
Macrumors has an international focus and not US only and it annoys me that you only post the US time for all Apple events (10am Pacific).
Many of your readers will have no idea what Pacific actually refers to.

It would be good if you could at least add Paris or London time for Europe.

Both Apple and MR are American therefore they use US time. I'm in the UK and have no problem with that.

East Coast US is 5 hours behind the UK (6 behind mainland Europe) and West Coast is 8 behind the UK

This is actually good for us as it means that the Keynote is at 6pm UK time - just after I get home from work :)

lifeguard90
Jun 10, 2012, 06:29 AM
This is the first time I've specifically awaited a Keynote with this level of frenzied eagerness. I've been hanging on and hanging on for the new Macbook Pros for almost 6 months; but the mac-gasm is close at hand :)

There is nothing to complain about regarding this WWDC2012 - bring it on!

False. If no imacs by wed am, then mega downer. Waited months for nothing

ahireasu
Jun 10, 2012, 06:44 AM
Why does it need a redesign?! plus if you consider this new design a facelift, what do you consider the original to 3G? that was only a slight tweak. 3GS to 4 is the only step that could be considered a redesign.

I never got why people considered the 3G to 3GS and 4 to 4S aren't worthwhile jumps, yes they held the same form factor, but they both featured major internal improvements. It seems people want a redesign for the sake of it looking different just so they can show off they have a new shiny phone....

The redesign it is needed because people get tired of having the same phone for 2 years+ apple knows that(at least i hope it does) and so do all the other manufactures, the redesign also helps in what you put inside the phone in most cases, i am not saying it is right or wrong i just say this is the way things are.

As for the internal improvements i don't understand why something like this is mentioned, people sould know that internal improvements are a given you can't stay on top of your game with the same internals you had on the first iphone and continue having high sales,none can do that, the market is moving new hardware is coming out better cpu's,gpu's, better screens etc.
Time for lunch :D

Piggie
Jun 10, 2012, 06:51 AM
Well, i would prefer SSD in iMac as standard (or at least small SSD for system) then retina... retina as bonus option, SSD as standard, and I am fine:)

Due to the design of iMac an components all running hot (within spec but hot) it would be a good engineering decision to use SSD's rather than HDD's to keep the roasty heat down inside there.

Only problem is, the extravagant pricing Apple changes for SSD storage.

Long term future yes, but Apple are not going to dump HDD's for main storage for a few years yet I'd imagine. Not on desktop machines anyway.

Blakjack
Jun 10, 2012, 06:56 AM
That sounds about right.

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I share your concern. The more excited people get, and the more extensive and fantastic the rumors, the more certain it is that what Apple announces, no matter how good it is, will fall short of expectations.

When have apple fans ever not been disappointed after an event? We love our software and the devices they run on but we are always left wanting just a little bit more from these events.

FrankHahn
Jun 10, 2012, 06:58 AM
David Pogue of the NY times wrote:

"Camera. I bought the amazing Canon S100, a tiny pocket camera with the biggest sensor on the market. I wrote about my reasons here. But in two weeks, I’ll be switching my allegiance. You cannot believe what’s about to come down the photographic pike. Trust me: If you’re in the market for a small camera with astonishing photographic results, hold off for a few weeks."

Is he talking about an Apple Camera?

One possible route: Apple may improve its cameras on the iPhone so that it can be used as a pocket camera.

brauliojr
Jun 10, 2012, 06:58 AM
waiting for iOS 6 beta 1 tomorrow!

Rogifan
Jun 10, 2012, 07:00 AM
The rumors are way out of control. There are too many things predicted which will not appear that will lead to much disappointment. Lower your expectations.

Not sure why you're getting dowin voted for this. The rumor mill always goes into overdrive and what's actually announced doesn't meet the high expectations and people are disappointed. Like you I think it's better to lower expectations and be pleasantly surprised if Apple exceeds them. :)

thekeyring
Jun 10, 2012, 07:07 AM
I hope iOS 6 is a huge update. :) & there's bound to be a few surprised with Mountain Lion - the features they've told us about via the video/website can't be the only new features. Not unless the OS is free.

As for a new iPhone - out of the question. It's been about 9 months since the 4S. Look at the buyers guide.

A new Apple TV set? I think this would warrant it's own event - like the iPad introduction did.

I can see them introducing new Macs though. If they used to have time for OS X, iOS and iPhone news, why not OS X, iOS and Mac news? :)

conorm19147
Jun 10, 2012, 07:11 AM
It better be only a few days until the macs are released

Mr. Gates
Jun 10, 2012, 07:14 AM
Just gimmie an iPod classic refresh. 500 gigs please

mrxak
Jun 10, 2012, 07:18 AM
Macrumors has an international focus and not US only and it annoys me that you only post the US time for all Apple events (10am Pacific).
Many of your readers will have no idea what Pacific actually refers to.

It would be good if you could at least add Paris or London time for Europe.

Pacific time, in this case, is local time at the event. It's not so much US-focused as it is WWDC-focused. As far as I know, MacRumors has always used local time when listing events like this. Most of them tend to be in California, so probably a good idea to learn where that is.

If MacRumors readers are confused, there's always the ticking countdown, and people can convert it to their own time zone accordingly.

kultschar
Jun 10, 2012, 07:25 AM
Wonder if MS Office for iOS will be demoed tomorrow :)

iBreatheApple
Jun 10, 2012, 07:27 AM
Pleasseee let there be widgets in iOS 6!

It's so odd to me that people find these useful. If incorporated, I hope they are completely optional. :apple:


Also, isn't this year's WWDC presentation supposed to be shorter than the usual ones? I thought i read that somewhere, correct me if i'm wrong.

just my thoughts. Still looking forward to all of the above mentioned!

If you read what I am thinking of, it was that last years was two hours but it went over, it was supposed to be an hour and half as well.

iOS6 is going to be dissapointing...cant even do widgets like android.

Please see my the first quote in this post.

And how can you make such allegations when the system hasn't even been announced yet.

CynanX
Jun 10, 2012, 07:27 AM
The redesign it is needed because people get tired of having the same phone for 2 years+ apple knows that(at least i hope it does) and so do all the other manufactures, the redesign also helps in what you put inside the phone in most cases, i am not saying it is right or wrong i just say this is the way things are.

And that is exactly what is wrong with our society (well, one of the things..). If the phone, or any item for that matter, that you own does what you need it to then you should stick with it. This whole, keeping up with the Jones' thing is, unfortunately human nature, ridiculous.

Would you go any buy a new TV every year? HiFi, car, microwave.. it's just silly and doesn't make any sense.

In my opinion the current design is good and the software works very well. If anything they should leave it as it is and just update the battery.. I'd love a phone that could go a week or more.

weaponEX
Jun 10, 2012, 07:28 AM
False. If no imacs by wed am, then mega downer. Waited months for nothing

You have deepest sympathies if that's the case - but we both know that they'll be Ivy-Bridging the Retina shizzle out of that USB 3.0 dizzzle

hw007
Jun 10, 2012, 07:39 AM
Hi all,

Personally I think that Apple will announce a "new iPhone", reasons for this;

If Apple are announcing iOS6, won't developers need to know dimensions of apps they will be designing.

Now I don't believe Apple would announce iOS6 and fail to mention the size of the screen with all the leaks of the new iPhone that we have been having.

So iOS6 gets announced and so will new iPhone, probable July release

HW

50548
Jun 10, 2012, 07:48 AM
iOS 6
The banners Mac Rumours found online pretty much prove this.

OS X Mountain Lion
Probably will be talked about with it's release this year. So I say Mac Rumours got this one right.

iCloud
Very plausable to hear some iCloud talk with regards to OS X Mountain Lion and iOS 6. So MacRumours probably have this right too.

MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina
Good rumours? Yes. WWDC rumours though? Probably not. This is a WWDevelopersC not a WWHardwareC. It could be a footnote on the Keynote but that's about it. So MacRumours saying it will definantly be talked on the WWDC keynote is obviously wrong.

Apple TV
They will probably talk about opening up the TV to developers. That is a safe bet. But a physical Apple brand television? MacRumours has been smoking the "we want a Apple brand television" pipe for way too long. Any smart person will realise this will not happen on the WWDC keynote. The MacRumours (as do many other people) need to wake up and realise this. If this was to happen it'd get it's own keynote later in the year.

iPhone
I'd say Plausable. Based on past years. Not a certain but I would not rule it out either.

Live Keynote Coverage
By Apple won't happen. We'll get the keynote on the website a little after the keynote is done. But will many websites have a live weblog of the keynote? Yes. MacRumours is no exception to this.

It's not "plausable", it's "plausible"...:rolleyes:

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 07:55 AM
David Pogue of the NY times wrote:

"Camera. I bought the amazing Canon S100, a tiny pocket camera with the biggest sensor on the market. I wrote about my reasons here. But in two weeks, I’ll be switching my allegiance. You cannot believe what’s about to come down the photographic pike. Trust me: If you’re in the market for a small camera with astonishing photographic results, hold off for a few weeks."

Is he talking about an Apple Camera?

I hope not. Apple seems to care about limiting the amount the devices someone has to carry. I would rather they focus their efforts on improving the tech of the camera sensor inside the iPhone. There is plenty more they could be doing there.

Stuipdboy1000
Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 AM
With regards to iLife and iWork, I think we'll see updates for them tomorrow.

They'll need to be retina-fied(?) for the new MBPs, plus iWork needs to have it's Mountain Lion/iCloud compatibility baked in.

cjmillsnun
Jun 10, 2012, 08:10 AM
No iMac talk?
Why are they so bulky?
A slimmed down iMac would be a nice surprise.

iMac bulky? It's a desktop that is less bulky than a lot of flat screen TVs...

njvan
Jun 10, 2012, 08:18 AM
iMac bulky? It's a desktop that is less bulky than a lot of flat screen TVs...

If anything, I'd make them thicker to lose more of the "chin."

doctor-don
Jun 10, 2012, 08:22 AM
Macrumors has an international focus and not US only and it annoys me that you only post the US time for all Apple events (10am Pacific).
Many of your readers will have no idea what Pacific actually refers to.

It would be good if you could at least add Paris or London time for Europe.

You do use a computer of some sort, don't you? Then use it to find out what time it is elsewhere in the world - e.g., http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Did you complain about the transit of Venus time, too?

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It's not "plausable", it's "plausible"...:rolleyes:

Uh-oh. You're gonna hear from the editors who don't like grammar corrections.

bushido
Jun 10, 2012, 08:23 AM
And that is exactly what is wrong with our society (well, one of the things..). If the phone, or any item for that matter, that you own does what you need it to then you should stick with it. This whole, keeping up with the Jones' thing is, unfortunately human nature, ridiculous.

Would you go any buy a new TV every year? HiFi, car, microwave.. it's just silly and doesn't make any sense.

In my opinion the current design is good and the software works very well. If anything they should leave it as it is and just update the battery.. I'd love a phone that could go a week or more.

to each their own i guess ;) i bought a white iPhone 4S because i was tired of my black iPhone 4, the hardware side was just a bonus. same reason why i upgraded from my old school xbox 360 to the "new" one. something new to unpack. with your logic, i'd still be wearing my pants from a year ago because well they still "function" :D

leon44
Jun 10, 2012, 08:25 AM
I'm hoping that with Maps all the graphical stuff will be built into the iOS, and the server will just have to send vectors, making it really quick to load maps, or they could even have a map of your entire continent baked in so that it'll work without a data connection. PLEASE!
(obviously that won't work with satellite images)

Rogifan
Jun 10, 2012, 08:30 AM
Anyone expect the MacBooks to look different? Or just a skinnier version of the aluminum unibody we have today?

Moonjumper
Jun 10, 2012, 08:39 AM
If anything, I'd make them thicker to lose more of the "chin."

Yes, and make it thicker to improve the cooling.

LastLine
Jun 10, 2012, 08:41 AM
Hi all,

Personally I think that Apple will announce a "new iPhone", reasons for this;

If Apple are announcing iOS6, won't developers need to know dimensions of apps they will be designing.

Now I don't believe Apple would announce iOS6 and fail to mention the size of the screen with all the leaks of the new iPhone that we have been having.

So iOS6 gets announced and so will new iPhone, probable July release

HWHistorically? No. iOS announcements and iPhone don't necessarily go hand in hand unfortunately. Odd as it may seem it's just the way it is.

Firen
Jun 10, 2012, 08:48 AM
to each their own i guess ;) i bought a white iPhone 4S because i was tired of my black iPhone 4, the hardware side was just a bonus. same reason why i upgraded from my old school xbox 360 to the "new" one. something new to unpack. with your logic, i'd still be wearing my pants from a year ago because well they still "function" :D

Well thats just wasting money. And yes, you can oants even though they are a year old. Some people...

the8thark
Jun 10, 2012, 09:07 AM
It's not "plausable", it's "plausible"...:rolleyes:

Thank you.


Unless the hardware changes have implications for developers, such as requiring new OS features.

This will happen. Silent update probably or just announced on the website.

gri
Jun 10, 2012, 09:07 AM
What's so disappointing about the new iPad? Did you expect them to make it from components not yet reliably available by the millions, to settle for sub-par battery life, or to defy the laws of physics?

Same camera on the front like last one, less battery life. Apps getting larger due to Retina display but capacity didn't increase, max out at same level as iPad 2...

Ballis
Jun 10, 2012, 09:10 AM
If they are gonna introduce iOS6, I find it hard to believe them not talking about the new hardware. The new form factor surely comes with a lot of features that solely will be available for the new hardware, and I can't imagine they won't mention those.

JustMartin
Jun 10, 2012, 09:15 AM
as Tim Cook said at the end of the iPad 3 unveiling presentation:


"Across the year, you are going to see a lot more of this kind of innovation. We are just getting started"


when he says "this", he is referring to retina displays and software features guaranteed. in addition, i expect there to be other big significant changes at next week's conference that these rumors haven't even touched on yet. instead of us asking "which rumor will be true" , i think we should be asking which rumors will be true as i think a lot will be unveiled since there won't be another opportunity until the new iPhone is released

I think the important part of the message is "across the year," people do seem to be expecting 6 months worth of announcements in one keynote.

Rogifan
Jun 10, 2012, 09:34 AM
Same camera on the front like last one, less battery life. Apps getting larger due to Retina display but capacity didn't increase, max out at same level as iPad 2...

:confused: my new iPad gets same battery life as my iPad 2 did.

QCassidy352
Jun 10, 2012, 09:35 AM
that is one seriously, seriously underwhelming list of iOS 6 features. Really hope there's a LOT more to it.

Pukey
Jun 10, 2012, 09:39 AM
Don't forget the new iPhone carrier, Virgin Mobile!
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/#
June 29th!
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/marketing/iphone.html?intcmp=p-hp-mps1-iphonereg-060612

Sedrick
Jun 10, 2012, 09:45 AM
that is one seriously, seriously underwhelming list of iOS 6 features. Really hope there's a LOT more to it.

I have to agree with you there. iOS6 will show if Apple is just 'staying the course' and given up on the 'revolutionizing' thing.

There was what, like a 6 year gap between the iPod and iPhone debuts? And now a 2 year period of consistent, but not earth shattering, work is equivelant to a failing on Apple's part?
That's when Apple owned the market. They have serious competition now, so waiting years between releases points to either Apple's obliviousness to it's own mortality or that Apple is, in fact, untouchable and they know it.

charlituna
Jun 10, 2012, 09:48 AM
i have a rumors overdose, please stop.

Then don't come to the website. It's that easy.

But given that it's called MacRumors you can expect them to wring every last page hit they can out of every rumor and rumored rumor that comes around. it's what the site is all about

Baklava
Jun 10, 2012, 09:50 AM
This WWDC doesn't look like it'll be that big of a deal.
I would agree with that if Tim Cook wouldn't say this sentence at the iPad presentation early this year:

Across the year, you are going to see a lot more of this kind of innovation. We are just getting started.

Apple NEVER said something like this lately. This sentence is the only hope for me to see a great presentation.
If Maps is the only real update in iOS 6, then man will I be disappointed.

It won't, they've surely learned many stuff from the Samsung S III. I don't like their OS but this phone is really amazing.
I hate the way Apple try to force IOS into OS X.
Oh yes, same here. I'll stick with Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion will be nothing for me.
If only I had your strength! :(
It's quite hard. :)

Frobozz
Jun 10, 2012, 09:54 AM
This is really shaping up to be one of the biggest WWDC's yet. In terms of sheer product volume across all their product lines, this will be the biggest.

Looking forward to the software announcements. The things that will interest me the most as a potential purchase this year are:

- iPhone 5– will have to wait until later this year to hear about that
- iOS 6– gimme now!
- Mountain Lion– always looking for the latest, I'll upgrade ASAP

All the retina features are going to be great, and if I were in a different upgrade cycle I'd jump on a new Mac. But I'm more than happy with my existing MBPro. I'm able to play Diablo 3 at 1920 x 1080 on almost all the highest settings. That's my litmus test. Speaking of which ...

nvbrit
Jun 10, 2012, 10:03 AM
I would expect iOS6 to be more than small incremental changes, you don't jump an OS from v5.1 to 6.0 unless you have major updates/changes to make

iMcLovin
Jun 10, 2012, 10:04 AM
The whole Retina rumors are BS I think. Apples upgrade of icons is just something they keep doing to think ahead. It´s not ready yet and its not really needed yet. I think it will happen as much as the iphone 5 teardrop design that didn´t happened - its rumors and hype invented.

MythicFrost
Jun 10, 2012, 10:06 AM
iOS 6
The banners Mac Rumours found online pretty much prove this.

OS X Mountain Lion
Probably will be talked about with it's release this year. So I say Mac Rumours got this one right.

iCloud
Very plausable to hear some iCloud talk with regards to OS X Mountain Lion and iOS 6. So MacRumours probably have this right too.

MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina
Good rumours? Yes. WWDC rumours though? Probably not. This is a WWDevelopersC not a WWHardwareC. It could be a footnote on the Keynote but that's about it. So MacRumours saying it will definantly be talked on the WWDC keynote is obviously wrong.

Apple TV
They will probably talk about opening up the TV to developers. That is a safe bet. But a physical Apple brand television? MacRumours has been smoking the "we want a Apple brand television" pipe for way too long. Any smart person will realise this will not happen on the WWDC keynote. The MacRumours (as do many other people) need to wake up and realise this. If this was to happen it'd get it's own keynote later in the year.

iPhone
I'd say Plausable. Based on past years. Not a certain but I would not rule it out either.

Live Keynote Coverage
By Apple won't happen. We'll get the keynote on the website a little after the keynote is done. But will many websites have a live weblog of the keynote? Yes. MacRumours is no exception to this.
The MacBook Pro is their main money making Mac, you can be sure it'll be demonstrated -- particularly if it is touting a retina display. The iMac, Mac Pro and Mac Mini may get a briefer mention though.

We definitely won't see or hear anything about the iPhone based on Apple's past history.

AppleHater
Jun 10, 2012, 10:06 AM
The rumors are way out of control. There are too many things predicted which will not appear that will lead to much disappointment. Lower your expectations.

I agree. Not only the hype is going out of control but also I don't know how Apple could pull any major surprise in current environment. Mostly, it's a confirmation meeting not an announcement meeting.

In a way, it's like watching movies after spoilers.

charlituna
Jun 10, 2012, 10:08 AM
Please announce immediate availability of Mountain Lion. Plzzz:D

IF there is new hardware then it is likely that they will release Mountain Lion right away. Or within a few days/couple of weeks. Because it is logical to release the new hardware with ML installed.

quite the opposite. This WWDC doesn't look like it'll be that big of a deal.

In the sense that the rumors are always way blown out with things like total redesigns of everything and tons of amazing crazy new features, yes it will likely be a disappointment. Because a good half of what the rumors are saying, if not more won't be mentioned at the keynote. Some of that missing stuff might be silently released while others are totally MIA. And of what is mentioned/released it will be deemed yet another 'stupid minor upgrade' because folks don't get that that is Apple's style. Almost all updates are 'minor' to the tune of 80-90% and they don't redesign just to do it. It has to have some vital benefit to be 'doing it better'

Also, isn't this year's WWDC presentation supposed to be shorter than the usual ones? I thought i read that somewhere, correct me if i'm wrong.


they have done 90 minute keynotes before.

But I just want the storage that was available under MobileMe to continue.

I don't. iDisk was crap. slow, buggy, etc. Apple never got that one right. Everyone I know, myself included, moved to things like Dropbox the moment we could and never looked back

Unless Apple goes and buys Dropbox or a similar company I'm thrilled they are out of that system.

what about the new iWork? we are still using iWork 2009

I think that we'll get a small update (not a redesign) to work with iCloud etc and the number will be dropped from the name.

You do realise that SJ had a hand in the 4S, New iPad and iPhone 5? he planned out 4 years of products,

If not more. Tech moves at about 5 years from idea to released product at a minimum, as much as 8-10 years start to finish isn't unusual either. There are things that Jobs might have been working on at a concept level that the company goes forward with that we won't see for a good 7-8 years.

Macrumors has an international focus and not US only and it annoys me that you only post the US time for all Apple events (10am Pacific).
Many of your readers will have no idea what Pacific actually refers to.

Sorry but if you can't figure out what Pacific is referring to when in relation to an event taking place in California which is on the Pacific Ocean coast or how to look up a time zone translation on the good old World Wide Web, then you need to have a talk with your school teachers because they failed.

d0vr
Jun 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
iOS 6
The banners Mac Rumours found online pretty much prove this.

....

MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Mac Pros, iMacs and Retina
Good rumours? Yes. WWDC rumours though? Probably not. This is a WWDevelopersC not a WWHardwareC.

....

iPhone
I'd say Plausable. Based on past years. Not a certain but I would not rule it out either.

This, right here, is the person to be watching. I swear they must have insider knowledge.

Seriously though, so it being a developer conference means we won't see mac hardware announced, but phones obviously aren't hardware. I want what you are smoking. If you rule out Macs for being hardware, you must rule out phones for the same reason.

Just one small fact though, developers need hardware to develop for.

tallyho
Jun 10, 2012, 10:13 AM
I hope not. Apple seems to care about limiting the amount the devices someone has to carry. I would rather they focus their efforts on improving the tech of the camera sensor inside the iPhone. There is plenty more they could be doing there.
I'm actually in two minds about this. Yes, obviously I'd like the iPhone camera to keep getting better, as that really is the camera I have with me pretty much all the time. On the other hand, a camera-phone lens is never going to be as good as a larger camera, so perhaps Apple can do something innovative with the category of cameras in between camera-phones and full-blown pro SLRs. I'm not quite sure what that something might be, but it would be interesting to find out what Pogue is referring to!

d0vr
Jun 10, 2012, 10:18 AM
If they are gonna introduce iOS6, I find it hard to believe them not talking about the new hardware. The new form factor surely comes with a lot of features that solely will be available for the new hardware, and I can't imagine they won't mention those.

They could quite easily tell developers to prepare for a taller screen in the other meetings regarding iOS6, and that would eventually get to the public. No need to put it in the keynote, or release new hardware right now. Though, being able to one/two/three(?) up the GS3 this quickly would be pretty amazing.

conorm19147
Jun 10, 2012, 10:50 AM
If it means paying some extra money I would be happy to buy a MacBook Pro with retina graphics, I'm sure everyone would. I'm really looking forward to at least an ivy bridge refresh on the MBPs, as for the rumors on discontinuing that MBP 17" I think it's a nice addition to the Mac family, although the 15" MBP does pack a lot of punch I think the bigger screen is a really nice option... even though I would never even consider buying one

Viking2
Jun 10, 2012, 11:06 AM
David Pogue of the NY times wrote:

"Camera. I bought the amazing Canon S100, a tiny pocket camera with the biggest sensor on the market. I wrote about my reasons here. But in two weeks, I’ll be switching my allegiance. You cannot believe what’s about to come down the photographic pike. Trust me: If you’re in the market for a small camera with astonishing photographic results, hold off for a few weeks."

Is he talking about an Apple Camera?

Sony announces Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 large sensor enthusiast compact

Sony’s New Advanced Cyber-shot RX100 Camera Packs Large Sensor and Bright Lens into Stylish, Pocket-Size Body

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/06/06/Sony-announces-DSC-RX100-large-sensor-compact

Perhaps I will leave Canon S95 and iPhone...and look at Sony and Samsung?

doomque
Jun 10, 2012, 11:10 AM
I am hoping that they get right to the goods since they have so much to present. I don't want a whole lot of stats and patting selves on the back. Last year for Steve's Final WWDC, apple did it just right...4 minutes and right to the good stuff. Do it again apple and drop the hammer on the competition. I want them to show some pretty innovative things that makes the comp. have to innovate...we all win. Please give us something good with iMacs and bring an even better iPhoto than the one you released for iOS. iMOvie too for that matter. If and that's a huge if....they show the "new iPhone", please be a design that is different from the parts leaks that we have been seeing with a 4.3 or 4.5 inch screen (not and elongated 4). For the "iMaps" app...please don't forget the TBT Navigation with different voice options for Siri. That's what i would like to see.

Jasoco
Jun 10, 2012, 11:31 AM
iOS6 is a given. It's the only predictable thing left about Apple.

Mountain Lion will also be definitely be shown off with a release of who knows. The release will probably either be within a few weeks if the bugs are good and fixed or by the end of "summer" which always meant "September 20th" or so.

These two are given because they are the two things WWDC is about. The OS. They show off the new OS' for both their Macs and iDevices so developers can build for them. Since ML was revealed way ahead of time I'd suppose it will be released much sooner while iOS6 will most likely have the "summer" date. This has also become what Apple is now going to consider "normal". When they showed off ML in the winter they said they were switching to an iOS-like release schedule for OS X in that it will now be yearly updates with a similar release schedule of iOS which is great. As for pricing, well I want to play Devil's advocate and suggest that they may possibly switch to a FREE OS X release. After all, they're not Microsoft. They don't make their money off the OS, they make it off the hardware, and they sell a BUTTLOAD of hardware. And Apple's philosophy has always been that the hardware and software need to be made for eachother. You can't have the Mac hardware or iDevice hardware without its OS counterpart, and since they've switched to an automated update system without needing a box from a store, you can bet that they will want it to be FREE so they can get it to every machine they can as soon as possible. This is basically what Apple has been striving for since the beginning when they didn't nearly have the ability to do it. Now that it's possible, you can bet they're going to take advantage of it.

A new iPhone is probably not coming until Fall. Last years 4S release happened in the fall. I am willing to bet this will now be the phone release schedule. You reveal the OS for release at the end of Summer, then release the new phone around the same time so people buying the phone will get the new OS and not be forced to upgrade so shortly after. So I don't expect a phone.

New Macs would be nice. But are the new Macs really WWDC Keynote worthy, or could it be possible that they hold them back for a week and release them next week or so instead? I mean, of course if they're big enough updates they'll probably want to roll them out on stage, but I assume it depends on what Apple thinks is a big enough update. New designs? Definitely? New processors? Possibly.

Prepaid iPhones will most definitely be talked about. We know Cricket and Virgin have announced it and I can bet that Apple will mention them during their "This is how many iPhones we sold this year" portion of the keynote. This is the part I look forward to because now that Virgin is getting the phone, I will FINALLY have an iPhone after 5 long years. Problem is I could easily wait until the iPhone 5 comes out and get a prepaid 5 instead of a 4S for the same price as the 5 will be, but would I want to wait until fall? No damn way. My current Virgin Android is begging me to put it in a drawer for the rest of its life so I have no choice. New iPhone for me come July!

Apple TV. Well, if we're talking about a physical TV, I still think it's silly. But as for the box itself, I am hoping for an SDK finally so the Apple TV can compete with Roku. I bought my dad a Roku for Plex because I couldn't be arsed to fiddle around with Jailbreaking an Apple TV just to install a buggy Plex app. If Apple finally made the Apple TV have apps, Plex and all the others could finally put their video services on it. Plus I can totally see the games that would come out for it that utilize iOS devices. It only makes sense! I hope Apple sees this.

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 11:37 AM
These two are given because they are the two things WWDC is about.

you missed off the 3rd thing that's a given, iCloud....

AIP5
Jun 10, 2012, 11:49 AM
You do realise that SJ had a hand in the 4S, New iPad and iPhone 5? he planned out 4 years of products, he specifically cited a new iPod, iPad, iPhone, and MacBooks

Yup. Which is exactly why I think apple is trying to stretch out SJ's ideas for as long as possible. Because their level of innovation is unfortunately not the same as SJ's.

theonekcrow
Jun 10, 2012, 11:52 AM
iOS6 is a given. It's the only predictable thing left about Apple.

Mountain Lion will also be definitely be shown off with a release of who knows. The release will probably either be within a few weeks if the bugs are good and fixed or by the end of "summer" which always meant "September 20th" or so.

These two are given because they are the two things WWDC is about. The OS. They show off the new OS' for both their Macs and iDevices so developers can build for them. Since ML was revealed way ahead of time I'd suppose it will be released much sooner while iOS6 will most likely have the "summer" date. This has also become what Apple is now going to consider "normal". When they showed off ML in the winter they said they were switching to an iOS-like release schedule for OS X in that it will now be yearly updates with a similar release schedule of iOS which is great. As for pricing, well I want to play Devil's advocate and suggest that they may possibly switch to a FREE OS X release. After all, they're not Microsoft. They don't make their money off the OS, they make it off the hardware, and they sell a BUTTLOAD of hardware. And Apple's philosophy has always been that the hardware and software need to be made for eachother. You can't have the Mac hardware or iDevice hardware without its OS counterpart, and since they've switched to an automated update system without needing a box from a store, you can bet that they will want it to be FREE so they can get it to every machine they can as soon as possible. This is basically what Apple has been striving for since the beginning when they didn't nearly have the ability to do it. Now that it's possible, you can bet they're going to take advantage of it.

Apple TV. Well, if we're talking about a physical TV, I still think it's silly. But as for the box itself, I am hoping for an SDK finally so the Apple TV can compete with Roku. I bought my dad a Roku for Plex because I couldn't be arsed to fiddle around with Jailbreaking an Apple TV just to install a buggy Plex app. If Apple finally made the Apple TV have apps, Plex and all the others could finally put their video services on it. Plus I can totally see the games that would come out for it that utilize iOS devices. It only makes sense! I hope Apple sees this.

1. On the top paragraph, I see Apple having a tactical advantage against Microsoft and their OEM counterparts by releasing Mountain Lion and the new Macs at WWDC. Apple can say "Hey, buy a Mac in a couple of weeks when these new models come out and you get Mountain Lion for free with the system, or if you really need a mac now, you can upgrade to Mountain Lion anytime for $29.99, not just for a limited time if you buy your hardware today or are a current user." Currently Windows and the OEMs are only offering Windows 8 for $14.99 for anyone that bought a computer between 6/2/12-2/1/13 and that you probably have to redeem by the end of Feburary 2013.

2. As far as the Apple TV goes, I would like to see a Pandora app too... I hate the iTunes Radio as half of the stations never like to work.

ritmomundo
Jun 10, 2012, 12:26 PM
I really hope the "Facebook integration" will have an on-off toggle. I don't mind using the standalone app, but I don't need "like" or "update your status" buttons everywhere.

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 12:40 PM
I really hope the "Facebook integration" will have an on-off toggle. I don't mind using the standalone app, but I don't need "like" or "update your status" buttons everywhere.

it'll be the same as the current twitter integration, basically you can share links from safari or photos from photo library.

theonekcrow
Jun 10, 2012, 12:43 PM
I personally would not use the facebook integration. This is because I mainly use Twitter to share stuff anyways and that gets forwarded to my facebook as I have the accounts linked. If I really want to share something on just facebook, I would do it from the facebook app or the web.

ritmomundo
Jun 10, 2012, 12:43 PM
it'll be the same as the current twitter integration, basically you can share links from safari or photos from photo library.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Thats not too bad then.

pmz
Jun 10, 2012, 12:48 PM
I'm actually looking forward to the 100 to 200 new features of iOS 6 that are utterly unknown right now...far more than those incredibly lame known features.

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Macs are way overdue for updates, IVY bridge and USB 3 are out there, model numbers already in the inventory, and stock drying up or being pulled from shelves. I think it's safe to say, THEY'RE BEING UPDATED.

thecurryman
Jun 10, 2012, 01:04 PM
I disagree with both those points. I'm not sure what issues you might have with the leaked redesign but to me it looks great! The idea of a smaller dock alone is worth highlighting - that extra space is potentially better speakers, signal processing, battery life, etc...

It also seems typical for Apple to redesign with every major generation. The 3G/3GS shared the same form factor as does the 4/4S. Nothing out of the ordinary if the 5 is a redesign.

If true, the extra height won't have an effect on single-handed use. That is more to do with the width. The benefits of going to a 4-inch display far outweigh any of sticking with the 3.5-inch one.

Also, the 4S was essentially just a pretty basic updated 4 and that is the best selling iPhone to date. Imagine the numbers a "new" iPhone will do!

Well I have to say I almost completely disagree... IMO I think the leaked design looks awful. Its basically just the 4/4s but longer and a bit thinner.. Not really a redesign. I like the smaller dock however but the leaks just doesn't seem right. Yes 4 inch display is a must but that size display would be perfect on a wider and longer display. PLUS what about all the people who use the phone for texting or in portrait for most apps wouldn't see a benefit. Only video or maybe games would be nicer. But to each his own!

MacinDoc
Jun 10, 2012, 01:19 PM
Yup. Which is exactly why I think apple is trying to stretch out SJ's ideas for as long as possible. Because their level of innovation is unfortunately not the same as SJ's.
SJ may have nixed some ideas and sent others back to the drawing board, but he wasn't the one who designed anything that Apple currently makes.
I'm actually looking forward to the 100 to 200 new features of iOS 6 that are utterly unknown right now...far more than those incredibly lame known features.[COLOR="#808080"]
I take it you're being sarcastic here.

conorm19147
Jun 10, 2012, 02:19 PM
Either the MBPs are gonna get a retina revamp, or they are going to release a new display with retina graphics that is supported on all devices. But either way it seems like the MBPs are gonna get some new ivy bridge chips

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 02:38 PM
Well I have to say I almost completely disagree... IMO I think the leaked design looks awful. Its basically just the 4/4s but longer and a bit thinner.. Not really a redesign. I like the smaller dock however but the leaks just doesn't seem right. Yes 4 inch display is a must but that size display would be perfect on a wider and longer display. PLUS what about all the people who use the phone for texting or in portrait for most apps wouldn't see a benefit. Only video or maybe games would be nicer. But to each his own!

If you're gonna simplify matters like that then the same argument could be said for the OG to 3G, relatively same design, just replaced the aluminium with plastic.

Why make it wider and longer when it doesn't need to be?! Anymore and it's just clunky and not easily useable. Right now I can use my iPhone comfortably in one hand just using my thumb. Any wider and that's ruined.

rikscha
Jun 10, 2012, 02:42 PM
You do use a computer of some sort, don't you? Then use it to find out what time it is elsewhere in the world - e.g., http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Did you complain about the transit of Venus time, too?

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Uh-oh. You're gonna hear from the editors who don't like grammar corrections.

Umm you do have a mac/pc? Under your time settings you will find the right time zone for any country. No need to use a browser.

ahireasu
Jun 10, 2012, 02:52 PM
And that is exactly what is wrong with our society (well, one of the things..). If the phone, or any item for that matter, that you own does what you need it to then you should stick with it. This whole, keeping up with the Jones' thing is, unfortunately human nature, ridiculous.
Well i am not going to speculate on what is wrong with our society but i will say this, i had a phone that was doing his job aka making calls :) and i also had an iPod for listening music and whenever i want it to go online i had to wait to go home after work, then the iPhone came out and it had the iPod in it + i could surf the net anywhere i was so i updated my phone.(ofc there were phones before the iPhone that you can listen music but it was not that functional by my standards).
I change phones every 2 years i had the iPhone 3g then the iPhone 4, the thing is you see there apps and this apps need power to run, apps that will appear in few months will not run so well in the old phone this is how it goes it always was like that + i really need a phone with a bit bigger screen i find the screen a bit small 4" to 4.3" i think is ideal for a smartphone nowadays(personal opinion always) and i really don't want to move to android i find the iOS great, so if the new iPhone is the one we see in the leaks i will have to wait 2 more years to buy a new one.....

Would you go any buy a new TV every year? HiFi, car, microwave.. it's just silly and doesn't make any sense.

In my opinion the current design is good and the software works very well. If anything they should leave it as it is and just update the battery.. I'd love a phone that could go a week or more.
No,no,no and no i don't buy those things unless they are broken but i do buy a phone every 2 years or so :D and i would love to see a iPhone with a better battery but will not happen do to LTE and the bigger screen that will make the new battery last the same as the one on iPhone 4/s (unless you watch movies or play offline games on it there i think the battery will last a bit longer if you have the LTE off).
PS.I love the design of the iPhone 4 but again i want to see something new after 2 years. :)
PS2.Well 21 hours to go we will see then, even tho i believe the iPhone will have its own keynote,well cross fingers who knows we might get surprised.

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 03:04 PM
PS2.Well 21 hours to go we will see then, even tho i believe the iPhone will have its own keynote,well cross fingers who knows we might get surprised.

I think you'll be disappointed if you're expecting an iPhone announcement tomorrow. It's going to be october again like last year. If they were going back to the original cycle, there would have been an iOS 6 announcement back in April/May.

tekboi
Jun 10, 2012, 03:04 PM
There's no way that apple is going to premier all of that stuff. You guys are setting your expectations way too high.

This is most definitely going to be about iOS6 and Mountain Lion... everything else is just a shot in the dark.

shandyman
Jun 10, 2012, 03:18 PM
There's no way that apple is going to premier all of that stuff. You guys are setting your expectations way too high.

This is most definitely going to be about iOS6 and Mountain Lion... everything else is just a shot in the dark.

As stated earlier. iCloud improvements, such as notes, etc is not a shot in the dark though. There's app the leaks plus the banner outside with iOS 6 and mountain lion...

quasibinaer
Jun 10, 2012, 04:11 PM
iCloud notes would be a big one for me. That and a dedicated notes app, like calendar, for the mac. Stickies does not cut it.

Evernote. There´s nothing better!

BornAgainApple
Jun 10, 2012, 04:55 PM
Not sure if this has been asked before, but what happens to the native Maps app on my iPhone 2G after Apple drops Google? Will it continue to work or will I need to use the Google Maps app? Thanks!

belltree
Jun 10, 2012, 05:18 PM
The poor Mini being left out. I hope something comes up with regard to it this week.

Drew017
Jun 10, 2012, 05:27 PM
I for one am really excited about iOS 6 and Mountain Lion! I can't wait to see what Apple has in store for us!

MvdM
Jun 10, 2012, 05:30 PM
I want a smaller iPhone. Credit card size, only thicker of course.

mrculy
Jun 10, 2012, 05:35 PM
When will I be able to buy the new mac book pro

tech4all
Jun 10, 2012, 05:41 PM
It is truly pathetic, people begging a corporation for a product and begging for it to take their money. And then, begging some more. And drooling. One cannot embarrass himself publicly any more in view that it is only about a disposable electronic product. WTF??!!

Meanwhile, it is important to commend Apple for the unprecedented ability to keep a complex and time consuming process of manufacturing a vast number of devices in huge quantities - a global secret. This is, when also taking into account so many needed subcontractors, a phenomenal achievement.

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blakey91
Jun 10, 2012, 05:43 PM
Hope there is some news on the new iphone, my contract runs out soon :(

ethana
Jun 10, 2012, 06:24 PM
The keynote is 90 minutes long. A good 30 minutes total or so is fluff, self back-patting, and demos.

That leaves 60 minutes for real announcements. I think 30 minutes for iOS, 15 minutes for Mountain Lion, and 15 minutes for something else (hardware refresh, AppleTV developer API, or something like that).

With iOS they will do the whole "tentpole" thing where they'll talk about 3-5 major areas and then say "over 200 new features we didn't talk about are in iOS 6".... 50% of which will just be new API calls for devs.

Mountain Lion will most likely be a complete rehash of what we already know with maybe a thing or two thrown in, as well as pricing and release date.

Let's keep expectations low people. Apple probably isn't going to blow anyone away (at least from people here on the forums daily).

I've learned my lesson year after year after year with over-predicting Apple events.

Slovak
Jun 10, 2012, 06:44 PM
iWork and iTunes upgrades.

belltree
Jun 10, 2012, 06:48 PM
iWork and iTunes upgrades.

and iLife.

pmau
Jun 10, 2012, 06:52 PM
Not sure if this has been asked before, but what happens to the native Maps app on my iPhone 2G after Apple drops Google? Will it continue to work or will I need to use the Google Maps app? Thanks!

It will stop working, only displaying an Android sitting on top of a spinning globe on which Cupertino is always facing towards you...

Or ... it'll just continue working because the tiles are available to anyone on the web...

kavika411
Jun 10, 2012, 08:03 PM
Just to preserve my hope/prediction for tomorrow - Apple will "re-invent" device-to-device, computer-to-computer, device-to-computer networking with Bluetooth 4.

twoodcc
Jun 10, 2012, 08:10 PM
hopefully it'll be a good WWDC this year. we'll find out soon!

wvanderark
Jun 10, 2012, 08:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we see the following:

-Apple version of Microsoft Zune Music Pass. You pay a small fee every month and have access to all music

-Face Unlock

-Facebook Interrogation

-Something similar to "Android Beam"

-Face unlock

-Some sort of Widget capabilities

It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. I hope it is even better than we expected!

strausd
Jun 10, 2012, 08:39 PM
Anyone else think we will see the start of the back to school program tomorrow?

Hope there is some news on the new iphone, my contract runs out soon :(

Don't know why people keep thinking the new iPhone is going to come out tomorrow. It is not going to.

Right now with your contract about to end is just you going through the same thing that 3GS owners went through last year.

boccabella
Jun 10, 2012, 08:39 PM
Apple Search is coming, I can feel it.

drewisanapple
Jun 10, 2012, 09:03 PM
The keynote is 90 minutes long. A good 30 minutes total or so is fluff, self back-patting, and demos.

That leaves 60 minutes for real announcements. I think 30 minutes for iOS, 15 minutes for Mountain Lion, and 15 minutes for something else (hardware refresh, AppleTV developer API, or something like that).

With iOS they will do the whole "tentpole" thing where they'll talk about 3-5 major areas and then say "over 200 new features we didn't talk about are in iOS 6".... 50% of which will just be new API calls for devs.

Mountain Lion will most likely be a complete rehash of what we already know with maybe a thing or two thrown in, as well as pricing and release date.

Let's keep expectations low people. Apple probably isn't going to blow anyone away (at least from people here on the forums daily).

I've learned my lesson year after year after year with over-predicting Apple events.

Why do you think that it must be 90 minutes. People are not aware that we have had times that go over the "set time". It is not, a time limit

tundoopani
Jun 10, 2012, 09:08 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we see the following:

...

-Facebook Interrogation

...

I don't think Facebook needs to interrogate me. It already knows everything about me.


Anyone else think we will see the start of the back to school program tomorrow?

We are pretty much into June already. It has to come up soon, if it does at all. If my memory serves me correctly, Apple moved to offering gift cards rather than iPods last year, right? Are we expecting the same, or does Apple need some help clearing their inventory? ;)

REM314
Jun 10, 2012, 09:32 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up for a huge Macbook Pro redesign/improvement. If they're releasing that many models (+ iOS6 + Mountain Lion) then it'll probably just be a boring specs bump. That is if they even release them tomorrow! Considering the back-to-school program hasn't started that makes me doubt that Apple will release new models. They usually like clearing their stock with the sale first.

I need new hardware Apple!

blow45
Jun 10, 2012, 09:50 PM
I hope you boys at mr have some decent infrastructure to cover the event, because the crashes this site has gone through in similar events are numerous.

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I don't think Facebook needs to interrogate me. It already knows everything about me.




We are pretty much into June already. It has to come up soon, if it does at all. If my memory serves me correctly, Apple moved to offering gift cards rather than iPods last year, right? Are we expecting the same, or does Apple need some help clearing their inventory? ;)

facebook interrogation!!!! lol! ftw! That's what's gonna be happening to us by one authority or the other the way we let the bastards at facebook share our data and allow people to create files on us... Knock, knock it's facebook interrogation time.

strausd
Jun 10, 2012, 09:54 PM
We are pretty much into June already. It has to come up soon, if it does at all. If my memory serves me correctly, Apple moved to offering gift cards rather than iPods last year, right? Are we expecting the same, or does Apple need some help clearing their inventory? ;)

Ya, they did $100 gift cards for iTunes and all their digital content. I am expecting it to be the same thing this year.

JordanJ
Jun 11, 2012, 12:29 AM
Just one more thing .... plz ;)

Will Apple stream the event live?
No

Henk Poley
Jun 11, 2012, 01:33 AM
Could use some 802.11ac in their lineup.

Minority_taxi
Jun 11, 2012, 02:28 AM
Am I the only excited about the possibility of a new keyboard or touch setup? They have so many patents in this area, surely we are going to see something like Leap Motions 3D air touch device? This is what I'm hoping for! :D

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Macrumors has an international focus and not US only and it annoys me that you only post the US time for all Apple events (10am Pacific).
Many of your readers will have no idea what Pacific actually refers to.

It would be good if you could at least add Paris or London time for Europe.

Use world clock on your iPhone!

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Yup. Which is exactly why I think apple is trying to stretch out SJ's ideas for as long as possible. Because their level of innovation is unfortunately not the same as SJ's.

You also know then that Jonathan ivy designed most of those award winning devices? SJ was a visionary but if Samsung can compete with Apple then don't doubt what current employees at Apple can do. I would not see bad products coming out of apple for at least another ten years and then perhaps I'll be working for them then :)

mrxak
Jun 11, 2012, 02:29 AM
Siri, remind me in nine and a half hours to start reading about your cousins.

Dino F
Jun 11, 2012, 02:57 AM
No

This sight is claiming they WILL be streaming it however obviously not sure if it actually will be live until later on: http://www.wwdclive.com/#

karelianBear
Jun 11, 2012, 09:41 AM
Expectations to see deep integration of Mac OS to iOS and to iCloud. This most exciting as iCloud in middle will tie together these two OS-systems.

Most likely Mountain Lion will be released soon and iOS 6 will coming later on summer. Mac Books upgrade will be long waited release and more features from iOS will be found from new Mac OS .). iOS 6 new features will be most interested to see too.

New iPhone, maybe around the corner for surprise all :eek:

milo
Jun 11, 2012, 09:50 AM
Please announce immediate availability of Mountain Lion. Plzzz:D

Based on the latest beta, you don't want it yet. They said late summer, and late summer will likely be when it will be stable enough across all supported machines.

CausticPuppy
Jun 11, 2012, 09:52 AM
Siri, remind me in nine and a half hours to start reading about your cousins.

Wouldn't it suck if Siri was only available on iPad's that have a cellular data connection. :eek:

BreuerEditor
Jun 11, 2012, 11:03 AM
Let's do this Apple!!!! New Mac Pros and Mountain Lion!!!

tehBrad
Jun 11, 2012, 11:48 AM
This sight is claiming they WILL be streaming it however obviously not sure if it actually will be live until later on: http://www.wwdclive.com/#

well we crashed that site looool

chrisrosemusic1
Jun 11, 2012, 02:00 PM
New MacBook looks hot - doubt I'll be able to afford it though lol...

Will find out what the price is shortly!

BornAgainApple
Jun 11, 2012, 02:01 PM
Did I miss the Mac Pro update? And taking away the ethernet adapter (which we all knew would happen) and not adding 802.11ac will probably NOT go over well with those who are prepared to plunk down >$2100.

pubwvj
Jun 11, 2012, 02:02 PM
Apple has abandoned Classic and Rosetta so now there is a tremendous amount of software, and the data accessed by said software, that can't run on the new machines. This means I can't upgrade all our machines as we still need access to our old data. Their hardware is plenty fast enough to perform the emulation. The only excuse for Apple's dropping Classic and Rosetta is greed. But the result is lost sales of Apple.

Clown Boy
Jun 11, 2012, 02:04 PM
This full event was a GIANT fail. Bring back Steve.

Reach9
Jun 11, 2012, 02:18 PM
quite the opposite. This WWDC doesn't look like it'll be that big of a deal.

iOS 6 will not be a major overhaul of the UI, a lot of people will be disappointed.

Just like Lion, Mountain Lion will be a lot of regurgitation of the features mentioned before, with none or very few new features for the final release.. just like Lion.

new Macs. This is where the main party will be, looking forward to slimmer versions.

Also, isn't this year's WWDC presentation supposed to be shorter than the usual ones? I thought i read that somewhere, correct me if i'm wrong.

just my thoughts. Still looking forward to all of the above mentioned!

Just as predicted, it was a very "meh" event. I still enjoyed what i saw, but i felt that Apple can do much more.

Also, only the 15" MBP is the slim one? that's a bummer.