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zimv20
Jul 17, 2005, 08:49 PM
link (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/17/IRAQCOST.TMP)


Many question long-term cost

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have already cost taxpayers $314 billion, and the Congressional Budget Office projects additional expenses of perhaps $450 billion over the next 10 years.

The could make the combined campaigns, especially the war in Iraq, the most expensive military conflicts in the last 60 years, causing even some conservative experts to criticize the open-ended commitment to an elusive goal. The concern is that the soaring costs, given little weight before now, could play a growing role in U.S. strategic decisions because of the fiscal impact.


The Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a nonpartisan Washington think tank, has estimated that the Korean War cost about $430 billion and the Vietnam War cost about $600 billion, in current dollars. According to the latest estimates, the cost of the war in Iraq could exceed $700 billion.

Put simply, critics say, the war is not making the United States safer and is harming U.S. taxpayers by saddling them with an enormous debt burden, since the war is being financed with deficit spending.


James Jay Carafano, a senior fellow for national security and homeland security at the Heritage Foundation, which supports the president on most matters, warned that the war's costs would only rise because of the growing need to repair and replace battered military equipment, from helicopters to Humvees. In addition, the rising death toll is making it harder for the military to recruit new soldiers, and long deployments are hurting the morale of National Guard and reserve units sent to Iraq.

If the White House does not increase military spending, Carafano warned, the United States could end up with both a looming disaster in Iraq and a weaker military.

"I don't think we're going to have enough money to run this military based on what they're asking for," said Carafano. "If you don't increase spending, you can hollow out the military."

He added that the war itself increasingly looked like a bad investment: "I think there is a point of diminishing returns in Iraq. There is a point where you're just throwing money at the problem. Quite frankly, I think we're at the tipping point."


In September 2002, the Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan research arm of Congress, estimated that the war would cost $1.5 billion to $4 billion per month. In fact, it costs between $5 billion and $8 billion per month.


Edward Luttwak, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and a former military consultant to both Republican and Democratic administrations, said the unexpectedly high costs showed inappropriate military priorities in Iraq. He said too much was being spent on operating high-tech weaponry, such as jet fighters and naval battle groups, and not enough on troops, which are best at fighting elusive insurgents. That just further proves that the U.S. military, Luttwak said, is the best on earth at fighting conventional wars, but one of the worst at policing and counterinsurgencies.

For example, he noted that heavy Air Force fighters, such as the F-15E, were being used for aerial reconnaissance, when cheaper aircraft might work better. He questioned why a huge Navy battle group, including an aircraft carrier, was stationed near Iraq, when it offered little help in fighting a largely hidden insurgency in Iraq's towns and cities.

wow, even the Heritage Foundation is skeptical.



miloblithe
Jul 17, 2005, 11:30 PM
I imagine the carrier group is there for Iran's benefit.

Hello!

mactastic
Jul 18, 2005, 11:37 AM
But...but...but I thought us skeptics were told before the war that it would only cost a fraction of that. And that Iraq would largely fund its own reconstruction with oil revenues.

skunk
Jul 18, 2005, 11:39 AM
But...but...but I thought us skeptics were told before the war that it would only cost a fraction of that. And that Iraq would largely fund its own reconstruction with oil revenues.3/1 is still a fraction.

zimv20
Jul 18, 2005, 11:44 AM
3/1 is still a fraction.
:-)

joepunk
Jul 18, 2005, 11:51 AM
Just to add a little more to this thread about spending on military projects.

Exploding Price Tags: The cost of America's high tech military (http://www.times7tv.com/episode3/enterprise.html)

Designed at the height of the Cold War to penetrate Soviet radars without being detected, and to shoot down Soviet jets in the event of World War III, the Raptor has taken 23 years to move from the drawing board to the assembly line and into an Air Force fighter squadron. Each jet will cost $330 million, making the Raptor the most expensive fighter jet in history.

Not be outdone, the U.S. Navy is building the DD(X) destroyer, at the price tag of $3 billion each. And then there's the Army's Future Combat System; at $145 billion, it will be the most expensive weapon system ever built.

It's all just part of the master plan, according to Winslow T. Wheeler, who analyzed armaments spending as a Senate staff member advising both Republicans and Democrats for 31 years. "The national defense part of all our security-related spending is now greater than every other nation on earth combined," he says.

skunk
Jul 18, 2005, 11:57 AM
Just to add a little more to this thread about spending on military projects.

Exploding Price Tags: The cost of America's high tech military (http://www.times7tv.com/episode3/enterprise.html)And the Master Plan is?

mactastic
Jul 18, 2005, 12:07 PM
And the Master Plan is?
'What are we going to do tonight Brain?'
'The same thing we do every night Pinky. Try to take over the world.'

skunk
Jul 18, 2005, 12:17 PM
'What are we going to do tonight Brain?'
'The same thing we do every night Pinky. Try to take over the world.'Oh, that old chestnut. "Conker the world..."
:D

Roger1
Jul 18, 2005, 12:25 PM
'What are we going to do tonight Brain?'
'The same thing we do every night Pinky. Try to take over the world.'

I was talking to a buddy the other day. We decided Bush was Pinky, and Rove was Brain. :p

mactastic
Jul 18, 2005, 12:44 PM
Unfortunetely, Bush and Rove have been far more successful than Pinky and the Brain ever were...