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Jun 15, 2012, 03:13 PM
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As is typical when previewing a new operating system, on Monday Apple's Scott Forstall showed off 10 main features (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/11/apple-announces-ios-6-with-siri-improvements-facebook-integration-new-maps-app-passbook-for-fall-release/) of iOS 6 including improvements to Siri, Facebook Integration, a new Maps app, and a Do Not Disturb mode.

However, there is a lot more to the next iPhone operating system than that. A slide shown at the end of Monday's keynote displayed a number of new features that didn't warrant full keynote coverage but are still worth mention to iOS users:

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- Users can now set custom email alerts (http://www.cultofmac.com/173119/ios-6-adds-per-person-email-alerts/) for any of their VIP contacts.

- Turning Bluetooth on and off is much quicker (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/11/first_look_ios_6_settings_adds_do_not_disturb_quicker_bluetooth_access.html) than it was in iOS 5. Bluetooth controls are now located in first page of System Preferences, next to the Wi-Fi and Airplane Mode controls.

- The iPad gains a native Clock app (http://www.cultofmac.com/173137/the-ipad-finally-gets-a-native-clock-app-and-access-to-weather/) with similar function to the iPhone version.

- Users no longer need to enter their password (http://www.cultofmac.com/173139/new-in-ios-6-passwords-no-longer-required-for-app-store-updates-previous-purchases/) to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.

- Newly downloaded apps gain a temporary 'New' banner (http://www.cultofmac.com/173126/new-in-ios-6-more-emoji-icons-banners-for-new-apps-badges-for-reminders-app/) on the icon to make them easier to pick them out.

- Geofencing alerts have been added to Find My Friends (http://www.macworld.com/article/1167267/geofencing_alerts_to_come_to_find_my_friends_this_fall.html). One possible use, suggested by Macworld: "If you're one of the many workers who carpools, you can set up a geofence on the driver to let you know when they leave their house."

- In iOS 5, the color of the menu bar would change depending on what was happening in the background -- green for a phone call or blue for Personal Hotspot. In iOS 6 those colors still exist, but the menu bar changes color to better complement the app (http://www.cultofmac.com/173232/in-ios-6-the-status-bar-changes-color-to-match-the-app-youre-running/). MaxThemes.com has more on how Apple color-matches the menu bar (http://blog.maxthemes.com/post/25149798543/how-the-adaptive-status-bar-in-ios6-determines-which).

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- One of the most unnecessary additions to iOS 6 is also one of the most telling. Apple has made the metallic volume slider in the iPod app and elsewhere change its reflection (http://gizmodo.com/5917967/you-wont-believe-how-insane-this-tiny-new-detail-in-ios-6-is) as the iPhone is tilted -- as if it were actually reflecting light. While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail.

Article Link: iOS 6's Smaller Changes: Custom Email Alerts, 'Find My Friends' Geofencing and More (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/15/ios-6s-smaller-changes-custom-email-alerts-find-my-friends-geofencing-and-more/)



urbanj
Jun 15, 2012, 03:18 PM
I would love the ability to double tap the home button and swipe past the music, swipe past the volume and get to a brightness slider. It would also be better to have a toggle for wifi and bluetooth in that swipe tray as well.

oh well.....

marcusj0015
Jun 15, 2012, 03:18 PM
Very nice, all those little fixes seem to have fixed all the iOS annoyances. Good job Apple! :)

So, Apple's patent for "time of day based shadows" for lack of a better term, is actually real?! Holy **** that's awesome!

MOKHAN
Jun 15, 2012, 03:19 PM
It's little things like the metallic slider that fuel the iPhone's unmatched success.

lmddawson
Jun 15, 2012, 03:20 PM
such a tiny feature, but that metallic slider sure is pretty damn clever :p

Mike Oxard
Jun 15, 2012, 03:21 PM
Staying in the App store after making a purchase, yaaaay!!!!

owine
Jun 15, 2012, 03:21 PM
Have to mention the addition of per account email signatures. Been clamoring for this for a long time.

jclardy
Jun 15, 2012, 03:22 PM
I'm still waiting for background process indicators.

Essentially, if an app is actively navigating (Like maps or Navigon) it gets a little circle icon (Like the notification number in the top right) in the top left with the navigation arrow. Likewise they could add ones for general background processing (a gear), background downloads (a spinning activity indicator?), music (a quarter note) and any of the other "active" background modes.

This would help immensely to help users distinguish apps that are actively using resources in the background versus ones that just have a saved state. Also there are still many apps that don't implement background downloads, and so when I leave the app during a download the only way to tell if it is continuing is by opening the app and checking if the progress bar has moved.

marty1980
Jun 15, 2012, 03:24 PM
I like this line that I found on the slide => "IPv6 support for Wi-Fi and LTE"

The LTE being the important thing to take note of. I think everyone already assumes that the next round of iDevices are going to include an LTE option (phones won't have an option). This is one of the first official documents that I've seen of Apple confirming LTE support in iOS.

This is great for me since AT&T has launched it's LTE network in my area and I've been off contract since August 2011. So I'm ready for an upgrade, but I'm holding off for the new iPhone.

drblank
Jun 15, 2012, 03:25 PM
Knowing Apple, it probably didn't take much time to do, so someone probably figured it was worthwhile since it was probably easy to write the code.

HiRez
Jun 15, 2012, 03:26 PM
Changing the anisotropic angles with the tilt is fairly awesome. Sure, it serves no great purpose, but I can't believe people complain about it.

applebro24
Jun 15, 2012, 03:26 PM
"All the little things" forum:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1383248

connorstanton
Jun 15, 2012, 03:27 PM
Clock has a new icon too (even-width hands in iOS 6 compared to tapered hands in iOS 5).

swingerofbirch
Jun 15, 2012, 03:28 PM
I'm not sure I would say there is a fanaticism to detail. This is more of a case of Apple doing something clever for the sake of being clever. Attention to detail would be if they noticed something was a pixel off and fixed it. Changing something that wasn't broken to something that has a "cool" effect is something but it's not attention to detail. Attention to detail would be fixing Bluetooth File Exchange, which still in 10.7.4, has not been fixed. It's an advertised feature of Lion, yet the entire UI was broken by the Lion update and has never been touched by Apple's hands as far as I can tell during the Snow Leopard to Lion transition. Attention to detail would be making fullscreen Pages mode actually fill the screen and give you a toolbar, rather than presenting a document letterboxed on all sides with no toolbar.

If anything, I think Apple's attention to detail has decreased over the last 5 years when it comes to software.

marcusj0015
Jun 15, 2012, 03:28 PM
I like this line that I found on the slide => "IPv6 support for Wi-Fi and LTE"

The LTE being the important thing to take note of. I think everyone already assumes that the next round of iDevices are going to include an LTE option (phones won't have an option). This is one of the first official documents that I've seen of Apple confirming LTE support in iOS.

This is great for me since AT&T has launched it's LTE network in my area and I've been off contract since August 2011. So I'm ready for an upgrade, but I'm holding off for the new iPhone.

They most likely support IPv6 over LTE because it's a requirement with Verizon.

GenesisST
Jun 15, 2012, 03:29 PM
I think I will install ios 6 on my shiny new iPad 3 just for the clock...

a.jfred
Jun 15, 2012, 03:29 PM
... Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.




That alone makes me happy. It's always been a bit of an annoyance to me.

RoboCop001
Jun 15, 2012, 03:29 PM
I wonder if the engineer had to ask permission to do that, or if he just went, "Hey it would be cool if it did this" and just did it lol

nostaws
Jun 15, 2012, 03:29 PM
Native clock app!

Bobby Corwen
Jun 15, 2012, 03:30 PM
Awesome details. The magnificence of Apple is in the details. Genius is in the details in everything else in life and art.

I love Apple.

ZZ Bottom
Jun 15, 2012, 03:31 PM
While these are all welcomed additions, can't help but to be disappointed by the improvements that weren't made.

- Multitask switching would greatly benefit from an Expose style switcher (especially on iPad).
- Quick settings changes accessible in Notification Center (like wifi, vpn, brightness).

iOS 6 is going to seem behind on productive functionality compared to Windows 8 RT tablets that will be out in fall. I in no way prefer Windows, but I do like their side-by-side metro apps feature. I used to try to type research papers on the iPad. Extremely annoying having to swipe back and forth incessantly as I go from Kindle/Safari to Pages.

Tymmz
Jun 15, 2012, 03:32 PM
i'm not in the market for an iPad at the moment, but if i ever get one i would love to have the presence of a guest account.

the iPad sure would be left on the coffee table for everyone else to be used, but i wouldn't want anyone to have access to my personal stuff like pictures and messages and such.

Simplicated
Jun 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
I think it's "better complement the app", not compliment.

bdkennedy1
Jun 15, 2012, 03:38 PM
I don't think Apple spent any resources on that reflective button. It's more likely an intern wrote it or someone else as an extracurricular project.

Rocketman
Jun 15, 2012, 03:41 PM
Visible reflection is like an overt Easter egg. I understand Eater eggs are "no longer allowed", but one wonders how many get through anyway. Probably more in the dev releases than the public ones, eh?

I also wonder what the process is for "gee wiz" features. They certainly include quite a few as the "200 new features" and focus on the utility ones during Keynotes.

cotak
Jun 15, 2012, 03:45 PM
- One of the most unnecessaryadditions to iOS 6 is also one of the most telling. Apple has made the metallic volume slider in the iPod app and elsewhere change its reflection (http://gizmodo.com/5917967/you-wont-believe-how-insane-this-tiny-new-detail-in-ios-6-is) as the iPhone is tilted -- as if it were actually reflecting light. While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail.
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The bold is all you need to know.

We have all been to restaurants where the food is presented like art that tastes like you are literally eating a painting. While the hole in the wall with great food and mismatched furniture can be so busy during meals it's crazy.

I don't care for this sort of thing being called "attention to detail". There's a better term for it and it's shorten to OCD. Remember this is a company that didn't update java while there was a security issue and clear text logged people's password for secure volumes. Something's wrong when a company doesn't have time to check for serious security issues but spend effort on adding animated reflection to a god damn button.

milo
Jun 15, 2012, 03:46 PM
- Users no longer need to enter their password (http://www.cultofmac.com/173139/new-in-ios-6-passwords-no-longer-required-for-app-store-updates-previous-purchases/) to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.

- Newly downloaded apps gain a temporary 'New' banner (http://www.cultofmac.com/173126/new-in-ios-6-more-emoji-icons-banners-for-new-apps-badges-for-reminders-app/) on the icon to make them easier to pick them out.


Glad to see these, it never made any sense to require password to download a free update to an app. And dumping out of the app store after upgrading was really annoying.

Now if they could just add "skip this update" to the app store I'd be really happy with it.

Still no weather app though on the iPad? I'm still trying to figure that one out.

applebro24
Jun 15, 2012, 03:51 PM
Still no weather app though on the iPad? I'm still trying to figure that one out.

The new iPad clock app give the current weather in any city you add to the world clock. Better than nothing...

arkmannj
Jun 15, 2012, 03:53 PM
I would love the ability to double tap the home button and swipe past the music, swipe past the volume and get to a brightness slider. It would also be better to have a toggle for wifi and bluetooth in that swipe tray as well.

oh well.....

I've sent in such a feedback request several times. Hopefully other people will too so they know it is a feature many of us would like and would use.

ArtOfWarfare
Jun 15, 2012, 03:53 PM
You dramatically underappreciate that reflective metal. We're on our way to having the holodeck from startrek next gen.

Add in some kind of 3D visual simulation and some simulated tactical feedback and input devices with real controls will be rendered obsolete, because we'll have virtual controls that are at least as good as the real thing.

Howardchief
Jun 15, 2012, 03:55 PM
Geofencing could be huge. Driving around town.. pass a location.. triggers an action. Maybe triggers a phone call. "Hey Siri, when I pass the bridge, call work to let them know... blah blah."

Use your imagination. Geofencing = awesome.
Geofencing + smarter Siri = :eek:

Limboistik
Jun 15, 2012, 03:56 PM
What is with Apple's stubbornness on not implementing a quick settings menu??
Just cause Android has one? Come on Apple.

newagemac
Jun 15, 2012, 03:59 PM
I like this line that I found on the slide => "IPv6 support for Wi-Fi and LTE"

The LTE being the important thing to take note of. I think everyone already assumes that the next round of iDevices are going to include an LTE option (phones won't have an option). This is one of the first official documents that I've seen of Apple confirming LTE support in iOS.

This is great for me since AT&T has launched it's LTE network in my area and I've been off contract since August 2011. So I'm ready for an upgrade, but I'm holding off for the new iPhone.

You do realize iOS already supports LTE in the new iPad right?

Undecided
Jun 15, 2012, 04:02 PM
- One of the most unnecessary additions to iOS 6 is also one of the most telling. Apple has made the metallic volume slider in the iPod app and elsewhere change its reflection (http://gizmodo.com/5917967/you-wont-believe-how-insane-this-tiny-new-detail-in-ios-6-is) as the iPhone is tilted -- as if it were actually reflecting light. While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail.

I like their attention to detail. Sure, it creeps into areas not directly related to functionality, but that really is just a byproduct of the same attention to detail that directly results in the Mac and iOS experience we know and love (generally). I'd gladly accept unnecessary details for the gain of many more beneficial details. PC / Android phone makers seem to believe in the opposite.

Actually, I'll add that to the catalog of opposites, another being how Apple gets you to buy a new phone by making the current experience great, while others try to get you to buy a new phone by making the current experience awful (this is not original on my part but from some article about how Apple does such a great job of rolling out new iOS versions to existing phones).

tyson12zoll
Jun 15, 2012, 04:03 PM
Something's wrong when a company doesn't have time to check for serious security issues but spend effort on adding animated reflection to a god damn button.

I'm sure the volume slider reflection engineer is a real wiz at security. Any way, your analogy is off. Apple are the the restaurant where the food looks like a painting but tastes great, and its busy as hell.

GenesisST
Jun 15, 2012, 04:04 PM
The bold is all you need to know.

We have all been to restaurants where the food is presented like art that tastes like you are literally eating a painting. While the hole in the wall with great food and mismatched furniture can be so busy during meals it's crazy.

I don't care for this sort of thing being called "attention to detail". There's a better term for it and it's shorten to OCD. Remember this is a company that didn't update java while there was a security issue and clear text logged people's password for secure volumes. Something's wrong when a company doesn't have time to check for serious security issues but spend effort on adding animated reflection to a god damn button.

It depends... this could have been a dev's attempt to fill the last hour of a day. You know you have this task and that task, but they take more than an hour, you don't want to start right now... so you try to find a bug to fix, etc... then you get a flash and implement a little something. And it happens to catch on.

tigress666
Jun 15, 2012, 04:07 PM
- Turning Bluetooth on and off is much quicker (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/11/first_look_ios_6_settings_adds_do_not_disturb_quicker_bluetooth_access.html) than it was in iOS 5. Bluetooth controls are now located in first page of System Preferences, next to the Wi-Fi and Airplane Mode controls.

It's a start. I still think I'd love to be able to put wi-fi and bluethooth controls on my notification pull down.

- Users no longer need to enter their password (http://www.cultofmac.com/173139/new-in-ios-6-passwords-no-longer-required-for-app-store-updates-previous-purchases/) to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.

FINALLY!!!! Especially to the latter part about not being kicked to the home screen. But yes, I really like that I won't have to enter my password for store updates.

- One of the most unnecessary additions to iOS 6 is also one of the most telling. Apple has made the metallic volume slider in the iPod app and elsewhere change its reflection (http://gizmodo.com/5917967/you-wont-believe-how-insane-this-tiny-new-detail-in-ios-6-is) as the iPhone is tilted -- as if it were actually reflecting light. While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail.

I'll have to remember this to play with it when I get my new iphone. Small touches like this amuse me when pointed out (I'm the kind of person though that would never have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out to me).

blackcrayon
Jun 15, 2012, 04:08 PM
Javascript performance in Safari has again been improved over iOS 5. Funny how much room there is to continue to improve it.

50548
Jun 15, 2012, 04:14 PM
such a tiny feature, but that metallic slider sure is pretty damn clever :p

I am still waiting for a MAJOR revamp of the horrid, atrocious, ridiculous iPad Music app...any news on that?

Don't believe it? Check this link:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20122563-37/how-apple-screwed-up-the-ipad-music-app-with-ios-5/

On the other hand, a GREAT and welcome timesaver with the following:

"Users no longer need to enter their password to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store."

cotak
Jun 15, 2012, 04:16 PM
It depends... this could have been a dev's attempt to fill the last hour of a day. You know you have this task and that task, but they take more than an hour, you don't want to start right now... so you try to find a bug to fix, etc... then you get a flash and implement a little something. And it happens to catch on.

It's exactly this lack of code control that can get you into trouble. It's not back and white but if the attitude is you can slip in what you feel like for small things it can grow and eventually people start slipping in something that's quite a bit more serious than a reflection.

New things like this are also additional burden on QA and potentially making a bit of software more resource hungry than it should be. For years Microsoft had the reputation for bloat. If you don't have a process to control what goes into your code or don't have a strong process bloat can happen.

My concern is the lack of real attention to big issue and a lot of attention to things that you and I will forget about after a few days.

Don't get me wrong I am all for "neat" stuff but this is a bit extreme. Look up a few post someone asked about why they didn't make a quick settings menu. Enough time to make a reflection that doesn't make your life easier with the device but not enough for an actually useful feature. It's a slippery slope that I hope they aren't really on.

fruitpunch.ben
Jun 15, 2012, 04:16 PM
You do realize iOS already supports LTE in the new iPad right?

Lol I was just gonna post this exact thing word for word. I guess someone doesn't have an iPad 3 ;)

DavidTheExpert
Jun 15, 2012, 04:17 PM
I like that downloading an app no longer kicks you to the homescreen, and it doesn't ask for a password every time you update an app. It's these little usability tweaks that makes Apple software such a pleasure to use. I just wish they would stop asking for a password every time I download a new FREE app. Talk about unnecessary...

Logic368
Jun 15, 2012, 04:18 PM
I think one of my favorites new features is the fact that the ambient light sensor is continuously sensing the brightness of the environment, and it continually adjusts the brightness of the screen to reflect that.

arkmannj
Jun 15, 2012, 04:21 PM
Has anyone tested iOS6's performance in a 3GS, is it usable or is it even slower than iOS5?

zedsdead
Jun 15, 2012, 04:27 PM
All I want is Group Emailing. This has been an absent feature forever and is rediculous that it still is not implemented.

BillyBobBongo
Jun 15, 2012, 04:29 PM
"All the little things" forum:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1383248

I'm hooked on this thread at the moment. Can't believe I keep missing stuff. The pulldown to refresh email is my favourite!

charlituna
Jun 15, 2012, 04:31 PM
All I want is Group Emailing. This has been an absent feature forever and is rediculous that it still is not implemented.



To go with that, how about being about to create a group, edit groups on your device

And how about being able to change the sync account for a contact or a calendar.

GenesisST
Jun 15, 2012, 04:31 PM
It's exactly this lack of code control that can get you into trouble. It's not back and white but if the attitude is you can slip in what you feel like for small things it can grow and eventually people start slipping in something that's quite a bit more serious than a reflection.

New things like this are also additional burden on QA and potentially making a bit of software more resource hungry than it should be. For years Microsoft had the reputation for bloat. If you don't have a process to control what goes into your code or don't have a strong process bloat can happen.

My concern is the lack of real attention to big issue and a lot of attention to things that you and I will forget about after a few days.

Don't get me wrong I am all for "neat" stuff but this is a bit extreme. Look up a few post someone asked about why they didn't make a quick settings menu. Enough time to make a reflection that doesn't make your life easier with the device but not enough for an actually useful feature. It's a slippery slope that I hope they aren't really on.

Well, it's one thing for a dev to implement something, experiment, etc. To actually make it in the product is another. I wouldn't encourage to blindly commit stuff. But I would encourage passion and experimentation, when time permits, and to show off these little things, which might in turn trigger new ideas.

Personally, if I were a manager on such a project, I wouldn't have allowed that "feature" to continue. But that's me. But at least it would show passion about the product from the developers.

But, that's pure speculation about how it came to be.

vartanarsen
Jun 15, 2012, 04:47 PM
I would love the ability to double tap the home button and swipe past the music, swipe past the volume and get to a brightness slider. It would also be better to have a toggle for wifi and bluetooth in that swipe tray as well.

oh well.....

hmmmmmm, have you HEARD of SBSettings???

BLOND37
Jun 15, 2012, 04:48 PM
please tell me the color is different? no more blue and white???

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All I want is Group Emailing. This has been an absent feature forever and is rediculous that it still is not implemented.


OMG yes!

pmau
Jun 15, 2012, 04:52 PM
I wonder if the GUI tweaks that are leaking from the beta might be useful to "guess" about the phone design. More metallic look and feel from the outside up to the GUI???

miamialley
Jun 15, 2012, 04:55 PM
It's little things like the metallic slider that fuel the iPhone's unmatched success.

Staying in the App store after making a purchase, yaaaay!!!!

You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?

Tortri
Jun 15, 2012, 05:00 PM
I'm surprised this article didn't mention Guided Access under Accessibility.

It suppose to lock the iPad in an app via triple click home button and passlock it if need be. So say you have a young kid that keeps pressing the home button because thats what kids do and you don't want them to leave that app, you could triple press home and will lock into the app until the passcode is entered.

Unfortunately it isn't functioning. This would have been very useful a few months back with my kid but at least they added the ability to iOS 6.

As it quotes itself
"Guided Access keeps the iPhone in a single app, and allows you to control which features are available. To start Guided Access, triple-click the Home button in the app you want to use."

Habakuk
Jun 15, 2012, 05:01 PM
About that reflection thing: I've seen that before in the app Pele Ukulele, a LCD simulator game with a very subtle changing of the LCD segment dynamic shadows when you tilt the iPhone. Looks very realistic. Tried it right now: Doesn't run properly on iPad 3 (but very good on iPad orig. and iPhone 4).

blackcrayon
Jun 15, 2012, 05:01 PM
You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?

You're confusing "attention to detail" with "features you'd like added".

miamialley
Jun 15, 2012, 05:05 PM
You're confusing "attention to detail" with "features you'd like added".

Lacking basic features implies lack of attention to detail. Or, at the very least, attention on the wrong things.

kdarling
Jun 15, 2012, 05:06 PM
I wonder if the engineer had to ask permission to do that, or if he just went, "Hey it would be cool if it did this" and just did it lol

Probably a bit of both :)

The way it works in real life is this:

If everyone likes it, then the boss takes credt for it.

If it turns out to be a flop or controversial, then the boss will swear that the developer did it on their own without permission and will be punished.

Moral of the story: if you're a developer, don't put things in unless you're sure it'll be liked!

androiphone
Jun 15, 2012, 05:08 PM
I'm pretty sure iOS already has IPv6 support (since iOS 4), I wonder if they are going to improve it to include privacy measures with iOS 6?

petsounds
Jun 15, 2012, 05:15 PM
Does anyone have a list of changes for Siri? There was a similar screen presented during the keynote for Siri features that weren't mentioned, but I wasn't able to pause the video to take a screenshot.

ethana
Jun 15, 2012, 05:17 PM
You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?

I am a HUGE fan of Apple and I couldn't agree more...

- No default Weather temp changes on Weather icon?
- Can't hide/show preinstalled apps like Stocks?

Attention to details, yes. Attention to the WRONG details.

Ethan

LemonsofDeath
Jun 15, 2012, 05:37 PM
Is there any news of whether apple will support mass transit directions again? It's very odd they don't even mention it.

Usually apple drops legacy technology but with this map update there is nothing but legacy transit (automobile) options :mad:

Braindead360
Jun 15, 2012, 05:46 PM
One thing I noticed while driving in this morning is that there is a new button next to Siri when you are connected to a Bluetooth device, that allows you to toggle whether commands come through the phone's mic or the BT device's mic. This is something I know I personally was hoping for, since the mic in my self-installed car stereo really sucks, making Siri useless while in the car. Now I can continue to listen to music over BT, but if I want to use Siri for any reason I can without disabling Bluetooth, thus disrupting my music.

newyorksole
Jun 15, 2012, 05:52 PM
You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?

Yeah the contact pictures in Contacts List/Messages App bugs me probably the most. That's so obvious.

I think Apple does a lot right, but they miss a lot of things completely...

Giuly
Jun 15, 2012, 06:01 PM
Any "The Beta rendered my iPhone 3GS useless" posts yet?

bwillwall
Jun 15, 2012, 06:04 PM
Waste of engineering resources? It's art, it is what separates Apple from all others. ESPECIALLY ANDROID, the touch and use experience of every android phone I've ever touched is so bad it drives me insane. The worst is that choppy scrolling!!!

zeromeus
Jun 15, 2012, 06:05 PM
I was so annoyed about having to input my password EACH TIME I update an app... It's so unnecessary since it doesn't involve any money. Another annoyance was the fact that I keep having to go back to the app store each time I'm on a hunt for apps...

Thank goodness all these changes are taking place.

twoodcc
Jun 15, 2012, 06:08 PM
some of these features sound really good! i'm starting to really look forward to iOS 6! especially for my iPad

MOKHAN
Jun 15, 2012, 06:10 PM
You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?

Lower your keyboard brethren, I meant you no harm. An opinion at the most.

adamryan1983
Jun 15, 2012, 06:14 PM
- Users no longer need to enter their password to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.

Awesome! Love this feature.

baller1308
Jun 15, 2012, 06:20 PM
Probably one of those things where they wanted to see if it was possible and then did it, not something that was planned.

fox10078
Jun 15, 2012, 06:21 PM
They most likely support IPv6 over LTE because it's a requirement with Verizon.

Or probably because IPv4 is on its way out, and IPv6 is going to be the future.

btcutter
Jun 15, 2012, 06:30 PM
You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?


I think an Android phone may suit you better.

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I understand we are mostly in US and all speaks English. But don't neglect the languages that iOS 6 will support and allow with Siri. Multiple languages recognition is an amazing feat in ONE machine.

miamialley
Jun 15, 2012, 06:33 PM
I think an Android phone may suit you better.

Android doesn't play as well with my iPad and MBP (as my iPhone). Plus, I'm so ingrained into iTunes at this point I feel a bit stuck with Apple. I love Apple hardware and software, but when it comes to things as described above they are really frustrating. They literally and intentionally hold back features, "just because." If they would only be more responsive to feature updates I would have few complaints. In that sense Android is far ahead.

doelcm82
Jun 15, 2012, 06:35 PM
I hope they make the shifting reflection a property that third party developers can add to their UI elements.

Partly because I think it's cool.

Partly because I think it will annoy the "how dare they waste time on frivolity when there are still starving people in the world" crowd.

Especially because I think it will annoy the "how dare they waste time on frivolity when my list of wanted features is not yet complete" crowd.

Roofy.
Jun 15, 2012, 06:46 PM
So, Apple's patent for "time of day based shadows" for lack of a better term, is actually real?! Holy **** that's awesome!

???? huh

mazz0
Jun 15, 2012, 06:49 PM
How's everyone feel about the colour changing status bar? I think it looks a bit ugly.

Very nice, all those little fixes seem to have fixed all the iOS annoyances. Good job Apple! :)

So, Apple's patent for "time of day based shadows" for lack of a better term, is actually real?! Holy **** that's awesome!

what's this about time of day based shadows?

btcutter
Jun 15, 2012, 06:55 PM
Android doesn't play as well with my iPad and MBP (as my iPhone). Plus, I'm so ingrained into iTunes at this point I feel a bit stuck with Apple. I love Apple hardware and software, but when it comes to things as described above they are really frustrating. They literally and intentionally hold back features, "just because." If they would only be more responsive to feature updates I would have few complaints. In that sense Android is far ahead.

I understand.
I would Jailbreak it. It's pretty safe since we are already on iOS xx already. It'll allow what you want and enjoy the Apple ecosystem.

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People UNDERESTIMATES how important it is for iOS to support multiple languages (even voice now). That's a major reason iPhone outsells Samsung Galaxy phones. People use alphabets do not understand how difficult it it to enter character based languages. iOS has done an incredible job of that.
Voice recognition is various languages is awesome.

Mak47
Jun 15, 2012, 06:56 PM
Is there any news of whether apple will support mass transit directions again? It's very odd they don't even mention it.

Usually apple drops legacy technology but with this map update there is nothing but legacy transit (automobile) options :mad:

Mass transit directions would be great. The problem is likely that mass transit authorities don't provide up to date route or schedule information in a way that the app could use it reliably. With that info it would be an absolutely fantastic feature.

However, calling automobile navigation "legacy" technology is pretty dense.

Outside of bigger cities, mass transit barely exists, especially in the US. Eliminating directions for people with cars would be the stupidest thing I could possibly imagine doing with a maps/navigation app.

Rocko1
Jun 15, 2012, 07:01 PM
Not getting kicked back to home screen after buying or updating an app is stellar. Also not signing in for updating an app is also very nice.

Tones2
Jun 15, 2012, 07:06 PM
Any changes to the terrible music app on the iPad? Including the displaying embedded lyrics once again? That's really the ONLY thing I want from iOS 6.

ScooterLibby
Jun 15, 2012, 07:20 PM
The native clock is great, but I would really like to see a native calculator. People actually use the iPad and work or study situations and this would be quite useful.

S3R6i0
Jun 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
"While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail."

Incredible attention to detail? Like how Reminders, for example, is missing the feature to change order of tasks? I can't believe my ****ing eyes!

Galatian
Jun 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
Oh wow...so I've been asking for a clock app ever since the iPad came out and Apple now finally thinks they should add the same functions of their other premium product (iPhone) to their second most money making device (iPad). iPad 2 and 3 get a clock and iPad 3 can finally work as a personal hotspot. To bad these are hardware restrictions, now I really feel like I need to upgrade from my iPad 1...oh wait? I rather not but any iPad again because I will probably get screwed over again by Apple.

cameronjpu
Jun 15, 2012, 07:25 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Siri told me who was calling when the phone rings over my headphones?

kwikdeth
Jun 15, 2012, 07:30 PM
wow, a light-changing volume slider? how cool?
does that also mean that it will actually display my songs and artists in correct alphabetical order as well? Ive been dealing with it since 5.0 and it remains unfixed for myself and many others (just search "sort order problem" on apple forums)
but hey, we get more useless stuff while the most basic functionality remains broken release after release.

You've changed, Apple.

marksman
Jun 15, 2012, 07:39 PM
Good to use geofencing on your wife so if she comes within five miles of the house you can hurry the girlfriend out. This is awesome.

inkswamp
Jun 15, 2012, 07:51 PM
I've already heard Android fans screaming about how unnecessary the slider reflection is and how it just "wastes cycles." Strange, given that it's those same people who defend animated wallpapers, widgets and apps that create animated effects on the homescreen (my wife's old Android phone used to show weather effects on the homescreen, for example.)

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Oh wow...so I've been asking for a clock app ever since the iPad came out and Apple now finally thinks they should add the same functions of their other premium product (iPhone) to their second most money making device (iPad). iPad 2 and 3 get a clock and iPad 3 can finally work as a personal hotspot. To bad these are hardware restrictions, now I really feel like I need to upgrade from my iPad 1...oh wait? I rather not but any iPad again because I will probably get screwed over again by Apple.

I feel your pain. Too bad there's not some App Store or something like that with hundreds of free clock apps. This is so outrageous! Especially after Apple tricked us all by promising a super-awesome clock app on the iPad. Apple truly has become evil. Evil, I tell ya. Evil!

The drama is what keeps me coming back to MacRumors.

marcusj0015
Jun 15, 2012, 07:55 PM
How's everyone feel about the colour changing status bar? I think it looks a bit ugly.



what's this about time of day based shadows?

Read the last line on Macrumors article, it's under the pic where no one ever looks, I only found it on a second look lol.

portishead
Jun 15, 2012, 08:03 PM
"- Users no longer need to enter their password to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store."

THANK YOU!!!!!

Especially since Apple made me change my password to a longer one recently.

davak
Jun 15, 2012, 09:07 PM
You forgot Do Not Disturb mode! Finally, all of us folks that use their iphone or ipad for an alarm clock can block all the interruptions.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/26949/ipad-iphone-do-not-disturb-mode/

WatchTheThrone
Jun 15, 2012, 09:10 PM
Good to use geofencing on your wife so if she comes within five miles of the house you can hurry the girlfriend out. This is awesome.

You sir win at the interwebs today

emwgradstudent
Jun 15, 2012, 09:14 PM
Image (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/15/ios-6s-smaller-changes-custom-email-alerts-find-my-friends-geofencing-and-more/)

- Turning Bluetooth on and off is much quicker (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/11/first_look_ios_6_settings_adds_do_not_disturb_quicker_bluetooth_access.html) than it was in iOS 5. Bluetooth controls are now located in first page of System Preferences, next to the Wi-Fi and Airplane Mode controls.

- Users no longer need to enter their password (http://www.cultofmac.com/173139/new-in-ios-6-passwords-no-longer-required-for-app-store-updates-previous-purchases/) to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.

- Newly downloaded apps gain a temporary 'New' banner (http://www.cultofmac.com/173126/new-in-ios-6-more-emoji-icons-banners-for-new-apps-badges-for-reminders-app/) on the icon to make them easier to pick them out.


These three features are great! Easy access to Bluetooth will certainly save time, the "New" banner is a nice touch, and not entering passwords for updates is great. The best though, not being taken to the home screen when an app begins to download. The App Store was very erratic about keeping my place in the App Store when I did that.

zync
Jun 15, 2012, 09:30 PM
Lol I was just gonna post this exact thing word for word. I guess someone doesn't have an iPad 3 ;)

No one has an iPad 3. :)

I can't believe they named the thing The New iPad.

You forgot Do Not Disturb mode! Finally, all of us folks that use their iphone or ipad for an alarm clock can block all the interruptions.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/26949/ipad-iphone-do-not-disturb-mode/

You could always do that. Mute it. Alarms will still go off with the phone muted. I always thought that was kind of brilliant.

What's nice about DnD mode is that you can have it automatically do it without having to touch it and allow certain people to call through.

kockgunner
Jun 15, 2012, 09:32 PM
I think one of my favorites new features is the fact that the ambient light sensor is continuously sensing the brightness of the environment, and it continually adjusts the brightness of the screen to reflect that.

Is the change gradual and how long between each poll? I'd hate having the screen brightness fluctuate like it sometimes does on my Macbook Pro when the sun is behind me and I move my head.

faroZ06
Jun 15, 2012, 10:03 PM
The lack of a Clock app on the iPad really ticked me off (I realized the pun after I chose that word). I'm glad that they added it again.

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Wouldn't it be great if Siri told me who was calling when the phone rings over my headphones?

That sounds great, but most of the people who call me have long, Armenian last names.

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How about adding groups in the contact list like in Mac OS? I want to just assign the same ringtone to all of my contacts, but I can't!

The reason I want to do this is because I want to make my phone have a whitelist where only people in my contacts can call me. My actual ringtone is a blank audio file.

Westacular
Jun 15, 2012, 10:06 PM
I'm pretty sure iOS already has IPv6 support (since iOS 4), I wonder if they are going to improve it to include privacy measures with iOS 6?

Yes, iOS has had IPv6 support since iOS 4. And iOS has supported the IPv6 privacy extensions since iOS 4.3.

In fact, prior to the release of Lion, support for IPv6 was actually better in iOS than in OS X. (Now, afaik, they're about even.)

So, this line about "IPv6 support for WiFi and LTE" is slightly baffling, because (for WiFi) it's been there for 2 years. It's only support for IPv6 on LTE that's been lacking -- a strange omission with the iPad 3 -- so, hey, that bit is new, and maybe people will finally stop accusing Apple of trying to sabotage IPv6 deployment.

stownsend3
Jun 15, 2012, 10:14 PM
It's exactly this lack of code control that can get you into trouble. It's not back and white but if the attitude is you can slip in what you feel like for small things it can grow and eventually people start slipping in something that's quite a bit more serious than a reflection.

New things like this are also additional burden on QA and potentially making a bit of software more resource hungry than it should be. For years Microsoft had the reputation for bloat. If you don't have a process to control what goes into your code or don't have a strong process bloat can happen.

My concern is the lack of real attention to big issue and a lot of attention to things that you and I will forget about after a few days.

Don't get me wrong I am all for "neat" stuff but this is a bit extreme. Look up a few post someone asked about why they didn't make a quick settings menu. Enough time to make a reflection that doesn't make your life easier with the device but not enough for an actually useful feature. It's a slippery slope that I hope they aren't really on.

You do realize that's only one very small piece of the 200 updates to iOS 6, right?

ghettochris
Jun 15, 2012, 10:23 PM
The lack of a Clock app on the iPad really ticked me off (I realized the pun after I chose that word). I'm glad that they added it again.

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That sounds great, but most of the people who call me have long, Armenian last names.

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How about adding groups in the contact list like in Mac OS? I want to just assign the same ringtone to all of my contacts, but I can't!

The reason I want to do this is because I want to make my phone have a whitelist where only people in my contacts can call me. My actual ringtone is a blank audio file.


First problem has easy solution-just give them american nicknames, hopefully siri just says the nickname if there is one.

faroZ06
Jun 15, 2012, 10:31 PM
First problem has easy solution-just give them american nicknames, hopefully siri just says the nickname if there is one.

Yeah, but then I have to mess up the names in all of my contacts. Still, I guess it's better to have Siri say the name rather than nothing.

CalCanuck
Jun 15, 2012, 10:40 PM
Can anyone tell me if they've added the option to cross-fade tracks in the music app. The iPod Nano has this feature so why not iOS. With all the Airplay speakers out there now it would be a welcome feature.

jtrenda33
Jun 15, 2012, 10:53 PM
I like this line that I found on the slide => "IPv6 support for Wi-Fi and LTE"

The LTE being the important thing to take note of. I think everyone already assumes that the next round of iDevices are going to include an LTE option (phones won't have an option). This is one of the first official documents that I've seen of Apple confirming LTE support in iOS.

This is great for me since AT&T has launched it's LTE network in my area and I've been off contract since August 2011. So I'm ready for an upgrade, but I'm holding off for the new iPhone.

doesn't the current iOS support LTE on the new iPad?

sclawis300
Jun 15, 2012, 11:01 PM
Does this mean find your friend actually works? I have never had it work, ever.

akbarali.ch
Jun 16, 2012, 12:07 AM
I love that metallic volume slider..very clever thinking.

Works4Me
Jun 16, 2012, 12:15 AM
Some things missing, true, and some of the things that have been announced are cool. But I really hope they fix the music app! It would be nice to be able to view a play list in the form of a list! (unless I'm missing something)....

Rogifan
Jun 16, 2012, 12:29 AM
- One of the most unnecessary additions to iOS 6 is also one of the most telling. Apple has made the metallic volume slider in the iPod app and elsewhere change its reflection as the iPhone is tilted -- as if it were actually reflecting light. While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail.
And yet Game Center remains an ugly monstrosity. :). I must say I'm not crazy about this obsession to make software look like hardware/physical object. Looks too contrived and seems a bit patronizing.

petsounds
Jun 16, 2012, 01:29 AM
"- Users no longer need to enter their password to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time. Additionally, users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store."

THANK YOU!!!!!

Especially since Apple made me change my password to a longer one recently.

I'm really happy about that also. Though I had been hoping for a bigger change with passwords, both with our Apple account passwords and the device passwords. People keep them short (and hence, insecure) because it's too tedious to type them again and again. I thought Apple might present something like facial recognition authentication, or perhaps voice matching using their Siri voice-processing tech.

Security is important to me, but so is convenience. I think most people would agree with that, as so much of our personal data and business data can be lost or stolen easily. I hope Apple takes a closer look at a solution to these problems at odds with each other.

kiljoy616
Jun 16, 2012, 02:10 AM
users aren't kicked to the home screen when buying or updating an app in the App Store.

Oh great Neptune finally this was the most annoying thing since the iPhone came out. :)

gkpm
Jun 16, 2012, 02:25 AM
So no one noticed that iCloud.com has the same changing reflection effects as the iOS6 Music player buttons, e.g. in the login box?

It's Apple's way of making for a consistent user experience.

nelmat
Jun 16, 2012, 02:26 AM
I'm not sure I would say there is a fanaticism to detail. This is more of a case of Apple doing something clever for the sake of being clever. Attention to detail would be if they noticed something was a pixel off and fixed it. Changing something that wasn't broken to something that has a "cool" effect is something but it's not attention to detail. Attention to detail would be fixing Bluetooth File Exchange, which still in 10.7.4, has not been fixed. It's an advertised feature of Lion, yet the entire UI was broken by the Lion update and has never been touched by Apple's hands as far as I can tell during the Snow Leopard to Lion transition. Attention to detail would be making fullscreen Pages mode actually fill the screen and give you a toolbar, rather than presenting a document letterboxed on all sides with no toolbar.

If anything, I think Apple's attention to detail has decreased over the last 5 years when it comes to software.


The Os Looks more refined and is more consistent now than at any time since 7.5 i use bluetooth file exchange daily between my imac and my samsung galaxy phone. Zero issue. What issues/bugs are u experiencing?

The slider reflection is a perfect example of attention to detail, what are you talking about? It's a minr detail which has recieved attention. What more do you need to forfil your definition?

Apple has always been about the little things done in a stylish way, it is their ethos and reflected throughout both operating systems.

Except the new apple tv interface, which sucks.

olowott
Jun 16, 2012, 02:49 AM
Staying in the App store after making a purchase, yaaaay!!!!


This is one of the Best Improvements made:D
So Happy to hear this

yetanotherdave
Jun 16, 2012, 03:18 AM
I love that you don't have to enter your password to download an update, but I wonder why you need to enter your password to re-download a previously purchased app?

First purchase of free apps I understand, you are linking an app to your accout, the free app may be temporarily free and you'll want access to it later, also there are apps you wouldn't necessarily want associated with your account (grindr, sex positions apps, karma sutra, 100+ crude jokes, fart apps etc etc)

faroZ06
Jun 16, 2012, 03:26 AM
Alarm with song? iOS has been laughed at for a long time because it couldn't do that. They're finally adding it!

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I love that you don't have to enter your password to download an update, but I wonder why you need to enter your password to re-download a previously purchased app?

First purchase of free apps I understand, you are linking an app to your accout, the free app may be temporarily free and you'll want access to it later, also there are apps you wouldn't necessarily want associated with your account (grindr, sex positions apps, karma sutra, 100+ crude jokes, fart apps etc etc)

I think free apps that are rated "G" (or whatever the lowest rating is) should not require the password.

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So no one noticed that iCloud.com has the same changing reflection effects as the iOS6 Music player buttons, e.g. in the login box?

It's Apple's way of making for a consistent user experience.

It's interesting because the seem to be basing all of their designs off of the PowerMac G5.

MisterK
Jun 16, 2012, 03:29 AM
Let's not confuse progression with trying to go bullet-for-bullet with Android features. They are going to do a lot of stupid stuff that Apple shouldn't copy (as well as doing a lot of clever stuff that Apple should copy, to be sure). I don't understand the preoccupation with having weather on your lock screen, for instance... Most of us aren't farmers. Is it really the most important thing to have up front? Let's hope Apple is thinking about the benefits before they just implement the easiest thing. If you put this on the home screen, that means customers will expect it there and it precludes you from putting something else, more useful there instead. Now I hope they do keep making slow and steady additions to the OS, and maybe there is something better they can do with the lock screen, but don't ask them to rush it if the Android idea is less than perfect. If we had gotten cut and paste right away then we may have been stuck with a lesser implementation (Android) that would have been with us even now. Most normal people aren't so into their gadgets that you can change system behaviors all the time. Apple's end goal, I believe, is to be the stable rock that makes sense. Their marketing stays the same for long periods of time; their OS looks similar for a long period of time; heck, even Jobs' outfit stayed the same for a long time... It's creating a mythos of dependability, and looking over a long period of time they appear more stable – more sure of their footing. Not frantic, changing half-baked features like their competitors.

There are changes I could go for. Ones that really do seem inevitable. I'd love live icons; now that would be a real great improvement. Maybe the weather icon could just show the weather on it. I really don't care that much about the weather. It's sunny out the window and it's June. Safe to say it's warm and it's not far if I want to check it. There's a lot Apple can do to display more information to the user... Maybe they can have a different display of the home screen when you turn your device horizontally. Maybe there's a smarter way for me to control brightness on my iPhone. That's really the only thing I need to return to settings for all the time right now. But I don't know if an icon on the lock screen is the answer. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not.

faroZ06
Jun 16, 2012, 03:33 AM
Android doesn't play as well with my iPad and MBP (as my iPhone). Plus, I'm so ingrained into iTunes at this point I feel a bit stuck with Apple. I love Apple hardware and software, but when it comes to things as described above they are really frustrating. They literally and intentionally hold back features, "just because." If they would only be more responsive to feature updates I would have few complaints. In that sense Android is far ahead.

Same here. Android offers a few advantages because it's made by a company that does not also sell media and the fact that it's a minority (being the majority means being herded), but it just sucks overall. Apple is one of the few great companies that actually makes their products work well with each other and doesn't pump out thousands of different models.

Also, Android is slow and fragmented. It's not a carefully-made platform.

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Let's not confuse progression with trying to go bullet-for-bullet with Android features. They are going to do a lot of stupid stuff that Apple shouldn't copy (as well as doing a lot of clever stuff that Apple should copy, to be sure). I don't understand the preoccupation with having weather on your lock screen, for instance... Most of us aren't farmers. Is it really the most important thing to have up front? Let's hope Apple is thinking about the benefits before they just implement the easiest thing. If you put this on the home screen, that means customers will expect it there and it precludes you from putting something else, more useful there instead. Now I hope they do keep making slow and steady additions to the OS, and maybe there is something better they can do with the lock screen, but don't ask them to rush it if the Android idea is less than perfect. If we had gotten cut and paste right away then we may have been stuck with a lesser implementation (Android) that would have been with us even now. Most normal people aren't so into their gadgets that you can change system behaviors all the time. Apple's end goal, I believe, is to be the stable rock that makes sense. Their marketing stays the same for long periods of time; their OS looks similar for a long period of time; heck, even Jobs' outfit stayed the same for a long time... It's creating a mythos of dependability, and looking over a long period of time they appear more stable – more sure of their footing. Not frantic, changing half-baked features like their competitors.

There are changes I could go for. Ones that really do seem inevitable. I'd love live icons; now that would be a real great improvement. Maybe the weather icon could just show the weather on it. I really don't care that much about the weather. It's sunny out the window and it's June. Safe to say it's warm and it's not far if I want to check it. There's a lot Apple can do to display more information to the user... Maybe they can have a different display of the home screen when you turn your device horizontally. Maybe there's a smarter way for me to control brightness on my iPhone. That's really the only thing I need to return to settings for all the time right now. But I don't know if an icon on the lock screen is the answer. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not.

Apple is going a bit slow, and they're doing it on purpose. Remember how the iPhones 1&2 could not take video? Um, my Motorola Razr (not the Droid one, the flip phone) could do that easily. The one flaw in iOS is that Apple likes to roll out some of these things slowly so they can always have fuel for attention.

It makes money, but it's a bit annoying for us. Fortunately, they seem to have already released everything I could need. A user agent faker in Safari in dev mode would be nice, and I already have one installed from Cydia.

steve-p
Jun 16, 2012, 03:45 AM
That geofencing sounds a bit creepy. Good to know Apple are adding features for the stalker inclined though. Or I suppose it could be useful if you are having an affair as it could tell you when the wife left work :)

ZebraineZ
Jun 16, 2012, 04:25 AM
You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.

Cut/paste took forever
Custom mail sigs JUST arrived
Remember black wallpapers?
SBS settings sliders in notification center STILL not here
Weather on my lockscreen? A ridiculous thought!
Contact pics in the contact list and in messages app? Nope.

Wow, look at that attention to detail. How many other nobrainer features should have been included years ago? But right, Apple thank you for adding a shiny metallic slider. Brilliant.

Is this notification center and lock screen that difficult?

Legit complaints but I just wanted to chime in that I actually prefer that I Apple waited to release cut and paste. Why? Because every variation on mobile devices for it sucked. And guess what, not to blame Google or anything, but they took twice as long to implement a similar variation to Apple's in Gingerbread. And even then, the variation itself was made within the jailbreak community and released early on in iOS 2.0, so Apple in fact copied and refined that.

As a consumer we win either way obviously but just trying to say that good things take time to make, but I do agree that there are still VERY simple yet elegant things already released within the jailbreak community especially that Apple should at least take cues from. Jailbreaking is the only thing imo that adds value to the ecosystem and if Apple were to just integrate it all in an Apple-esque way I swear the userbase would double in a heartbeat. And from that, the jailbreak community will still evolve because they'll have to think outside the box when they come up with new things which yet again Apple will still repackage...either way as a consumer I'd still prefer Apple's way of doing things...when they actually do them.

johngordon
Jun 16, 2012, 04:26 AM
Call me easy to please, but one change I'd really like to see in iOS6 is the ability to set due dates in Reminders.

If I have something due, I don't want to be reminded when its due, I want to be reminded in advance of its being due, so that I then have time to do it. It was a big omission from 5.0, and really thought it would be fixed in 5.1.

The weird thing is that you can spoof it through some convoluted method involving setting an alert in iCal, which then does force Reminders to display both a reminder date and a due date. So the functionality is in there somewhere.

Basically there are a load of inconsistencies the way everything works in iCal, Calendar and Reminders.

There's an excellent thread on the Apple forums explaining exactly what is wrong:

https://discussions.apple.com/message/16411799#16411799

Would really love it if they can sort all of this out.

drwebber
Jun 16, 2012, 06:53 AM
This is great for everybody who has purchased new cars in the last year that allow text message via voice and such. Probably not that big of a deal with Siri available, but still pretty sweet for people with a iPhone 4.

tdmac
Jun 16, 2012, 07:36 AM
Except the new apple tv interface, which sucks.

I actually just upgraded and I agree. However, after seeing all the threads about the possibility of an ATV SDK, prior to WWDC, the look now sort of makes sense. Especially when you scroll down and see all the individual buttons for MLB, YouTube,etc resemble Apps in iOS. Looks like they are warming people up to that view or starting to refine it for that direction.

mazz0
Jun 16, 2012, 07:43 AM
Read the last line on Macrumors article, it's under the pic where no one ever looks, I only found it on a second look lol.

I can't find anything about shadows - I even did a Find on Page. We're not talking about the reflections on the volume slider are we?

TheStoof
Jun 16, 2012, 07:45 AM
I love my iPhone, but it's really frustrating that I can't modify the things that I want without the need to jailbreak.

Messages App:

can't send voice memo directly
can't switch to list mode
can't switch to box mode (layout, same as above)
photos/voice memos do NOT compress before sending (RIM does a GREAT job at this)
****** timestamps
No unified messages box like RIM; why the hell do I have to go to five different apps to see everything? grrr.

jonnysods
Jun 16, 2012, 08:08 AM
I've been using ios6 for almost a week now, and I have to say that it's a solid update and I love the new UI changes. Still has a few things I could see added.

I wonder if they will add last minute stuff to the iPhone 5 like they did with the 4S?

Piggie
Jun 16, 2012, 08:25 AM
i'm not in the market for an iPad at the moment, but if i ever get one i would love to have the presence of a guest account.

the iPad sure would be left on the coffee table for everyone else to be used, but i wouldn't want anyone to have access to my personal stuff like pictures and messages and such.

Yes, User Accounts, which is kind of what you have been asking for have been wanted my many since the launch of the 1st iPad, but Apple are not going to do it.

They want you to buy an iPad for every member of your family, not buy just one and share it.

Again, this shows it's not like a proper computer we have at home where we have accounts and privacy, it's more like an iPod or iPhone where it's just your one personal device, no-one else is supposed to use.

OrangeSVTguy
Jun 16, 2012, 09:09 AM
A buddy just jailbroken his iPhone 4 on iOS 6 and got Siri working. I can't wait to get the new Maps.

gwelmarten
Jun 16, 2012, 09:15 AM
Does anybody know if the Global Network Proxy for HTTP is something that can be locked on enterprise devices to prevent people changing the proxy on different networks and cellular etc?

Dangerous Theory
Jun 16, 2012, 09:17 AM
I'm still waiting for background process indicators.

Essentially, if an app is actively navigating (Like maps or Navigon) it gets a little circle icon (Like the notification number in the top right) in the top left with the navigation arrow. Likewise they could add ones for general background processing (a gear), background downloads (a spinning activity indicator?), music (a quarter note) and any of the other "active" background modes.

This would help immensely to help users distinguish apps that are actively using resources in the background versus ones that just have a saved state. Also there are still many apps that don't implement background downloads, and so when I leave the app during a download the only way to tell if it is continuing is by opening the app and checking if the progress bar has moved.

what's wrong with the universally known play symbol for music that's been there forever?

bedifferent
Jun 16, 2012, 09:22 AM
In 2006 Apple had a feature in "iChat" called "Answering Machine". This allowed the user to leave a video or audio away message, and for the users' friends to leave one in return. This was before the iPhone, when it was merely a rumor, so many developers were curious as to what Apple intended (this was when OS X had bi-weekly DMG's that required burning to a DVD and a fresh install per OS X beta, thus enabling a cleaner debugging system).

Needless to state, it never made the light of day. Presently, with so many FaceTime enabled mobile devices and the Messages app, "Answering Machine" would be a great feature. I know of a few deaf individuals who would benefit greatly by the ability to leave a video message.

First mention (2006, "Leopard" beta's):

Leopard iChat Answering Machine (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/12/13/leopard-ichat-answering-machine/):

The new iChat answering preference tab allows users to record a Video greeting to serve as an answering message when users are away from their desk. The caller may then leave a message. At this time, there only appears to be partial functionality implemented.

The ability to record video-clips has previously been suggested as a tie in to the iPhone to provide a "call ahead" feature.

Second mention (2008, "Snow Leopard" days):

Apple Still Pursuing iChat 'Answering Machine' Technology? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/09/apple-still-pursuing-ichat-answering-machine-technology/)

A patent application published today reveals that Apple may still be working on a video "answering machine" technology for inclusion with iChat. The technology made a brief partial appearance in early OS X Leopard developer seeds in December 2006, but was omitted from the finished product.

I've written a thread a while back that gained interest, enough that some wrote Apple to include this as a possible feature for Messages/FaceTime in OS X and iOS. I think this would be a fantastic idea, and strongly recommend that those who agree do the same. Have a great weekend everyone!

Apple Feedback (http://www.apple.com/feedback/)

manu chao
Jun 16, 2012, 09:55 AM
While these are all welcomed additions, can't help but to be disappointed by the improvements that weren't made.

- Multitask switching would greatly benefit from an Expose style switcher (especially on iPad).

I feel that on the iPad, the multi-touch gestures to invoke the multi-tasking bar or to switch between apps are fairly good already. On the iPhone, the double-click is much more annoying.

mjtomlin
Jun 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
I'm not sure I would say there is a fanaticism to detail. This is more of a case of Apple doing something clever for the sake of being clever. Attention to detail would be if they noticed something was a pixel off and fixed it. Changing something that wasn't broken to something that has a "cool" effect is something but it's not attention to detail. Attention to detail would be fixing Bluetooth File Exchange, which still in 10.7.4, has not been fixed. It's an advertised feature of Lion, yet the entire UI was broken by the Lion update and has never been touched by Apple's hands as far as I can tell during the Snow Leopard to Lion transition. Attention to detail would be making fullscreen Pages mode actually fill the screen and give you a toolbar, rather than presenting a document letterboxed on all sides with no toolbar.

If anything, I think Apple's attention to detail has decreased over the last 5 years when it comes to software.

I'd have to argue with you here... It is much easier to find faults than it will ever be to find these types details. Noticing something that interferes with your workflow is much more jarring than a detail like the reflective light mentioned above.

Apple's software is not perfect and never has been. There may be a few more things missing or not fixed, but Apple's breadth of software has grown over the years, so this is bound to happen. There are going to be more things that might seem unfixed or not completely fleshed out, but to say that their attention to detail has decreased is false.

The beauty of Apple products is the details that make them a pleasure to use, because they aren't directly noticeable, meaning they don't get in the way of normal functionality. Superfluous, sure, but a nuisance, not at all. I think the scope of Apple's software today doesn't allow us to notice all the little things as we did before. And it's much easier to find faults because they are more "in your face."

mjtomlin
Jun 16, 2012, 10:12 AM
Is there any news of whether apple will support mass transit directions again? It's very odd they don't even mention it.

Usually apple drops legacy technology but with this map update there is nothing but legacy transit (automobile) options :mad:

Apple stated they are going to leave the details to 3rd parties to add to Maps. This makes Apple's mapping solution a little lacking at first, but very powerful in the end. Making it an open platform for location information allows a multitude of information to be presented within a map.

Think of downloading a map for an amusement park, national park, bus stops/schedules, points of interests, tourist spots, etc. The possibilities are endless, but there will need to be a build up... we have a few more months before it goes live, wait and see before you get bent out of shape.

manu chao
Jun 16, 2012, 10:45 AM
Apple stated they are going to leave the details to 3rd parties to add to Maps. This makes Apple's mapping solution a little lacking at first, but very powerful in the end. Making it an open platform for location information allows a multitude of information to be presented within a map.

Think of downloading a map for an amusement park, national park, bus stops/schedules, points of interests, tourist spots, etc. The possibilities are endless, but there will need to be a build up... we have a few more months before it goes live, wait and see before you get bent out of shape.

I sure do hope that Google will release their own Maps app for iOS, I would hate to loose walking directions in cities.

jclardy
Jun 16, 2012, 11:27 AM
what's wrong with the universally known play symbol for music that's been there forever?

Yes that would work (And there is the icon in the status bar, but this is more for knowing which applications are being used.)

The main reason I would want it is to know when I am switching off wifi when something is background downloading or when I am low on battery and an app is doing some unnecessary processing in the background.

ChrisTX
Jun 16, 2012, 11:44 AM
Staying in the App store after making a purchase, yaaaay!!!!

So you can make even more purchases! :p

marcusj0015
Jun 16, 2012, 12:52 PM
I can't find anything about shadows - I even did a Find on Page. We're not talking about the reflections on the volume slider are we?

The last video in the macrumors news posts is all about the shadows. Yes, that's exactly what were talking about. lol

MacAddict1978
Jun 16, 2012, 01:06 PM
I like this line that I found on the slide => "IPv6 support for Wi-Fi and LTE"

The LTE being the important thing to take note of. I think everyone already assumes that the next round of iDevices are going to include an LTE option (phones won't have an option). This is one of the first official documents that I've seen of Apple confirming LTE support in iOS.

This is great for me since AT&T has launched it's LTE network in my area and I've been off contract since August 2011. So I'm ready for an upgrade, but I'm holding off for the new iPhone.

It just sucks that AT&T is so stingy with their data plans!!! LTE is great.... but um, it makes it so much easier and attractive to use your data... and go over.

I really wish ATT and Verizon would double their data allotments... but as long as people flock to them, they won't because they have no need to be competitive. For now.

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I sure do hope that Google will release their own Maps app for iOS, I would hate to loose walking directions in cities.

When they debuted their new maps last week, they announced they were going to develop an app for all platforms (ios, WP7-8, etc) so no need to fear.

They totally knew far in advance they were getting dropped from native support in IOS. Will probably be available before IOS 6 is.

I despise the Google Maps app in IOS, but the walking directions was a great feature I used a lot when traveling.

saggyhaggis
Jun 16, 2012, 01:09 PM
Has anyone tested iOS6's performance in a 3GS, is it usable or is it even slower than iOS5?

It's almost identical to iOS 5 with the exception of opening message notifications from the lock screen. A small number of apps either wont load or punt you back to the home screen.

One thing that does annoy is my battery seems to drain much faster though. I don't know if iOS 5 did this but when you wake the screen the gps compass pops up and this won't help the battery much. :confused:

MacAddict1978
Jun 16, 2012, 01:13 PM
Mass transit directions would be great. The problem is likely that mass transit authorities don't provide up to date route or schedule information in a way that the app could use it reliably. With that info it would be an absolutely fantastic feature.

However, calling automobile navigation "legacy" technology is pretty dense.

Outside of bigger cities, mass transit barely exists, especially in the US. Eliminating directions for people with cars would be the stupidest thing I could possibly imagine doing with a maps/navigation app.

Hmm. All Mass Transit has this information online. Some agencies even make it accessible in a way that would work with an app. When you think about it, how many major metro areas are there in the US? One person could manage this information manually fairly easily for transit companies that don't feed this info.

There are already several apps that do a good job with transit schedules, and ways developers can tap into transit databases.

MOST mass transit has GPS enabled on their buses and the like to let dispatch monitor where they are, delays, etc. Even that info could eventually be used with third parties for an app letting someone know eta's and such, while merging traffic info in their too.

http://www.portauthority.org/paac/RiderServices/GoMobile.aspx

gmcalpin
Jun 16, 2012, 01:17 PM
Waste of engineering resources? It's art, it is what separates Apple from all others. ESPECIALLY ANDROID, the touch and use experience of every android phone I've ever touched is so bad it drives me insane. The worst is that choppy scrolling!!!
And it probably took one kind of OCD engineer to do it, over his lunch hour. What's to complain about?!

Aidan5806
Jun 16, 2012, 01:17 PM
I know someone has probably already said this, but the new store layouts are really cool. I remember thinking in march that the nicest upgrade to the new :apple:tv other that 1080p was the new stores. Now these stores are universal and I love it.

bushido
Jun 16, 2012, 01:53 PM
could apple please make up their mind about what UI color they want?

black, silver, blue its all over the place

gaximus
Jun 16, 2012, 02:05 PM
To bad these are hardware restrictions, now I really feel like I need to upgrade from my iPad 1...oh wait? I rather not but any iPad again because I will probably get screwed over again by Apple.

I know how you feel. 8 years ago I bought a car, it was top of the line, the most expensive model, it had everything, heated leather seats, power sun roof. And After I bought it, the very next year. The manufacturer added GPS to the exact same model for the same price. I tried to go have it installed by them, but they said it would cost $2000 to have it installed. They screwed me over bad. Since then I've never bought a new car, so I know exactly what I'm not getting.

My suggestion for you to not get screwed over by apple is to wait until the 2013 iPad comes out, then buy the 2012 model, and you'll know what you're not getting, and never plan on updating your OS. That way you won't get that "I'm getting screwed over feeling"

vartanarsen
Jun 16, 2012, 02:16 PM
I'm still waiting for background process indicators.

Essentially, if an app is actively navigating (Like maps or Navigon) it gets a little circle icon (Like the notification number in the top right) in the top left with the navigation arrow. Likewise they could add ones for general background processing (a gear), background downloads (a spinning activity indicator?), music (a quarter note) and any of the other "active" background modes.

This would help immensely to help users distinguish apps that are actively using resources in the background versus ones that just have a saved state. Also there are still many apps that don't implement background downloads, and so when I leave the app during a download the only way to tell if it is continuing is by opening the app and checking if the progress bar has moved.

Download Backgrounder and Remove Background.
Remove Background will close ALL multitasking tray items in one fell swoop.
Backgrounder will terminate processes of any app when minimized...clse an app...and the process is terminated....
With these 2 items, you wont need process indicators.

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Download Backgrounder and Remove Background.
Remove Background will close ALL multitasking tray items in one fell swoop.
Backgrounder will terminate processes of any app when minimized...clse an app...and the process is terminated....
With these 2 items, you wont need process indicators.

Also, my battery life is so sweet with Backgrounder terminating processes. Its so funny when people say JBing slows down your system and eats your battery....quite the contrary when you have the right Cydia apps installed..these will immensely prolongue your battery and make your system faster...

tekno
Jun 16, 2012, 03:00 PM
- Users can now set custom email alerts...


Yay! At LONG last! Apple have finally allowed us to customise mail tones!


...for any of their VIP contacts.


Oh. But only to a point.

SimianSquared
Jun 16, 2012, 03:06 PM
elsewhere change its reflection (http://gizmodo.com/5917967/you-wont-believe-how-insane-this-tiny-new-detail-in-ios-6-is) as the iPhone is tilted -- as if it were actually reflecting light. While some may say it's a waste of engineering resources, this shows Apple's incredible attention to detail.

This is a plug but it's relevant :): Our last app, Physynth, released in december uses tilt in a similar way that you might want to check it out :)
Screenshot (http://physynth.com/teaser-01.jpg)
link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/physynth/id469924626?mt=8

milo
Jun 16, 2012, 03:23 PM
I am still waiting for a MAJOR revamp of the horrid, atrocious, ridiculous iPad Music app...any news on that?

Don't believe it? Check this link:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20122563-37/how-apple-screwed-up-the-ipad-music-app-with-ios-5/

Amen to that. Frankly, it's shocking they shipped something so bad instead of just sticking with the old app until they could get the new one to a usable state.


Any changes to the terrible music app on the iPad? Including the displaying embedded lyrics once again? That's really the ONLY thing I want from iOS 6.

Agreed here as well, it's pretty unbelievable they broke lyrics and haven't fixed them yet. Especially since they still work on iPhone.

GuyCalledPete
Jun 16, 2012, 03:33 PM
Mass transit directions would be great. The problem is likely that mass transit authorities don't provide up to date route or schedule information in a way that the app could use it reliably. With that info it would be an absolutely fantastic feature.
Google maps on iOS5 has it now, and it works great in Brussels - I love using it to find bus/tram routes, and it has often suggested routes using connections that I would never have known about or considered, saving me a lot of time.

If it's missing in iOS6 then I'll be severely disappointed.

-- Pete.

chrf097
Jun 16, 2012, 03:57 PM
Has anyone tested iOS6's performance in a 3GS, is it usable or is it even slower than iOS5?

It works pretty well. Not a major drop in speed. Better than iOS 5.

Or probably because IPv4 is on its way out, and IPv6 is going to be the future.

Not for a looooong time buddy.

So no one noticed that iCloud.com has the same changing reflection effects as the iOS6 Music player buttons, e.g. in the login box?

It's Apple's way of making for a consistent user experience.

I did notice this. Now if only we could make it turn when I turned my laptop...

BenManchester
Jun 16, 2012, 04:06 PM
Oh yes! French dictionary & per account mail signature. :D

faroZ06
Jun 16, 2012, 04:09 PM
I am still waiting for a MAJOR revamp of the horrid, atrocious, ridiculous iPad Music app...any news on that?

Don't believe it? Check this link:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20122563-37/how-apple-screwed-up-the-ipad-music-app-with-ios-5/


That looks horrible. I really hate it when companies try to fix something that's already perfect.

YouTube's new layout really destroyed my interest in my YouTube channel. AIM's new layout on iOS has made me switch to IM+, which can use AIM. Verizon decided to "revamp" their remote app on iOS, and now it hardly works. Apple utterly ruined iMovie HD in 2008, making me stick to the 2006 version. I've heard bad stories about Final Cut Pro X. And worst of all........ Windows Vista........ :eek::eek::eek::eek: (OK XP was far from perfect, but Vista makes it look perfect)

50548
Jun 16, 2012, 05:29 PM
Amen to that. Frankly, it's shocking they shipped something so bad instead of just sticking with the old app until they could get the new one to a usable state.

Agreed here as well, it's pretty unbelievable they broke lyrics and haven't fixed them yet. Especially since they still work on iPhone.

My main concern is whether the engineers/designers at Apple are even noticing that or prioritizing such a revamp. I just can't believe how bad that app is, even if just to play a DAMN list of songs without any playlists!

Riptide62
Jun 16, 2012, 06:05 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Siri told me who was calling when the phone rings over my headphones?

A nokia phone I had 6 years ago could do this

emwgradstudent
Jun 16, 2012, 06:37 PM
Is the YouTube app still included? The YouTube app is crap and it is faster and simpler to use Safari.

Shoot
Jun 16, 2012, 06:59 PM
This is a plug but it's relevant :): Our last app, Physynth, released in december uses tilt in a similar way that you might want to check it out :)
Screenshot (http://physynth.com/teaser-01.jpg)
link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/physynth/id469924626?mt=8

yeah I downloaded that in february. i love the new circuit drums!!

iamPro
Jun 16, 2012, 08:44 PM
I do appreciate many of the neat little features of ios6 but what's bugging me the most is Apple realizing the need and moving the bluetooth menu out in the front and top of the settings app, but not taking the extra simple step of actually letting the user toggle it without having to tap and go in the bluetooth menu (like airplane mode). It still requires 3 three taps.

Please just add it to the notifications bar or left of the music player in the multitasking window.

Or even, let us customize (pin) which toggles to be displayed at the top of the settings menu.

ZZ Bottom
Jun 16, 2012, 11:38 PM
I feel that on the iPad, the multi-touch gestures to invoke the multi-tasking bar or to switch between apps are fairly good already. On the iPhone, the double-click is much more annoying.

Agreed, but I wasn't meaning that Apple needs to change the 4-finger swipe. Instead they just need something easier to work with instead of the "multi-task bar" that appears at bottom when you swipe up.

Essentially I am picturing something more functional like WebOS cards when you swipe up. My other point was that Apple is using swipe down from top for notifications, so there's no reason they can't use swipe up from bottom for something productive.

vartanarsen
Jun 17, 2012, 12:27 AM
Agreed, but I wasn't meaning that Apple needs to change the 4-finger swipe. Instead they just need something easier to work with instead of the "multi-task bar" that appears at bottom when you swipe up.

Essentially I am picturing something more functional like WebOS cards when you swipe up. My other point was that Apple is using swipe down from top for notifications, so there's no reason they can't use swipe up from bottom for something productive.

Zephyr does 1 finger swipe up for the tray. Everytime some here is complaining about a lack of feature, i'm responding with a Cydia solution!! Lol....seriosly guys, just jb already

onthecouchagain
Jun 17, 2012, 12:40 AM
But is the keyboard any better?! :O

snowleopard13
Jun 17, 2012, 04:40 AM
after trying out iOS 6 on the iPad, i have to say i'm pretty disappointed by the update.

why? because there is not a single ground breaking new thing in it. they just sorted out some bugs and added a few little tweaks that should have been there in the first place (i.e. the appstore password thing, clock app on the iPad)

when i bought the new iPad and used it for a while, i started to love the hardware changes (retina display, speed, camera) and thought they finally have the device to really change iOS to something new and improved (i.e use the screen real estate better).

4 things that they should have included in iOS 6:
+ new lockscreen (it's ugly and still the same as in 2006)
+ user changeable icon size (while the current state makes sense for older people, for me they are way too big)
+ customizable notificationcenter (switches, widgets,...)
+ change the position of the cursor by swiping right to left to right over the keyboard and mark text by swiping from the shift button.

now comes the amazing part: all these tweaks are available if you jailbreak. so it could have been no problem at all for apple to implement them :rolleyes:

jfc123
Jun 17, 2012, 05:22 AM
I want to be able to add a custom signature to my text messages and iMessages like in mail.

mazz0
Jun 17, 2012, 06:57 AM
The last video in the macrumors news posts is all about the shadows. Yes, that's exactly what were talking about. lol

Oh, right. What's that got to do with time of day?

marcusj0015
Jun 17, 2012, 07:29 AM
Oh, right. What's that got to do with time of day?

... -_- It's similar to Apple's patent on moving the shadows on screen based on the suns position...

charlituna
Jun 17, 2012, 09:10 AM
- Users no longer need to enter their password (http://www.cultofmac.com/173139/new-in-ios-6-passwords-no-longer-required-for-app-store-updates-previous-purchases/) to update apps -- only when purchasing an app for the first time.

Then I hope they fixed the bug that makes the system forget the Apple ID used for downloaded Apps so none of them open. Downloading updates and having to put in my password has been the only thing that fixed it. That or downloading an app, but I really don't want to have go find a free app etc

charlituna
Jun 17, 2012, 09:37 AM
. Remember this is a company that didn't update java while there was a security issue and clear text logged people's password for secure volumes. Something's wrong when a company doesn't have time to check for serious security issues but spend effort on adding animated reflection to a god damn button.

remember this is the company that has dozens, if not hundreds, of folks broken into several departments and the folks that work on Mac OS are the same as the ones working on iOS.

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It's exactly this lack of code control that can get you into trouble. It's not back and white but if the attitude is you can slip in what you feel like for small things it can grow and eventually people start slipping in something that's quite a bit more serious than a reflection.



Well I'm sure when you designed your own OS etc, this kind of thing will never happen.

We don't know how this little thing came to be but clearly Apple is bugged about it. If it bothers you that much, go switch to something else. I'm sure Apple will make enough sales that losing you. Even a thousand yous won't really hurt their bottom line or their feelings

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You guys tout Apple's attention to detail, but totally disregard when they withhold features for no freaking reason except to withhold features.



Are you an expert at coding iOS, or even just Cocoa. Is that how you KNOW that there was no reason held back anything. After all, as an expert, you know that these are all child's play features to add.

John.B
Jun 17, 2012, 09:52 AM
Have to mention the addition of per account email signatures. Been clamoring for this for a long time.

This. In spades.

I have been requesting this since the day after I bought my 3GS. Glad to see this finally addressed, even if it did take far too long to implement.

Digitalclips
Jun 17, 2012, 09:54 AM
The bold is all you need to know.

We have all been to restaurants where the food is presented like art that tastes like you are literally eating a painting. While the hole in the wall with great food and mismatched furniture can be so busy during meals it's crazy.

I don't care for this sort of thing being called "attention to detail". There's a better term for it and it's shorten to OCD. Remember this is a company that didn't update java while there was a security issue and clear text logged people's password for secure volumes. Something's wrong when a company doesn't have time to check for serious security issues but spend effort on adding animated reflection to a god damn button.

Perhaps the folks that did this work in a totally different area of the OS from those responsible for the problems you mention. Stopping them wouldn't necessarily have made the other happen.

bedifferent
Jun 17, 2012, 10:29 AM
could apple please make up their mind about what UI color they want?

black, silver, blue its all over the place

Agreed. I haven't examined it enough, but do the various colors indicate anything pertinent (such as blue relates to X category, black is Y, etc.)?

jackc
Jun 17, 2012, 11:16 AM
Everyone fell for the gimmick of "attention to detail." All they had to do was tell one website about it, then they'd run a story about how amazing it is.

ramuman
Jun 17, 2012, 12:04 PM
Since the original iPhone, I've wanted an option to sense when the phone is docked or charging and go from silent to audible. My very first Samsung cell phone in 1999 could do this. My phone is always on silent, but it's also my only phone and I'd love to have it behave like a normal phone when I'm at home.

...that and the weather app showing the current weather in it's icon.

I also agree about the crappy UI coherency, but that's been the case for a long time in the OS X days. iTunes and Safari have been terribly inconsistent over the years.

CyBeRino
Jun 17, 2012, 12:53 PM
No one has an iPad 3. :)

I can't believe they named the thing The New iPad.




They didn't name it "the new iPad". They named it simply "iPad".


And then in their marketing materials they consistently made the mistake of calling it "the new iPad", so now everyone thinks that's what it's called. In their technical and support documentation, they differenciate between it and the original iPad by saying "iPad (3rd generation)".

London Lad
Jun 17, 2012, 01:44 PM
I'd happily sacrifice all of these features just to get a proper rSAP bluetooth profile so it could take advantage of the full power car phones in most upmarket cars nowadays. It is a phone after all :)

Mr. Gates
Jun 17, 2012, 02:56 PM
I want the ability to "add to favorites" from the iPod App directly from what is "now playing" when on shuffle.

It would help so much

slimbek
Jun 17, 2012, 07:41 PM
I saw on the Apple site that you can now attach Photos & Video from within an email!

This is huge!
Is no-one but me is excited by this? I hate typing up an email and then realizing I have to copy/paste the whole thing after I start again from the Photos app.

faroZ06
Jun 17, 2012, 08:20 PM
Zephyr does 1 finger swipe up for the tray. Everytime some here is complaining about a lack of feature, i'm responding with a Cydia solution!! Lol....seriosly guys, just jb already

Doesn't jailbreaking slow it down, especially when you install that stuff? When I jailbroke, it forced me to install some garbage like MySQL and whatever, and now I feel like my iPhone is a little bit slower.

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I saw on the Apple site that you can now attach Photos & Video from within an email!

This is huge!
Is no-one but me is excited by this? I hate typing up an email and then realizing I have to copy/paste the whole thing after I start again from the Photos app.

That's nice. It was a problem for me once so far, but it was annoying. I rarely attach items on iOS anyway unless I just took a picture and want to send it, and the photo browser has a "share" button.

Starship77
Jun 17, 2012, 10:24 PM
I saw on the Apple site that you can now attach Photos & Video from within an email!

This is huge!
Is no-one but me is excited by this? I hate typing up an email and then realizing I have to copy/paste the whole thing after I start again from the Photos app.

It's not really huge actually… You can do this right now and it's not that complicated:

1 - Go to the Mail app and start typing your email.

2 - Go to the photos app and tap and hold any thumbnail or photo.

3 - Go back to mail app, tap wherever you want in the text and select "Paste"

Voila!:eek: ;) :cool:

kockgunner
Jun 17, 2012, 11:37 PM
I saw on the Apple site that you can now attach Photos & Video from within an email!

This is huge!
Is no-one but me is excited by this? I hate typing up an email and then realizing I have to copy/paste the whole thing after I start again from the Photos app.

I'm really excited too. It was disappointing to tell my mom that you can't attach more images once you are composing an email already. However, I wish in the iPad version at least that they will add a separate button instead of hiding everything in that tiny contextual menu.

To the post above: It's not possible to follow your steps if the email is composed from the share button in the photos app. Also, that method only allows you to paste one picture at a time.

verniesgarden
Jun 17, 2012, 11:48 PM
I saw on the Apple site that you can now attach Photos & Video from within an email!

This is huge!
Is no-one but me is excited by this? I hate typing up an email and then realizing I have to copy/paste the whole thing after I start again from the Photos app.

I won't complain about finally having the feature, but I do feel like it could of been better implemented; it's a bit clunky in my opinion.

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I want to be able to add a custom signature to my text messages and iMessages like in mail.

why????! don't you know it's annoying to the person receiving to have every message with a signature?

Mr. Gates
Jun 18, 2012, 12:03 AM
It's not really huge actually… You can do this right now and it's not that complicated:

1 - Go to the Mail app and start typing your email.

2 - Go to the photos app and tap and hold any thumbnail or photo.

3 - Go back to mail app, tap wherever you want in the text and select "Paste"

Voila!:eek: ;) :cool:

Or hit the Arrow and select all photos (up to 5) that you want to copy ,...and then go back to the mail app and past em'

lemoncrsh
Jun 18, 2012, 12:39 AM
:mad:

Calle68
Jun 18, 2012, 06:51 AM
This is not a major release. Even the update to Maps means only to Apple.
My wishlist is:
- Landscape functionality extended to all the Apple applications, with particular reference to the Phone app (which needs a refresh), and to the home screen.
- Bluetooth, Hotspot, wi-fi activations from the notification windows.
- A better Music app on the iPhone (long titles support, car mode etc. etc.).
- A Music app on the iPad (although the one installed by Apple is a way to listen to music in 2012 ...)
- An improved vocal interface, extended at least down to the Iphone4 and iPad2, which does not require an internet connection.

mms13
Jun 18, 2012, 07:51 AM
Find My Friends geofence alerts = allow your friends to drain your battery

shk718
Jun 18, 2012, 08:53 AM
apple always holds announcements until they introduce the new phone. SIRI wasn't announced at WWDC - it was announced when they introduced the 4S.

after trying out iOS 6 on the iPad, i have to say i'm pretty disappointed by the update.

why? because there is not a single ground breaking new thing in it. they just sorted out some bugs and added a few little tweaks that should have been there in the first place (i.e. the appstore password thing, clock app on the iPad)

when i bought the new iPad and used it for a while, i started to love the hardware changes (retina display, speed, camera) and thought they finally have the device to really change iOS to something new and improved (i.e use the screen real estate better).

4 things that they should have included in iOS 6:
+ new lockscreen (it's ugly and still the same as in 2006)
+ user changeable icon size (while the current state makes sense for older people, for me they are way too big)
+ customizable notificationcenter (switches, widgets,...)
+ change the position of the cursor by swiping right to left to right over the keyboard and mark text by swiping from the shift button.

now comes the amazing part: all these tweaks are available if you jailbreak. so it could have been no problem at all for apple to implement them :rolleyes:

John.B
Jun 18, 2012, 08:54 AM
:mad:

So download the Google Maps app, it'll almost certainly be released by the time iOS 6 ships. And enjoy the "sponsored links" that go with it.

HowEver
Jun 18, 2012, 09:01 AM
Also, enjoy Google tracking you.


So download the Google Maps app, it'll almost certainly be released by the time iOS 6 ships. And enjoy the "sponsored links" that go with it.

MikeT77
Jun 18, 2012, 09:37 AM
but what about a native Weather App as well? It's STILL missing...

anjinha
Jun 18, 2012, 09:45 AM
My main concern is whether the engineers/designers at Apple are even noticing that or prioritizing such a revamp. I just can't believe how bad that app is, even if just to play a DAMN list of songs without any playlists!

What do you mean? Just tap the " Songs" button on the bottom and start playing.

whooleytoo
Jun 18, 2012, 09:47 AM
Macrumors is an iOS 6 change? Wooooooot! :p

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3050/screenshot20120618at154.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/screenshot20120618at154.png/)

SeattleMoose
Jun 18, 2012, 10:01 AM
The author says "Like many parts of Find My Friends, this is one part creepy, two parts useful. "

I would reverse that to be two parts creepy......the potential for covert abuse here is HUGE!!!

And Apple is going to allow 3rd Party developers to tap into GeoFencing (with your permission of course...wink).

And when the phone is stolen, this is a potential bonanza for criminals, pedophiles, etc.

Not to mention our own government spying on us....

Does Apple have a NSA office in their building???:confused:

Jeffzilla
Jun 18, 2012, 10:01 AM
Love the possibility of enhanced 3rd party integration for Geofencing. Here's my brief writeup..

http://jeffreydonenfeld.com/blog/2012/06/enhanced-ios-6-geofencing/

$*~AAPL~*$
Jun 18, 2012, 10:02 AM
I think I will install ios 6 on my shiny new iPad 3 just for the clock...

I love IOS features. Would Love to see a weather app like iphone4. Will dl ios6 if anything just to be more in control what apps cannot access.
:apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:

joseph2166
Jun 18, 2012, 10:26 AM
This is not a major release. Even the update to Maps means only to Apple.
My wishlist is:
- Landscape functionality extended to all the Apple applications, with particular reference to the Phone app (which needs a refresh), and to the home screen.
- Bluetooth, Hotspot, wi-fi activations from the notification windows.
- A better Music app on the iPhone (long titles support, car mode etc. etc.).
- A Music app on the iPad (although the one installed by Apple is a way to listen to music in 2012 ...)
- An improved vocal interface, extended at least down to the Iphone4 and iPad2, which does not require an internet connection.

Two quick questions:
- What exactly could be improved by a landscape phone app? (- or which other Apple apps were you referring to?)
- You don't happen to have an iPhone4 and an iPad2 do you? Just a completely random guess...

lemoncrsh
Jun 18, 2012, 10:30 AM
They didn't name it "the new iPad". They named it simply "iPad".


And then in their marketing materials they consistently made the mistake of calling it "the new iPad", so now everyone thinks that's what it's called. In their technical and support documentation, they differenciate between it and the original iPad by saying "iPad (3rd generation)".

Stay tuned for "The new iPhone"

viewfly
Jun 18, 2012, 11:01 AM
Some nice and needed additions.

NorEaster
Jun 18, 2012, 11:23 AM
So download the Google Maps app, it'll almost certainly be released by the time iOS 6 ships. And enjoy the "sponsored links" that go with it.

Also, enjoy Google tracking you.

You don't think Apple wouldn't do the same? I wouldn't be surprised if the Yelp integration at one point will suggest restaurants based on neighborhoods that you frequent often. Most people will probably find this useful (I would) but this wouldn't be possible without Apple tracking your location. So cut the crap about "Google is bad because they track you"...Apple will most likely do the same.

Black Belt
Jun 18, 2012, 11:53 AM
Can we PLEASE add more room in folders for the iPhone?

John.B
Jun 18, 2012, 12:28 PM
but what about a native Weather App as well? It's STILL missing...

The iPhone native Weather app periodically prompts me to switch my search engine to Yahoo... Annoying. If they're going to add the native iOS Weather app from the iPhone to the iPad, I wish they'd fix that first.

You don't think Apple wouldn't do the same? I wouldn't be surprised if the Yelp integration at one point will suggest restaurants based on neighborhoods that you frequent often. Most people will probably find this useful (I would) but this wouldn't be possible without Apple tracking your location. So cut the crap about "Google is bad because they track you"...Apple will most likely do the same.

Any cell phone company has the ability to track you. The difference is that, unlike Apple, Google's entire business model is built around first tracking you and then monetizing that detailed, specific information about you. It's built into Android, and it's also built into the Google maps in the current Maps app.

My post that you quoted is a case in point. Yesterday, using the Map app on my iPad, I ran a search from my current location to Key West, and the directions take me to a "sponsored link" to some remotely-located business, instead of the town center where most people would expect Map travel directions to take them. A very un-Apple-like experience, in my book. I even tried a couple of searches for directions to popular National Parks, and both results would've taken me to "sponsored link" hotels many miles away from the destination.

The issue isn't so much that "Google is bad because they track you" as it is "Google is bad because they track everything about you and then market that data to the highest bidder instead of giving you what you're actually searching for".

And, as I pointed out, anyone who still wants to use the Google Maps app with street view and "sponsored links" and Google's location tracking and God-knows-what-else-tracking, I'm sure will be able to download it from the App Store for free.

50548
Jun 18, 2012, 12:44 PM
What do you mean? Just tap the " Songs" button on the bottom and start playing.

I hear ya, Little Angel; but have you tried to play one artist just to realize that it doesn't go past the album you're currently playing? Or the fact that the "songs" list is not even well sorted?

This and MANY other little gripes with the music app - the previous version was much more intuitive and fluid...check my other post above with an external link.

CGJay
Jun 18, 2012, 02:16 PM
Anyone else think that this reflective slider was done by an intern who was probably working on one of Apple's fake projects and Forstall's probably gone, 'Hey, that's pretty neat!'?

The iPhone native Weather app periodically prompts me to switch my search engine to Yahoo... Annoying. If they're going to add the native iOS Weather app from the iPhone to the iPad, I wish they'd fix that first.



I wish they'd let you change the Weather Provider. I'm sick of Yahoo telling me it's 18º while the Met Office tells me it's 14º. The Met Office is always more accurate.

ZZ Bottom
Jun 18, 2012, 03:10 PM
I want to be able to add a custom signature to my text messages and iMessages like in mail.

holy cow that would get old fast. I'm pretty sure that if someone I text regularly had a signature for every text I would have to block them.

Are you coming over?
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

No

Why not?
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

Leave me alone

Why?
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

Don't you have work to do?

Nope all done.
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

Are you coming over?
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

NO

Why????
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

Because I hate you and your stupid iMessage signature!!

..
-Sent from Tina's iPhone

Macthemaca
Jun 18, 2012, 03:22 PM
Still nothing in comparison to cydia and a liberated iphone/ipad!

spacemanspifff
Jun 18, 2012, 04:02 PM
Dear Apple,

How about you stop your engineers pissassing around with not needed eye candy and put them to work adding something that we really need - Like say, oh I dunno - Multi-user accounts on the iPad! :eek:

Oh look it twinkles, FECK OFF!

:)

And BTW it's the same effect that you see on the login page here https://www.icloud.com/#

taedouni
Jun 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
I am really happy that Apple is bringing missing stock Apps to the iPad.

CyBeRino
Jun 18, 2012, 07:39 PM
Stay tuned for "The new iPhone"


I highly doubt they'll make that mistake again. The new iPhone will be called "iPhone" (not iPhone 6 and certainly not iPhone 5, as the 4S is the fifth one) and they'll likely refer to it just as 'iPhone' again too, with "iPhone (6th Generation)" in support docs.


I am really happy that Apple is bringing missing stock Apps to the iPad.


Only if they add some actually useful info to it. Like the bloomberg app, where you can input your position and it'll figure out your profit/loss. As it stands, the stock stock app (hah) is actually not that useful.

ww1971
Jun 19, 2012, 02:59 AM
Does apple have any plans to offer full SMS support (receiving and sending SMS from any phones) for iPad's I messaging app in iOS 6 or future iOS releases?

Calle68
Jun 19, 2012, 07:51 AM
Two quick questions:
- What exactly could be improved by a landscape phone app? (- or which other Apple apps were you referring to?)
- You don't happen to have an iPhone4 and an iPad2 do you? Just a completely random guess...

As an example, when I use the Tom Tom Dock in my car for navigation, the landscape view is better IMO. Why I have to rotate the dock in order to see who's calling me? Why all the buttons to select the output are in portrait mode?

Why the home and lock screen do not rotate as with the iPad (better after a customizable delay, in the iPhone)?

:) You guess right.

Galatian
Jun 19, 2012, 01:32 PM
I know how you feel. 8 years ago I bought a car, it was top of the line, the most expensive model, it had everything, heated leather seats, power sun roof. And After I bought it, the very next year. The manufacturer added GPS to the exact same model for the same price. I tried to go have it installed by them, but they said it would cost $2000 to have it installed. They screwed me over bad. Since then I've never bought a new car, so I know exactly what I'm not getting.

My suggestion for you to not get screwed over by apple is to wait until the 2013 iPad comes out, then buy the 2012 model, and you'll know what you're not getting, and never plan on updating your OS. That way you won't get that "I'm getting screwed over feeling"

You're not getting what I'm saying: Apple KNEW they would release the iPhone 4 a few months later with more RAM then the iPad. The A4 from the iPad is essentially "broken" parts that didn't make it into the iPhone production. Today I can have this information beforehand (see Apple TV 3rd Gen), but I didn't when the iPad was released. Apple should have known better and should not have saved a few penny on such a premium priced product (the 800€ for the 64GB 3G version is well over 1000$ which can get me seriously more powerful devices). Also Apple brought a front facing camera with the iPhone 4 so they again KNEW that they would be releasing this technology and even made plans to do it on the iPad (as shown on several ifixit pictures), but they opted not to for saving a few bucks. Again I wasn't given this information beforehand so in retrospect: yes I feel like I've been screwed over by Apple by being kept uninformed. For me the iPad as neat as is could be is just to little for to much money. I can get a MacBook Air for just a little more which is ordered of magnitudes more powerful and will keep me running for definitely more then 2 years. My iPad got slow with iOS 5 and a lot of apps I used to use in university constantly crash on low memory issues. It's no fun anymore and I feel bitterly let down by Apple so I will not purchase a new iPad unless it will make some significantly progress to usability beyond a media consumption.

blackhand1001
Jun 19, 2012, 04:19 PM
... -_- It's similar to Apple's patent on moving the shadows on screen based on the suns position...

That shouldn't be patentable. I have used many programs that have changed lighting based on the time of day.

polaris20
Jun 19, 2012, 05:02 PM
Something that could be very good for music creation people like myself is "Inter-app audio", which is also being introduced with iOS 6.

If this is what Synthtopia is thinking it is (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/06/11/inter-app-audio-coming-in-ios-6/), it could mean audio from one app being passed to another app.

For example, I could run IK Multimedia's excellent Amplitube guitar amp modeler into a track slot on GarageBand's timeline, much like how Rewire works on a desktop/laptop.

This would be extremely powerful for musicians doing work on iPads. It's a great platform for sketching ideas out on the go, and this would only enhance that even further.

Kwill
Jun 21, 2012, 10:36 AM
Does the iPad 2 include geolocation? If not, this may be the reason why Siri will only be offered on the "new iPad."

John.B
Jun 21, 2012, 03:43 PM
Does the iPad 2 include geolocation? If not, this may be the reason why Siri will only be offered on the "new iPad."

They'll all do the "pseudo geolocation" via WiFi, but to get actual GPS support you have to buy the iPad 2 w/ 3G or iPad 3 + Cellular (i.e. w/ 4G).

jfc123
Jul 2, 2012, 07:26 PM
holy cow that would get old fast. I'm pretty sure that if someone I text regularly had a signature for every text I would have to block them.

One my friends phone he puts different phrases like

~These words were written by pure genius ~
It isn't really for a signiture as much as something like that. I just think that it is kinda cool.