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Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 11:34 AM
Hello All

I'm having trouble intalling Tiger OS X on my G4,
basic info about my G4
OS 9.2.2
build in memory 768 MB
Processor Info Power PCG 4
speed 800 Mhz
Hard Drive 4.15GB of free space
also have another partition with OS X 10.1.5 installed 8GB free space
dual boot

i'm using external DVD-RW to install Tiger

here is the problem

i start up in OS 9.2.2
control panel -->go to startup disk --> select Tiger DVD 10.4.1 click on restart, while restarting I get apple icon and a spining icon on the bottom
it does that from few minutes and then freezes, nothing happens

i have no idea what is the problem
( i tired to boot holding down 'C' key and 'OPTION' key
please advice



grapes911
Jul 20, 2005, 11:38 AM
Did you try telling it to boot from cd while you are in 10.1.5?

Is the external firewire or usb? It can only boot from firewire.

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 11:43 AM
yes i did try booting from 10.1.5 but i when do it goes to booting to OS 9.2 i do have usb and firewire, i'll try to do it from firewire

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 11:51 AM
external firewire cable conected to my DVD-RW i tired to re boot
same thing

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 12:03 PM
still nothing
any other advice :(

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 12:51 PM
:eek: i'm going nuts :eek:

this problem driving me crazy ...............................................

??????????????????????????????

CubaTBird
Jul 20, 2005, 12:54 PM
does your mac not have a built in dvd drive? is that why you are using the external drive? try this... hold down the option key while your comp boots up and you should get a new menu that allows you to choose what media you want to boot from... cd, hard drive, network drive.. etc...

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 01:03 PM
thank you for your reply
i do not have built in DVD drive

same thing happens
I get apple icon and a spining icon on the bottom
it does that from few minutes and then freezes, nothing happens

grapes911
Jul 20, 2005, 01:23 PM
Do you have access to another Mac you can try it on? You don't have install it, just see if you can get into the setup.

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 01:40 PM
i do have another MAC OS 9.2 G4 as well, DVD-ROM build in, the same problem i wonder why?

could it be something in OS 9.2? or hardware issue

ITASOR
Jul 20, 2005, 02:06 PM
Is the Tiger version legal and a legit copy or a burned copy? Usually the burned ones act funny and stuff.

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 02:11 PM
its legal, never burned, 5 user family pack

i only installed it on two Power Mac G5

and now this G4 giving me all this problems

mkubal
Jul 20, 2005, 02:33 PM
If you start up in 10.1.5 and insert the disc, you should see an icon when you double click on the disc that says "Install Mac OS X." Have you tried double clicking that because it should restart the computer for you and get the install going?

Edit: Or you could give Apple the DVD installer back and get CDs:

http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/tigermediaexchangev3.pdf

Edit 2: Also, I'm not sure that it doesn't require a DVD drive built in. Can anyone confirm that they installed from an external drive?

Ara1700
Jul 20, 2005, 03:02 PM
yeah no help

other forces at work here

i wonder ???????????

dsharits
Jul 20, 2005, 04:14 PM
If you start up in 10.1.5 and insert the disc, you should see an icon when you double click on the disc that says "Install Mac OS X." Have you tried double clicking that because it should restart the computer for you and get the install going?

Edit: Or you could give Apple the DVD installer back and get CDs:

http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/tigermediaexchangev3.pdf

Edit 2: Also, I'm not sure that it doesn't require a DVD drive built in. Can anyone confirm that they installed from an external drive?
I think it should install from an extrenal DVD drive. I installed Tiger on an iMac G4 with only a built-in CD/RW drive using my iBook in target disk mode as an external DVD drive, and it worked fine. As long as it's a FireWire drive it should work.

hob
Jul 20, 2005, 07:59 PM
Boot holding the OPTION key, then try selecting the DVD from there?

Have you tried installing over the network? Have you got an iPod? You could try the alternative options listed in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=122236&page=1).

snickelfritz
Jul 20, 2005, 08:46 PM
Hello All

I'm having trouble intalling Tiger OS X on my G4,
basic info about my G4
OS 9.2.2
build in memory 768 MB
Processor Info Power PCG 4
speed 800 Mhz
Hard Drive 4.15GB of free space
also have another partition with OS X 10.1.5 installed 8GB free space
dual boot

i'm using external DVD-RW to install Tiger

here is the problem

i start up in OS 9.2.2
control panel -->go to startup disk --> select Tiger DVD 10.4.1 click on restart, while restarting I get apple icon and a spining icon on the bottom
it does that from few minutes and then freezes, nothing happens

i have no idea what is the problem
( i tired to boot holding down 'C' key and 'OPTION' key
please advice

You have insufficient disk space, and possibly a boot issue with your external DVD drive.
My advice would be to confirm the viability of your external DVD drive, then choose the "erase and install" option for Tiger installation.
You can purchase an internal Pioneer DVD writer for about $60, and Tiger will see it as an "Apple supported and shipped" Superdrive.

yellow
Jul 20, 2005, 08:52 PM
Is your firmware up to date on this Mac?

Billicus
Jul 20, 2005, 09:09 PM
Is your firmware up to date on this Mac?

I was thinking it could be this, but Mactracker says there are no Firmware updates for this model of PowerMac G4? :confused:

yellow
Jul 20, 2005, 10:26 PM
Then my next suggestion would be to pull ALL except 256MB of RAM. Then try and boot from the CD and install OS X.

GodBless
Jul 21, 2005, 12:05 AM
I get apple icon and a spining icon on the bottomDid you see the screen where you select your startup drive? Holding the option key at startup is not just for a second or two; it is for the whole time it is booting up from the moment you hear the chime (before the chime won't hurt either) until the computer gives you the option of what you want to boot off of (examples OS 9, OS X, CD-ROM or DVD).

Ara1700
Jul 21, 2005, 09:01 AM
thank you guys for your replys
i'm going over few options

thanks

ChrisFromCanada
Jul 21, 2005, 09:35 AM
Some DVD drives simply do not have bootability. They can work fine for burning/ripping, but for some reason some just can't boot from a CD. What brand is your external?

Ara1700
Jul 21, 2005, 10:11 AM
i think you are you right

model: Sony DVD-RW-DW U14A

Ara1700
Jul 21, 2005, 10:20 AM
Also
i do not have Ipod, Imac or Powerbook

to use as target disk mode

i do have PowerMac G5 can i use that install Tiger OS X on my G4?

jeremy.king
Jul 21, 2005, 11:08 AM
Drop the 50 bucks and get yourself an DVD+-RW (DL) upgrade, like the pioneer DVR-109 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129161)

dsharits
Jul 21, 2005, 11:10 AM
Drop the 50 bucks and get yourself an DVD+-RW (DL) upgrade, like the pioneer DVR-109 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129161)
I agree on that. The DVR-109 is awesome with OS X. No problems whatsoever.

grapes911
Jul 21, 2005, 12:34 PM
i do have PowerMac G5 can i use that install Tiger OS X on my G4?
You should be able to.
Boot your G4 in target mode and connect it via firewire to your G5. Put the DVD in your G5 and boot into the Tiger installer. Install Tiger, but Make sure you select the G4's hard drive or you will loose your data on the G5 When finished, you should be able to boot the G4 into tiger.