'Incidents' spark Tube evacuation

[iGav]

Oh no... not again. :(

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm)

Be safe folks.

[iGav]

Reuters reporting nail bomb at Warren St Tube, and incident on bus in East End...

:(

[asif786]

i've heard that they were 'dummy explosions' in 3 tube stations..i.e. just the detonators (sp?).

reports also of a nail bomb at warren st tube and an explosion on a bus in east london [hackney]

errm..i'm not sure why they've evacuated the oval though?

[Piarco]

Looks like they got to Warren Street before anything happened though, as they'd already evacuated due to a suspect package. And I hope the rest were all det-duds. Means it'll be easier to nab the idiots behind it.
This seems to be less organised than two weeks ago - maybe a group of people hoping to do the same, but without the obvious support the last four had?
No reports of casulties so far, lets hope it stays that way.....

[geese]

Am at goodge street. Warren street blocked off. Have seen some paramedic vehicles fly pass but no ambulances. Central Line and other lines are still working.

I'm hoping that this a mountain out of a molehill this time.

[Applespider]

errm..i'm not sure why they've evacuated the oval though?

Someone forgot the cricket was at Lords?

Let's wait and see what's actually happening before we worry too much. We've got one group in the office who are bemoaning the end of civilisation...

[fitinferno]

i've heard that they were 'dummy explosions' in 3 tube stations..i.e. just the detonators (sp?).

reports also of a nail bomb at warren st tube and an explosion on a bus in east london [hackney]

errm..i'm not sure why they've evacuated the oval though?

There was a small bang at Oval and some people saw a man running away.

This is so crazy...I have friends who were very scared after what happened a fortnight ago...in fact, one got so scared that she got off three stops earlier and called a friend to come help her get home.

I can only imagine how much she's going to want to travel after this. It is hard sometimes to try to convince people that the tube and buses are perfectly safe.

[asif786]

Let's wait and see what's actually happening before we worry too much. We've got one group in the office who are bemoaning the end of civilisation...

indeed, it doesn't seem to be too big..although it may not be over yet.

i wish i was sleeping atm. that way i could just wake up in 5 hours and get accurate info as opposed to tidbits..heh

[asif786]

I can only imagine how much she's going to want to travel after this. It is hard sometimes to try to convince people that the tube and buses are perfectly safe.

that' very true. i'm normally undeterred by these sorts of things..you have to get on with things - but after the second lot of 'incidents' even i think i'll be staying away for a few days..or maybe just every other thursday.. :/

mm..how melodramatic

[fitinferno]

that' very true. i'm normally undeterred by these sorts of things..you have to get on with things - but after the second lot of 'incidents' even i think i'll be staying away for a few days..or maybe just every other thursday.. :/

mm..how melodramatic

Yeah I don't blame you.

I'm very undeterred and will ride whenever I please...but I still have the whole "I can't afford the tube" issue so I'm stuck on the buses. And the route 188 (my main bus) is so bad as it is...no one would be able to do anything bad to it because the bus NEVER comes...lol

[Piarco]

Seems to be all duds so far. Which makes me think could it be extremists sowing seeds of paranoia, or just morons thinking this would be a laugh?

I'm lucky as I can walk to work in 10min (I work at a major hospital in South London) so I'll never have to worry about the commute to work. Still, I think my travel patterns have changed since 2 Thursdays ago... I find myself avoiding the first 3 carridges of any tube now...... something I'm going to stop doing.

[Applespider]

I find myself avoiding the first 3 carridges of any tube now...... something I'm going to stop doing.

Given that the experts said in the papers that the bombers made a mistake going for the first/last carriages of the Tubes and should have gone for the middle of the train for maximum effect, I've decided just to get on wherever I'm planning on getting off.

[fitinferno]

Given that the experts said in the papers that the bombers made a mistake going for the first/last carriages of the Tubes and should have gone for the middle of the train for maximum effect, I've decided just to get on wherever I'm planning on getting off.

Heh, that's probably the best way to do things...and if you plan it right, you get to be the lucky person who's door stops right in front of the Way Out :D It's always great to be ahead of the slower people, especially if you're trying to get somewhere.

[spacefreak4]

Wow. I can't believe that the same type of attacks happened again. Living in America, I actually felt the safest after the first set of London terror attacks, because I thought that no terrorist would be stupid enough to try an attack so close to the previous one. But I guess I was wrong. Stay safe London.

[hob]

The BBC has reported in the last 15 minutes that a man has been arrested in whitehall - outside of downing street. There are pictures of armed police taking a middle-eastern man with his shirt undone away...

[asif786]

The BBC has reported in the last 15 minutes that a man has been arrested in whitehall - outside of downing street. There are pictures of armed police taking a middle-eastern man with his shirt undone away...

indeed..i wonder if they had some info on him..or if they just arrested him because he was stupid enough to stand outside the MOD with an unbuttoned shirt after 'incidents' like these..

there's something happening at university college hosp too..3 armed police went in with machine guns..and nobody's allowed in or out..

[Mr. Anderson]

The BBC has reported in the last 15 minutes that a man has been arrested in whitehall - outside of downing street. There are pictures of armed police taking a middle-eastern man with his shirt undone away...


It will be great if they catch some of these guys alive. I really hope they're able to track them down and get at the people behind the whole thing.

But I'm amazed that its happened again so soon.....very sad.

D

[Applespider]

At the moment, it looks like opportunists trying to copycat since it appears, thankfully, amateurish.

And we're all being told to go back to normal business... The Victoria line is apparently running on on either side of Warren St and the City branch of the Northern line is working too.

So how back to normal are we going to get... anyone still up for the MR meetup tonight? ;)

[ham_man]

Hopefully this is not another one. Hopefully everything is alright across the pond...

[wdlove]

The citizens of Britain and London in particular have and continue to be in my prayers. I have been listening to the coverage today on a local radio station. It's quite amazing that they were able to do this again so soon. The resolve the the British continues. Was happy to hear that no lives were lost this time. A warning to let us know of the gravity that remains in our war against terrorism. With all the cameras, it would seem very possible to make some arrests.

[fitinferno]

At the moment, it looks like opportunists trying to copycat since it appears, thankfully, amateurish.

And we're all being told to go back to normal business... The Victoria line is apparently running on on either side of Warren St and the City branch of the Northern line is working too.

So how back to normal are we going to get... anyone still up for the MR meetup tonight? ;)

Ah, I would've totally been up for the meetup tonight (I just saw that post today, lol) but I fell asleep until now! I'm so lazy...

I hope it was good if you all did still have it :)

[absolut_mac]

At the moment, it looks like opportunists trying to copycat since it appears, thankfully, amateurish.

Or maybe others emboldened by the bombings 2 weeks ago.

Either way, I really hope that the cops catch them and give them what they deserve.

Stay safe Brits.

[hvfsl]

They seem to be saying that the bombs are very similar to the ones used 2 weeks ago, which suggests it's the same group as before (people linked the bombers of two weeks ago).

They are saying that all bombs were meant to go off, but the detonators failed to set off the explosive material. I know that in Spain for example, some of the bombs did fail to go off (which is how they were able to trace the terrorists), but I don't think I have ever heard of a terrorist plot where all the bombs failed. :confused:

[fitinferno]

They seem to be saying that the bombs are very similar to the ones used 2 weeks ago, which suggests it's the same group as before (people linked the bombers of two weeks ago).

They are saying that all bombs were meant to go off, but the detonators failed to set off the explosive material. I know that in Spain for example, some of the bombs did fail to go off (which is how they were able to trace the terrorists), but I don't think I have ever heard of a terrorist plot where all the bombs failed. :confused:

I'm just glad to see they all didn't properly go off. I hope that this means the police can catch who was behind putting them there in the first place and get some information out of them about who might be initiating these things.

We really need to put a stop to this...and hopefully it does not mean the start of a trend of attacks.

[Dave00]

With any luck, these guys are associated with the terrorists of two weeks ago. If so, it's something of a miracle that none of the bombs exploded. Not only was there no loss of life, but there should be an enormous amount of information to be gained from the bombs, and hopefully one or more of the suspects can be taken alive. (It appears that one suspect was unfortunately shot dead - although with the emotions running high, I can see why the police might be a little trigger-happy.)

One of the truly sad outcomes of the bombings will be a reduction in Londoners' famous tolerance of multiculturalism. No matter how tolerant you consider yourself, it's hard to imagine now not feeling uncomfortable on a train next to a young man in Muslim garb, especially one carrying a backpack. In the end, that's probably what the terrorists want. Tolerance tends to defuse extremism - it's hard to paint general society as an enemy if they accept you.

Dave

[Abstract]

Bad detonators?

Anyway, I want these terrorists to stay alive so that the police can interrogate* them for useful information.

*beat

[garybUK]

At least no one can say our Police arn't doing anything about it.... no p!ssing around with 'war on terror' just get the job done!

There is a time and place for war on terror but now its just catching the b@starts ... it's evident that their networks run across the country and uprooting it is the most important thing now.

[hob]

Bad detonators?

Anyway, I want these terrorists to stay alive so that the police can interrogate* them for useful information.

*beat

A professor on the BBC just said that if it was the same group, they were most likely using the same explosives. The particular explosive used on 7/7 needed a certain type of detonator, which was the same one used yesterday. However, the explosive degrades over time, and after two weeks, he said, you might be left with 1/3 or 1/4 of the effectiveness of what you had...

So the terrorists just let their explosives get old... which is why they failed.

[Dave00]

And now there's protests of "excessive force" used against the guy the police shot, which initially I felt as well... however, after reading the story, he apparently had on a heavy thick coat with wires coming out of it, and leapt over the turnstile to run onto the train despite repeated exhortations to stop. I'm sorry, but you just can't behave like that in this environment and expect to remain alive. Heck, the cops would've been remiss *not* to use deadly force, especially after he made it on board the train with a potential bomb. Oh well.

--D

[Sabbath]

Bleh, what a couple of days, I live really close to the Hammersmith and City traintrack in Shepherd's Bush. Our house was closed off until this evening, which is an absolute nightmare, I had to check into the Hilton last night. Going to work in the same clothes you wore the day before, not being able to have a shave etc. definitely not fun. T

[AppleMatt]

Given that the experts said in the papers that the bombers made a mistake going for the first/last carriages of the Tubes and should have gone for the middle of the train for maximum effect...

This pisses me off. Today they were saying on BBC news that the terrorists used the wrong type of explosives, which degraded and so didn't fire.

WHY NOT FUKING TELL THEM THE DOOR ACCESS CODES FOR MI6 HQ WHILE WE'RE AT IT?

The 'experts' should stop giving so much 'expert advice'.

AppleMatt

[Jaffa Cake]

And now there's protests of "excessive force" used against the guy the police shot...I'm sure the Police would rather deal with such protests than have to explain how did nothing to stop a man they had been trailing, who had then repeatedly disobeyed their instructions and then killed bystanders by detonating a bomb.

Fortunately, the police shooting people dead is still a relatively rare occurrance in this country – the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm) is reporting this evening that the police believe the dead man was 'directly linked' to Thursday's attacks... I suppose we'll find out more over the next few days.