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surjavarman
Jun 21, 2012, 05:41 PM
I am disappointed. So much so that I am hungering for an iphone.

1) Its not necessarily the software. Because android and many will agree with this is much more advanced than iOS 5 and 6. Many pro's have acknowledged that. I somewhat agree with that. Its easier to use, its customizable, better integrated with google services, best navigation in town, flexible, you are not stuck in an ecosystem where you'd have to abide by the rules, more secure than ios imo, kinetic scrolling makes it more fluid than ios (surprise! I said it).

But most apps just suck and there is hardly any choice for apps. On iphone I got tons of games, I'll never get bored. And there is just tons of other apps. You'll never have to worry about a service not being supported on your iphone cause every mother and all is developing for iOS. And the stuff in Google Play is just junk. 90% of the apps has ads, tracks my phone calls, my address book, wants full internet access. Thats just malware. Why does angry birds want to know who I am calling, for how long and who are in my contacts. They are just going to sell this data to third parties.

2) The hardware. I switched to the HTC One S because I wanted to have a bigger screen and the HOS is made out of an aluminum unibody. But the build quality just is not there. Reception sucks. Battery on the iphone is much better than on the HTC One S. There are seams and holes everywhere where dust builds up. Cheap use of plastics even though it has an aluminum unibody. The screen of the iphone is much sharper. Although its smaller, I still get more real estate when web browsing compared to the HOS.



mbell1975
Jun 21, 2012, 05:54 PM
Meh. I have an android phone and an iPad and use both ios and android every day. I can find 99% of the apps on both platforms and they virtually look and work the same.

alphaola
Jun 21, 2012, 05:59 PM
It's funny how people complain about how crap android is. They spent almost 500 on an iPhone and 200 on android phone and yet expect the same quality. I have an iPad , galaxy nexus and iPhone 4s. These are solid devices. Just enjoy them for what they are.

boomhower
Jun 21, 2012, 06:03 PM
I've also used both and completely disagree with Android being more secure and easier to use. The reason Android apps have ads is they make more money. Many developers have said they make more in the Android store by making the apps free with ads than paid without. Many studies have been done and Android users are much less apt to pay for apps than iOS users. When I made the switch to iOS the first thing I noticed was the apps were much more polished and higher quality in general. iOS is generally developed for first and usually has a quality end product. I dont see that changing anytime soon.

nfl46
Jun 21, 2012, 06:12 PM
Meh. I have an android phone and an iPad and use both ios and android every day. I can find 99% of the apps on both platforms and they virtually look and work the same.

Not sure about the "look" part. Lol.

Applejuiced
Jun 21, 2012, 06:17 PM
. I can find 99% of the apps on both platforms and they virtually look and work the same.

Yeah right:D

lilo777
Jun 21, 2012, 06:18 PM
I am disappointed. So much so that I am hungering for an iphone.

1) Its not necessarily the software. Because android and many will agree with this is much more advanced than iOS 5 and 6. Many pro's have acknowledged that. I somewhat agree with that. Its easier to use, its customizable, better integrated with google services, best navigation in town, flexible, you are not stuck in an ecosystem where you'd have to abide by the rules, more secure than ios imo, kinetic scrolling makes it more fluid than ios (surprise! I said it).

But most apps just suck and there is hardly any choice for apps. On iphone I got tons of games, I'll never get bored. And there is just tons of other apps. You'll never have to worry about a service not being supported on your iphone cause every mother and all is developing for iOS. And the stuff in Google Play is just junk. 90% of the apps has ads, tracks my phone calls, my address book, wants full internet access. Thats just malware. Why does angry birds want to know who I am calling, for how long and who are in my contacts. They are just going to sell this data to third parties.

2) The hardware. I switched to the HTC One S because I wanted to have a bigger screen and the HOS is made out of an aluminum unibody. But the build quality just is not there. Reception sucks. Battery on the iphone is much better than on the HTC One S. There are seams and holes everywhere where dust builds up. Cheap use of plastics even though it has an aluminum unibody. The screen of the iphone is much sharper. Although its smaller, I still get more real estate when web browsing compared to the HOS.

Many Android apps have two versions - add sponsored (free) and paid. iPhone mostly offers only the second option.

As for permissions. That's what Rovio said:
Phone State Permissions:
The phone state permission is used to identify devices in order to implement advertisement frequency capping and targeting. Basically the aim is to avoid a situation where our customer has to view the same advertisement too many times on the device in question.

More info here (http://www.androidcentral.com/rovio-explains-new-permissions-angry-birds-seasons-update).
Nothing to worry. It would be stupid to suspect Rovio in some shady activities (after all, they are not Apple:D)

LIVEFRMNYC
Jun 21, 2012, 06:20 PM
Speaking of apps ..... I wonder if this will bring any real change into Android's ugly app world.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/21/google-entices-android-developers-to-build-beautiful-powerful/

lilo777
Jun 21, 2012, 06:20 PM
Yeah right:D

As a matter of fact there is better selection of apps on Android simply because Apple puts too many restrictions on what the developers can and can't do (like use of interpreters etc.)

nefan65
Jun 21, 2012, 06:23 PM
It's funny how people complain about how crap android is. They spent almost 500 on an iPhone and 200 on android phone and yet expect the same quality. I have an iPad , galaxy nexus and iPhone 4s. These are solid devices. Just enjoy them for what they are.

500? I paid $199 US for mine. The same cost as the best Android handset that was out at that time. Stop making stuff up.

DodgeV83
Jun 21, 2012, 06:48 PM
As a matter of fact there is better selection of apps on Android simply because Apple puts too many restrictions on what the developers can and can't do (like use of interpreters etc.)

That depends on your definition of better selection. Photography, games, and video apps, iOS has a better selection. Wigets, task managers, live wallpapers...etc, Android has a better selection.

Overall, the general concensus seems to be that iOS apps are more stable and generally of higher quality across all categories, likely due to fragmentation issues, and the limited profit potential vs the AppStore.

batting1000
Jun 21, 2012, 07:13 PM
OP: I felt the same way when I went from the 4S to an Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's GS2) and then back to my current 4S a month later. Not sure what I was thinking then...

...and the thing is I had two Android phones before the iPhone...

mopatops
Jun 21, 2012, 07:21 PM
500? I paid $199 US for mine. The same cost as the best Android handset that was out at that time. Stop making stuff up.

Take a look at the Apple UK store and you'll find the iPhone is 499 and up. Stop making stuff up? :rolleyes:

sakau2007
Jun 21, 2012, 07:59 PM
i can't really see why anyone would switch from a 4S to an android phone.

i could see going from a 3GS to a new android device or even a 4, just to give the platform a try... but an iPhone 4S to any android phone at the moment... even the brand new one, is going to be about a lateral move.

b166er
Jun 21, 2012, 08:01 PM
I have played around with a few Android phones. I think for the most part the OS itself is pretty cool. But the app market is garbage. I don't even think that's up for discussion- the quality as well as quantity of apps available for Android are not even close to that of iOS. Apple blows a lot of smoke sometimes, but that litte video they did at WWDC about why developers prefer iOS was 100% true.

A couple years ago I figured Android was just playing catch up in terms of apps, but it's clear that developers are more interested in iOS, and that's fine with me because I prefer iOS myself. Android is also lacking a little bit in the whole ecosystem mentality that Apple is getting pretty good at, but it's not half as bad as their deplorable app market.

I think Samsung is making some killer stuff and has been for a couple years, but it's the lack of third party greatness on Android that keeps me where I am.

Just my opinion.

mbell1975
Jun 21, 2012, 08:06 PM
That depends on your definition of better selection. Photography, games, and video apps, iOS has a better selection. Wigets, task managers, live wallpapers...etc, Android has a better selection

I can get hot girl and adult themed apps on my Android, that alone makes it a win in the apps dept for me. I don't need Apple deciding what I can and can't look at for me.

Frankied22
Jun 21, 2012, 08:08 PM
I can get hot girl and adult themed apps on my Android, that alone makes it a win in the apps dept for me. I don't need Apple deciding what I can and can't look at for me.

Lmao

Just look at "assistant" for android. What a babe!

mbell1975
Jun 21, 2012, 08:15 PM
Lmao

Just look at "assistant" for android. What a babe!

Yes, I have her! You can change her look and clothes and she sounds more human than Siri, more useful too.

Sensamic
Jun 21, 2012, 08:20 PM
I think we all agree that iOS apps are amazing on iOS and not so good on Android. Still, it has its own benefits over iOS.

Im really disappointed at iOS 6. So much could have been done and so little was... Just look at the 10 key new features.

aristobrat
Jun 21, 2012, 08:23 PM
Take a look at the Apple UK store and you'll find the iPhone is 499 and up. Stop making stuff up? :rolleyes:
If you're going to quote the super-expensive price of the unlocked iPhone that 99.99% of people will never consider buying, you could at least mention that. :D

Nice to see that Orange offers several plans with the iPhone 4s is free (which you never see in the US), and seven other plans where the iPhone 4s is significantly less than US$199, which is about the cheapest you'll ever see it on this side of the pond.

SurferMan
Jun 21, 2012, 09:18 PM
I guess it depends on what apps, I had no problem finding the same/similar apps for my GSII from my iPhones and what I use for personal/business etc, and in some cases the app's were better. I'm not a big gamer at all, rarely play, but some I have like Brothers in Arms and Gun Bros etc I actually liked better on this phone.. but I give the edge to iOS overall for games if that's your thing. Personally I don't need dozens upon dozens of photo apps on either phone, I love the cam on my 4S and GSII, and their great for a "phone" but no comparison to even my slim digi cam. Thing with the Android market is there are tons and tons in some cases for "X" that your looking for, I just skim through reviews and searched online for what I wanted. If your rooted, you can have ad's go "poof" from free apps as well ;) . As far as permissions I think a lot are/get confused by exactly what they are for and take it the wrong way, I know I was like that at first, till researching what the exact permissions would mean etc.

Said it before but my phone is as smooth and fast as iOS, no hiccups.. had way more hiccups/stutters/crashes even on the 4S. But hey that's electronics for ya, I don't hold it against Apple lol, ***** happens. Two 4Ss and the i777 stock edged them both out on battery life, with the custom ICS Rom now it's not even close, it's slightly better than my 4 in heavy use which was quite noticeably better then the 4S. Crazy how big the jump in battery life is with the stock bloatware etc removed.

IMO can't go wrong either way just depends on which you prefer, though I actually didn't care for the HTC One S, some weird quirks HTC did with that phone and the X. Aren't the bootloaders locked on both so can't have custom roms etc? Maybe I'm wrong there?

Genebaby
Jun 21, 2012, 09:41 PM
I've tried Android now with my work phone, GSII and I much prefer my 4S. I even un-jail broke my iPhone and still like it better. Screen responds better, the OS is smoother and renders things properly. Emails on the Galaxy don't fit on the screen and slide about badly when I try to see it all.

If there was no iPhone then Android would be incredible. The Galaxy has ICS and I can't see the fuss. The settings are very basic compared to IOS.

The best thing about Android is the Swype text input. That does work really well.

ixodes
Jun 21, 2012, 09:49 PM
I have one of the new HTC One X models, and an iPhone 4S.

They are nearly identical. Not enough differences in the display (other than size) to make a difference. HTC = 312 ppi. iP4S = 330, so as you can see it's very minimal. The biggest difference is the 3.5" vs 4.7" size. I'm on the web a lot, therefore the HTC's display is truly great.

There is no perfect phone, these two are as close as they come and both have great strengths. Because I have both activated on their own lines, it provides me with an opportunity that many don't experience.

Human nature is such that one generally only remembers the good things about a product once it's gone, so the only fair comparison is when you have them both.

Either way, I'm very satisfied.

Lindenhurst
Jun 21, 2012, 09:49 PM
Yawn....another make me feel like I did the right thing thread..to each his own..

npggirl
Jun 21, 2012, 10:40 PM
I can get hot girl and adult themed apps on my Android, that alone makes it a win in the apps dept for me. I don't need Apple deciding what I can and can't look at for me.

I've heard it all...lol

blairh
Jun 21, 2012, 11:00 PM
2) The hardware. I switched to the HTC One S because I wanted to have a bigger screen and the HOS is made out of an aluminum unibody. But the build quality just is not there. Reception sucks. Battery on the iphone is much better than on the HTC One S. There are seams and holes everywhere where dust builds up. Cheap use of plastics even though it has an aluminum unibody. The screen of the iphone is much sharper. Although its smaller, I still get more real estate when web browsing compared to the HOS.

The One S clearly has an inferior screen compared to the 4/4S. This was noted in several reviews I read. So complaining about such a thing after choosing to purchase the One S is pretty ridiculous. If you wanted a sharp screen, the One X was the obvious choice.

0m3ga
Jun 22, 2012, 12:47 AM
I love hearing from people that like to claim they know what's in the Android Marketplace aka Google Play, when they have never used an Android phone to know and if they have, it was "several years ago".

Every app I had on my iPhone 4, I have on my Galaxy S2 and now S3, save for one and that was a niche app for the medical field. Twitter, tweetbot aka tweetcaster, facebook, photo transfer app, whats app, flighttracker and every major airline, tasks (similar to clear but better integrated with google), PS Touch and express, youtube, netflix, imdb, i.tv, paypal, ebay, amazon, target, dropbox, sugarsync, g drive, tapatalk, pandora, and every major game (max payne, gta 3, angry birds, etc). I would have to list another hundred apps I have. Point is, these apps are identical or 99% identical to iOS apps. And I would know, since I use both OS's every single day, and cnstantly checking and updating from both app stores, plus cydia. Peace.

rever3nce
Jun 22, 2012, 12:53 AM
Meh. I have an android phone and an iPad and use both ios and android every day. I can find 99% of the apps on both platforms and they virtually look and work the same.

sure after instapaper has been out for 4 years on iOS :p and just a few weeks ago hit android "play store" or whatever they keep changing that name to

fretdevil
Jun 22, 2012, 01:00 AM
I can get hot girl and adult themed apps on my Android, that alone makes it a win in the apps dept for me. I don't need Apple deciding what I can and can't look at for me.

Why not a girlfriend and An iPhone?

0m3ga
Jun 22, 2012, 01:30 AM
sure after instapaper has been out for 4 years on iOS :p and just a few weeks ago hit android "play store" or whatever they keep changing that name to

And it took Apple 4 years to steal the Notification Center and even longer to get turn by turn navigation. Instapaper? Really? That's all you could come up with? An app most people don't care about. Weak.

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Yeah right:D

Yeah, true.

rever3nce
Jun 22, 2012, 01:33 AM
And it took Apple 4 years to steal the Notification Center and even longer to get turn by turn navigation. Instapaper? Really? That's all you could come up with? An app most people don't care about. Weak.

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Yeah, true.

Thats not the only thing, just comparing. everything gets put on app store first before it hits android market. And I care about instapaper, Use it everyday.

0m3ga
Jun 22, 2012, 02:25 AM
Thats not the only thing, just comparing. everything gets put on app store first before it hits android market. And I care about instapaper, Use it everyday.

Not everything gets put on app store first, but a lot of apps do. What I am saying is that every main stream app is in the Android marketplace.

rever3nce
Jun 22, 2012, 02:32 AM
Not everything gets put on app store first, but a lot of apps do. What I am saying is that every main stream app is in the Android marketplace.

yes that is true.

Gromet
Jun 22, 2012, 07:23 AM
To the OP,

Do you really believe the apps like Angry Bird does not collect the exact same information from your iPhone that it does on an android device? If you honestly believe it does not, I can guarantee you that you are mistaken.

I moved from an iPhone 4S to Android months ago. From what I have seen from iOS 6 I won't be going back to iOS any time soon. Android it years ahead of iOS. 99% of the new features you are getting in iOS 6 have been available on Android since 4.0 even some as far back as 2.3... LOL,

I love the ohhs and ahhhs at the iOS Keynote when Apple spoon feeds iOS users a feature they should have had years ago. Or when they make it like they invented some new magical feature that has been available on other OS's for years.

..Gromet

Wicked1
Jun 22, 2012, 07:40 AM
Had RIM, Android, Palm, other and iPhone devices. I have to say, I will never leave AT&T and my iPhone, they work just the way I need them to, I minimize my exposure of apps polling the internet etc by shutting down locations and notifications, and only keep the apps I use on a daily basis, 38 to be exact including the stock apps.

I have had no trouble with AT&T and I have had an iPhone since the 3G, so not new to them, my sons and wife had BB and Android. Clearly I had less issues then they did, and for that, my phone is an important devices to my everyday life, even using my company's exchange email on the iPhone is great without the need to buy a newer app for exchange.

It just works and for that, I love my iPhone...:rolleyes:

cynics
Jun 22, 2012, 09:10 AM
If you're going to quote the super-expensive price of the unlocked iPhone that 99.99% of people will never consider buying, you could at least mention that. :D

Nice to see that Orange offers several plans with the iPhone 4s is free (which you never see in the US), and seven other plans where the iPhone 4s is significantly less than US$199, which is about the cheapest you'll ever see it on this side of the pond.

Regardless the premium iPhone is more expensive then a premium android phone. Whether the carrier is paying for it or the consumer is.

Of course I read apple has a 40% profit margin on the iPhone which is a bit of a rip off on something so readily available that requires no labor after the fact....

aristobrat
Jun 22, 2012, 09:23 AM
Regardless the premium iPhone is more expensive then a premium android phone.
AT&T:
$199 = iPhone 4S
$199 = HTC One
$199 = Galaxy S III

Verizon:
$199 = iPhone 4S
$299 = Droid RAZR MAXX
$199 = Galaxy S III

Sprint:
$199 = iPhone 4S
$199 = HTC Evo
$199 = Galaxy S III

There are lesser expensive Android phones out there, but I don't think many folks would call them out as "current" Premium models.

DodgeV83
Jun 22, 2012, 10:12 AM
I love hearing from people that like to claim they know what's in the Android Marketplace aka Google Play, when they have never used an Android phone to know and if they have, it was "several years ago".

Every app I had on my iPhone 4, I have on my Galaxy S2 and now S3, save for one and that was a niche app for the medical field. Twitter, tweetbot aka tweetcaster, facebook, photo transfer app, whats app, flighttracker and every major airline, tasks (similar to clear but better integrated with google), PS Touch and express, youtube, netflix, imdb, i.tv, paypal, ebay, amazon, target, dropbox, sugarsync, g drive, tapatalk, pandora, and every major game (max payne, gta 3, angry birds, etc). I would have to list another hundred apps I have. Point is, these apps are identical or 99% identical to iOS apps. And I would know, since I use both OS's every single day, and cnstantly checking and updating from both app stores, plus cydia. Peace.

The last time I compared apps with an Android user who jihad the Rezound, he indeed had many of the same apps I did. He had no alternative for many of my favorite games, my photography or video apps, and a bunch of my favorite niche apps, but as you said he did have many of the mainstream apps.

However, as soon as I said, "Oh cool, you have that app too, let's open it on both phones and see how it compares." he ran into problems.

In some cases the app just didn't open. It immediately force closed.

In other cases, the app opened, but didn't have all of the features.

In other cases, the app opened, but the formatting was way off, and the app just didn't look good.

In other cases (Real Racing 2 notably), the app seemed to run perfectly, but would randomly freeze for 5 seconds every minute or so.

In other cases, (Grand Theft Auto 3 notably) the app ran, but had frame rate issues.

In other cases, he opened the app, but it apparently didn't finish installing and started downloading the rest of the app. Unfortunately, he was running out of space on his internal drive, and had to mess with some "install this app to my external disk" app, but didn't want to take the time.

I asked him if he could get a specific app I had, and he said he could, but he'd have to go inside and mess with some config files to get it to install.

So sure, if we were comparing a checklist of apps, he would have checked the majority of mainstream apps I have, but that doesn't tell the full story.

superdudeo
Jun 22, 2012, 10:32 AM
If you're going to quote the super-expensive price of the unlocked iPhone that 99.99% of people will never consider buying, you could at least mention that. :D

Nice to see that Orange offers several plans with the iPhone 4s is free (which you never see in the US), and seven other plans where the iPhone 4s is significantly less than US$199, which is about the cheapest you'll ever see it on this side of the pond.

What? You think you're actually paying $200 for the phone? Over the course of your - most likely - 2 year contract, you'll be paying around $1000 for it. You're the mug, not the people who pay for it unlocked.

Lindenhurst
Jun 22, 2012, 10:34 AM
i can't really see why anyone would switch from a 4S to an android phone.

i could see going from a 3GS to a new android device or even a 4, just to give the platform a try... but an iPhone 4S to any android phone at the moment... even the brand new one, is going to be about a lateral move.

I do believe that most who switch just want a screen larger than the current iPhone's screen. Screen size may not be an issue for you, but many do just want a larger screened device. That in itself was enough to get me to try Android, and after 4 months now on my Galaxy Note, I no longer see any advantage to IOS and the iPhone. I do sometimes miss the smaller size of the iPhone when I need a device small enough to be pocketed comfortably, but for the day to day things I use the phone for, the larger screen suits my needs. I'm sure each point I made could be refuted by someone who prefers an Apple iPhone. It is great to have choices. Competition is good.

If Apple made an iPhone with a 4.3" screen or larger, I would be back, but I doubt they will.

SurferMan
Jun 22, 2012, 11:09 AM
The last time I compared apps with an Android user who jihad the Rezound, he indeed had many of the same apps I did. He had no alternative for many of my favorite games, my photography or video apps, and a bunch of my favorite niche apps, but as you said he did have many of the mainstream apps.

However, as soon as I said, "Oh cool, you have that app too, let's open it on both phones and see how it compares." he ran into problems.

In some cases the app just didn't open. It immediately force closed.

In other cases, the app opened, but didn't have all of the features.

In other cases, the app opened, but the formatting was way off, and the app just didn't look good.

In other cases (Real Racing 2 notably), the app seemed to run perfectly, but would randomly freeze for 5 seconds every minute or so.

In other cases, (Grand Theft Auto 3 notably) the app ran, but had frame rate issues.

In other cases, he opened the app, but it apparently didn't finish installing and started downloading the rest of the app. Unfortunately, he was running out of space on his internal drive, and had to mess with some "install this app to my external disk" app, but didn't want to take the time.

I asked him if he could get a specific app I had, and he said he could, but he'd have to go inside and mess with some config files to get it to install.

So sure, if we were comparing a checklist of apps, he would have checked the majority of mainstream apps I have, but that doesn't tell the full story.I've had this phone for almost 10 months and only had 1 force close which was Facebook, and Chrome beta the other day froze but I had a ton of tabs open doing different things and looks like a site itself had an error that caused it no different then a site causing hanging on a computer browser, but it restarted and reloaded all my tabs for me. No problems with games either that seem to cause issues on other devices for whatever reason. maybe it's just this phone???, I've always said the i777 felt the most sorted and smooth to me, and with the custom ICS Rom now it's insane especially with the crazy good battery life. I've always had safari crashing on the iphones like a mofo, springboard crashing (actually moreso non-jailbroken than jailbroken go figure), app's crashing and freezing, random lags when typing through out a day etc. About 80% of my employee's have iPhones either provided through my business account b/c of our discount, or their own and we transfer service. See plenty of issues there from crashing, freezing, glitches with exchange etc. The rest have Androids or Blackberries sure some issues here and there but not as much as the iPhones, and only 1 BB had to be replaced. With that said, I still hate BB with a passion and cannot stand their UI or much bragged about keyboard lol, the phones feel so outdated and clumsy to use, but oh well it's their choice ha.

Frankied22
Jun 22, 2012, 11:14 AM
What? You think you're actually paying $200 for the phone? Over the course of your - most likely - 2 year contract, you'll be paying around $1000 for it. You're the mug, not the people who pay for it unlocked.

But if you're paying the same per month as if you had got the phone on contract, like in the US, how are you paying more for the phone? I always consider buying unlocked but being in the US and not traveling to other countries, I don't see the point. Sure I could switch carriers when I want and upgrade when I want, but the main carriers in the US all suck and cost about the same in the end. And if a new phone comes out that I want then I'm just spending another $600+ on another unlocked phone. What's the difference between that and just paying the ETF and getting the new phone on contract?

mbell1975
Jun 22, 2012, 11:15 AM
Speaking of apps crashing. Just sayin....


http://mashable.com/2012/02/04/ios-apps-crash-more-than-android/

LostSoul80
Jun 22, 2012, 11:30 AM
I love hearing from people that like to claim they know what's in the Android Marketplace aka Google Play, when they have never used an Android phone to know and if they have, it was "several years ago".

Just remember that people with poor self esteem are not a reliable source of information. Ignore them and all will be fine.

Hype2k2
Jun 22, 2012, 11:43 AM
Take a look at the Apple UK store and you'll find the iPhone is 499 and up. Stop making stuff up? :rolleyes:

Don't make up stories of people outside of America, we know it's not true.

sk1wbw
Jun 22, 2012, 11:53 AM
Since we all know that Android was the first cell phone in existence and Apple stole everything from it, right down to the phone keypad complete with numbers and letters on each button, can we move on, please?

chiefpavvy
Jun 22, 2012, 12:24 PM
Since we all know that Android was the first cell phone in existence and Apple stole everything from it, right down to the phone keypad complete with numbers and letters on each button, can we move on, please?

Awesome. :D :D :D

Dun Properly
Jun 22, 2012, 12:46 PM
My 4S hasn't even had a hiccup during the 6 months or so I have owned it. It has been flawless. The same certainly can't be said about my 2 previous Android phones (G1 and Galaxy S Vibrant).

This is why I will continue to purchases Apple phones.

Disclaimer: I don't own any other Apple products besides a few ipods.

blackhand1001
Jun 22, 2012, 01:02 PM
I am disappointed. So much so that I am hungering for an iphone.

1) Its not necessarily the software. Because android and many will agree with this is much more advanced than iOS 5 and 6. Many pro's have acknowledged that. I somewhat agree with that. Its easier to use, its customizable, better integrated with google services, best navigation in town, flexible, you are not stuck in an ecosystem where you'd have to abide by the rules, more secure than ios imo, kinetic scrolling makes it more fluid than ios (surprise! I said it).

But most apps just suck and there is hardly any choice for apps. On iphone I got tons of games, I'll never get bored. And there is just tons of other apps. You'll never have to worry about a service not being supported on your iphone cause every mother and all is developing for iOS. And the stuff in Google Play is just junk. 90% of the apps has ads, tracks my phone calls, my address book, wants full internet access. Thats just malware. Why does angry birds want to know who I am calling, for how long and who are in my contacts. They are just going to sell this data to third parties.

2) The hardware. I switched to the HTC One S because I wanted to have a bigger screen and the HOS is made out of an aluminum unibody. But the build quality just is not there. Reception sucks. Battery on the iphone is much better than on the HTC One S. There are seams and holes everywhere where dust builds up. Cheap use of plastics even though it has an aluminum unibody. The screen of the iphone is much sharper. Although its smaller, I still get more real estate when web browsing compared to the HOS.

I don't think you can blame the reception on the phone. It looks like you switched carriers to t mobile and they might have poor reception in your area. Poor reception drain battery much much faster on any phone. That explains those two problems. The real estate thing is because you using a 960x540 pentile display. If you had used the at&t one x you may have had a better experience.

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Android it years ahead of iOS. 99% of the new features you are getting in iOS 6 have been available on Android since 4.0 even some as far back as 2.3... LOL,

LOL most are from like version 1.0 and 1.6 lol.

DodgeV83
Jun 22, 2012, 02:16 PM
LOL most are from like version 1.0 and 1.6 lol.

And my Windows Mobile phone from 2006 can do all of the above, doesn't mean I want to use it :p

mbell1975
Jun 22, 2012, 02:52 PM
And my Windows Mobile phone from 2006 can do all of the above, doesn't mean I want to use it :p

So you expect us to believe your Treo 700 running Magento could do everything an Android phone running Donut could do? LMAO :rolleyes:

DodgeV83
Jun 22, 2012, 04:36 PM
So you expect us to believe your Treo 700 running Magento could do everything an Android phone running Donut could do? LMAO :rolleyes:

Hey, maybe I'm wrong, but all the features discussed here (attaching files to emails, turn by turn directions, multi-tasking, task manager, widgets, custom home screen, lock screen notifications, custom ROMs, call blocking, tethering, streaming music while getting turn by turn directions and attaching a song to an email from my external memory card...etc, I was doing in 2005 on my HTC Apache, sold as the PPC-6700 on Sprint.

It even had flash and let me download YouTube videos directly to the device :)

mrsir2009
Jun 22, 2012, 04:41 PM
500? I paid $199 US for mine. The same cost as the best Android handset that was out at that time. Stop making stuff up.

Not everyone buys their phone on a contract...

sarcosis
Jun 22, 2012, 05:14 PM
Not everyone buys their phone on a contract...

I would say the vast majority do though. That and the plans are the same price if you buy subsidized or unsubsidized. I'm not going to dump the service, so I might as well get a nice price cut on the phone. I could go prepaid, but my AT&T service has been good so far so i'm sticking with them.

mrsir2009
Jun 22, 2012, 09:43 PM
I would say the vast majority do though. That and the plans are the same price if you buy subsidized or unsubsidized. I'm not going to dump the service, so I might as well get a nice price cut on the phone. I could go prepaid, but my AT&T service has been good so far so i'm sticking with them.

The vast majority in the USA... It's A bit different overseas tho

LIVEFRMNYC
Jun 22, 2012, 10:31 PM
Hey, maybe I'm wrong, but all the features discussed here (attaching files to emails, turn by turn directions, multi-tasking, task manager, widgets, custom home screen, lock screen notifications, custom ROMs, call blocking, tethering, streaming music while getting turn by turn directions and attaching a song to an email from my external memory card...etc, I was doing in 2005 on my HTC Apache, sold as the PPC-6700 on Sprint.

It even had flash and let me download YouTube videos directly to the device :)

Yup, that was back when non touch screen phones running WM were called smartphones and touch screen phones were called pocket pcs. The Treo 750 and Imate SP-5 were my two favorites. And when I say they did everything, they did everything. With the exception of gaming like today's phones.

aristobrat
Jun 26, 2012, 02:27 PM
What? You think you're actually paying $200 for the phone?
FWIW, at least if you're on a major carrier that sells iPhones in the US, the answer is "yes". They don't give discounts on monthly service to customers that paid full price for unlocked devices.

phpmaven
Jun 26, 2012, 04:38 PM
OP: I felt the same way when I went from the 4S to an Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's GS2) and then back to my current 4S a month later. Not sure what I was thinking then...

...and the thing is I had two Android phones before the iPhone...

I went from a iPhone 4 to the Epic Touch 4G and I've really haven't been happy with it until I just recently flashed the ROM with the leaked near complete version of ICS that Sprint is going to release to users. It's like a completely new phone. It's way more smooth and reliable. I like it a lot more now and may not switch back to the iPhone 5 as I planned, especially if Apple is actually going to release a phone that's just taller for some insane reason.

i can't really see why anyone would switch from a 4S to an android phone.

i could see going from a 3GS to a new android device or even a 4, just to give the platform a try... but an iPhone 4S to any android phone at the moment... even the brand new one, is going to be about a lateral move.

Perhaps they're tired of using a phone with such a dinky washed out screen?
That's why I switched.

bt2184
Jun 26, 2012, 05:12 PM
I've tried Android now with my work phone, GSII and I much prefer my 4S. I even un-jail broke my iPhone and still like it better. Screen responds better, the OS is smoother and renders things properly. Emails on the Galaxy don't fit on the screen and slide about badly when I try to see it all.

If there was no iPhone then Android would be incredible. The Galaxy has ICS and I can't see the fuss. The settings are very basic compared to IOS.

The best thing about Android is the Swype text input. That does work really well.

You should give swift key a try, blows Swype out of the water.

batting1000
Jun 26, 2012, 05:17 PM
I went from a iPhone 4 to the Epic Touch 4G and I've really haven't been happy with it until I just recently flashed the ROM with the leaked near complete version of ICS that Sprint is going to release to users. It's like a completely new phone. It's way more smooth and reliable. I like it a lot more now and may not switch back to the iPhone 5 as I planned, especially if Apple is actually going to release a phone that's just taller for some insane reason.

I did the same thing as well. I loaded each leak up until the first few FE builds at which point I switched back to the 4S. I can say I liked the experience a lot more than EL29, but I just felt iOS was for me more.

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Perhaps they're tired of using a phone with such a dinky washed out screen?
That's why I switched.

I wouldn't say it's washed out, but rather the colors are less pronounced when compared to a Super AMOLED display.

phpmaven
Jun 29, 2012, 08:58 AM
I did the same thing as well. I loaded each leak up until the first few FE builds at which point I switched back to the 4S. I can say I liked the experience a lot more than EL29, but I just felt iOS was for me more.

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I wouldn't say it's washed out, but rather the colors are less pronounced when compared to a Super AMOLED display.

Well, I can't comment on the first few leaked builds as I was afraid to try them. The one I installed was one that just came out that is supposed to be pretty much what Samsung is going to release soon. It's rock solid and I like it a lot.

As far as the iPhone screen issue. After I used the Epic touch foe a week or so and then used one of my friends iPhones, that was my first thought. "This screen looks so dinky and washed out".

I may still come back to the iPhone if the next version is worth it. If Apple ends up actually just making the phone taller, I will probably pass. What a stupid idea. :rolleyes:

jojoba
Jun 29, 2012, 09:06 AM
Meh. I have an android phone and an iPad and use both ios and android every day. I can find 99% of the apps on both platforms and they virtually look and work the same.

This is my experience, too. For my purposes, google play has all the apps I need and they work fine for me.

You should give swift key a try, blows Swype out of the water.

Swift key is the number one reason why I will not switch to iPhone. I just will not take the time to type out every word when Swift Key will write 70% for me on my android. The second reason is the screen size, I like my mobile screen to be slightly bigger. If I could have those two things in an iPhone, I'd consider switching.

Calidude
Jun 29, 2012, 09:13 AM
On iphone I got tons of games, I'll never get bored.
This is where I stopped reading. How old are you? :confused: