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Jobsian
Jun 23, 2012, 07:46 AM
The popularity in past threads has been extremely close in some of the polls I've seen, almost a 50-50 split, indicating Apple got their market research spot on.

Now that they're out, I wonder what the split on this forum is.



mattopotamus
Jun 23, 2012, 07:51 AM
The popularity in past threads has been extremely close in some of the polls I've seen, almost a 50-50 split, indicating Apple got their market research spot on.

Now that they're out, I wonder what the split on this forum is.

based on what i have been reading, i think it will be 50/50 again....good poll though.

Sounds Good
Jun 23, 2012, 09:42 AM
It'll be pretty darn close to 50/50 every time. Maybe 55/45.

Smartie
Jun 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
I got the 13" because this will be our households only computer (except the ones we have for work) and thus the screen size was important. Portability not so much, only for vacations and then we can handle the extra pound.

KPOM
Jun 24, 2012, 12:45 AM
Wow. So far it's about 75/25 for the 13". I'm guessing it will eventually even out.

dkersten
Jun 24, 2012, 12:46 AM
I'm going with an 11in because I am pairing it with a Thunderbolt Display and also have a custom built windows desktop at my disposal. I was really looking for portability

intervenient
Jun 24, 2012, 01:08 AM
13. Have an 11. Too small for a daily driver.

Zzari
Jun 24, 2012, 01:26 AM
Originally planned on getting the 13" but fell in love with the form factor of 11". The screen really isn't that bad - I really like the high PPI. I have a 13 MBP and 27 iMac, so the 11 Air is by no means my main computer, and I figured having a 13 Air and 13 MBP would be redundant.

Ended up purchasing the 11" i7/8GB/256GB today and it's awesome :) Going out of town for 2 weeks starting Monday, so I plan on giving it a "test run!" Hopefully it doesn't disappoint!

tdhurst
Jun 24, 2012, 01:26 AM
Wanted to go super portable.

Was worried it would be too small.

the 11.6" is just right for me.

Probably not for anyone that doesn't do as much simple reading and writing as I do, though.

Jobsian
Jun 24, 2012, 02:01 AM
Totally in love with the 11" form factor too, when carrying it around it's barely noticeable.

This poll so far is a whitewash for the 13" buyers. Where are you 11"ers!

kierennyc
Jun 24, 2012, 02:49 AM
I got the 2012 11' (i7, 8GB ram, 256GB SSD) and I love it - Its now my main machine.

For a few days I contemplated taking it back for a 13', but I decided the smaller screen is fine for my needs (web/email/media) and that the added portability make it the perfect grab and go computer.

norneDK
Jun 24, 2012, 04:16 AM
I'm also getting the 11". Coming from an iBook 12" as my first portable Mac, I really found it a bit of a shame that they increased the screen size to 13". The 12" was ideal and followed me everywhere.

The MacBook G4 was also fine, but for some reason my current MBP 13" (2010) doesn't get out much. I don't know why it seems so heavy? I've been resisting the new iPad and still use my original iPad for Flipboard etc.

The 11" is going to be a more productive portable than the iPad, and I can't wait to use it for traveling, libraries, coffee shops etc. Wish I'd had one during my studies, but I waited for the new version (8/128) and this one will be my graduation gift instead.

Sack
Jun 24, 2012, 08:52 AM
I ordered (and am still waiting on) the 13". Portability is a very important factor, but since I'm coming from a 15" HP laptop, the 13" MBA will already be a huge step up.

KPOM
Jun 24, 2012, 09:17 AM
Totally in love with the 11" form factor too, when carrying it around it's barely noticeable.

This poll so far is a whitewash for the 13" buyers. Where are you 11"ers!

Right here. I switched to the 11" with the 2010 model and haven't looked back. Of course, I do have a work notebook with a 14" screen (an aging Core 2 Duo with a 5400rpm HDD), but I would gladly use either the 11" or 13" Air at the office if I could.

petsk
Jun 24, 2012, 09:18 AM
Went with 11"/128GB/8GB, moving down from a 15" high res MBP. Lets see how it goes when I get the Air next week :)

andrepelly
Jun 24, 2012, 09:26 AM
Went with 11"/128GB/8GB, moving down from a 15" high res MBP. Lets see how it goes when I get the Air next week :)

same here.
Let's go 11ers!

RodPinto
Jun 24, 2012, 09:30 AM
I'm going with A 11, i7/8/256! Coming from a mbp 15 2010! Loving the portability/power!

Acorn
Jun 24, 2012, 09:59 AM
I chose 13 this time and glad i did. I had an 11 inch 2010 mac air and it was just ok. the 13 really isnt much bigger to me to handle then the 11 so. im enjoying the 13 way more and love the extra battery life.

RodPinto
Jun 24, 2012, 10:14 AM
I chose 13 this time and glad i did. I had an 11 inch 2010 mac air and it was just ok. the 13 really isnt much bigger to me to handle then the 11 so. im enjoying the 13 way more and love the extra battery life.

You're wrong! The 11 inch is much better! I feel sorry for you!

Sounds Good
Jun 24, 2012, 11:27 AM
I chose 13 this time and glad i did. I had an 11 inch 2010 mac air and it was just ok. the 13 really isnt much bigger to me to handle then the 11 so. im enjoying the 13 way more and love the extra battery life.

Good to hear. I think I'm going with the 13" :)

glen e
Jun 24, 2012, 11:41 AM
I had an 11 and now a 12 11".....the 12 is faster but the 11 was fast enuf for my msoffice and YouTube. I just like buying new stuff...bad addiction....

lls4f
Jun 24, 2012, 11:48 AM
I got the 13in. I've had it for almost a week now. I don't even notice the difference in screen size from my old computer, which was a 14in dell, because of how much better everything looks on this computer. Super happy with the 13, and can definitely see myself using this in grad school happily without an external monitor.

Higgs1
Jun 24, 2012, 12:11 PM
Originally got a 13/i7/8/256. Just returned it yesterday, waiting for my 11/i7/8/512 to ship!!!

RocketRed
Jun 24, 2012, 12:28 PM
i like my 13-inch.

11-inch is just too small for me.

mikeray
Jun 24, 2012, 12:35 PM
Originally got a 13/i7/8/256. Just returned it yesterday, waiting for my 11/i7/8/512 to ship!!!

That's the 11" config I am getting! Amazing how the 11" airs can have these reasonable specs now. I was waiting for this to happen!!

I have a 27" Cinema Display (the older non-thunderboldt version), and I am wishing/hoping this will feel just like a desktop when plugged in.

iBrody
Jun 24, 2012, 12:43 PM
Went with 11"/128GB/8GB, moving down from a 15" high res MBP. Lets see how it goes when I get the Air next week :)

I am contemplating selling my hi-res 15" mbp for an 11" mba too.

Can you let me know how you get on please? Mainly with regard to the text size and whether text is similarly sized.

I also intend on purchasing a thunderbolt display to pair with the mba once the thunderbolt display changes to USB3 and magsafe 2 (I assume it is still currently USB2 with the original magsafe connector?).

RodPinto
Jun 24, 2012, 01:03 PM
Originally got a 13/i7/8/256. Just returned it yesterday, waiting for my 11/i7/8/512 to ship!!!

You've just done the best thing in your life!

sanityinc
Jun 24, 2012, 01:09 PM
I'd guess that the purchases will be skewed towards the 13" model. Many potential 15" Macbook Pro buyers will be stepping down to the 13" MBA rather than up to the Retina machine, given the uncertain future of the regular 15 incher.

soulreaver99
Jun 24, 2012, 01:12 PM
i like my 13-inch.

11-inch is just too small for me.

that's what she said :rolleyes:

I got the 11 inch. Perfect size and more efficient.

kylera
Jun 24, 2012, 01:13 PM
I have a 13-inch high end with RAM upgrade coming my way. I went with the 13-inch because of the better battery life.

Higgs1
Jun 24, 2012, 01:32 PM
You've just done the best thing in your life!


Hope so! Only thing holding back inititially was battery life, but 4-5hrs is good enough for me, plus I'm never too far away from an outlet to juice back up.

floyd000
Jun 24, 2012, 02:46 PM
13 in for me. My brother has the 11 in and found it too small to work on. He primarily uses for Facebook and web surfing while watching tv. I will use mine for actual work. And I am old so I need the bigger screen. Coming down from a Lenovo brick will be nice progress for me. Extra battery life is a consideration too.

Cicatrix
Jun 24, 2012, 03:57 PM
13. Have an 11. Too small for a daily driver.

right here.

petsk
Jun 25, 2012, 09:43 AM
Can you let me know how you get on please? Mainly with regard to the text size and whether text is similarly sized

Sure! I haven't received the air yet but the gui and text should be a tiny bit smaller on the air. The difference should be very small because the 11" Air is 135 PPI vs 128 PPI on the 15" Pro high res. Almost the same!

What concerns me more is the 11" screen wish won't fit much content :P But I have a cinema display wish I plan to hook up while watching movies or tv. ACD and TBD are still on magesafe v1 (and USB2.0, I guess).

Creek0512
Jun 25, 2012, 10:41 AM
I got my 2012 11" last week. When I first started using it, the screen didn't seem any smaller than my previous 13" MacBook. However, after having the Air for a few days, I went back to my old MacBook to get some files to move to the new Air and I was like, when did this computer get so big and how come all the icons are so large, also why is it suddenly so slow? Haha, all relative of course and proving that ignorance is bliss and you really can't go back.

tdhurst
Jun 25, 2012, 10:43 AM
I got my 2012 11" last week. When I first started using it, the screen didn't seem any smaller than my previous 13" MacBook. However, after having the Air for a few days, I went back to my old MacBook to get some files to move to the new Air and I was like, when did this computer get so big and how come all the icons are so large, also why is it suddenly so slow? Haha, all relative of course and proving that ignorance is bliss and you really can't go back.

Both my wife and I had 2011 13" MBPs, but I sold mine to also upgrade to an 11" MBA last week.

After updating some apps and backing up her machine last night, the extra seconds it took to do anything killed me.

I will never again be able to use a computer without an SSD drive.

Reha
Jun 25, 2012, 10:52 AM
Still waiting for my 11" 2.0/8/512 ... The status switched from "preparing for shipment" back to "processing item" again :(

3bs
Jun 25, 2012, 10:58 AM
Still waiting for my 11/i7/8/512. Upgrading from late 2010 11" ultimate.


Still waiting for my 11" 2.0/8/512 ... The status switched from "preparing for shipment" back to "processing item" again :(

Ultimate too I see :D
Can't wait to get my hands on mine!

Moshu
Jun 25, 2012, 11:00 AM
Got 13 due to longer battery life, Card reader and because I can do some software programming on it without an external monitor (unlike the 11);

Great product!

jameswdmb
Jun 25, 2012, 12:34 PM
In retrospect I could get by with an 11'', but only because I have a Thunderbolt display at home. The killer for me is the battery life....thats the only thing that would still push me to a 13"

palpatine
Jun 25, 2012, 12:47 PM
11". Been wanting this for years. Timing was perfect, the specs matched my needs, and I sold my 13" MBP to pay for the upgrade. I love it so far. This might end up being my last computer. I get too much work done on the iPad nowadays, and I think I might end up moving over to that completely after a few more iterations.

Joedesi
Jun 25, 2012, 02:58 PM
Started out dead set on the 13". After spending time on this forum and thinking about what I'd really be using the MBA for ( ms word, email, web surfing ) went for the 11". Took ages to decide btw screen size. I think we are now part of the iPad generation...we really do care about form and function...so for me the 11" MBA came out a winner. Bto spec is i5/8/128.

Awaiting delivery......

MrWazanskii
Jun 25, 2012, 05:05 PM
Originally planned to buy a MBPr but quickly changed my mind. Ended up with Air 13" i7/8/256. Sexier and more portable ;)

ixodes
Jun 25, 2012, 05:18 PM
Size is such a personal preference, I'd ignore the reports here. The best approach in my opinion would be to go to an Apple store or Best Buy so you can see for yourself.

Unable to decide, I bought both. Mainly because I tend to travel a lot and the 11" is a nice fit on a tray table when flying internationally. Only in close quarters like that do I notice a difference, since the 13" is only one inch wider and a bit deeper.

The 13" is more well balanced for using it on uneven or soft surfaces. It's far easier to use than the 11". Between being so small and light, it can be a little unstable and annoying. That's not to say there's anything wrong with that size, it's just my experience.

If I were to keep just one, it would be the 13" hands down. No hesitation.

jksu
Jun 25, 2012, 09:34 PM
Wirelessly posted

have 2010 11" and love it. but getting a 2012 13" for more battery and screen size -

and for it to feel more like an upgrade. otherwise for my uses, not a huge jump 2010 to 2012.

rohizzle121
Jun 27, 2012, 01:31 AM
was thinking about the rmbp but decided on a fully suped macbook air, specs are i7/8gb/512 (to replace my 2011 Macbook air)

tim100
Jul 5, 2012, 10:24 PM
13 by a lot in this poll

asting
Jul 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
I used a dell mini 10v for too long to switch to an 11". The extra res has made navigating photoshop, and even general use much better.

dmelgar
Jul 5, 2012, 11:24 PM
I was at my local Apple store today and surprised to overhear multiple sales people discouraging customers from buying the 11". They said it was too close in size to the iPad. They encouraged getting a 13" & iPad.

I have an iPad3 & still love my 11" MBA.

tim100
Jul 6, 2012, 08:01 AM
I was at my local Apple store today and surprised to overhear multiple sales people discouraging customers from buying the 11". They said it was too close in size to the iPad. They encouraged getting a 13" & iPad.

I have an iPad3 & still love my 11" MBA.

surprised to here that

Deeps
Jul 6, 2012, 08:07 AM
Went from a 2011 13" MBP to the 13" MBA.

the MBP had an SSD and 8GB Ram but was feeling heavy when in my backpack on my push bike.

MBA is half the weight and can't tell I've got in in the backpack!

MagicThief83
Jul 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
that's what she said :rolleyes:

I got the 11 inch. Perfect size and more efficient.

She said that as well! :p

Wokis
Jul 7, 2012, 12:19 PM
Ordered the 13-inch. But it was really hard for me to choose. Originally I even put an order on the 11-incher but backed out.

First off, I've had a 1366x768 display before. (On a 15-incher, myah!) The PPI on it on a 11-inch screen is CERTAINLY ok but I know how much screen-estate it will be in applications such as Adobe After Effects and I know I will come to find it annoying. The small bump up in resolution on the 13-incher will make some difference here, I believe.

Second off I want the expandability that comes with an SD-card slot. An SSD upgrade costs a ton, and my portable video/music/document library won't benefit much from the speed. Now I just need to wait until November and then I'll hopefully have the "Nifty Minidrive" + 64GB Micro SDXC.

And third I believe the battery of the 11-incher won't survive my work day.

In the end the 11-incher's size wasn't enough of a reason for me, although very tempting. I can certainly see and understand the rather big niche that values the smaller footprint, though.

Jobsian
Jul 8, 2012, 08:49 AM
Wow, this year is a lot more lopsided towards the 13" than last year's. I wonder if actual sales reflect this.

Dangerous Theory
Jul 8, 2012, 09:09 AM
I wonder if anyone has moved from a 17" MBP to a11" air :P that would be quite a radical change.

Nychot
Jul 8, 2012, 09:26 AM
the 13 is THE perfect size. the 11 is is too delicate and the screen is too small for any real work or for even surfing. i can see a college kid using it for notes etc and a business guy who is on the road all the time. but for someone with aging eyes who does a lot of writing, it's perfect. moreover, it is SO light weight. i even have an m-cover on it and it adds nothing. i sold my 2011 mbp for the 2012 air and what a difference. the 13" mbp isn't even really portable. at 4.5 lbs or whatever it is it's very heavy to lug around. one caveat. i could really see the 11 inch mba replacing my iPad 3 down the road UNLESS apple does bring out the 7.85" iPad as rumored.

tim100
Jul 8, 2012, 09:39 AM
Wow, this year is a lot more lopsided towards the 13" than last year's. I wonder if actual sales reflect this.

last gen this poll was near even. wonder what happened this year?

tim100
Jul 11, 2012, 08:44 AM
interesting poll results:

what led 11 inch buyers to pick to over the 13?

why are the 11 results lower than last year?

anton1s
Jul 11, 2012, 08:53 AM
got the 13" with 256 SSD and 8GR Ram @ 2.0GHz

AppleSticker54
Jul 11, 2012, 11:52 AM
got the 13" with 256 SSD and 8GR Ram @ 2.0GHz

I got the same as well and love every inch and every gig! I couldn't imagine using the 11" - the 13" is purrrr-fect for me!

mattopotamus
Jul 11, 2012, 12:08 PM
interesting poll results:

what led 11 inch buyers to pick to over the 13?

why are the 11 results lower than last year?

For me, I went with the 11" over the 13" b.c I mostly use my computer when sitting in bed or sitting on the couch. The size difference is very noticeable in these positions. When I am at work, I use a windows desktop and when at home I do simple task or will use airplay (ML). I feel like the smaller size is perfect for me and the screen does not bother me. I like 16:9 (11") vs 16:10 (13")

BlueOcean
Jul 11, 2012, 12:16 PM
Wow, this year is a lot more lopsided towards the 13" than last year's. I wonder if actual sales reflect this.

I'd imagine so. The thing is, 13" is a balance of portability with a screen large enough to make daily use relatively comfortable. The 11" is really only going to appeal to people who need the utmost portability. I'd image the average consumer going for the 13" every time.

Paperpusher
Jul 11, 2012, 01:00 PM
Went with the 13"/i7/8/256 myself.

I am however happy that I stopped by the local Apple store to get some hands on experience on both the 11" and 13" before deciding.

On paper and pictures online the 11" seems like a total winner. However, the screen real estate and battery life was the deciding factor for me. The MBA will be my only computer and be used at home with an external monitor but also at lenghty times at university reading papers, assignments, articles, and so on.

In general I'd advice everyone deciding between both to spend a few hours at the Apple store.

Pp.

Kevin Rohrer
Jul 12, 2012, 02:12 PM
I bought the an Air for book writing, and I went w/ the 13" due to its taller display. And a longer battery life also doesn't hurt. The 11" is cute, but less servicable for what I want it for.

Zzari
Jul 12, 2012, 03:06 PM
Originally bought the 11" i7/8/256 but returned it after two weeks. Form factor was amazing, but I found the real estate too small to be truly productive. Just ordered the 13" i7/8/256 yesterday and it should be arriving within a week or so. Looking forward to the added real estate and battery life!

tim100
Jul 12, 2012, 05:38 PM
Originally bought the 11" i7/8/256 but returned it after two weeks. Form factor was amazing, but I found the real estate too small to be truly productive. Just ordered the 13" i7/8/256 yesterday and it should be arriving within a week or so. Looking forward to the added real estate and battery life!

was the 11 mba your only machine, did you have a desktop?

RightMACatU
Jul 12, 2012, 06:11 PM
Have been using a 13" at work and when I order mine (as soon as the Mountain Lion comes out of its cave) 13" it will be. 11" is not a functional ultrabook for Word processing and medium to large spreadsheets (IMO).

Zzari
Jul 12, 2012, 06:49 PM
was the 11 mba your only machine, did you have a desktop?

I have a 27" iMac, 13" MBP, iPad 2, and a Windows desktop (for gaming). The MBA was primarily for taking out to places (coffee shops, traveling, etc.). I found the screen too small to really get anything done, and found myself hunching over the computer resulting in usage of >1hr being uncomfortable.

arbitrage
Jul 12, 2012, 09:35 PM
I upgraded my 2010 11" to a new 2012 11". I also bought a RMBP at the same time. If I hadn't decided to get the pro as my main laptop, then I probably would have just got the 13" Air maxed out and used that both at home and while travelling.

I will usually take the 11" Air travelling when heading to countries that I'm moving around a lot like when I've been through S. America and when I will be heading to SE Asia next year. I will bring the 15" RMBP when I'm heading somewhere like a mexican resort or a cruise when I don't care how light the thing is. Best of both worlds but I think the 13" Air could have worked equally well as an "all in one" as it is a really nice size with a much more useable screen size but still a really thin and light package. I use my macs mostly for photo editing and then just normal browsing of the internet. The new 11" has greatly improved the speed of LightRoom over the 2010 version but using the RMBP is just in another league.

nikot
Jul 13, 2012, 12:25 AM
Purchased a 13" i5, 256gb, 4gb ram. It's the quickest or most instant computer I've ever used. It's replacing a custom gaming rig from 09', and a 2010 2.4ghz i5 MBP.

I've found that my primary need these days is portability, and I haven't actually used the desktop in months. Because of this I've ordered a 13" i7, 8gb ram. Returning the i5 because I figured I might as well max it out since it's going to be my primary.

Uguubot
Jul 13, 2012, 12:36 AM
I am going to be going with the 13 inch when I get the cash. I have an iPad, and iPhone, and a desktop (PC.). 3.5 inches, 9 inches, 13 inches, and 21 inches seems like a healthy balance of screens to waste my life looking at.

entatlrg
Jul 13, 2012, 12:49 AM
I upgraded my 2010 11" to a new 2012 11". I also bought a RMBP at the same time. If I hadn't decided to get the pro as my main laptop, then I probably would have just got the 13" Air maxed out and used that both at home and while travelling.

I will usually take the 11" Air travelling when heading to countries that I'm moving around a lot like when I've been through S. America and when I will be heading to SE Asia next year. I will bring the 15" RMBP when I'm heading somewhere like a mexican resort or a cruise when I don't care how light the thing is. Best of both worlds but I think the 13" Air could have worked equally well as an "all in one" as it is a really nice size with a much more useable screen size but still a really thin and light package. I use my macs mostly for photo editing and then just normal browsing of the internet. The new 11" has greatly improved the speed of LightRoom over the 2010 version but using the RMBP is just in another league.

I also thought hard about whether to go with the 13" as my only machine but ended up buying the rMBP as well. Now I'm deciding which Air I'll get for travel.

I've owned both 11 and 13" before and this time I think I may go for the 13". I'll likely spend a lot of hours with it and will benefit from the larger screen and added battery life, although I'm sure going to miss the 11" form factor.

tim100
Jul 13, 2012, 10:29 PM
I upgraded my 2010 11" to a new 2012 11". I also bought a RMBP at the same time. If I hadn't decided to get the pro as my main laptop, then I probably would have just got the 13" Air maxed out and used that both at home and while travelling.

I will usually take the 11" Air travelling when heading to countries that I'm moving around a lot like when I've been through S. America and when I will be heading to SE Asia next year. I will bring the 15" RMBP when I'm heading somewhere like a mexican resort or a cruise when I don't care how light the thing is. Best of both worlds but I think the 13" Air could have worked equally well as an "all in one" as it is a really nice size with a much more useable screen size but still a really thin and light package. I use my macs mostly for photo editing and then just normal browsing of the internet. The new 11" has greatly improved the speed of LightRoom over the 2010 version but using the RMBP is just in another league.

i have been thinking of pairing an air with the rmbp. how do u like the 11 air

tim100
Jul 15, 2012, 09:04 PM
I also thought hard about whether to go with the 13" as my only machine but ended up buying the rMBP as well. Now I'm deciding which Air I'll get for travel.

I've owned both 11 and 13" before and this time I think I may go for the 13". I'll likely spend a lot of hours with it and will benefit from the larger screen and added battery life, although I'm sure going to miss the 11" form factor.

the 11 inch form factor is great. i wonder why the 11 inch has such a low percentage in the poll.

matbal
Jul 15, 2012, 10:07 PM
11" here. Had a 13" laptop but wanted something smaller for travelling. Pretty much got tired of taking my tablet and laptop whenever I went somewhere so after much research I figured the 11" Air was the best thing to replace both. Small enough to whip out and watch movies on the plane yet still a fully functional computer for when I reach my destination. Have an i7 desktop so the MBA is mainly for surfing the internet in various locations around the house and for travel.

J&JPolangin
Jul 15, 2012, 10:43 PM
...got a good deal on a "last unit" of a 2011 13" MBA and really like the screen resolution but still miss the 11" form factor...I'll gift this to a family member when the battery life on Haswell or after improves for the 11" units to the level of the current 13" units:D

Power Macintosh
Jul 16, 2012, 06:05 AM
Went from 27" iMac to 11" next week. We'll see how this works.

tim100
Jul 16, 2012, 08:41 PM
11" here. Had a 13" laptop but wanted something smaller for travelling. Pretty much got tired of taking my tablet and laptop whenever I went somewhere so after much research I figured the 11" Air was the best thing to replace both. Small enough to whip out and watch movies on the plane yet still a fully functional computer for when I reach my destination. Have an i7 desktop so the MBA is mainly for surfing the internet in various locations around the house and for travel.

do you miss the added screen of the 13?

matbal
Jul 17, 2012, 04:40 AM
do you miss the added screen of the 13?

Not at all, it took about a day to get used to but after that I love the size. If it was my primary computer it might be different, but for what I use it for it's perfect.

3bs
Jul 17, 2012, 06:51 AM
Purchased a 13" i5, 256gb, 4gb ram. It's the quickest or most instant computer I've ever used. It's replacing a custom gaming rig from 09', and a 2010 2.4ghz i5 MBP.

I've found that my primary need these days is portability, and I haven't actually used the desktop in months. Because of this I've ordered a 13" i7, 8gb ram. Returning the i5 because I figured I might as well max it out since it's going to be my primary.

Maxing out means even the SSD :p

Anlino
Jul 17, 2012, 06:56 AM
Went with the 13". I currently have a 15" MBP, and I felt that the jump from that to a 11" would be a little too strong. Also, I have my iPad when I want to go ultra portable.

tim100
Jul 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
i was at my local apple store and they only had 2 11inch mba on display all the rest were 13s. also the retina mbp where in the high traffic area.

IndianaSolo
Jul 25, 2012, 03:53 PM
Just ordered my 11"/8gb/128 from Apple.com. The Apple stores in my area didn't have that configuration in stock currently, so I just decided to order online today.

My 2007 15" MacBook Pro is getting its last upgrade (since it meets the minimum specs to run ML) to Mountain Lion and then I'm giving it to my Dad.

Should have it between next Wednesday and Friday, I can't wait.

tim100
Jul 26, 2012, 05:01 PM
it seems to me that the 11 inch mba is almost like the 17 mbp a few years ago, a niche market. the 13 inch notebook has gone mainstream and is killing off the larger desktop replacements and replacing the smaller netbooks.

tim100
Jul 29, 2012, 07:19 PM
Went with the 13". I currently have a 15" MBP, and I felt that the jump from that to a 11" would be a little too strong. Also, I have my iPad when I want to go ultra portable.

the ipad is similar in size to the 11 inch mba.

Anlino
Jul 31, 2012, 02:07 PM
the ipad is similar in size to the 11 inch mba.

Yeah, but iOS on iPad was built to be used on a 9.7 inch device.

vodkaPT
Jul 31, 2012, 02:13 PM
13.3''

I tried both and to be honest I "hate" the 11''. Several reasons:

-> The keys F1 F2 (...) are to small and to soft

-> The notebook is so small that is hard to write and on the break keep the hands on top of the pc, as I can do easily with the 13.3''.

-> 11'' smaller track pad area.

And finally, the screen area, can be the same, but is a huge difference in terns of comfort to see something in the 13'' or in the 11.''

Serious, I don't getter why the ppl who bought 11'' try so much to justify that 11'' is pretty much the same that 13, when is not.

However, despise this fact, the 11'' is also a lovely option, but not for me.

siphyn87
Aug 3, 2012, 05:44 AM
I just ordered an 11.6" i7 8GB ram 128 SSD Air. I'm coming from a 2010 13.3" Mbp. For those of you that returned your Air, to swap for a different model, what is apple's return policy on BTOs? Do you pay a restocking fee of any sorts? How many days do they give you to return it. I'm guessing I'll be happy with the 11", but I was just curious in case I decide to switch back to the 13". I still have a few days before I receive my Air.

ixodes
Aug 3, 2012, 05:50 AM
I got the 2012 11' (i7, 8GB ram, 256GB SSD) and I love it - Its now my main machine.

For a few days I contemplated taking it back for a 13', but I decided the smaller screen is fine for my needs (web/email/media) and that the added portability make it the perfect grab and go computer.

I laugh at myself. Couldn't decide. Bought both. Use both :)

A couple of short years ago, even the 13 would seem like a feather to carry.

Lunchb0x8
Aug 3, 2012, 05:52 AM
11" i7 8GB with 256 SSD... kinda thinking I should have gone 128 and bought an OWC 480GB...

wolfpuppies3
Aug 3, 2012, 07:17 AM
2.0GHz Intel Dual-Core Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB Flash Storage
Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
VGA Adapter 065-C0T9

It sings, and is more than twice faster than my 11" 4 GB Memory, 1.86 GHZ dual core i7, 256 GB SSD

bembol
Aug 3, 2012, 07:24 AM
Though I wanted and got the 13" I didn't exactly have a choice in other Specs since I bought it off kjiji (sealed).

I was planning to upgrade the RAM like I always do but I was told you can longer (DIY) upgrade the RAM. I'm happy with 4GB, as well as the 128GB. I have a Dropbox account with 75GB, got it with my Samsung Galaxy S3 & hTc One X and soon will have a 1TB USB 3.0 Western Digital My Passport.

edricfilho
Aug 3, 2012, 08:30 AM
At home my MBA 11" 2012 BTO (i7 / 8GB / 256 SSD) is a great desktop (w/ 27" Apple Cinema Display, Time Capsule for backup and an external HD for big files), and when I go out it is the ideal-sized computer I could ever need...

Cheers

Edric

Apple...
Aug 3, 2012, 10:17 AM
I like the 13", but my mom recently got a 11", and I must say it's not a bad size.

caoimhe
Aug 3, 2012, 12:23 PM
I laugh at myself. Couldn't decide. Bought both. Use both :)

So tempting if money permitted! Initially I wanted the 11 because I travel a lot... but then decided the extra 2 hour battery life was worth the extra size / weight. That was the determining factor for me.

Sech
Aug 3, 2012, 12:50 PM
Just ordered my 11"/8gb/128 from Apple.com. The Apple stores in my area didn't have that configuration in stock currently, so I just decided to order online today.



Funny, I did the same after returning my Retina MacBook Pro. Quite a jump between machines, but the portability of the 11inch won out after spending some time with my wife's Air, I know I made the wrong choice with the Retina. Cheers!

MikeSweden
Aug 3, 2012, 01:09 PM
I only use my Air 11". The "old" MB Pro 13 stands collecting dust right now. I love the Air 11 inch. the battery is no problem, the form factor is amazing and I dont miss the DVD. Get the 11 and dont look back. :)

venture
Aug 3, 2012, 01:33 PM
Very interesting thread - particularly to read the different use cases for 13" vs 11".

I currently have a rMBP and an 11" MBA...

I use to have a 13" MBP, but the screen real estate was too cramped for real work - not enough room for spreadsheets, not enough room for coding... I like it because of the small form factor for travel, meetings, and carrying to the coffee shop, but I just didn't like working on it.

I already knew I was going to switch to a 15" MBP - and the rMBP has been awesome for work... especially in 1920x1200 mode! And it works great for carrying to the coffee shop... but the 15" size is really not great for travel or carrying to meetings - it's not the weight, it's the size.

The 11" MBA fills the travel and daily carry-around laptop roll perfectly -- it has replaced my iPad for daily usage.... I can easily carry it around with me to meetings, while traveling - even packed it in my motorcycle for a 10 day western states tour.

tim100
Aug 3, 2012, 04:06 PM
does anyone know the percent market share for the 11 inch macbook air?

ixodes
Aug 3, 2012, 05:15 PM
So tempting if money permitted! Initially I wanted the 11 because I travel a lot... but then decided the extra 2 hour battery life was worth the extra size / weight. That was the determining factor for me.
I will say that if I had to choose just one, the 13 would be it.

That's the sweetest Mac in a long time. :)

tim100
Aug 3, 2012, 07:39 PM
I will say that if I had to choose just one, the 13 would be it.

That's the sweetest Mac in a long time. :)

did you consider pairing a retina macbook pro with a macbook air?

ixodes
Aug 3, 2012, 08:58 PM
did you consider pairing a retina macbook pro with a macbook air?

Yes, I pre-ordered a fully maxed out MBPr.

Just a day after receiving it, the article in iFixit was published. I was shocked to see how it was glued together, and in no way user upgradeable. While an engineering marvel, I find the direction Apple is going completely against my principles (sealed devices, and now computers).

If I kept it I would be voting with my money _for_ the migration away from a conventional style user serviceable laptop.

Not something I'm interested in doing at this point. Not only that, although the price is no object in my decision making, once again it's the principle of Apple moving us up market into $3,000 laptops just because they are obsessed with ultra thin, and clever naming (retina) of what is basically just a extra hi-res IPS display.

My conventional 2011 MBP is thin enough for me, thus thinner is of no value. Nor is the minor savings in weight. I can take or leave retina. Oh sure it's nice, but the software and many web sites are blurry anyway. My hi-res anti-glare 15" 2011 SSD equipped MBP is a great laptop, which meets my needs very well.

Well known for massive gross margins, the MBPr is a throwaway laptop once it's obsolete which is only a matter of a few years, now that Apple is dropping support for OS X 10.x.x. within that time frame. So I got rid of it.

tim100
Aug 3, 2012, 09:04 PM
Yes, I pre-ordered a fully maxed out MBPr.

Just a day after receiving it, the article in iFixit was published. I was shocked to see how it was glued together, and in no way user upgradeable. While an engineering marvel, I find the direction Apple is going completely against my principles (sealed devices, and now computers).

If I kept it I would be voting with my money _for_ the migration away from a conventional style user serviceable laptop.

Not something I'm interested in doing at this point. Not only that, although the price is no object in my decision making, once again it's the principle of Apple moving us up market into $3,000 laptops just because they are obsessed with ultra thin, and clever naming (retina) of what is basically just a extra hi-res IPS display.

My conventional 2011 MBP is thin enough for me, thus thinner is of no value. Nor is the minor savings in weight. I can take or leave retina. Oh sure it's nice, but the software and many web sites are blurry anyway. My hi-res anti-glare 15" 2011 SSD equipped MBP is a great laptop, which meets my needs very well.

Well known for massive gross margins, the MBPr is a throwaway laptop once it's obsolete which is only a matter of a few years, now that Apple is dropping support for OS X 10.x.x. within that time frame. So I got rid of it.

ok which macbook airs do you have?

entatlrg
Aug 3, 2012, 09:09 PM
I laugh at myself. Couldn't decide. Bought both. Use both :)

A couple of short years ago, even the 13 would seem like a feather to carry.

So you have an 11 and 13" MBA and a 15" MBP? That's cool, which one gets the most use?

If I could only use one I'd also choose the 13" MBP.

plucky duck
Aug 3, 2012, 09:20 PM
Reevaluating my needs. If I could only have one I would've gotten a 13". But since I already have a desktop 27" iMac and an iPad 3 already I felt that I could afford to have some "fun" and get OSX in a really small ultraportable form factor. Not that the 13" isn't portable, but that's just it it's just portable I wanted something ultraportable so I can bring with me both my iPad and Air in a small messenger travel bag.

11.6" display may appear to be small at first, especially when you use it side by side with a 13.3". But after awhile I've come to the conclusion that I don't really give up that much productivity compared to the huge savings in footprint I was enjoying. In the end I returned the 13" and kept the 11", real mobile computing power in a package slightly bigger than an iPad, just perfect for me.

HeadForTheHills
Aug 3, 2012, 09:49 PM
11" i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD.

Replacing a 13" 2009 5400 rpm air that was dog slow ... then died.

I plan on using the 11" in conjunction with my rev2 ipad so the smaller screen and lesser battery life are no great issue.

For Photoshop, Audition and Xcode.

ixodes
Aug 3, 2012, 10:58 PM
ok which macbook airs do you have?
I have a selection, since I work in a large multi-national engineering firm with several locations, I do a wide variety of R&D, so I carry my 15" or 17" 2011 MBP's. I have two offices with dual Apple monitors.

When I'm at other company locations in different states, I take the 13" 2011 MBA. Flying to London or Germany I either take the 11" 2011 MBA, or the 13 depending on the work I plan to do. I really enjoy my Macs, spend a lot of time on them, therefore having all sizes gives me some variety & keeps me from getting bored.

My personal server is a Mac Pro, with a full compliment of drives, a 5 drive Synology & other requisite peripherals, I have great access when away.

Nothing beats an array of Macs :)

tim100
Aug 5, 2012, 09:36 PM
i wonder when we will get retina macbook airs. theres not much else apple can do to improve on the air, great machines.

HeadForTheHills
Aug 6, 2012, 12:32 AM
i wonder when we will get retina macbook airs. theres not much else apple can do to improve on the air, great machines.

Retina = increased battery drain.
The retina mbp has a 20% larger battery than the regular 15".
The airs have already given up almost all their space to the battery.

tim100
Aug 6, 2012, 02:41 PM
Retina = increased battery drain.
The retina mbp has a 20% larger battery than the regular 15".
The airs have already given up almost all their space to the battery.

apple managed to put a retina display in the iPad

caoimhe
Aug 6, 2012, 03:04 PM
apple managed to put a retina display in the iPad

Yeah, but it's noticeably heavier than the iPad 2 because of the larger battery required and a bit thicker as well. Plus it seems to take ages longer to charge than my 2 did. Really pretty of course though!

tim100
Aug 6, 2012, 06:37 PM
Yeah, but it's noticeably heavier than the iPad 2 because of the larger battery required and a bit thicker as well. Plus it seems to take ages longer to charge than my 2 did. Really pretty of course though!

apple did do a good job with the retina mbp so maybe there is hope for a retina mba

green junkie
Aug 6, 2012, 08:59 PM
I have the 13' with 128 SSD and 8 RAM, but am now probably going to return it for the 11' one with a bigger hard drive.
Because of price and it just seem too big.

entatlrg
Aug 9, 2012, 10:18 AM
2.0GHz Intel Dual-Core Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB Flash Storage
Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
VGA Adapter 065-C0T9

It sings, and is more than twice faster than my 11" 4 GB Memory, 1.86 GHZ dual core i7, 256 GB SSD

Now that you've owned both for a while, which screen size do you prefer, 11 or 13"?

Melcombe
Aug 9, 2012, 11:21 AM
11" - but having agonised over the decision for a few months. Now made, Im very happy and have no doubts. Using it (rather than just ogling it in the Apple store), I realise I like the screen's aspect ratio.

When Im airdropping things with my iMac, or using both machines at the same time, the MBA sits between the iMac screen & keyboard so that I can see both screens. There's a nice symmetry between the screens which I just like.

A very small point, but I just find it easy on the eye. :)

Matt Leaf
Aug 9, 2012, 12:12 PM
Ordered an 11", i7 2.0, 8GB, 128. Have a 1.5 TB GoFlex portable if I need extra room. Otherwise the 11" will be mostly used for text/small files and some music. Also have a 15" MBP which I'll leave at home in the studio, for days of heavy usage. Have a TBD at home which I'll use with the 11" (probably closed or with the display off) if the MBP is putting out a render, or with the MBP if the Air isn't cutting it. Otherwise the 11" will be my "go everywhere" companion. I can understand why people go for the 13 if they want an everyday, stand alone machine. The 11" suits me as a compliment to my other devices. Ultimately the performance and operating system is the same on both machines, and let's face it, who travels without their power supply? The big win then for the 13" then is the extra screen size. I can live without the SD slot, and to me the sacrifice of screen size is well worth the cut in weight, since both machines essentially pack the same performance. Will see when it turns up I guess. I would assume the 13" has more votes this year due to the MBP 13" not being much of a viable option anymore...