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MacRumors
Jun 26, 2012, 01:59 PM
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Last week, e27 reported (http://e27.sg/2012/06/21/rumor-is-apple-launching-an-itunes-store-in-asia-soon/) that Apple had invited Asian music label representatives to a "launch event" scheduled for tomorrow in Hong Kong, with speculation centering around a launch for iTunes Store music offerings in a number of countries in the region. Rumors have also indicated Jason Mraz will be performing at the launch event as part of the celebration.We received a tip off from a trusted source in the industry that Apple is planning a secret launch event on 27th June in Hong Kong. The location has not been confirmed, but rumors suggested that the location of the event is close to the airport.

Based on our observations, we noticed a strong showing of Apple executives at the recent Music Matters event in Singapore. Our source has also mentioned that a good number of Asian music labels are already in talks with Apple. If that is not enough of an indication that something big is coming to Asia, the tip also indicates that representatives of these labels will be flying over to Hong Kong next week for the supposed Apple launch event.e27 now follows up (http://e27.sg/2012/06/26/rumor-first-7-asian-countries-to-have-access-to-full-itunes-store-revealed/) with a specific claim that the launch will include not only music but also movies and TV shows and will be going live in seven countries: Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

A review of the localized iTunes Stores for the various countries reveals that movie listings have already gone live, and the navigation bars also contain listings for music, although they are not yet functional. TV shows are not listed as an option in the navigation bar, so it appears that they may not be included in the launch.

Music and movies have been available in roughly 50 countries (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3599) around the world prior to today's launch, with the most recent expansion coming last December (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/13/itunes-music-and-movies-debut-in-16-latin-american-countries-brazil-gets-itunes-match/) with the addition of 16 Latin American countries.

The App Store has the broadest distribution among Apple's iTunes Store content types, with 155 countries offering apps after last week's expansion (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/21/app-store-launches-in-32-new-countries/). All seven of the Asian markets receiving music and movie access today previously offered apps, podcasts, iTunes U, and free books, but the new content marks substantial additions for customers in those countries.

Update: Apple has issued a press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/06/26Apple-Launches-iTunes-Store-in-Hong-Kong-Singapore-Taiwan-Nine-Additional-Countries-in-Asia-Today.html) confirming the launch. The company is launching the iTunes Store in 12 new countries, not 7: Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Sri Lanka and Vietnam.

Article Link: Apple Rolling Out iTunes Store Music and Movies in Twelve New Asian Countries [Updated] (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/26/apple-rolling-out-itunes-store-music-and-movies-in-seven-new-asian-countries/)



arian19
Jun 26, 2012, 02:01 PM
Yay!

kyjaotkb
Jun 26, 2012, 02:03 PM
can't believe the iTunes Store didn't exist in HK and Singapore before ! Where the biggest malls full of iPods and iPhones can be found !

CplBadboy
Jun 26, 2012, 02:06 PM
Wish they would overhaul iTunes. It could do with some Apple magic

ThunderSkunk
Jun 26, 2012, 02:26 PM
Just once I'd like to see them do something really ballsy and invite Dan Deacon to play, with his little iPod-setup and turn the event into a loosely orchestrated circus.

Mic'sBook
Jun 26, 2012, 02:47 PM
Yay! Finally! :)

Having said that:
(1) The number of songs seems limited at the moment (Not a problem at all as I'm sure it will continue to grow)
(2) Most Cantonese song names aren't written in (Traditional) Chinese, they are just Cantonese romanisation which is really hard to comprehend.

Santabean2000
Jun 26, 2012, 03:08 PM
Finally! And now perhaps we can (officially) get the ATV!!

mayktoie
Jun 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
its sort of working now!!! great!!! tried it on my iphone....if you go to itunes and do a search it actually shows you albums and videos of the artist you search and currency is shown as local currency....nice...cant wait for itunes match!!!!:D

DisMyMac
Jun 26, 2012, 03:39 PM
Can anyone buy from foreign iTunes stores, or do we have to live there?

mayktoie
Jun 26, 2012, 03:44 PM
it does show foreign movies and foreign artists available for download. try to search the artist you're looking for, it might be available.

DisMyMac
Jun 26, 2012, 03:59 PM
it does show foreign movies and foreign artists available for download. try to search the artist you're looking for, it might be available.

That may only be "foreign" as a category (like world music). I searched for Leslie Cheung and it's mostly just soundtracks and compilation albums.

mayktoie
Jun 26, 2012, 04:07 PM
Im not too familiar with Leslie Cheung but i did a search for that artist and came up with a few albums like I am what I am, among others. I am in singapore by the way. What I meant by foreign was US artists.:D

kirky29
Jun 26, 2012, 04:28 PM
Can anyone buy from foreign iTunes stores, or do we have to live there?

I buy a lot from the American iTunes store (much better content..), I just buy iTunes Vouchers from eBay and enter the code into my separate iTunes US account. - as long as you put in an address for that Country, it should work.

pika2000
Jun 26, 2012, 04:33 PM
Great for those countries, but still doesn't change the backwardness of the labels in terms of licensing. Internet means global distribution, yet with this digital online stores, contents are still locked into each countries'/region's stores, where users from outside the market have to jump through hoops to purchase the contents. :rolleyes: It's like they don't want sales. God forbid more people from around the world buying their stuff legally. Ridiculous. And they wonder why people are utilizing the alternative routes.

kirky29
Jun 26, 2012, 04:45 PM
Great for those countries, but still doesn't change the backwardness of the labels in terms of licensing. Internet means global distribution, yet with this digital online stores, contents are still locked into each countries'/region's stores, where users from outside the market have to jump through hoops to purchase the contents. :rolleyes: It's like they don't want sales. God forbid more people from around the world buying their stuff legally. Ridiculous. And they wonder why people are utilizing the alternative routes.

You are exactly right! We're in this connected world, yet...some places just can't get content.. example, The Simpsons, in the US I could watch them on Hulu or buy them all on iTunes....yet here in the UK they only have a couple of overpriced seasons on iTunes.... or DVD...but who wants DVDs ;)

Wonder why I *sometimes* watch them on streaming sites. If they were on iTunes (maybe for a better price too!) I'd buy them.

I believe people are willing to pay for things, if it's available and not insanely overpriced, certainly when you compare prices to the US.

808?
Jun 26, 2012, 05:03 PM
I am lucky I did not hold my breath waiting for this to come to Hong Kong. It is almost 10 years since it was first launched.

pika2000
Jun 26, 2012, 05:18 PM
I believe people are willing to pay for things, if it's available and not insanely overpriced, certainly when you compare prices to the US.
True. Unlike the propaganda the industry is trying to portray, that everybody are thieves, people are willing to pay for things. I'm in the US, and the situation is not so rosy here either, especially if you want to consume foreign content. Eg. J-Pop. US iTunes actually used to have quite a good selection of J-Pop, and at 99c/$1.29 a track, they are a bargain (vs the cost of import CDs). But few years ago, most of them were all yanked out. It's mind boggling. Basically these labels are telling the fans to go ahead and pirate their content instead. :rolleyes:

adder7712
Jun 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
About time too.

Bring on the iTunes Gift Cards! :D

TimeArrow
Jun 26, 2012, 06:16 PM
That's great!

Correction, Hongkong is not a 'country'.

plz use the phrase 'country and region' :cool:

808?
Jun 26, 2012, 06:34 PM
Correction, Hongkong is not a 'country'.

We have our own olympic team, are individual members of the WTO, WHO, our own currency, legal system and independent border controls.

Yes we might share a physical border and some political connections with mainland China, but saying the two are one is like saying night and day are the one.

haruhiko
Jun 26, 2012, 06:38 PM
One of the greatest news for me today. You know we've been waiting for this for nearly a decade. This is one big nice change under Tim Cook. He is much more concerned with the Asian market than Jobs.

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That's great!

Correction, Hongkong is not a 'country'.

plz use the phrase 'country and region' :cool:

Hong Kong is not a state. But it can be a "country", according to the following definition:

A country is a region legally identified as a distinct entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated peoples with distinct political characteristics. Regardless of the physical geography, in the modern internationally accepted legal definition as defined by the League of Nations in 1937 and reaffirmed by the United Nations in 1945, a resident of a country is subject to the independent exercise of legal jurisdiction.
Sometimes the word country is used to refer both to sovereign states and to other political entities,[1][2][3] while other times it refers only to states.[4] For example, the CIA World Factbook uses the word in its "Country name" field to refer to "a wide variety of dependencies, areas of special sovereignty, uninhabited islands, and other entities in addition to the traditional countries or independent states".[5]

gnasher729
Jun 26, 2012, 06:46 PM
Some people are more sensitive than others

Some people are less sensitive than others. And if you have to add "this is not racist" to a post, then everybody knows it is.

Twenty5
Jun 26, 2012, 07:07 PM
Location to be closed to the airport? Well.. considering that Hong Kong does not have many places to host concerts or events like these. Im going to bet that they will be hosting this secret launch part at the AsiaWorld-Expo located in Lantau Island. Concerts happen here like 85% of the time and the venue is right next to the airport.

Moreover, when you go to AsiaWorld-Expo's upcoming events page (http://www.asiaworld-expo.com/html/en/eventCalendar/EventDetail_F9AEA4295FF7420AADBB867562342B6A.html), it states that on the 27th they will be hosting a private event.

So go figure :D

jahoys
Jun 26, 2012, 07:08 PM
About time too.

Bring on the iTunes Gift Cards! :D

THIS! a lot of people in asia don't have (or choose not to use) credit cards for online purchases. would be a boon if gift cards were available as an alternative

tonyunreal
Jun 26, 2012, 07:11 PM
No luck for mainland China and Korea? :(

blow45
Jun 26, 2012, 07:19 PM
Are they paying their fair amount of taxes in any of these countries? Or have they found yet another a la Luxembourg in the EU loophole to avoid paying what they should. That's the right question to ask. And citizens of these nations should be asking it.

blow45
Jun 26, 2012, 07:32 PM
Lots of people have ideas they think are more humorous than racist, but after reading this one a few times, looking for the humor, only getting poking at a culture in naming and syntax.
What's up with the disclaimer? Say almost anything then say,
"hey, that's not racist."

It was pretty funny. In what way was it racist? You might want to explain it to some of us, because I don't see what''s racist it poking harmless fun at the way a language sounds. I find political correctness gone awry is what's hiding the real racism, that is people are quick to say racist for someone making fun of apple's choice of a social networking name ping comparing it with local syntax. But the same people won't bat an eyelid at the working conditions and suicide nets at foxconn because they expect other people to work in conditions they would never accept for them or their siblings just so they can afford their uber consumerism habits, and even have the gall to speak of apple's humanitarian efforts.

That's the real racism and hypocrisy, not the ping pong, ching chong love you long which is fun and harmless. We all speak differently and that's something to be humorous about, it's not something we should be anal about.

sorry for the consecutive post, why does the system sometimes work and others not?

dra
Jun 26, 2012, 07:43 PM
No luck for mainland China and Korea? :(

china needs a better tax system

hkechoes
Jun 26, 2012, 08:17 PM
it's a good reason to buy an Apple TV now (from Hong Kong).

but the Apple HK Store don't have any reference of Apple TV now.

sshambles
Jun 26, 2012, 08:29 PM
The PR statement by Apple caught my eye...

"and international artists like ADELE, The Beatles and Jason Mraz."

Adele, sure - she's sold enough records.
The Beatles speak for themselves.
But Jason Mraz... Seriously?

chanyitian
Jun 26, 2012, 08:41 PM
image (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/26/apple-rolling-out-itunes-store-music-and-movies-in-seven-new-asian-countries/)


image (http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/itunes_10_icon_150.jpg)

last week, e27 reported (http://e27.sg/2012/06/21/rumor-is-apple-launching-an-itunes-store-in-asia-soon/) that apple had invited asian music label representatives to a "launch event" scheduled for tomorrow in hong kong, with speculation centering around a launch for itunes store music offerings in a number of countries in the region. Rumors have also indicated jason mraz will be performing at the launch event as part of the celebration.e27 now follows up (http://e27.sg/2012/06/26/rumor-first-7-asian-countries-to-have-access-to-full-itunes-store-revealed/) with a specific claim that the launch will include not only music but also movies and tv shows and will be going live in seven countries: Singapore, malaysia, thailand, indonesia, the philippines, taiwan and hong kong.

A review of the localized itunes stores for the various countries reveals that movie listings have already gone live, and the navigation bars also contain listings for music, although they are not yet functional. Tv shows are not listed as an option in the navigation bar, so it appears that they may not be included in the launch.

Music and movies have been available in roughly 50 countries (http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3599) around the world prior to today's launch, with the most recent expansion coming last december (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/13/itunes-music-and-movies-debut-in-16-latin-american-countries-brazil-gets-itunes-match/) with the addition of 16 latin american countries.

The app store has the broadest distribution among apple's itunes store content types, with 155 countries offering apps after last week's expansion (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/21/app-store-launches-in-32-new-countries/). All seven of the asian markets receiving music and movie access today previously offered apps, podcasts, itunes u, and free books, but the new content marks substantial additions for customers in those countries.

update: Apple has issued a press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/06/26apple-launches-itunes-store-in-hong-kong-singapore-taiwan-nine-additional-countries-in-asia-today.html) confirming the launch. The company is launching the itunes store in 12 new countries, not 7: Hong kong, singapore, taiwan, brunei, cambodia, laos, macau, malaysia, philippines, thailand, sri lanka and vietnam.

Article link: apple rolling out itunes store music and movies in twelve new asian countries [updated] (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/26/apple-rolling-out-itunes-store-music-and-movies-in-seven-new-asian-countries/)

yay they are launching in hk!!! I can finally purchase songs online!!!

Dreamer2go
Jun 26, 2012, 09:09 PM
Location to be closed to the airport? Well.. considering that Hong Kong does not have many places to host concerts or events like these. Im going to bet that they will be hosting this secret launch part at the AsiaWorld-Expo located in Lantau Island. Concerts happen here like 85% of the time and the venue is right next to the airport.

Moreover, when you go to AsiaWorld-Expo's upcoming events page (http://www.asiaworld-expo.com/html/en/eventCalendar/EventDetail_F9AEA4295FF7420AADBB867562342B6A.html), it states that on the 27th they will be hosting a private event.

So go figure :D

They will, because Jason Mraz will have a "secret" concert today.... so I'm sure it's Apple related now that this news broke out!

haruhiko
Jun 26, 2012, 09:17 PM
it's a good reason to buy an Apple TV now (from Hong Kong).

but the Apple HK Store don't have any reference of Apple TV now.

I bought the Apple TV 2 in Japan last year... but it only supports 720p :(

huntermaclean
Jun 26, 2012, 09:34 PM
Does this mean my Apple TV will finally work in Hong Kong?

haruhiko
Jun 26, 2012, 09:39 PM
Does this mean my Apple TV will finally work in Hong Kong?

I think so, but the current selection is still quite limited. Hopefully they will add more movies soon!

But it seems that there isn't any TV shows available yet.

akbarali.ch
Jun 26, 2012, 09:40 PM
No music love for India ?!! Apple

tonydickinson
Jun 26, 2012, 09:56 PM
Wow, wow, wow.

I have waited for this for so long, as in singapore the iTunes store felt very second class.... THANK YOU APPLE.

Perhaps now we might be able to buy the Apple TV in the Singapore store. I have avoided the US sets sold here in forums, as the Apple TV is fantastic with "real" AppleStore support.....

mexkhmer
Jun 26, 2012, 10:03 PM
I am really shocked that South Korea was not added to this group of countries... I had also my hopes for China and India to open a music store. The countries that I am actually waiting for a music store to open are Israel, Egypt, and Russia....

EbookReader
Jun 26, 2012, 10:16 PM
I am really shocked that South Korea was not added to this group of countries... I had also my hopes for China and India to open a music store. The countries that I am actually waiting for a music store to open are Israel, Egypt, and Russia....

No shock at all.

More legal digital music are sold in South Korea than in the USA.

The weekly #1 song in South Korea usually sell 500,000 or more. Sometimes even more than 1,000,000.

http://www.gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/online/download/list.gaon?nationGbn=T

This week #1 song sold 630,510 copies



The reason: legal MP3s in South Korea are sold at around $0.15-0.20 each on average.
Low Price, High Volume.

On an interesting note, Spotify is now No. 2 source of revenue for the major labels behind Itunes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-revenue-labels-2012-6
Spotify Is Now The Second Biggest Source Of Revenue For Labels—Source




Look at its growth:

http://spotifyroyalties.blogspot.com/

Spotify REVENUE

2008: $0.612 million USD
2009: $18.1 million USD
2010: $99 million USD
2011: $236.4 million USD
2012: projected at $889 million USD

haruhiko
Jun 26, 2012, 11:22 PM
The 3rd gen Apple TV is also on sale at the local Apple Store (IFC) in Hong Kong.

bedifferent
Jun 27, 2012, 12:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46WcFObgYhI

Deck the hars with bars of horry far ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra
(Yes, borderline in bad taste, but c'mon, "A Christmas Story"? Classic :o

adder7712
Jun 27, 2012, 12:48 AM
Fantastic! I've even spotted some Malaysian artists on iTunes. What I need are Gift Cards. All tracks are DRM-free now right?

plhov
Jun 27, 2012, 01:08 AM
Finally got some decent iTunes content at last in Singapore, all we need now is to be able to buy some decent books (instead of the crappy free stuff) in iBooks and I'd be a happy chap.

AppleHater
Jun 27, 2012, 01:13 AM
No shock at all.

More legal digital music are sold in South Korea than in the USA.

The weekly #1 song in South Korea usually sell 500,000 or more. Sometimes even more than 1,000,000.

http://www.gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/online/download/list.gaon?nationGbn=T

This week #1 song sold 630,510 copies



The reason: legal MP3s in South Korea are sold at around $0.15-0.20 each on average.
Low Price, High Volume.

On an interesting note, Spotify is now No. 2 source of revenue for the major labels behind Itunes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-revenue-labels-2012-6
Spotify Is Now The Second Biggest Source Of Revenue For Labels—Source




Look at its growth:

http://spotifyroyalties.blogspot.com/

Spotify REVENUE

2008: $0.612 million USD
2009: $18.1 million USD
2010: $99 million USD
2011: $236.4 million USD
2012: projected at $889 million USD

An active paid download market is a good thing, right? I guess, they need to charge the same $.99 per song in every country? Considering the popularity of k-pop, it's rather strange.

jlnr
Jun 27, 2012, 01:36 AM
Watching movies in English with Chinese (TW) subtitles, without wasting time on torrents and SRT files? A dream might've come true!

SD rentals are affordable too, starting at NT$40 (US$1.34). 181 titles are available to rent right now.

Trekorvar
Jun 27, 2012, 03:27 AM
If iTunes store just became available in your country/region, and you plan to purchase an Apple TV, make sure there are plenty of titles available in the library from the start! Do not assume the amount will increase over time! Movies became available in iTunes store Japan in November 2010 with very few titles available initially, the situation has not improved since then! I regret my purchase of Apple TV, and can definitely not recommend it to anyone here in Japan.

cheunghy
Jun 27, 2012, 03:37 AM
Have been waiting for this for years!
Prices are much lower than I expected.
I'm now seriously thinking of switching from the UK Store. (I'm an overseas student.)

And the Apple TV is back (http://store.apple.com/hk/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/apple_tv)!

geveke
Jun 27, 2012, 04:21 AM
I heard apple is also adding their music social service called Ping Pong Ching Chong Love You Long Time'

Btw that wasn't racist

Yes it was. And stupid.

robertbrian23
Jun 27, 2012, 04:40 AM
very limited number of data available for my country. -_-
tried using the search functionality in the itunes store and saw the movie and music i wanted to download but not available for me. -_-

seems i still need to wait.

negativzero
Jun 27, 2012, 05:05 AM
Yup, we got the Apple TV in Singapore too :)
http://store.apple.com/sg/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/apple_tv

The movie store has started out great with a nice selection of movies, I did a check with my movies archive here and didn't find all the mainstream films on it. Stuff like Bourne, Titanic, Avatar they don't have the entire Marvel film collection either with stuff like Iron Man, Spiderman, etc missing plus the entire Disney and Pixar catalogue of catroons is also missing. So lots still missing but I hope they add those titles soon. Additionally, what I'm hearing from a friend who uses the US iTunes store is the mature content here is filtered. The local version of 300 has a minute or so shaved off, so could be stuff like the sex scenes and battles got cut, I'm not too sure.

Music is a little better, and at least my faves are there like Eric Clapton, Carole King, Miles Davis, Eminem(even the explicit version songs). Their trance collection sucks though and major dance artists like ATB, Armin van Buren, Fatboy Slim are mising :(

So still a lot missing here. Lots of major US studios not committing yet I assume.

caspersoong
Jun 27, 2012, 05:50 AM
I agree. There is a lot missing. Especially since they did not even list religious as a genre. I could find Casting Crowns, Chris Tomlin, but I could not find Hillsong. There is also the lack of ping, which makes it difficult for us to find album artwork for the CD albums we rip, practically the only function I used for Ping. This is the Malaysian store, btw.

weckart
Jun 27, 2012, 06:08 AM
Great for those countries, but still doesn't change the backwardness of the labels in terms of licensing. Internet means global distribution, yet with this digital online stores, contents are still locked into each countries'/region's stores, where users from outside the market have to jump through hoops to purchase the contents. :rolleyes: It's like they don't want sales. God forbid more people from around the world buying their stuff legally. Ridiculous. And they wonder why people are utilizing the alternative routes.

Not so much backward as fragmented. Musical artists, in particular, might be signed to a number of different record companies depending upon the country/region, so channelling all sales via one distributor (probably the USian) would mean all the other companies losing out on sales and possibly other governments missing out on tax revenues.

If you want a global point of sale, then you are going to have to deal with a very small number of global record companies controlling ALL music sales. We are nearly there already and therein lies mediocrity and and utter lack of risk taking in favour of profit.

imgmkr
Jun 27, 2012, 02:19 PM
i hear Korean itune music store has been in the making but having not-so-easy negotiation with copyright holders, labels and what not. they don't want to give up their current deal and accept uncertain future of getting in bed with Apple. Also big conglomates who are the seller of digital contents don't wanna share the market because they know they'll loose big chunk of profit to itunes store. anyhow one can buy many K-pops from US and canadian itunes now.

bboyredcel
Jun 27, 2012, 05:40 PM
jesus, when will they separate music and movies? iTunes has become a jack of all trades, master of none. Its time to split iTunes down the middle and create a Video/Movie/TV Show management app and leave iTunes to do the Music (they can even rename iTunes, "Music" like on iOS). iTunes sucks at video management in all forms. I'd also like to see them take "apps" out of iTunes and put them into the AppStore app that they already have on OSX.

iTunes should:
Manage Music and all other Audio

Movies should:
Manage Movies, TV Shows, and all other video

iPhoto does:
manage photos, fill your hdd with 356 copies of each photo.

"Sync" should be integrated into the OS, maybe have it show up in Notification Center when someone connects a device... For more detailed management there can be a separate app or preference panel "Sync Preferences" where you can manage stuff like pages of apps in iOS and what does/doesnt sync (exact functionality iTunes sync page provides now... but simpler).

iTunes makes me furious and embarrassed because its shittiness is what PC users judge us based on due to the app existing in all of its asstastic glory on both OS's. Its an embarrassment. /rant

TimeArrow
Jun 28, 2012, 06:35 PM
One of the greatest news for me today. You know we've been waiting for this for nearly a decade. This is one big nice change under Tim Cook. He is much more concerned with the Asian market than Jobs.

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Hong Kong is not a state. But it can be a "country", according to the following definition:

A country is a region legally identified as a distinct entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated peoples with distinct political characteristics. Regardless of the physical geography, in the modern internationally accepted legal definition as defined by the League of Nations in 1937 and reaffirmed by the United Nations in 1945, a resident of a country is subject to the independent exercise of legal jurisdiction.
Sometimes the word country is used to refer both to sovereign states and to other political entities,[1][2][3] while other times it refers only to states.[4] For example, the CIA World Factbook uses the word in its "Country name" field to refer to "a wide variety of dependencies, areas of special sovereignty, uninhabited islands, and other entities in addition to the traditional countries or independent states".[5]

plz dont play the 'definition' trick. Any word can have this or that extended meaning or broader usage in certain situations.

Also plz have a think before citing wikithing.
plz use common sense. Ever heard someone said Alaska is a country?
So simple.

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We have our own olympic team, are individual members of the WTO, WHO, our own currency, legal system and independent border controls.

Yes we might share a physical border and some political connections with mainland China, but saying the two are one is like saying night and day are the one.

Ask Mr. Liang Zhenying if he is a head of a SAR goverment or a country's government.

Of course, in terms of political system as well as economic level, Hongkong SAR is a great example for mainland to learn. However, it is the country/nation's people and army who are protecting this flourish and tiny land.

Back to the topic, it's a great move for ituens to land in Hongkong.
Curious to see how the cantonese songs in iTunes would be against the widespread copyright infringement.

haruhiko
Jun 28, 2012, 09:18 PM
plz dont play the 'definition' trick. Any word can have this or that extended meaning or broader usage in certain situations.

Also plz have a think before citing wikithing.
plz use common sense. Ever heard someone said Alaska is a country?
So simple.

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Ask Mr. Liang Zhenying if he is a head of a SAR goverment or a country's government.

Of course, in terms of political system as well as economic level, Hongkong SAR is a great example for mainland to learn. However, it is the country/nation's people and army who are protecting this flourish and tiny land.

Back to the topic, it's a great move for ituens to land in Hongkong.
Curious to see how the cantonese songs in iTunes would be against the widespread copyright infringement.
His name is Leung Chun Ying and his nickname is CY. He is never Liang Zhenying. Thanks.

Anyway, it's not a political forum here and our discussion should end here. Enjoy the iTunes Store folk :-)