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MacRumors
Jun 28, 2012, 09:28 AM
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A new website at FinallyOnTheMac.com (http://www.finallyonthemac.com/) has just gone live, teasing a major announcement from an undisclosed company. The site currently consists of a single YouTube video entitled "Countdown to a revolution", with the site containing an additional eight blank slots where other videos will presumably be posted in the coming days.

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We believe that Sony is behind the teaser campaign, and the video's focus on music and audio recording hints that the company's Sound Forge (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/soundforgesoftware) audio recording and editing tools may be coming to the Mac.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/06/sound_forge_banner.jpg


The video offers the following tag lines suggesting that it is indeed an existing software product that is being rebuilt from the ground up for the Mac:

- The wait is over
- Rethought. Reshaped. Recreated.
- Reinvented for the Mac

No timeframe for an official announcement or launch has been given, with the website and video description simply mentioning that the product will be "coming soon".

Article Link: Sony's Sound Forge Audio Editing Software Coming to Mac? (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/28/sonys-sound-forge-audio-editing-software-coming-to-mac/)



Winter Charm
Jun 28, 2012, 09:30 AM
This is definitely good news for audio professionals :)

basesloaded190
Jun 28, 2012, 09:34 AM
Can't imagine anyone switching from Pro Tools to this though.

adildacoolset
Jun 28, 2012, 09:34 AM
It's good that logic is getting some more competition. That means that there will be better software coming from all companies in the future

goodcow
Jun 28, 2012, 09:35 AM
It's good that logic is getting one competition. That means that there will be better software coming from all companies in the future

Unless Apple throws in the ProApps towel entirely.

ForzaJuve
Jun 28, 2012, 09:38 AM
You know it's probably Quicken 2012 or MS Access, or SAS! All programs that keep us from completely cutting the umbilical cord with Windows.

GBrooks
Jun 28, 2012, 09:38 AM
Can't imagine anyone switching from Pro Tools to this though.

Agreed. Tools is awesome.

Sonic
Jun 28, 2012, 09:38 AM
This makes me so happy. Ever since I switched when Logic did (v6), I've only missed one bit of software. I couldn't even find it in my heart to use Peak / Audacity, so I just pile on plugins in logic, and occasionally bounce down. But when I worked on PC, I did a lot more sound pre-processing back and forth with the DAW, and I still miss the samples that came out of that. Hope it has the same neat drag and drop shortcuts that make editing a breeze.

Also as I do SFX for games these days as well as music, it's going to be extra useful. :)

merzolin
Jun 28, 2012, 09:41 AM
No timeframe for an official announcement or launch has been given, with the website and video description simply mentioning that the product will be "coming soon".


The image urls for the dropboxes are numbered from "assets/week1_sml.jpg" to "assets/week9_sml.jpg" in the source code, leading to the assumption that a new video will be posted every week (possibly with a release after the 9 weeks?)

dvkid
Jun 28, 2012, 09:43 AM
Hate to say it, but they coulda just said "we don't know what it is" and made it more newsworthy. A prosumer audio post application comes to the Mac and it's somehow groundbreaking? I'm not seeing it.

HornetMontana
Jun 28, 2012, 09:44 AM
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OS X Dude
Jun 28, 2012, 09:47 AM
If I didn't use and adore Logic, I'd be using Pro Tools much more, probably even exclusively. I don't know why people would use this Sony DAW when PT (and even Cubase to an extent) exist and are much more commonplace throughout the audio industry.

What records do you know of made in Sony software? Not that that discredits the software in any way, it's probably very good. Just a musing I may have to Google to find out.

jephrey
Jun 28, 2012, 09:52 AM
I do light audio editing - as a lot of my friends, with live recordings and things like that. I enjoy sound studio on the mac - My needs are pretty limited to mixing stereo tracks, lining up for that mix/crossfade, things like that.

That being said, my PC friends are really behind SoundForge. I can see this being something at least worth trying out. Although sound studio is nice, nothing compares to the simple elegance of SoundEdit16 back on OS9 and earlier. I even used it with rosetta until I revised my workflow into soundstudio.

I'd say good news.

jccrtv
Jun 28, 2012, 09:55 AM
Sound Forge on the PC is used for a very different purpose than multitrack protools. Loved it for year on PC for all shaping and editing of a single stereo file. It's that good. Instant buy when it's out for Mac.

CrAkD
Jun 28, 2012, 09:57 AM
I haven't used sound forge in years.

aafuss1
Jun 28, 2012, 10:02 AM
Great news-hope Sony can also do ACID for Mac later on. I really like Sony's Sound Forge and hope it'll be on the MAS.

Suggested to Sony Creative Software on twitter that they should have mobile apps too-I'd love to see a Sound Forge companion iOS app.

natallica
Jun 28, 2012, 10:05 AM
Sound Forge is a 2-track audio editor. The video seems to imply multi-track recording.

-- N

Jodles
Jun 28, 2012, 10:08 AM
ProTools, Logic, Reaper, all fill different purposes really, and this might have some features missing from the others. Even though ProTools is in many genres the industry standard doesn't mean it's perfect. A quick look on their forums demonstrate that;)

A welcome addition! Now if somebody could make a DAW on Mac with as sophisticated editing options as in Pyramix I'd be a happy bunny.

Quie23
Jun 28, 2012, 10:09 AM
Wish they would announce FL Studio for Mac

polaris20
Jun 28, 2012, 10:11 AM
Great news-hope Sony can also do ACID for Mac later on. I really like Sony's Sound Forge and hope it'll be on the MAS.

Suggested to Sony Creative Software on twitter that they should have mobile apps too-I'd love to see a Sound Forge companion iOS app.

As much as I enjoyed Acid on Windows, I can't see it offering anything over Logic these days, unless it's changed that much. I just checked, and they're only on 7? Kinda slow-moving.

Vegas was an excellent multitracker, but the Audio version was more or less melded into Acid, with the Video component focusing almost entirely on just video.

bedifferent
Jun 28, 2012, 10:13 AM
I can't see myself needing to switch from TwistedWave, which I think is worth the $80. It could use a noise reduction function, though.

I've never heard of this software. I have about 200 vinyl records I have tried to digitize. I bought all the hardware for my Mac Pro; a NAD Preamp and began the process with various software app's. The only issue: splitting tracks and meta-tagging. Took an hour per album, so I stopped.

Would this application [suite?] be helpful?

boomish
Jun 28, 2012, 10:16 AM
Very cool I used to love this on the PC..

BMNB1tch
Jun 28, 2012, 10:18 AM
Sound Forge was so much better than Audacity or Peak for chopping audio

looking fwd to this :D

Akarin
Jun 28, 2012, 10:18 AM
Funny, when seeing the video, I didn't think about Sony stuff but about Sonar. Who knows?

519tbarr
Jun 28, 2012, 10:26 AM
I hope this is true, I hope it's a full blown DAW. I have always hoped that Sony Creative Software would combine the two platforms of Acid Pro & Sound Forge and do something similar but better than Studio One 2. I have all of these programs on my PC. I also have Pro Tools 10 for work on the MAC. I have always loved the editing flow of Acid Pro, however Acid Pro 7 was created in 2008 and it's last update on the PC was in early 2010. It doesn't have 64x support on PC framework current. There has been a lot of speculation that the platform is dead, but Sony kept MUM on the subject. My hope is that whatever this new multitrack DAW is will kick butt and be the perfect solution to the multiple programs I currently am using. Pro Tools 10 is industry standard but honestly the work flow is not intuitive, Studio One 2 is great, it's kind of in-between Acid Pro & Pro Tools 10 in the way editing works and definitely has a current edge with great stability, and Acid Pro is frankly old and tired.
Bring it on Sony, but just make sure you bring whatever this new DAW is to both MAC and PC with 64x support and no limitation on plugin management.

rmwebs
Jun 28, 2012, 10:46 AM
Can't imagine anyone switching from Pro Tools to this though.

Anything that moves people from Windows to OS X is a good thing :)

z3r0
Jun 28, 2012, 11:01 AM
If only Nuendo didn't have that damn dongle. I hate dongles! *cough**cough* Avid*cough**cough*

Sackvillenb
Jun 28, 2012, 11:05 AM
Hmmm, that seems weird, but if true, that would be a good thing. Partly because more audio software for Mac = awesome, but also because more competition should force Apple into making Logic even better... at least I hope so! :)

Silver Box
Jun 28, 2012, 11:21 AM
Been waiting 15 years for Sony to do this, Sound Forge is great on the PC, its one of the last great audio jewels windows users had. Dont understand why people are comparing Pro Tools or Logic to an audio editor though. Peak and Audacity are better comparisons.

Mortalias
Jun 28, 2012, 11:22 AM
Please Sony, let Vegas be next!

Icaras
Jun 28, 2012, 11:24 AM
Although very great news, please wake me up when Logic Pro X is released.

subsonix
Jun 28, 2012, 11:29 AM
Been using Wave editor for a while now, then there was Sound track pro, but this should be an interesting addition. It's now been over a decade since I last used Soundforge though.

iLilana
Jun 28, 2012, 11:29 AM
meh. So many tools. This is just another tool. I'll stick with logic/Live/Reason. I've been working with these for almost 10 years and see no reason to change. Plus i've lost any faith in sony what-so-ever.

HurtinMinorKey
Jun 28, 2012, 11:51 AM
Been waiting 15 years for Sony to do this, Sound Forge is great on the PC, its one of the last great audio jewels windows users had. Dont understand why people are comparing Pro Tools or Logic to an audio editor though. Peak and Audacity are better comparisons.

Hopefully it will come with ACID too. ACID + SOUNDFOGRE+KONTAKT= badass.

calaverasgrande
Jun 28, 2012, 11:53 AM
Can't imagine anyone switching from Pro Tools to this though.

believe it or not there are dozens of reasons not to use Pro Tools.
First of all, they are a late arriver to the whole midi thing. Programs like Logic, Cubase and Sonar have worked with MIDI since day one and have much more sophisticated tools in this regard. Also, if Pro Tools was so dandy, why did they recently open up the application so you don't have to use Avid hardware with it? Avid doesn't do that on any of it's media composer or news cutter products (quite the opposite!). PT is obviously fighting to retain market share, and price is not the only reason. It has always been a conservatively upgraded program, often following instead of leading in terms of features. OTOH it is more stable than most of it's competitors, and no studio ever lost a client for "only" having Pro Tools.
As far as the Sonic Foundry family of products, they have some unique workflows and tools. I also feel that Sound Forge is more geared towards an edit heavy workflow.

mcfrazieriv
Jun 28, 2012, 11:53 AM
Anyone else going to comment on the [poor] quality of the video? This looks like something made in after effects in 1999... :confused:

lazyrighteye
Jun 28, 2012, 11:59 AM
Although sound studio is nice, nothing compares to the simple elegance of SoundEdit16 back on OS9 and earlier. I even used it with rosetta until I revised my workflow into soundstudio.

That was maybe my favorite pre OS X app. So powerful. So nimble.

marmotmammal
Jun 28, 2012, 12:11 PM
Sound Forge is a good stereo editor, e.g., mastering, but of course had to consider other apps, so I went with Amadeus, although I've had Peak and Wavelab. There aren't too many apps that specialize in mastering, so if in fact SF does port to Mac, I'll at least try the demo.

Amadeus is great because it's cheap, easy to use, and most clients really like the audio fixes I do in Amadeus as compared to Isotope, Pro Tools, etc.

radio893fm
Jun 28, 2012, 12:31 PM
Can't imagine anyone switching from Pro Tools to this though.

These are two totally different things.


OMG, this is it. One of the reasons I keep going back to a Windows machine now, besides localization tools like Trados.

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If I didn't use and adore Logic, I'd be using Pro Tools much more, probably even exclusively. I don't know why people would use this Sony DAW when PT (and even Cubase to an extent) exist and are much more commonplace throughout the audio industry.

What records do you know of made in Sony software? Not that that discredits the software in any way, it's probably very good. Just a musing I may have to Google to find out.

Again, 2 totally different things. This is not to "create records". Most of the users don't even use the multi-track function. This is for audio editing, straight. And the best tool at it. If you have not used it it's hard to explain what it is. But go with my word, it is the best.

You can compare it to Audacity, Audition (former WaveLab).

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Please Sony, let Vegas be next!

+1 It kicks Premiere's and FCXP ass.

camomac
Jun 28, 2012, 01:12 PM
Wish they would announce FL Studio for Mac

That's what was going to say too. Fruity loops was on of my favorite PC programs. Simple and fun!

extensor
Jun 28, 2012, 01:38 PM
I can't see myself needing to switch from TwistedWave, which I think is worth the $80. It could use a noise reduction function, though.

I use Amadeus Pro. It has noise reduction and is cheaper at $59.

141n5
Jun 28, 2012, 01:38 PM
Just hope we can get some updated hardware soon to use it on...

burne
Jun 28, 2012, 01:57 PM
Not sure I am ready to forgive Sony their horrible software, the root-kit debacle and endless stream of copy-protected CD's. (Yes, strictly speaking Sony BMG was a different company..)

In part Sony software was one of the reasons to move away from Windows. I'd like to keep a civil tongue in public, so let me just whisper 'Sony Clié'.

Canedrive
Jun 28, 2012, 01:57 PM
What records do you know of made in Sony software?


Never heard of Burial?

fractured
Jun 28, 2012, 02:09 PM
I wish I knew who was doing this promotion. They really have us talking, but it can't help that we keep talking about how awesome Sound Forge is if it is a promotion for Fruity Loops, or something like it.

I'm surprised that so many people are talking about DAWs when comparing to Sound Forge. SF is much more akin to Bias Peak (RIP) or SoundTrack Pro (also RIP). I used the heck out of SF in my PC days. It is a very capable audio editor. It's sister app, CD Architect, was my weapon of choice for building CDs (masters and dj mixes). I would welcome Sound Forge immediately if it were coming.

Enough, already! Who are you, software company teaser, and what do you have for me?

wildo
Jun 28, 2012, 02:21 PM
Sound Forge is a 2-track audio editor. The video seems to imply multi-track recording.

-- N

Soundforge has been a multi track for a while now.

Soundforge is the most Mac like piece of software on the PC! I hope its as friendly as the PC version!!

Canedrive
Jun 28, 2012, 02:27 PM
I used the heck out of SF in my PC days. It is a very capable audio editor. It's sister app, CD Architect, was my weapon of choice for building CDs (masters and dj mixes). I would welcome Sound Forge immediately if it were coming.



Co-sign on both SF AND CD Architect. The only apps I really miss since making the switch.

professorjay
Jun 28, 2012, 02:49 PM
Again, 2 totally different things. This is not to "create records". Most of the users don't even use the multi-track function. This is for audio editing, straight. And the best tool at it. If you have not used it it's hard to explain what it is. But go with my word, it is the best.

You can compare it to Audacity, Audition (former WaveLab).[COLOR="#808080"]


Exactly, a lot of mistaken comparisons in this thread. It's like comparing Soundtrack Pro to Cubase.

From my PC days, Sound Forge is the best at what it does IMHO.

dysamoria
Jun 28, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sound Forge is the only thing I miss on Windows. I actively dislike all audio editors (not DAWs) on Mac. Sadly, I cannot believe Sound Forge is being ported. It's probably some dumb crap. If anything good, based on this video, it's more likely to be Acid. But no matter what it is, that's apparently a lot of rewriting. The Windows API is used for everything in Sony's audio tools. Just like Cakewalk's. I'd really love if Sonar were ported. It would save me some conversion of all my projects.

petsounds
Jun 28, 2012, 03:49 PM
Sound Forge[/url] audio recording and editing tools may be coming to the Mac.



Fantastic (potential) news! To all the people saying, "why would you switch from PT/Logic?" -- at least the last time I used Sound Forge, it wasn't about multi-track recording. It's a tool for shaping and editing sound files. Very useful for sound effects for applications, games, etc. Though if you need a weird sound in your song, it's good for that also. This has been a big hole in the Mac world.

star-affinity
Jun 28, 2012, 03:52 PM
Peak and Audacity are better comparisons.

And (I guess) Wave Editor: http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/

Don't understand why it's not more known when it comes to audio editors for the Mac. Seems to be one of (if not the) best.

But I'm not a ”hardcore” user so these are just my impressions.

rei101
Jun 28, 2012, 03:53 PM
Last and least time I used Sound Forge was in 1998. It was great and equally complicated.

I do not see myself using it today. But is good to have it around, it is a serious piece of software.

onigami
Jun 28, 2012, 03:56 PM
Although very great news, please wake me up when Logic Pro X is released.

If Final Cut Pro X is of any indication, I suggest you stay asleep.

As per me...eh, I'm still waiting for a release of Fruity Loops (though I don't think it'll ever happen). More useful to me...

burne
Jun 28, 2012, 04:33 PM
This has been a big hole in the Mac world.


Petsounds, meet fission (http://rogueamoeba.com/fission/).

localoid
Jun 28, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sony's Sound Forge is digital audio editor software. Sound Forge is not digital audio workstation (DAW) software. Comparing it to Logic and Pro Tools (DAW software) is like comparing apples to oranges. The Windows version of Sound Forge is currently offered in two flavors -- a prosumer version for ~$70 and a pro version for ~$400.

petsounds
Jun 28, 2012, 05:56 PM
Petsounds, meet fission (http://rogueamoeba.com/fission/).

Thanks for the introduction, I will check it out. From the feature list, it doesn't seem to offer the breadth of audio-shaping tools that Sound Forge does. But I will take a look.

Another good Mac tool for sound tweaking is Adobe's Audition. Its ability to clean up distorted bits and pieces from sound files is quite amazing.

MysteriousKiwi
Jun 28, 2012, 06:14 PM
Wish they would announce FL Studio for Mac

Well they've done it for the iPhone/iPad, so were half way there...ish. :)

Also, I really do wish they'd put Sony Vegas on OSX, I mean I just love the simplicity and power of Vegas and its the only real reason I have bootcamp on my iMac...

racher
Jun 28, 2012, 06:14 PM
From the looks of the graphics in the teaser video, it does look like it's referencing Sony Sound Forge. Sony (and Sonic Foundry before it) always uses a red icon to identify Sound Forge. But as a video editor, I would LOVE to see a Mac version of Sony Vegas (which has a blue icon). Vegas started out as an audio-only editor, and they added video editing features on top of it. This resulted in an audio-centric workflow when working with video, and editing multi-track audio into a video project was simply a breeze. I often exported AAF files from other editing software and opened them in Vegas simply to sweeten the audio. The extra step was worth it considering how elegantly Vegas edited audio. And I know of a lot of musicians who use Vegas exclusively to record multi-track audio. Hopefully Sony saw the gap left open by the underwhelming FCPX and is thinking about porting Vegas to the Mac as well.

-racher

MysteriousKiwi
Jun 28, 2012, 06:18 PM
From the looks of the graphics in the teaser video, it does look like it's referencing Sony Sound Forge. Sony (and Sonic Foundry before it) always uses a red icon to identify Sound Forge. But as a video editor, I would LOVE to see a Mac version of Sony Vegas (which has a blue icon). Vegas started out as an audio-only editor, and they added video editing features on top of it. This resulted in an audio-centric workflow when working with video, and editing multi-track audio into a video project was simply a breeze. I often exported AAF files from other editing software and opened them in Vegas simply to sweeten the audio. The extra step was worth it considering how elegantly Vegas edited audio. And I know of a lot of musicians who use Vegas exclusively to record multi-track audio. Hopefully Sony saw the gap left open by the underwhelming FCPX and is thinking about porting Vegas to the Mac as well.

-racher

Totally agree, in my opinion Vegas > FCP.

I tried to pickup/get used to using FCP, but just found it far to illogical. That being far from what I have come to expect from apple, Logic is quite the opposite.

aldoofbanga
Jun 28, 2012, 06:29 PM
As others have said this has nothing to do with DAW's such as Pro Tools, Logic etc.

It's main competition is probably Wave Lab. I hope the Mac Port lives up to the Windows version.

Craigy
Jun 28, 2012, 06:44 PM
Is it just me - or does the whole video / website look like it's been put together in a hurry with no brand guidelines adhered to?....

Just doesn't seem like its legit..

Mark Holmes
Jun 28, 2012, 07:10 PM
The only reason I use Bootcamp and Windows 7 on my Mac Pro is for Vegas Pro - I have my fingers crossed that Sony has realized the potential of Vegas, and all the Sony Creative Software, for the Mac. The speed and intuitive workflow/interface has always seemed like it should be running on the Mac - been hoping for this for YEARS.

There has also been a sticky at the top of the Sony Vegas forums for the last few weeks looking for Mac/OSX beta testers for Sony Creative Software. I would say this is legit.

Mark Holmes
Jun 28, 2012, 07:24 PM
I would also note that Sony Creative Software, for the last few years at least, have introduced their products at IBC in September each year. If the site has placeholders for the next 9 weeks of teasers, that would put the last one the week before IBC (International Broadcasting Convention) on September 7th.

I would put money on announcements of several Sony Creative Software products at IBC in September.

petsounds
Jun 28, 2012, 07:35 PM
Petsounds, meet fission (http://rogueamoeba.com/fission/).

I checked it out. Looks good for chopping up audio, but I didn't see any shaping tools at all. So I'd say there's still room for Sound Forge on the Mac...

racher
Jun 28, 2012, 07:42 PM
Totally agree, in my opinion Vegas > FCP.

I tried to pickup/get used to using FCP, but just found it far to illogical. That being far from what I have come to expect from apple, Logic is quite the opposite.

Whenever a "newbie" asks me what video editing tool they should learn to do some serious editing, I alway recommend Sony Vegas Pro (if they're on a PC, that is). By far, it has the shallowest learning curve of any professional video editing tool. Mind you, I'm not counting iMovie or Windows Movie Maker here. I've used a lot of video editors over the years (good ole Premiere 4.2, DPS Velocity, Avid MCXpress, Avid Media Composer, Final Cut Pro 7 and X, the modern Premiere Pro), and I've always enjoyed the ease-of-use in Vegas. Too bad it never really caught on in some professional circles. I also agree that FCP 7 is clunky by comparison, but that version of Final Cut is so entrenched that many folks won't even consider anything else.

-racher

iPadPublisher
Jun 28, 2012, 11:21 PM
I haven't used Sound Forge since I moved to the Mac platform in 2010 and I've missed it dearly. I've used it since 1.0. Wrote articles about it back in the day, and even demo'd it for the company at a radio station back in 2000.

I've written to the few contacts I have left there a few times begging them to do this... though the new Sony bosses are a lot less responsive than their Sonic Foundry counterparts used to be.

I sure hope this is the case.

dysamoria
Jun 29, 2012, 12:01 AM
The only thing hopeful about the video in regard to Sound FORGE was the metal working clip. The product used to be owned by a company called Sonic Foundry. Forge. Foundry. Get it? Hah.

Oh & I'm in agreement about the video lacking professional brand identity polish too.

I've tried Wave Editor by Audiofile Engineering but the GUI is totally old style classic Mac "too many floating windows/palettes" nonsense. Also, the ability to zoom via the mouse wheel, something pretty basic, has only ever worked well for me in Sound Forge. Wave Editor gives customization options but it doesn't help. Audition does it, poorly (as in, no option to change the zoom focal point, so you have to fuss with scrolling AND zooming together instead of just zooming, if you want to get around). I keep an eye on Wave Editor now and then in case of changes. But if Sound Forge is ported and works the same or better than it does on Windows, I'll be super happy.

Next: Cakewalk Sonar!!

nilk
Jun 29, 2012, 11:08 AM
Wish they would announce FL Studio for Mac

They are bringing FL Studio to the Mac and it's in closed beta right now. But if I understand correctly it's just the Windows version ported over using CodeWeavers Crossover (a commercial product related to Wine that implements the Windows API). I haven't been following that very closely, though, maybe they are rewriting low-level parts of it for OS X, and it's just the GUI that they are using Crossover for. In any case, it doesn't sound like it will be as good as a native OS X port, but maybe it'll turn out nice. I've heard of people running FL Studio in a Windows VM successfully; but these are cases where low-latency is not required. I imagine this version will be quite a bit better than that.

CplusplusFTW
Jun 29, 2012, 10:50 PM
I'd rather be using GarageBand then some piece of **** software from Sony.

calaverasgrande
Jun 30, 2012, 01:53 PM
I'd rather be using GarageBand then some piece of **** software from Sony.

Well Garageband is logic express minus a couple features. I could record a band in Garageband no problem, but if I was doing serious editing I would go nuts. Just an FYI. Sony did not create Sound Forge. It was created by Sonic Foundry, a company that Sony bought out a few years ago. I do not know anything about how that deal went down, but Sony did not have a dog in that fight previously, so it wasn't a "competitor buy out" where they just let the product wither and die.
If anything the impression I get is that it was merely a platform to leverage the Sonnox plug ins to a more prosumer market. And if you know anything about the Sonnox stuff, it's no joke.

Greg.
Jun 30, 2012, 05:11 PM
I'd much rather have Sony Vegas come to the Mac. I've never got on with iMovie, Final Cut or Premiere/After Effects after coming from using Sony Vegas on Windows.

milo
Jul 1, 2012, 07:38 AM
This would be pretty amazing. Aside from a couple proprietary apps at my work, this is pretty much the only windows app I really need. I just haven't found a mac app that has all the features SF has, particularly a few that I can't live without.

That said, I hope it's a major new version with significant updates, there are some really annoying things about SF they haven't got around to fixing (and for me, 10 doesn't add enough over what 9 already had).

Can't imagine anyone switching from Pro Tools to this though.

Sound Forge isn't really competition for PT or Logic, those are multitrack apps and the strength of this is destructive editing of single files. This is more competition for Soundtrack Pro, which Apple dumped earlier this year.

Funny, when seeing the video, I didn't think about Sony stuff but about Sonar. Who knows?

This would also be great for the audio industry, cross platform options are always a good thing and it would be huge to see Motu take DP to windows and Sonar come over (hopefully 64 bit from day one).

gramirez2012
Jul 1, 2012, 08:20 AM
it would be huge to see Motu take DP to windows

Digital Performer 8 will be available on Windows.

http://www.motu.com/newsitems/digital-performer-does-windows

Uplift
Jul 1, 2012, 10:41 AM
Why is everyone comparing this to Logic or Pro Tools? They are almost incomparable because SoundForge is not a DAW. It is used for recording, cutting, editing and mastering audio.. You can do this stuff in Logic but with it only being a small part of the DAW the functionality and polish is not quite as refined as SoundForge, it is one bit of software i missed when i moved over to Mac and i'm currently using Adobe Audition which i don't really like so this is great news..

wesk702
Jul 1, 2012, 11:11 PM
Thank god!! I like Bias Peak, but it doesn't stand a chance to Sound Forge. This was one of the biggest things I missed about Windows when I made the switch 12 years ago. Woohoo!

PS: why are people comparing sound forge to protools? Don't really thing people know what they are talking about at the beginning of this thread.

milo
Jul 2, 2012, 06:01 AM
Digital Performer 8 will be available on Windows.

Sorry, that's actually what I meant, I just worded my post really badly.

What I should have said is that DP going windows is big and if Sonar came to mac as well that would be even bigger.

b_scott
Jul 2, 2012, 04:11 PM
I always liked Sound Forge on PC, but Audacity is good and free on Mac.

calaverasgrande
Jul 3, 2012, 03:48 PM
I always liked Sound Forge on PC, but Audacity is good and free on Mac.

Audacity is a nice free quick and dirty app (reminds me of the good old Cool Edit Pro). But it's hardly comparable to Soundforge.

Sonic
Jul 3, 2012, 06:59 PM
Yeah the main thing for me is the way you could drag select some audio, then click-drag it onto the Soundforge backdrop to create a new audio file in one move... you could then, say, apply a reverb, reverse and fade-in that new file, then drag it back over holding a modifier key and you'd be able to crossfade it visually back over the original file, all without saving or loading anything... Real sound manipulation possibilities not possible via a DAW without fiddly bouncing / reloading the bounced files.

enjneer
Jul 19, 2012, 01:23 PM
I've never heard of this software. I have about 200 vinyl records I have tried to digitize. I bought all the hardware for my Mac Pro; a NAD Preamp and began the process with various software app's. The only issue: splitting tracks and meta-tagging. Took an hour per album, so I stopped.

Would this application [suite?] be helpful?

What you need, my friend, is Steinberg's Wavelab - perhaps the most unknown and underrated mastering suite / audio editor out there.

Wavelab could split, tag, convert, and burn your vinyls on the way in! Yep! At input. You can set a silence threshold and it will automatically create a new file or CD track for each song. Or you can do it all with its insanely powerful batch editor. You can even use plugins offline in your batches - say, slap an L2 on those old, smaller-dynamic range records to make up the difference.

Throw in a multitrack mastering suite with full Redbook and data burning (with cover designer and full-on replication info sheets) and nothing touches it.

Ironically, Wavelab also just came to Mac with v7!

b_scott
Jul 19, 2012, 03:47 PM
Audacity is a nice free quick and dirty app (reminds me of the good old Cool Edit Pro). But it's hardly comparable to Soundforge.

Sure, but it depends what you're using an audio software for. I used to use SF, now I use Audacity. I record audience live shows, not professional mastering.

bedifferent
Jul 19, 2012, 05:16 PM
What you need, my friend, is Steinberg's Wavelab - perhaps the most unknown and underrated mastering suite / audio editor out there.

Ironically, Wavelab also just came to Mac with v7!

Seems like the perfect fit, but for $500+ I'd be better off having them done professionally. Thanks so much for helping, I appreciate you taking the time. :)

milo
Jul 20, 2012, 09:44 AM
Third of the nine videos is up and shows some quick shots of the software. I'm a SF user and for the most part it doesn't look like that to me although it could be a radical redesign.

Anyone get any hints from the new video which app it may be?

Looks like it has some sort of split pane view, plugin chaining (which looks a bit similar to SF), regions list and event list (which imply multitrack).

Looking at the Sonar website, no similarities jump out at me. Acid doesn't seem likely.

Any ideas based on the new videos?

milo
Aug 1, 2012, 02:09 PM
Fourth video is up and it includes a couple almost full screen views of the app. Seeing the full thing, it definitely looks like sound forge. It also shows it including izotope, which SF has had for a while.

So for those of us who already have SF on PC, I wonder if they'll have a crossgrade price?

tablatom
Aug 13, 2012, 04:28 PM
I use Logic9 and i love it.

I work with friends who have most of the waves plug-ins.

It would be great if Sound forge 10 or Logic 10 would have analogue emulation plug-ins, like the Kramer MPX and the CLA compressors for example.