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Jobsian
Jun 29, 2012, 01:49 AM
The new Magsafe 2 is dislodging a lot more than my Magsafe 1 on my 2010 Air if I use it as I mostly do, ie on my lap/sofa/cushion, so I have to make sure have nothing near that side of the MBA, which is a little intrusive.

It's nice that it's thinner but the 'L' one was more robust, in my own experience anyway.



Ingster
Jun 29, 2012, 02:48 AM
I've not tried the new mag 2 connector, but i did prefer my old T magsafe on my crackbook compared with the L on my MBP

hempcamp
Jun 29, 2012, 02:59 AM
I went through 3 L-connectors on my last MacBook due to fraying. I don't know if that was due to the L-shape or not, but at least so far with the Magsafe 2 T shape, there seems to be less torsion on the cord when the laptop is moved around.

mikeray
Jun 29, 2012, 07:51 AM
The new MagSafe 2 is retro cool. I dig it. It is more practical, having a symmetrical design.

thehumorpolice
Jun 29, 2012, 08:28 AM
It sucks because the slightest up or down pull removes it from the laptop. It makes it hard to charge my MBA while it's in my bag. The new one, that is.

jimboutilier
Jun 29, 2012, 09:04 AM
I thought the MagSafe 1 T connector was great. Clearly groundbreaking. Saved me a number of times from either potentially breaking a cord or connector or sending my laptop to the ground. Not that I ever had a serious incident before MagSafe though so its only a "potential". I never had one of these fray but I know many who did. I did have the annoyance of periodic accidental disconnects.

I thought the MagSafe 1 L connector was a big improvement in style, loved the way it reduced bulk on the side of the machine, seemed to address the fraying and suffered far fewer accidental disconnects. But it was clear that it might not work so well if the cord was tugged in line to the side of the machine and it could result in a spill to the floor or damaged cord which kind of defeated it's purpose.

The new MagSafe 2 T releases easier the the previous two, seems better reinforced than the original and seems from a pure effectiveness perspective is the best yet. But it's not as elegant as the L and suffers more accidental disconnects. It's incompatibility is also a pain. I get that it's slimmer and might allow for slimmer notebooks in the future but I do not get the impression Apple took any advantage of this yet and that now I have a bunch of obsolete and expensive power supplies I have to buy expensive and inelegant dongles for. So I'm not a fan of MagSafe 2 yet.

Jobsian
Jul 5, 2012, 04:00 PM
The frequency of disconnects on the new panel is becoming increasingly intrusive. Strongly prefer the old 'L' Magsafe 1 now.

Gregintosh
Jul 5, 2012, 04:07 PM
I thought the whole point of magsafe is to prevent your laptop from falling down if someone accidentally trips on the cord. It seems with the reports of the magsafe 2 that easily breaking off would accomplish that goal, as a stronger fit would still result in the laptop falling (since the magnet may not disconnected as easily and with enough force would force the laptop down).

GBlansten
Jul 5, 2012, 04:42 PM
I've got the LG Magsafe 2 connector and I wish that I had gotten the Samsung one.:mad:

Jobsian
Jul 14, 2012, 06:53 AM
The more I'm using my 11" portably, ie on my lap, on a cushion etc, the more unsatisfied I am with Magsafe 2. It dislodges way, way too easily. The mildest of pressure vertically and suddenly it's off. Much prefer the L shape so far.

dyn
Jul 14, 2012, 07:15 AM
It sucks because the slightest up or down pull removes it from the laptop. It makes it hard to charge my MBA while it's in my bag. The new one, that is.
That is a very dumb way of charging your notebook. Both the charger and the battery/notebook will get hot. Put it in a tight space and it will get hotter. This not only is bad for the hardware like the battery but it is also a very big fire hazard. Never ever charge a notebook the way you are doing it!

I like the Magsafe2 because it actually dislodges saving the notebook while the L-one never did. The old T-shape has a better grip than the L-one because of its size. The Magsafe2 improves the old T-one in this area because it is a bit wider and thinner. Makes manually connecting and disconnecting the power connecter much easier. I don't have to yank the cable like I had to with the old L-one. All of the Magsafe connectors will charge the notebook without any problems though.

mikkker007
Jul 14, 2012, 08:49 AM
Umm.. would you prefer... the "Crap" that Every other PC vendor peddle's?
hook it up and enjoy.....

Highlander-
Jul 14, 2012, 09:36 AM
I went through 3 L-connectors on my last MacBook due to fraying. I don't know if that was due to the L-shape or not, but at least so far with the Magsafe 2 T shape, there seems to be less torsion on the cord when the laptop is moved around.

Yeah, the L-connector was a pain in the arse... I went through 2 cables as well because of the cord pulling hard backwards at an angle. T shape makes more sense in terms of comfortable angles.

kylera
Jul 14, 2012, 09:53 AM
This is the first time I am experiencing MagSafe. Compared to the more conventional plug from my PowerBook, it disconnects way too easily for my taste. Fortunately enough, I use my Air on the go and stick the charger when I get home, and as such, the Air is left alone at home.

Jamesesesesess
Jul 14, 2012, 09:57 AM
I've used both, and I much prefer MagSafe 2. The cord near the connector doesn't bend as much, so there's less possibility of fraying or internal wiring problems. Sometimes it disconnects a little bit too easily, but I'd rather it be too easily than too difficult when the day comes that one of my friends trip on the cord.

mpopkin
Sep 23, 2012, 04:19 PM
I've used both, and I much prefer MagSafe 2. The cord near the connector doesn't bend as much, so there's less possibility of fraying or internal wiring problems. Sometimes it disconnects a little bit too easily, but I'd rather it be too easily than too difficult when the day comes that one of my friends trip on the cord.

I have used all three versions, the original Magsafe(T), the newer(L) and with my rMBP the 2, and the two absolutely SUCKS. It falls off if you move the machine an inch, it falls off if you look at it the wrong way(joke),

I love Magsafe and the concept around it, but if i had to review the Magsafe 2 I would say that it is a make or break for buying a mac, if I did not love the retina display I would return it, because it is ineffective and disconnects too easily,

Zeke D
Sep 23, 2012, 06:54 PM
Sometimes I use my MacBook while lounging in my easy chair. The "L" style is good I it is leaning against my leg or the arm of the chair, whereas the new connector sticks out too far. I am afraid I woul damage the connector.

ixodes
Sep 23, 2012, 07:42 PM
The T shape is fine. But the L shape has two advantages I prefer. The direction of the wire, and the more secure the L shape seems to be. It's never dislodged by itself, whereas the T does quite regularly.

Upon inspection the genius at Apple relaced my first T MagSafe. He thought it was too loose. The new one clicks into place better. Just like the L, yet no matter how carefully I route the cord, the T dislodges.

Otherwise they're just fine.

Rokeneer
Sep 23, 2012, 08:47 PM
The "T" shaped magsafe is nothing new. It made its debut in 2006 with the original MBP. I have had the pleasure of owning 2 "T" shape, and 2 "L" shape Magsafe adapters. I by far prefer the "T", because it is easier to use and doesn't tend to fall off like the "L" shape does. I think it holds because it is slightly larger, allowing for a bigger and stronger magnet.

David085
Sep 23, 2012, 09:40 PM
The New T Magsafe 2.

Shadow2k
Sep 24, 2012, 03:01 AM
I prefer the old T-Connector, never had any problems with it. My charger from 2008 is still in mint condition.

tredstone
Sep 24, 2012, 03:14 PM
I don't really like the new connector. I can't think of a scenario where it works better than the L-shape mag. I used to be able to hover the L mag by the port and it would instantly and easily snap in. This one requires a more deliberate approach. It breaks off more easily, which happens a lot if you try to charge it in a bag and then attempt to lean the bag against a wall.

tvamvarg
Dec 20, 2012, 10:10 AM
Interesting how the poll gives about equal ranks between the two. But 90% of all posts in this thread argues (mostly well) against Magsafe 2.

I never used the L connector, but I strongly prefer the Magsafe 1 on my MB Unibody to the 2 on my MBA - as others note here it requires more deliberate work to connect, and it dislodges too easily on vertical (laptop lying down) forces. However, I have considered that the lightness of the MBA might defeat the purpose of the magnets (i.e. snapping off instead of pulling the computer to the floor) if Magsafe 1 was used as it was.

I'm not really buying that it had to be made thinner for design purposes either. Sounds too much a change for change's sake to me. And with lower usability and lack of compatibility as a result.

knarzie
Dec 20, 2012, 10:32 AM
the original one (T shaped?) on my late 2008 unibody lasted almost 3 years. I got it replaced 2 weeks before my AppleCare ran out. They gave me an L-shaped one a year ago which is already taped up, as the rubber coating has split and I can already see the wires. Only a matter of months before I'll have to buy a new one.

Jaypi
Dec 20, 2012, 01:34 PM
I have a T shaped adapter and it sucks :( It always flips off .. The L adapter is so much better for sitting on the coach etc.

cedwhatev
Dec 20, 2012, 06:11 PM
I've got the LG Magsafe 2 connector and I wish that I had gotten the Samsung one.:mad:

Nice. lol

GBlansten
Dec 21, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nice. lol

;)

AutoUnion39
Dec 22, 2012, 03:33 PM
I hate the L. The T is way better

calvol
Dec 23, 2012, 11:10 AM
I like the L, looks a lot more elegant with the wire coming off the machine at 180deg, rather tjan sticking out like a mouse ear. Apple should make the L avail in the 2-version connector.

AnonMac50
Dec 23, 2012, 11:41 AM
Haven't tried the new T, but preferred the old T over the L.

yinz
Dec 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
I also like the L shaped connector. As above put it, it looks more elegant.

TSE
Dec 23, 2012, 03:50 PM
I prefer the T-Shape. They aren't as durable since the cord can and does move and a wider angle, but the cord moves at a wider angle.

Acorn
Dec 26, 2012, 12:54 PM
the magnet seems weaker on the new T adapter. on my 2010 macbook pro with the L adapter i could just put the wire near the edge and it would snap right into place. not so much with the T adapter.

That said im having less issues with the new T adapter

A Hebrew
Dec 26, 2012, 12:57 PM
They both work for me perfectly, the only edge one has is that the L looks better.

53x12
Dec 26, 2012, 04:18 PM
They both work for me perfectly, the only edge one has is that the L looks better.


Agreed. Haven't had any issues with either type.

coldjeanzzz
Dec 28, 2012, 01:05 PM
People have complained the MagS2 is too easy to take out but I actually feel completely opposite. I find it too difficult to take out! My old PC notebook was much easier. I have to really struggle to pull it out on my MBA. Maybe I'm doing it wrong? Lol

Kirixis
Dec 28, 2012, 06:14 PM
I have the 2012 MBA 13" and goddamn I would've liked a right angle in the charger - 99.9% of the time I tuck it behind the computer anyways.

metier
Dec 29, 2012, 08:50 AM
I have the old L shaped adapter at work and use the little converter for the new mag 2 adapter. This seems to stay connected a little better then just the new Mag 2 adapter. But then again again at work I'm at a desk so my mac doesn't get moved around as much. I will have to run some test next week when I get into the office.

V4705
Jan 1, 2013, 05:39 PM
ms2 just keep disconnecting. the shape make it much more sensitive than the previous one and im pretty sure the magnet is less strong also...

is there any 3rd party alternative, l-shaped with stronger hold to the mac ?

thanks!

attis
Jan 11, 2013, 01:18 AM
Come on?!

Who could POSSIBLY prefer the T2 over the L1?

I have found absolutely ZERO advantages over the old one. I get that it's symmetrical, but only in theory. Mine is not very old, and I rarely wind it up on the power brick itself, yet it has become so twisted and stiff that I can only connect it in one way, or the cable twists and bends itself out of position on its own.

It must have something to do with the thinner cable over the last gen. The way it arrived out of the box, in that little plastic cover, it took weeks for it to loose the imprints of that and now it seems tangled up on the inside from it. I haven't forced it at all.

And then we have the actual "Mag"-part of it all. More MagLoose than MagSafe.

It. Drops. Out. Constantly. I've had the 2010 and 2011 13" Airs and now I'm on the 2012 13". The Magsafe joke and the heat issues have both contributed equally to me considering returning it for another 2011. I use my Air both at home and for work. At home its hopeless to try and sit down with it, the slightest pull on the cable in any direction results in a dislodging. Be it that the brick is a bit too far away or trying to support the Air on my knees - anything does it, really. At work, I might tether it to a DSLR while shooting, and I can't put it on my camerabag or any uneven surface as before. It really hinders me in my work. And at the office I have just stopped using it for email next to my Mac Mini because of the friggin cable.

The only time it doesn't come loose properly is when pulled straight out of the side of the computer, when the cable runs in its T-shape down onto the floor. My 2012 went 50cm across the table and almost belly landed because someone stepped on the brick.

For technical reasons (i.e the 15" RMBP), they had to make the MagSafe smaller, but they didn't have to make it incompatible with the old laptops. And going back to the T-shape really makes it perform worse. I think about it and hate it every day, and really hope that Apple makes an L2. The magnets will probably still be too weak, but it has greater chance of staying in when the lever effectively moves in from 4cm out down to 1cm from the computer.

Saturn1217
Jan 11, 2013, 08:27 AM
This thread scared me sooo much! But now I have my MBA and I actually have all 3 adapters to compare in person. I am using the L style at work with the adapter and the new T style at home. I do agree that at a desk the L style is better and if anyone is wondering the adapter works really well with the L style.

The old and new Ts are much better when you are not at a desk though because you can bend them any way you want. I've had no issues thus far with using the new T style while couch surfing etc.

I just wanted to let anyone know who is also scared by this thread that it isn't really a big deal at least in my experience.

KPOM
Jan 11, 2013, 09:03 AM
Come on?!

Who could POSSIBLY prefer the T2 over the L1?

I have found absolutely ZERO advantages over the old one. I get that it's symmetrical, but only in theory. Mine is not very old, and I rarely wind it up on the power brick itself, yet it has become so twisted and stiff that I can only connect it in one way, or the cable twists and bends itself out of position on its own.

It. Drops. Out. Constantly. I've had the 2010 and 2011 13" Airs and now I'm on the 2012 13". The Magsafe joke and the heat issues have both contributed equally to me considering returning it for another 2011.

Some of that is deliberate. The whole point of MagSafe is to prevent someone from knocking it down by tripping over the cord. I do notice that the 2012 MacBook Air cord does come out easily, though.

This thread scared me sooo much! But now I have my MBA and I actually have all 3 adapters to compare in person. I am using the L style at work with the adapter and the new T style at home. I do agree that at a desk the L style is better and if anyone is wondering the adapter works really well with the L style.

The old and new Ts are much better when you are not at a desk though because you can bend them any way you want. I've had no issues thus far with using the new T style while couch surfing etc.

I just wanted to let anyone know who is also scared by this thread that it isn't really a big deal at least in my experience.

I had a 2012 MacBook Air that I lost, and used my insurance proceeds to replace it with a 13" rMBP. I notice that although it also uses the MagSafe 2, it doesn't come off nearly as easily. Perhaps Apple tweaked the strength of the magnet (or perhaps it's just normal production variation).

kayloh20
Jan 11, 2013, 09:36 AM
In terms of preventing the laptop from going down as someone trips over the cable, the T connector is better, in my opinion, because it comes out way easier, whereas the only easy way for the L connector to come out was if someone tripped on the inside of the L.

As for everything else, the L connector is much better for me. I'm almost always running the charging cable behind the computer, so the L makes that easier since it's already angled that way. Also, I sometimes like to stand the computer on its side when I'm laying down. Obviously the T connector pops right out.

I've never had any technical issues with either, though, so in that sense, either one works.

attis
Jan 11, 2013, 03:22 PM
Some of that is deliberate. The whole point of MagSafe is to prevent someone from knocking it down by tripping over the cord. I do notice that the 2012 MacBook Air cord does come out easily, though.


Now it comes loose from the slightest nudge, not fram jerk, like it used to and should do.

dyn
Jan 11, 2013, 04:22 PM
It comes loose after sending the laptop it was attached to flying towards the floor. The L-connector fails to do what it's supposed to do: prevent a notebook from falling to the floor. The first and the current mag safe do a proper job at that though. Unfortunately that functionality comes at a cost: you have to hold the connector when moving the notebook else it will drop out very easily. Ask yourself what you'd rather have: a notebook meeting the floor or having to hold the power connector when moving around. The poll here speaks volumes: you either are somebody who likes the connector to disconnect or you want it to stay on because you want to move around the notebook. In other words: either you like the functionality of the Mag Safe or you don't.

rose3fa
Jan 11, 2013, 05:06 PM
I like the original T shape MagSafe. My new T falls out way too easily. E.g.:

1. Set the computer on a bed with a thick comforter, it sinks in enough to dislodge connector.

2. I use my old T MagSafe 1 with the adapter for the new style and the weight of the combination is enough to break the magnet free unless I support the cable.

In both cases I have to carefully set it up to charge and I'll still sometimes come back and find the cable disconnected.


The problem is that the new magnet is thinner and so it takes less vertical force to break the connector free.


I think the original T has the best compromise of staying connected in most situations and breaking free when needed. Maybe, statistically, too many people experienced flying computers (MBAs especially) with the stronger connection of both MS 1s and this is the new compromise.

rezwits
Jan 15, 2013, 01:19 AM
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2346

There are three different MagSafe versions

There are three styles of MagSafe connector available: a "T" style connector, "L" style connector, and the new MagSafe 2.

So, I don't know which one to click on... I liked the T shaped one on my old Black MacBook...

Laters...

plucky duck
Jan 15, 2013, 05:08 PM
I prefer the old L connector, as the wiring doesn't stick out needlessly and looks so much cleaner.

Saturn1217
Jan 15, 2013, 06:22 PM
I could be wrong but I don't think the real purpose of the mag safe is to protect you from pulling your computer to the floor if someone trips over it. That's just good marketing from apple.

To those who had PCs recently you probably remember how hard it is to just physically plug your power cord into the computer. This is often a point of failure on cheap pcs like my poor boyfriends cheap HP where he has to spend like 15 minutes jiggling the cord just right to get the computer to power on (I have a master plan to loan him my old mbp for a few days while his is sent in for repair and then he will finally be converted mwahaha!)

Anyway my point is i don't think apple's goal needs to be making a magsafe that easily disconnects when you trip over a wire. The REAL advantage of magsafe for most consumers was a durable power port that required minimal fuss to plug into. It is the same concept as the magnetic latch we all love. No mechanical part so far less chance of breaking. Still like i said before i have all 3 versions and except for the need to readjust sometimes to get the charging light to turn on i've never had any issues.

KPOM
Jan 15, 2013, 06:36 PM
Now it comes loose from the slightest nudge, not fram jerk, like it used to and should do.

The issue with the L connectors is that they didn't fall off from a jerk, depending the direction. I think Apple may have tweaked the magnet strength a bit, however, as I have not noticed the inadvertent disconnecting as much on my rMBP as I did on the MBA, each with the MagSafe 2 connectors.

Xgm541
Jan 15, 2013, 09:34 PM
Both arent too good in terms of durability, the wire is just too thin, and if one uses it at awkward angles, the coating of the wire rips.

But as far as connectivity the L shape stayed in better.

yanksrock100
Jan 15, 2013, 10:18 PM
I like the new version better. The way I have to charge my Air, it is awkward having an L shape.In terms of durability, I don't think I have a preference.

I think it really depends on where you charge your laptop. For me, it would be a problem to have an L shape, so the T shape that goes straight out is perfect

Agent-P
Jan 16, 2013, 12:35 AM
I run my charger from behind my desk, so for that reason I preferred the L connector. With the T connector, I have to leave some slack cable which just goes around the edge of my desk and then back. With the L connector it just went from my laptop straight back to behind my desk. That's pretty much the only reason I preferred that. Occasionally I use my MBA elsewhere, but I don't really have any complaints with the strength of the magnet or random detaching.

attis
Jan 16, 2013, 01:40 PM
The issue with the L connectors is that they didn't fall off from a jerk, depending the direction. I think Apple may have tweaked the magnet strength a bit, however, as I have not noticed the inadvertent disconnecting as much on my rMBP as I did on the MBA, each with the MagSafe 2 connectors.

Sure, they both have that disadvantage - when pulling straight on the cable, they don't come off as easily when pulled at an angle. On the T1 and T2 that is straight out from the side of the computer, and on the L1 it is directly towards or from you depending on the way it was put in.

Although the intentions were good - the new design doesn't make it impossible to pull the computer off of a desk, but it sure makes everyday use more inconvenient.

I'm not convinced, that's all...

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I like the new version better. The way I have to charge my Air, it is awkward having an L shape.In terms of durability, I don't think I have a preference.

I think it really depends on where you charge your laptop. For me, it would be a problem to have an L shape, so the T shape that goes straight out is perfect

Well, at least with the old you can choose from the T1 or L1 depending on your needs. Now you don't have a choice anymore..

From a durability standpoint, I think only time will tell which one is best. My bet is that the new one is worse.

plumosa
Jan 16, 2013, 03:52 PM
All I can say is that I've gone through two different L-shaped cords in 16 months. They both died in the same manner, the cord frayed internally right at the point it comes out of the thicker rubber. The first one only lasted a 4 months and the second one broke 2 weeks ago.

Apple replaced the first one since it was under warranty, but refused on the most recent failure. I ended up buying an equivalent knock off on ebay since I know the apple ones won't last that long anyways; why pay 3 times the cost!?